Nigel de Jong, in lieu of Essien, impressed me with his robust performance. at Euro recently.
His acquisition will not inflate the market and will be a good fit for undersized city. His skills was demonstrated in Dutch victories over Italy and France.

City don't need Bellamy (undersized and past negative publicity).

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Added on January 17, 2009, 2:37 amWHU needs Bellamy, more than city, else they will be relegated.

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Added on January 17, 2009, 4:06 amWhen family gets involved, i.e. Papa Kaka, in negotiation I think theres quite a likelihood that he might be gone.
Chelsea didn't get Kaka and maybe thats why Robinho ended up in City.

Kaka's Future Unclear As 'Arabian Business' Retract Confirmation
Manchester City had completed the signing of Milan superstar Kaka, according to arabianbusiness.com, only for the website to mysteriously retract its statement an hour after releasing it.


It will be quite a samba party if e'thing goes according to plan.
The more competitive the clubs (6 top clubs rather than 4) the more championsip spots will be given to EPL. no?

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Added on January 17, 2009, 4:09 amChelsea didn't get Kaka and maybe thats why Robinho ended up in City.

Kaka Future Unclear As 'Arabian Business' Retract Confirmation

Manchester City had completed the signing of Milan superstar Kaka, according to arabianbusiness.com, only for the website to mysteriously retract its statement an hour after releasing it.


It will be quite a samba party if e'thing goes according to plan.
The more competitive the clubs (6 top clubs rather than 4) the more championsip spots will be given to EPL. No?

This post has been edited by niuchin: Jan 17 2009, 04:09 AM

Read that the deal has gone up to about 240 million quids. Madness. That'd be enuff to buy the whole Villa XI I reckon. That's top four material right there.

Villa XI? that is way more than enough.
heck, heres how much the liverpool team cost, and we'll even throw in a couple extras to round it up

Reina 6
Aurelio FREE
Arbeloa 2.5
Agger 6
Skrtel 6.5
Carra From Academy
Gerrard From Academy
Alonso 11
Reira 8
Kuyt 10
Babel 11.5
Torres 20
Keane 20

Total 101.5 for 13 players.

You can't count Carragher and Gerrard as free just because they are from the academy.

Latest Paper Talk say

Hughes is signing Terry. and Hughes will lose his job to Rafa Benitez in the summer

thats partly the point
u cant just simply buy talent, sometimes u gotta create them.

but i like kaka's demand, must be in CL within 2yrs.
its as if kaka knows its not possible and is in it for the quick money, then get out after that

This post has been edited by Everdying: Jan 18 2009, 11:24 AM

In another thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/908553/+20

s'one mentioed that MU built success rather than buy success. I posted this


Van der Sar (exact transfer fee was undisclosed)
Rio (£33 million)
Vidic ( £7 million
Evra (£5.5 million )
Nani (£14-17million )
Anderson £18 million
Rooney (£27 million)
CR7 (£12.2 million)
Owen Hargreaves (£17 million)
Park £5 million
Carrick rising to £18.6 million
Berbatov (£30 million)
All great buys. especially Vidic, Evra, Park and CR7 transfer fees are a steal. No?

Except one buy

Recall Veron (almost same amount as Rio) .


MU American owner Glazer financed takeover for £600-800million (with hedged funds, AIG among them). In the event that Glazer unable to repay bondholders, control will be passed three hedge funds - Citadel, Och-Ziff Capital Management Group and Perry Capital). That is MU is privatized with Wall street funds etc. with MU fans paying interest on the debt in the meanwhile.



Now you want to castigate City owners for wanting to spend their money.

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Added on January 18, 2009, 6:56 amThxs. You just echo my thoughts.

Thats why Rafa didn't signed the contract/extension. Its not just control of signings but the continual 'split' between the partners and their debts in financing t/o. Liverpool FC should be bought by s'body with real money!!!. There are Asian interests.

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Added on January 18, 2009, 7:21 amFrom the grapewine, Ade maybe Man City's target

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Added on January 18, 2009, 5:05 pmWill RM hijack Kaka's transfer?
Either ways (Madrid or ManC) Kaka's departure is inevitable.
On the plus side with that money, Ade and Clichy might join Flamini. This will rejuvenate an aging squad.

My money is Kaka is signed and will be delivered to ManC .
CR9 is definitely going to RM.
Drogba is either going to Inter or ....ManC.



Why?
The only one with the real money is ManC.
The rest NADA


P.S. RA cupboard is bare (thats why Robinho ends up in City, Drogba and Alex will be gone)

This post has been edited by niuchin: Jan 18 2009, 05:26 PM

The last time i checked Rafa have 18 months before his contract run out.

Oh wait, i forgot MC has all the money in the world to make anything possible.

man utd earned the money through their successes not by sugar daddy.. that is the main point

This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: Jan 18 2009, 05:53 PM

ok im not a MC fan...im MU fan...but wat i just wana say is that MC is lucky enough to have a rich owner so we cant blame anything...lets guess...if the owner bought arsenal....so wat would u guys said???will kaka transfer to arsenal becum such a big issue...NO.....so we jsut hope that if kaka transfer to MC...MC will becum one of the big force and it would be something good if we see a good team emerge to be one of the world best!!

Agreed to a certain extent. However they maintained their top flight status thru continuous predatory practice of raiding top talented players from lesser EPL teams. No?

see my list below
Rio (from Leeds)
Berba (from Spurs)
Roo (from Everton)
Tevez (from WHU)

and from other
Owen Hargreaves (BM)
Vidic (from ?)
VDS
Nani
Anderson
Evra
Park
CR7

I think buying success (Berba, Owen, Nani, Anderson) with hedge funds ala Wall St. money is a better description. No.?

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Added on January 18, 2009, 6:03 pmYes. My main objective is that I can have a 'samba party' and EPL remains the best league

This post has been edited by niuchin: Jan 18 2009, 06:03 PM

btw it would be lovely if manchester has 2 big clubs..like milan

when u r buying big, u need to ensure ur buying will be worth it
takkan nak bayar 30 juta pound untuk makukula?

and from the 4 players u mentioned above there r 3 players said that playing for man utd are like their dreams came true.. is it wrong to fulfill that, while strengthen ur squad?

it is totally different than paying hundred millions pounds for kaka just to blur milan boards' eyes with the money.. kaka doesnt even want to play for city

This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: Jan 18 2009, 06:10 PM

You are right. I concede that to you.
But what will you say about CR9 whose childhood dream was to play for RM?

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Added on January 18, 2009, 6:14 pmMy sentiments exactly.

This post has been edited by niuchin: Jan 18 2009, 06:14 PM

player have heart and believe also future..you think can transfer easily players..win a cup then we talk...

Bridge trasfer cuz of future..we respect him and love him...he about the same age as A.Cole that why he left...see??

man utd owned him and they still have rights to sell or not
as long as ronaldo dont go to saf and ask a transfer request i think it still ok

if tottenham still dont want to sell berbatov to us, what can we say?

Man City's priority imo, is to first get themselves a top top class manager. Whats the point of getting world class players if you dont have the right manager that can utilize those players to the fullest. Hughes i reckon is a grafter type of manager, suitable for your average players in mid table teams. You need a classy manager not to just able to out-think the big 5 (i'm including O'neil) managers but also to be able to contain the top players with certain authority.

Having said this, it be brilliant to see Kaka in the EPL. But you need to understand why Kaka has been one of the most brilliant player in modern football. Its because he is playing in one of the most elite team in Europe, arguably built around him. So imo, before you get yourself a Kaka, its even more imperative to get a Gattuso and a Pirlo or Seerdorf. These the kind of players that enable someone like Kaka to be able to express himself to his maximum potential.

Just my 2c.

i think the point why all people criticise man city is they spend 100m for a player ... and the boss expect instant success ...

before roman buy chelsea, chelsea already a force in the premier league ... won the fa cup and cup winner's cup ...

unlike city now, not even the top 8 teams ... and dream of cl football ...

if you pay too much for a foreign player, they will turn to salary worker, means every week just come to kick the ball, whether win or not also doesn't matter ...

your theory?

Who knows maybe this is a new start for Man City, they could be a real force perhaps with more quality signing and Kaka might be remembered as a start of the revolution.

they have to start somewhere don't they?I agree it's a step too big to take Kaka now but if they can afford it and Kaka likes the deal, why not?[IMHO it's still a crazy deal]

assuming that Kaka will join them, they will now have Robinho and Kaka which means people will start to consider when Man City come knocking the door cos they already have big name players there.

risks is of course obvious, but they've got what it takes to bear the risk.

This post has been edited by bearbear: Jan 18 2009, 10:33 PM

U dun get success if u dun risk... Nuff said