Check this out http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...icle2127627.ece
i would love jimmy bullard to be gunners
English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, Awaiting for Arshavin - ARS 0-0 WHU
English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, Awaiting for Arshavin - ARS 0-0 WHU
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Jan 15 2009, 12:24 PM
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Check this out http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...icle2127627.ece
i would love jimmy bullard to be gunners |
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Jan 15 2009, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(rockalt1292 @ Jan 15 2009, 12:24 PM) Check this out http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...icle2127627.ece too old for Gunners...i would love jimmy bullard to be gunners don't think AW will go for him. |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:13 PM
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Still no signings...
Now Man City are hijacking the Arshavin deal.. Goshh it's already 15th... |
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Jan 15 2009, 01:52 PM
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Jan 15 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Jan 15 2009, 01:52 PM) Atleast AW will know the power of moneyt during the transfer window & how important for us to get any billionaires who can invest in this club seriously, will arsenal be arsenal if they follow the Chelsea, Man U ,Liverpool , other EPL clubs whereby they spend money not based on the income they have generated? This is why i respect Arsene so much. If you really think that you need to support a club that have a billionaire sugar daddy why not switch to man city or even man u or liverpool given that chelsea is now in a decline. If Arsenal ever get funded by billionaire and not through their own income is the day i will pay less attention to the EPL. Sometimes i really cannot believe you guys. Let me tell you something. Man U can get all the trophy they want but i will be looking forward to the day whereby they cannot even make their interest payments. Mayby it would be relegation in a few years time. Liverpool is already in trouble and no one need to tell you what is happening to Chelsea now. Anything that is build on short term success will always fail badly in the end. You just have to look at Chelsea to know. Even if Arsenal does not make it to champions leaque it is no problem because their debts are sustained with gates receipts. If there is a good company to buy it is definately Arsenal.Added on January 15, 2009, 2:28 pm QUOTE(giotto @ Jan 15 2009, 12:07 PM) The money being thrown by Man City is just plain obscene. 100 Mil pounds could have saved how many poor man and save how many kids from starvation, not to mention the genocide that the Palestinians is facing. What made it even more worst is the rich Arabs, so called brothers of Palestinians, is financing this deal and there's so much more they can do to help the war torn country instead of throwing 100 Mil on a player. To me, Kaka is probably only worth 35 Mil. If they can throw such obscene money then can you imagine their morals and the things they value in the first place. And some ppl actually want them to be associated with Arsenal. What a jokeBut lets concentrate on Arsenal instead. Are we or are we not buying? Seems nothing is concrete at this point, no news of signings and Arshavin's signing seems like a distant memory by now. Anyways, good thing is, Nasri is suddently found to be a good at playing the central role or the Cesc role. He helped open up the game at Bolton when we looked to be struggling with the bus parking tactic by Bolton. So we may not buy a creative midfield afterall. This post has been edited by sylar111: Jan 15 2009, 02:28 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:26 PM) seriously, will arsenal be arsenal if they follow the Chelsea, Man U ,Liverpool , other EPL clubs whereby they spend money not based on the income they have generated? This is why i respect Arsene so much. If you really think that you need to support a club that have a billionaire sugar daddy why not switch to man city or even man u or liverpool given that chelsea is now in a decline. If Arsenal ever get funded by billionaire and not through their own income is the day i will pay less attention to the EPL. Sometimes i really cannot believe you guys. Let me tell you something. Man U can get all the trophy they want but i will be looking forward to the day whereby they cannot even make their interest payments. Mayby it would be relegation in a few years time. Liverpool is already in trouble and no one need to tell you what is happening to Chelsea now. Anything that is build on short term success will always fail badly in the end. You just have to look at Chelsea to know. Even if Arsenal does not make it to champions leaque it is no problem because their debts are sustained with gates receipts. If there is a good company to buy it is definately Arsenal. r u joking man...MU are brought up and be the richest club in the world by fergie....Added on January 15, 2009, 2:28 pm If they can throw such obscene money then can you imagine their morals and the things they value in the first place. And some ppl actually want them to be associated with Arsenal. What a joke |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:30 PM) go and check out the facts for yourself. They were the richest club before Glazier took over. They are now having problems paying off their debts. They need to sustain the winning form of last year just to remain on par and that is totally unreasonable. Why dun you go and check out your facts yourself. Ok given that they generated a lot of income last year but from what i understand, it is just slightly more then the debt payment. Why do you think that so many ppl actually protested when Glazier took over? Why dun you go and research on whether the debt level has increased or decreased. typical Man U fanThis post has been edited by sylar111: Jan 15 2009, 02:37 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:38 PM
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so wat do u think that MU spend money that DOESNT based on the income they have.........
btw..they are paying debts becoz of glazier not beccoz of MU... |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:38 PM) so wat do u think that MU spend money that DOESNT based on the income they have......... I know very sure that Liverpool borrowed money to buy players .Leads did the same thing and look what happened to them. I am not sure whether Man U did the same thing but the fact is this. Their debt has been increasing and not decreasing. I know that the Glazier take over is unfortunate but you have to face the facts that if you cannot pay off the interest and there is no buyers for Man U. You will be declared bankrupt. That is the fact that you have to face and not tell me whether your debts is because of glazier. Let me ask you a qtn. You make 1 million dollars, but because of your friend ,you now have a debt of 1.1 million dollars. Do you now spend as if you have 1 million dollars or try and make that extra 100 K to pay off that debt. Think about it.btw..they are paying debts becoz of glazier not beccoz of MU... |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:26 PM) seriously, will arsenal be arsenal if they follow the Chelsea, Man U ,Liverpool , other EPL clubs whereby they spend money not based on the income they have generated? This is why i respect Arsene so much. If you really think that you need to support a club that have a billionaire sugar daddy why not switch to man city or even man u or liverpool given that chelsea is now in a decline. If Arsenal ever get funded by billionaire and not through their own income is the day i will pay less attention to the EPL. Sometimes i really cannot believe you guys. Let me tell you something. Man U can get all the trophy they want but i will be looking forward to the day whereby they cannot even make their interest payments. Mayby it would be relegation in a few years time. Liverpool is already in trouble and no one need to tell you what is happening to Chelsea now. Anything that is build on short term success will always fail badly in the end. You just have to look at Chelsea to know. Even if Arsenal does not make it to champions leaque it is no problem because their debts are sustained with gates receipts. If there is a good company to buy it is definately Arsenal. In Arsenal's case, we can't be going on like this.Added on January 15, 2009, 2:28 pm If they can throw such obscene money then can you imagine their morals and the things they value in the first place. And some ppl actually want them to be associated with Arsenal. What a joke Soon or later we would start to loose rich sponsorships, TV Revenue, fans, sales of shirt & many more when the team is not winning anything for more than 5 seasons. Sometime soon, Arsenal would need to sell their players to cover up the expenses & will end up like Leeds too.. In Chelsea's case, Mourinho has conflict with the owner. If he had stayed more longer, he would hv won all the cups & chelsea would hv been un-stopable. FYI, AW has never beaten Mourinho in any competition. This post has been edited by Casanova88: Jan 15 2009, 02:54 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:44 PM) I know very sure that Liverpool borrowed money to buy players .Leads did the same thing and look what happened to them. I am not sure whether Man U did the same thing but the fact is this. Their debt has been increasing and not decreasing. I know that the Glazier take over is unfortunate but you have to face the facts that if you cannot pay off the interest and there is no buyers for Man U. You will be declared bankrupt. That is the fact that you have to face and not tell me whether your debts is because of glazier. Let me ask you a qtn. You make 1 million dollars, but because of your friend ,you now have a debt of 1.1 million dollars. Do you now spend as if you have 1 million dollars or try and make that extra 100 K to pay off that debt. Think about it. MU will bankrupt....wat a fact...ill see how many years will it takes for this to happen..good luck..epaceThis post has been edited by yfchin2: Jan 15 2009, 02:54 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:12 PM
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Jan 15 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:51 PM) In Arsenal's case, we can't be going on like this. As far as I know. I think the waiting list for the stadium is still quite long. So we do not have to worry about the stadium not being filled. There is a long term agreement with Emirates that is not going to expire soon. Fan base are expanding based on the beautiful football that is being played. For example, how many ppl do you know of who support Arsenal until recently?I am sure that you know of many more ppl who supports Arsenal as compared to mayby 1 or 2 years ago. From what i understand, isn't TV revenue equally distributed among the 19 other clubs? And yes we did not win anything but we were still competitive. We nearly won the title last year. We reach the champions leaque final a few years ago and etc. Soon or later we would start to loose rich sponsorships, TV Revenue, fans, sales of shirt & many more when the team is not winning anything for more than 5 seasons. Sometime soon, Arsenal would need to sell their players to cover up the expenses & will end up like Leeds too.. In Chelsea's case, Mourinho has conflict with the owner. If he had stayed more longer, he would hv won all the cups & chelsea would hv been un-stopable. FYI, AW has never beaten Mourinho in any competition. Well, what makes you think that Arsenal will be like leads? Arsenal never spends money in an irresponsible manner and they have structured their debts in such a way that it is manageable. Leads debts were based on short term success and any club that does that are not managed properly and deserved to go under. How sure are you that if Mourinho stayed longer he would have won all the cups. I thought he was sack for not performing and not producing beautiful football? May i also know how much more money did he spend in order to achieve his objective? Is this sustainable? Will you pay money to watch the team played. As far as i know, it is chelsea whereby the stadium is not filled and not Arsenal. If you like to support Mourinho so much why dun you switch your support to Inter Milan. After all, Inter Milan is willing to spend money unlike Arsenal and your hero Mourinho is there. And Inter is going to win the scudetto this year for sure. For me, I will stick with Arsenal and endure with the near misses and the mistakes that AW has made. But i will laugh at all the clubs that go under at the later years. It is frustrating for Arsene not to spend money. But i rather spend money that is worth while then just throw money for immediate success. I do agree that he has to spend money to supplement to weaker areas and perhaps he did not do so. If he did have the money to spend, I would want him to strengthen the necessary areas, otherwise, it would be better to be prudent |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:51 PM) In Arsenal's case, we can't be going on like this. o'really?Soon or later we would start to loose rich sponsorships, TV Revenue, fans, sales of shirt & many more when the team is not winning anything for more than 5 seasons. Sometime soon, Arsenal would need to sell their players to cover up the expenses & will end up like Leeds too.. In Chelsea's case, Mourinho has conflict with the owner. If he had stayed more longer, he would hv won all the cups & chelsea would hv been un-stopable. FYI, AW has never beaten Mourinho in any competition. The Premier League has 20 teams and there is only 1 winner. So in the next 5 seasons 19 teams will be bankrupt because they lose all the rubbish you just mentioned? Please use your tiny brain to extract the ultimate facts here. Not all the supporters are like you always thinking that the club must spend to get a trophy. There are still many loyalist in Arsenal FC. For your info, Arsenal income and financial is the most stable among the teams. When we had finished paying the debts for building the stadium you will know. If Arsene is following your advice to spend on multi superstar we will become like Leeds. FYI again, please consider the team conditions before comparing the Chelski with us. Without Abramovich they can't even participate in the UEFA CUP. I see you demand a sugar daddy here. Whoisthedaddy? You? |
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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Jan 15 2009, 02:54 PM) MU will bankrupt....wat a fact...ill see how many years will it takes for this to happen..good luck..epace Well, I think many bigger corporations has fallen recently. Lehman brothers, AIG, Washington Mutual which has net assets that are much greater then Manchester United. A relatively big club like Leads also went down. So what makes you think that Manchester United will not go down considering that their debt level is increasing by the day.Added on January 15, 2009, 3:17 pm QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:12 PM) Why dun u go and support them then.This post has been edited by sylar111: Jan 15 2009, 03:17 PM |
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Jan 15 2009, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:14 PM) As far as I know. I think the waiting list for the stadium is still quite long. So we do not have to worry about the stadium not being filled. There is a long term agreement with Emirates that is not going to expire soon. Fan base are expanding based on the beautiful football that is being played. For example, how many ppl do you know of who support Arsenal until recently?I am sure that you know of many more ppl who supports Arsenal as compared to mayby 1 or 2 years ago. From what i understand, isn't TV revenue equally distributed among the 19 other clubs? And yes we did not win anything but we were still competitive. We nearly won the title last year. We reach the champions leaque final a few years ago and etc. No point of playing beautiful football if you can't win anything. People are looking for glory.Well, what makes you think that Arsenal will be like leads? Arsenal never spends money in an irresponsible manner and they have structured their debts in such a way that it is manageable. Leads debts were based on short term success and any club that does that are not managed properly and deserved to go under. How sure are you that if Mourinho stayed longer he would have won all the cups. I thought he was sack for not performing and not producing beautiful football? May i also know how much more money did he spend in order to achieve his objective? Is this sustainable? Will you pay money to watch the team played. As far as i know, it is chelsea whereby the stadium is not filled and not Arsenal. If you like to support Mourinho so much why dun you switch your support to Inter Milan. After all, Inter Milan is willing to spend money unlike Arsenal and your hero Mourinho is there. And Inter is going to win the scudetto this year for sure. For me, I will stick with Arsenal and endure with the near misses and the mistakes that AW has made. But i will laugh at all the clubs that go under at the later years. It is frustrating for Arsene not to spend money. But i rather spend money that is worth while then just throw money for immediate success. I do agree that he has to spend money to supplement to weaker areas and perhaps he did not do so. If he did have the money to spend, I would want him to strengthen the necessary areas, otherwise, it would be better to be prudent Arsenal fan club is growing but how much is growth compared to Chelsea, MU & Liverpool? Do you u think Arsenal's fans club has the highest growth? Almost winning is nothing & more worst when u loose in the final or last moment of the season. |
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Sometime football is more than winning, a fans that bail on the club after 5 years with no cup do not deserved to be called fans.
Well my mom still rooting for Soton aka Southampton, guest what, they not win the EPL title, but the fans will always be by their side and depend on the fans it self, Some fans just a die-hard, glory hunter or a fed-up fan!. my 2 cent |
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:21 PM) No point of playing beautiful football if you can't win anything. People are looking for glory. Are you saying Chelski?Arsenal fan club is growing but how much is growth compared to Chelsea, MU & Liverpool? Do you u think Arsenal's fans club has the highest growth? Almost winning is nothing & more worst when u loose in the final or last moment of the season. Go laugh at them now for all the admiration of their wealth. |
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jan 15 2009, 03:15 PM) o'really? Can you use ur rubbish brain to think wht was Arsenal's position in the last 10 years? Is this wht u call a champion team with the same manager since 1996 after 4 years without any trophies when Henry, Hleb, Lehmann, Gilberto, Toure was around?The Premier League has 20 teams and there is only 1 winner. So in the next 5 seasons 19 teams will be bankrupt because they lose all the rubbish you just mentioned? Please use your tiny brain to extract the ultimate facts here. Not all the supporters are like you always thinking that the club must spend to get a trophy. There are still many loyalist in Arsenal FC.[ For your info, Arsenal income and financial is the most stable among the teams. When we had finished paying the debts for building the stadium you will know. If Arsene is following your advice to spend on multi superstar we will become like Leeds. FYI again, please consider the team conditions before comparing the Chelski with us. Without Abramovich they can't even participate in the UEFA CUP. I see you demand a sugar daddy here. Whoisthedaddy? You? If clubs like Hull, Stoke, WBA, Bolton & etc not winning anything is not a big deal cause they don't spend too much in transfer window plus the ir expenses & debts are not as high as Arsenal. Added on January 15, 2009, 3:32 pm QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jan 15 2009, 03:27 PM) It is about Arsenal.... We are not talking abt Chelsea's performances here. U can go to Chelsea's thread to talk abt that.This post has been edited by Casanova88: Jan 15 2009, 03:32 PM |
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arsenal have not been spending big money since wenger is our manager n he has won us trophies....therefore i could see y wenger refuse to follow other clubs that hav been spending big to win trophies...even im frustrated by the lack of strengthening but i'll always luv arsenal till death do us part....i only ask to strengthen the team where it matters such as a DM, CB n a winger....but if arsenal can spend only on one player then it must be a DM....nasri can play in the middle n replace cesc as our playmaker...that's not a surprise since it is his natural position n he was playing when he was at Marseille....but plzzz buy players this january AW!!!we want a trophy....huhuhuhuhu............
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