I am stuck with this 2 since my dad state that Form6 is better since I can stand a chance to go in local uni.If i cant go in local uni,then he baru send me to UTAR or MMU.

I am still waiting for my SPM result.Hopefully can score all 11 subject...

So it is a good choice to take stpm with chance to save me up to rm50k ++ on tuition fees?How abou the education quality?Let say UM vs MMU,which one will be better?I am a chinese anyway...

Btw,I am interested in engineering in electronic majoring in IT or computer..I saw MMU offer stuff lik tis

Plan for PTPTN loan..but if local one,my dad say no loan can pay straight..

This post has been edited by sasaug: Jan 15 2009, 03:22 PM

mmu then

reason?

Yes indeed form 6 is the most cheapest pre-U course if compared to other similar program and in fact also the hardest among them.But dont be detered cause once you scored form 6,everything will eventually open up for you.

Plus they have this JPA local scholarship where you get RM100 per month and free tuition fee for form 6 if you scored 8A for SPM and above.

Just remember to work your ass out and at least secure a good public uni.I tell you their course fee is super cheap.A 5 year medical course is only bout RM30k.

Compare that to private Uni which starts at RM100k above.Plus you can get scholarship using JPA IPTA scholarship and also easily borrow from PTPTN

The reason why many people hate Form 6 is because you are still bound to school rules.IPTS has much more freedom and you do not need to wear uniform.

Other than that,its just the same.Form 6 result are recognised even in Singapore,Australia and US.


I experienced what you did and has already moved on.

Firstly where are you from?Electrical engineering is available in alot of private uni.UTAR also has this course but its now in kampar campus

This post has been edited by 779364: Jan 15 2009, 03:26 PM

for me, form 6 is just a waste of time... better apply to MMU directly than wasting form 6 time.

local U fees are very low~~perhaps one year just few thousand.you just have to pay on accomodation
yes you should take STPM,if you are a bright student cause you should be able to cope with it.
if you know you confirm cannot cope with it,then dont waste your 2 yrs on stpm

As far as I can remember last time, MMU provides engineering courses and also IT, but not sure the IT domain is more on software engineering.

UTAR you have to go for one year foundation course if you're out from SPM, and 3 years degree course (B. Sc. (Hons))

For public university, will be a bit risky to get the course that you want as they got quota system and also depends on the STPM results.

accidentally double post

This post has been edited by andrewleewaikeong: Jan 15 2009, 03:26 PM

I am SPM grad myself, so I'll just state my 2 cents.

I get into college directly after SPM (TARC by the way), and started pursuing my Diploma cert there. After 2 years I went down to KL to further pursue the Advanced Diploma cum Degree cert.

And now I'm working, at just the age of 22. (Coming 23 end of this month ) For me I'm quite grateful I can graduate without repeating.

For me, I'm the kind of guy who prefer to get out there and learn the "Street smarts" value faster instead of being a bookworm and keep learning all the time. That's why I've been working part time after my PMR, SPM, and even diploma years.

There's alot of perspective you can consider with the path you want to take:
Money? If money is not an issue, why not just pursue a degree now?
Future? If you aren't sure what you wanna be in the future, you might want to consider taking this STPM years to consider your future job.
Ego? Being STPM grad makes you feel more bangga? Or being a Degree grad at the age of 22/23 makes you feel special when you come out working?

Hope that helps.

just imagine at the age of 22, you wil be graduated with a Degree from IPTA .while it take up to age 24 to complete a degree in Local Uni...
in 2 year, you might gain a lot of knowledge of your work...

If I'm not mistaken, Form 6 is a Cambridge accreditation, right?

Ya....so local uni fees for engineering?

why waste?

UTAR 1 year 10k....so i save hw many k?

yea...4yrs for engineering...

I'm having the same case with you, gsrc.

I remembered working on some small projects before at DiGi/Maxis for some period of time, and there are technical staffs there who are the same age as me. Some are younger than me also. I've seen a lot of young talents there.

For me, I would emphasize more on being street smart and also working experience. Nowadays economy is bad and it's not easy to get a job as fresh grad (I've gone through that process before), so I would say, it's better to graduate earlier and gain as much experience as possible.

This post has been edited by geekster129: Jan 15 2009, 03:35 PM

http://web.utm.my/fke/

This one is local rite?why the spm student oso can masuk?

Agree... working experience matters more when you come out to work next time.

http://web.utm.my/fke/

Can anyone check on this?why spm pun boleh masuk?then requirement so low...

Terima Kasih, UTM:



Joking.

Here's the catch:



I have a feeling for SPM graduates, you probably have to go through 1 year Pre-U program, something like UTAR, then on then second year only you will specialize more on the course itself.

This post has been edited by geekster129: Jan 15 2009, 03:43 PM

Nolah,UTAR foundation only Rm7200 only.Plus if your SPM get 9A above,can waive tuition fee completely.Their degree course for electrical I think is RM30k around there.

For local uni,its less than RM10k.Not joking.

blur la bro....

So are you SPM or STPM leg then?



Found a mambo driven server in UTM.

SPM leg. I graduated same age as you.

This is what we called work experience.... server profiling...

Did that a lot at customer site when they don't even know what type of system they are using in their company LOL



This post has been edited by geekster129: Jan 15 2009, 03:48 PM

Tried Joomla?

i'm a former STPMer...

well... here's my advice...

got brain = aim for STPM

got $$ = aim for IPTS ( A-level / Foundation / Ausmat / Matriks )

some private colleges... if ur SPm / STPM result superb... then u can apply for their SCHOLARSHIPs...

newspaper also got scholarship mah... THE STAR / NEWS STRAIT TIMES / SIN CHEW JIT POH n ETC.

my college got scholarship holders from those newspapers...

if electric & electronic eng better UM la or UKM..
good facilities and great lecturer..
how do i know? i studied electric & electronic in UKM..
better public uni la..u can save money a lot..

oo..ii try apply lo...still waiting my spm result...

how abt UTM?

i think u better go to IPTS because chinese very hard to get in local 'U'...
if u really want to enter local 'U"
u must make sure that u able to score well in u'r stpm....

i have some chinese fren in polytechnic that able to get cpga 3.9x also unable to enter local'u'.....

so think carefull.....

it quite simple really........

since it's in the engineering field, which isn't too difficult to get.....

no money, or got money but don't want to spend........do stpm

got money, go ipts.......

the difference of 1 or 2 years in graduating age is irrelevant in the long run.......

serious, is it true?

here a little advise cx im oso a former STPMer..
for ur info.. spm n stpm r 2 different story.. and well there is a huge difference in term of difficulty.. spm=easy one, stpm=super duper tough.. haha.. so if u gt money.. strongly suggest go for diploma/colledge... save ur time n easier.. else go for stpm.. its a very very challenging cert reli..

and im oso a utm student now.. 2nd yrs degree now.. if ure interested in utm since its a premium university in engineering n technology.. go for it!
mayb taking a diploma over kl campus thr 1st.. then transfer ur credit once u finish ur diploma for a bachelor degree in utm skudai here..

the requirement for entering e&e is quite high oso.. for stpm u ned to get 3.8+ min.. so mayb diploma is a good choice after all..

good luck

are you good in physics and maths?

if you feel you're good and your spm results are encouraging then go for STPM by all means.

however if your results aren't too convincing then you can apply for ipts.

anyway think about your choices and wait for your results to come out 1st before making any rash decisions.

if you want to know a trick for getting into a local Uni after form 6 let me know and i'll tell you about it.

As an ex stpm-er myself, spm and stpm are 2 totally diff story.
I scored 9a's for my spm in 06, and now I doubt I'll even pass the stpm, I know I am failing my chemistry, as in serious failing, not the "omg im gonna fail and u end up got a C"
I was under alot of stress and finally i can breathe free, I decided to go MMU.
Imma doing mechanical engineering. And oh one thing, I might need to retake foundation year.
Money is not a big issue, my parents are mediocre teachers with peanut pay, there is always ptptn.
The amount might seemed huge, but ask urself, are you willing to face failure after stpm, U will end up with some weird courses (eg, perhutanan/ukur jalan wtf) OR you rather spend more money on a degree course that will secure you a job. Slowly climb the ladder, no one goes up the ladder by flying unless ur dad owns a huge company X_X

GO 4 PRIVATE KOLEJ LAH,EASY.............

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Added on January 16, 2009, 2:56 am I M REALLY GOOD IN THAT

This post has been edited by invincible1889: Jan 16 2009, 02:56 AM

who said chinese hartd to enter IPTA..
in my class at UKM, half of them are chinese..

Yes, I heard that STPM holder (mostly Chinese) easily beat anyone from Matriculation. Thats why Matriculation path could be risky unless you could study very hard.

u know wad.. last time it was reli hard for chinese to enter ipta.. but start from last year, ic there is a lot of chinese roll into our uni ad..
so i think the policy somehow was changed a lil' bit ad..

dear ts.. if u interested in engineering and wanna safe a few thousand K on the fee.. i suggest u go form 6 lor.. going IPTS straight will cost u roughly 50-70k .. if u go to local Uni it is jus bout 20-30k.. so jus thing about it.. r u able to paid up the 70k after u grad. how much u think u will earn when u grad. for me jus go form 6 or if able apply for matriculation.. then fo local uni.. utm, ukm, um, upm and usm can offer all this at a lower price.. plus when u come in here u can apply for JPA if u r lucky.. u able to study for free.. my advice is go local uni and it will save u a bomb

This post has been edited by xavi5567: Jan 16 2009, 11:46 AM