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Is form 4 Hard?
Is form 4 Hard?
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Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM, updated 16y ago
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SPM SPM SPM
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Jan 6 2009, 10:25 PM
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Form 4 and 5, I dun think there is any project.... I don't remember. Only got practical.
Not really hard la, just consistent study will do. Try making a habit to study everyday, even 1 hour will help you out. But you can't compare PMR sej and SPM one. |
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Jan 6 2009, 10:26 PM
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Buddy, when you go higher to college or university, you'll soon realize your secondary school project is nothing compared to what you will be doing later on.
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Jan 6 2009, 10:26 PM
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Jan 6 2009, 10:28 PM
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Right now I'm 21 taking degree edi but still haven feel any pressure in my studies. Mayb that's y my results are not too good.
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Jan 6 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, If there are projects for you , then better do your best. I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? To me personally , those projects are important. Actually you don't just get gred for your projects , but you learn something. You gain infos. Difficult or not , well to me yeah. Some are difficult but some are not. Think positive. Good luck TS. |
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Jan 6 2009, 11:52 PM
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eh... project i think only got pendidikan moral n add maths
i only remember tis two form 4 not hard la actually |
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Jan 6 2009, 11:56 PM
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Hard?
It's pretty easy if you compare to Form 5 when you need to read both forms. Projects? Just do it. Take it as an experience, college/university assignments are hell compare to them. |
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Jan 7 2009, 03:05 AM
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welcome to add maths, physics, chem, bio etc etc lol xD
good luck |
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Jan 7 2009, 08:14 AM
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not really hard if you study hard.....
I think University syllabus are more tougher compare to that... |
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Jan 7 2009, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, I am sure you can learn some new knowledge and experience through doing projects. For SPM, if you have positive attitude in study and strong determination to get high marks in the examination, you shouldn't have much difficulty to achieve excellent SPM result.I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? |
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Jan 7 2009, 10:53 AM
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if form 4 hard then no more top students in malaysia
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Jan 7 2009, 11:22 AM
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In form 4, you'll be studying a few subjects that are A.Maths, Chemistry, Physics and Biology. You might not get used to the few new subjects at first but what i can say is that lots and lots of practice is very very important. If not, you will be left behind. Especially A.Maths.
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Jan 7 2009, 12:08 PM
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If you think form 4 and form 5 are hard, university is even worse
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Jan 7 2009, 12:24 PM
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its not that form 4 is hard or anything, you just need to know that studies are crucial to develop your mind to be more open to newer theories and the new knowledge you will be receiving.
always keep track of tasks, deadlines and colleagues. by managing these stuff, it would be pretty easy to study and not fool yourself when the time comes |
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Jan 7 2009, 12:32 PM
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Just do the project la.
Form 4 isnt hard if you are consistent in studying. |
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Jan 7 2009, 12:52 PM
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Form 4 is the time you should be hardworking, because you need to get your foundations and fundamentals right, like in add maths, physics, chemistry. I was not privileged enough to have good teachers, I really studied very very hard during my Form 5 years, but it paid off well
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TS... the minimum for ur SPM result you should get is 5 credits..then u're safe already
but if u aspire to be an engineer or doctor..then of coz u have to work much, much harder This post has been edited by slushie: Jan 7 2009, 02:01 PM |
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Form 4 and 5 is the time to enjoy ur last moments with all ur hengdais and jimuis cause u wont be seeing them that often, like everyday? once u leave high school ...
If you're aiming higher education in professional fields than you better aim to get better score lor ... else better appreciate those ppl around u before u leave the schooling days . |
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Jan 7 2009, 02:21 PM
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not so hard
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Jan 7 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Jan 7 2009, 11:22 AM) In form 4, you'll be studying a few subjects that are A.Maths, Chemistry, Physics and Biology. You might not get used to the few new subjects at first but what i can say is that lots and lots of practice is very very important. If not, you will be left behind. Especially A.Maths. I second that.Lotsa exercises. |
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Jan 7 2009, 02:31 PM
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come on la..Form 4 is honeymoon year. this is the year which you can do whatever you want!!!
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Jan 7 2009, 02:50 PM
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don't listen to what roy said. if you enjoy honeymoon year in F4, you're going to suffer in F5. then it's twice the workload.
honestly, it's not hard. you just need to know exam techniques, etc. try to understand things instead of memorizing. =) at the same time, have fun! doing a levels now and it makes me miss SPM... (but i'd never go through SPM again of course) |
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Jan 7 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, Yes it is. If you are in science stream, you have to do your "peka" which is important because the result will be printed on your spm certificate. Add math as well. As for art stream, theres one project about lukisan if not mistaken which is counted on spm result as well. Moral also got 1 project which is important for spm result. Generally, Form 4&5's project are important. Dude, project aint wasting time, by doing project, you learnt something.I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? By the way, enjoy your school life as much as you can. Because after your form 5, i bet you will miss your school life. Now, you think im bullshitting you, but hey, wait and see. At the same time, study hard. This post has been edited by kailzer: Jan 7 2009, 05:41 PM |
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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Jan 7 2009, 02:31 PM) and then failed in SPM next year?A lot of those good students who passed their PMR with flying colours treated Form 4 like you said and they failed miserably in SPM... Honeymoon? Go ahead if you want to fail ur spm |
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Jan 7 2009, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Jan 7 2009, 02:31 PM) Dont teach people the wrong thing. Form 4 is never a honeymoon year. QUOTE(kailzer @ Jan 7 2009, 05:39 PM) By the way, enjoy your school life as much as you can. Because after your form 5, i bet you will miss your school life. Now, you think im bullshitting you, but hey, wait and see. At the same time, study hard. Thats true.I find that i enjoy my secondary school life more than college or uni.There are less stress in secondary school and study last minute still kinda work. |
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Jan 7 2009, 10:36 PM
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Ok guys.. i too am scared of form4... Cause the period teached by teacher is really less...
Do any1 have any startegy or tips on how to get well in study? P.S: Dont say study smart/hard or go ttn and etc please.. ^^ |
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Jan 7 2009, 11:03 PM
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If u dun study hard or smart or go to tuition, how u expect to do well except u r a genius...u can try to understand the subject instead of memorising it..
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Jan 7 2009, 11:30 PM
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dun be stressed out, form 4 CAN be honeymoon year, just balance ur time properly
i did lots of cool stuff when i was sixteen, but i also prioritize studies though u can still afford to relax a wee bit bcuz no big public exam until u reach f5... but dont ever slack!! work hard, play harder, very simple only |
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Jan 7 2009, 11:40 PM
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basically , form 4 is your foundation to what you're going to do in form 5.
If you flop in your form 4 , its harder for you to catch up with the syllabus as you will be missing out a lot and will be left behind in the studies. Honeymoon year? doubt so , many think it is since its after PMR , but from my POV , PMR is just an easy exam. SPM and the college/university exams are the ones that determine your future. So dont think of playing a fool in your form 4 year. Dont understand anything , just ask your teachers , don't be shy. Projects and stuff , its simple work actually , ask for a sample of your senior's work from your teacher as a reference. That would ease your burden in the projects. |
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Jan 8 2009, 12:07 AM
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If you are only targeting for Form 6 and not scholarships or flying grades, I can find no fault in treating Form 4 as a honeymoon year. Heck, you can even treat Form 5 as ur honeymoon year as still pass all ur subjects, like I did
But if you wan to get better grades I suggest you not to do it. Just balance ur study time with other activities and you should get a fairly good grade. Good luck to you. |
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Jan 8 2009, 12:09 AM
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don't worry about the projects lah. especially add math project for form 4 and 5. every year the answers will be on the internet.
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Jan 8 2009, 01:21 AM
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i miss form 4 & 5.... all my buddies are seperated... :cries:
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Jan 8 2009, 02:05 AM
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if study hard in form 1-3 form 4 will be easy
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, Well if you think form 4 is hard, wait till you reach the day before your SPM. Just kidding. The questions will not be that hard neither it will be difficult. Will it bring stress? Yes if you broke up with your GF / BF (just kidding). Anyway consistency is key. Study regularly and you will find it relaxing. Good luck I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? |
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Jan 8 2009, 02:27 AM
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Always do your teacher homework and dont neglect your studys should be ok already..
especially when there is a hard subject,try to revise more... Don't wait last minute study..if not u sure will regret |
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if ur taking A.maths, i recomend u to start polish ur skills and do alot of excersice in f4. Never stdy it last minute, not even genius can do dat i guess >_>
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Jan 7 2009, 11:03 PM) If u dun study hard or smart or go to tuition, how u expect to do well except u r a genius...u can try to understand the subject instead of memorising it.. Just to tell you... I have tuition nearly every subject except bio,bc,sejarah,moral.. I already concentrate the best in the class..I just wanna ask for some tips and trick on how to study well... Cause i always stress myself out everytime i face an exam.... |
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if form 4 is hard, wait till you go to form 6.
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Jan 8 2009, 01:35 PM
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Hey guys . Don't scare the form 4's. Relax.
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form 4 all relax2
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Jan 8 2009, 01:51 PM
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hard for me. xP im in form 5 .. most important thing is to keep up. now my addmaths like shit, fail my exams. better concentrate during class. u in pure science? if ur not then i cant say, i went to pure science
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f4...Relax but don't to much la...Must study oso la.If not F5, u will die.
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Jan 8 2009, 02:28 PM
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Yeap.. I am in pure science... I very very scare of the biology lolx.. 1 week only have 2 period in school... And you know.. my school teacher is kind of suck...
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Form 4 is quite a big jump from Form 3 but there's definitely more to study in Form 5. Compared to Pre-U, Form 4 in like a foundation. Compared to uni, Form 4 is relaxing.
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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jan 8 2009, 02:28 PM) Yeap.. I am in pure science... I very very scare of the biology lolx.. 1 week only have 2 period in school... And you know.. my school teacher is kind of suck... Bio is more focus on understanding than memorizing...Once u understand how it works, u can get it right... A lot of students seem to memorize it rather than understanding which is already proven as a failed method.If ur teacher sucks, get urself a tuition teacher...not hard, rite? |
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i do know that add math is hard but what the heck. I drank 1 kettle of coffee 3 1 week before spm. I manage to survive. Thank God. Don't try this though
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Jan 8 2009, 05:42 PM
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After form4 - no hard
Just get into form4 - complain hard |
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spm is rather easy
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, FYI, those who got 43 and above for papers like Geo, History and did well in their assignment given, all got A's. So, if you think that doing your SPM project is a waste of time, don't do it and don't expect to get good grades. I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? Just my 2 cents. Added on January 8, 2009, 7:11 pm QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jan 8 2009, 02:28 PM) Yeap.. I am in pure science... I very very scare of the biology lolx.. 1 week only have 2 period in school... And you know.. my school teacher is kind of suck... This is totally bizarre? Pure science stream classes having only 2 period for Bio? Then how about the rest of the subject? This post has been edited by firefoxian: Jan 8 2009, 07:11 PM |
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Well i had mine
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Yep everyone said fomr 4 is honeymoon. Hey take me for example, I did'nt study for Form 4 and yet my SPM is good (9As).
But if you want to get a good grip of it, try finish up each practice module in the end of each chapter in your revision book. Thats more than enough for a Form 4. |
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sorry i have to say this.......in the current dumbed downed spm, 9a (even if it is 9a1) is nothing.........there are thousands of people with 10a1, 11a1. 12a1.....just to keep things in perspective........
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Form 4 is just a year where you are trying to understanding some new subjects, e.g. bio, chem, add maths etc.
i did badly for my chem in f4 but as i go along, i find it kinda easy during f5 because the things look more familiar to me already. at first everything was so alien to me! study consistently in f4 so that you won't suffer when you're preparing for your SPM. i agree with some that f4 is a honeymoon year in the sense that no major exam is coming up, but then you can't slack too much as you'll be left behind and playing catch up is such a tall mountain to climb. |
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 9 2009, 09:24 AM) sorry i have to say this.......in the current dumbed downed spm, 9a (even if it is 9a1) is nothing.........there are thousands of people with 10a1, 11a1. 12a1.....just to keep things in perspective........ Yep, but believe me if you're a Bumi even 7A1 could land you a medic (UMS). If you got contact, well everything is possible.. |
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Jan 9 2009, 11:38 AM) Yep, but believe me if you're a Bumi even 7A1 could land you a medic (UMS). If you got contact, well everything is possible.. no.......7a1 in spm will NOT get anyone into 'medic' in ums........you cannot enter ipta with spm......it may however get you a scholarship, entry into an easy pre-u programme like matrik or foundation etc........and if you do well enough, you may then get into one of the ipta medicinel programmes......... your nick sounds like a bumi.........no? |
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Form 4 is honey moon year !!
enjoy ur secondary school life in form 4, dont stress urself. Go join clubs and society. Dont worry, u still can catch up in form 5. SPM very easy...i mean compared to STPM la.. STPM students will 100% agree with me. |
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Jan 9 2009, 04:38 PM
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try stpm/ alvl and u would noe tat form4 is peanuts.
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QUOTE(chloe_yee87 @ Jan 9 2009, 02:24 PM) Form 4 is honey moon year !! 200% agree !! f4= honey moon year, go get as more posts in club n society as possible.... to let ur testimonial look nice.....enjoy ur secondary school life in form 4, dont stress urself. Go join clubs and society. Dont worry, u still can catch up in form 5. SPM very easy...i mean compared to STPM la.. STPM students will 100% agree with me. f5= if u get very many posts, juz throw the jobs to ur junior |
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Jan 9 2009, 05:24 PM
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tats wat the seniours say, f4=honey moon year
so i always talk in class, dint pay attention..end up dunno all the basic chemistry(ionic,covalent,molarity...etc, stoichiometry the worse) sowhen go f5,..the chemistry was like HELL to me. need take xtra tuition etc. thank god i got an A for SPM>! |
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QUOTE(loveuallso @ Jan 9 2009, 05:24 PM) tats wat the seniours say, f4=honey moon year tat's y lo... f4 & f5, no need listen to class oso can... juz rely on tuition n study on ur own... so i always talk in class, dint pay attention..end up dunno all the basic chemistry(ionic,covalent,molarity...etc, stoichiometry the worse) sowhen go f5,..the chemistry was like HELL to me. need take xtra tuition etc. thank god i got an A for SPM>! TS, tis few weeks u might suffer juz like i did...but after tat...enjoy ur honeymoon bah. f4 is my yr to start cheat on exam ( juz monthly exam la) |
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QUOTE(louis6 @ Jan 9 2009, 05:30 PM) tat's y lo... f4 & f5, no need listen to class oso can... juz rely on tuition n study on ur own... dun la give this kind of excuse...f4 basic very important lor.(no point listening to teacher, cuz waste time), but tuition must listen, and must revise...cuz must get a firm fondation oni when form5 and for ur pre-u easier....if not very hard lor.TS, tis few weeks u might suffer juz like i did...but after tat...enjoy ur honeymoon bah. f4 is my yr to start cheat on exam ( juz monthly exam la) |
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Form 4 is ok but you still have to study. Don't go honeymoon year. You need to build up your foundation for form 4 and when you enter form 5, things will get easier a bit. XD
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piece of cake.
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form 4 is easy. easier than form 5. but a little harder than form 3. dont be scared.
some people might say its honeymoon year. this can be true. so enjoy yourself k. in form 5, youll be studying more so less time playing. form 4 and 5 will feel so fast. the next thing you know youre already out of high school. I miss high school. if u got money spm is not that hard. medium result already can enter any good college and graduate. but in form 4 dont completely ignore study. try to keep up and understand what you learn. so in f5 it'd be easier. Good luck. |
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Jan 10 2009, 12:53 PM
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1,424 posts Joined: Sep 2007 From: Woodlands, Singapore |
F4 isn'y hard at all...But if u din really master it..U will suffer in F5...
Actually F5 is honey moon year not F4..U master F4, F5 u can understand vry fast.. |
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Jan 10 2009, 01:22 PM
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2,047 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: Kampong Pisang |
form 4 for science class very hard for me
i jsut change to account stream |
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Jan 10 2009, 02:16 PM
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my form 4 moment play a fool from monday to friday.
then after 9am class, break the gate go out ponteng go cc play cs, teh tarik. it was fun during form4. but form5 is diff. gonna catch up all the studies. my form4 final year result all phailed. |
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Jan 10 2009, 07:13 PM
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F4 is tough when you go from F3 to F4. There would be a MASSIVE INCREASE in workload (if you're in science stream, the arts students seem to be relaxing while we were slaving away in the first half of the year).
But when you go to F5, it starts to slow down and everything gets relaxing so enjoy your F5 instead of your F4. ^-^ I love my F5. It was memorable, my friends were awesome and I miss them. <3 |
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Apr 14 2009, 04:21 PM
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17 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: Cheras,Kajang |
i m pure sc student ~
form 4 now.. LOL,and i got sains pertanian !!== STRESS~~! started to worry about my mid year exam oso =X try to form a study group ~ dunno its will work or not >< |
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Apr 14 2009, 04:36 PM
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not at all!! dun giv up, mst study hard for form4 otherwise ur form5 wil be ur nightmare
QUOTE(HiMe-SuN @ Apr 14 2009, 04:21 PM) i m pure sc student ~ choose ur mate wisely and everything will work like magic...hapened to me, bt i wasted 23months..yes i oni study for 1monthform 4 now.. LOL,and i got sains pertanian !!== STRESS~~! started to worry about my mid year exam oso =X try to form a study group ~ dunno its will work or not >< This post has been edited by styrwr91: Apr 14 2009, 04:39 PM |
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Apr 14 2009, 04:39 PM
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Form 4 is a honeymoon year. =)
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Apr 14 2009, 05:14 PM
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just concentrate in class and you'll be fine. hard or not depends whether u want to learn and ask questions when dont understand
if u good enuf to juggle, of cos can honeymoon every year |
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Apr 14 2009, 05:21 PM
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F4 is honeymoon year~~~XD
F5 you must gambatte or else you're history |
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Apr 14 2009, 05:23 PM
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781 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: with your mom |
Form 4 and 5 both honeymoon year for me...
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Apr 14 2009, 05:23 PM
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better dont make form 4 too honeymoon or else you will suffer in form 5. just some constant study will do la... understand what you will study then when go to form 5 not difficult.
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Apr 14 2009, 05:48 PM
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form 4 and 5 hard?????
u wil find f4 & f5 onli a nut. when u read f6 book... i don think f4 very hard if u do your revision regularly and nvr drop any chap especially ur science sub.... |
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Apr 14 2009, 06:01 PM
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1,487 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Penang |
Yes it is very hard. Can hardly cope and breathe when in form 4, Had to study 25 hours a day.
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Apr 14 2009, 06:09 PM
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wtH!! since when form 4 is hard pulak? people said form 3 , form 5, form 6 is hard.. on wat ground that u saying form 4 is hard? --> laziness?
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Apr 14 2009, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Apr 14 2009, 05:48 PM) form 4 and 5 hard????? yea, agree with you..u wil find f4 & f5 onli a nut. when u read f6 book... i don think f4 very hard if u do your revision regularly and nvr drop any chap especially ur science sub.... form 4 & 5 not really hard la, that time in the school quite enjoy one.. |
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Apr 14 2009, 06:18 PM
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17 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: Cheras,Kajang |
o.O..
i think i shuld make a time table d== form 4 honeymoon ?? NO!!! so stress ah== when i m form 5 or 6 i m going to die for stress LOL!! mayb i will pengsan when i m reading my refrences book =P kd |
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Apr 14 2009, 06:19 PM
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omg cant you sense the sarcasm in my post? study 25 hours a day?
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Apr 14 2009, 06:23 PM
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what ?? its not about study whole day LOL..
its bout the stress lah lol.. |
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Apr 14 2009, 06:26 PM
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does a day makes out of 25 hours?
FINE! 1 DAY=24 HOURS OK!? I was trying to be sarcastic by saying i had to study 25 hours a day WHICH DOEST NOT EXIST!......Omg... i thought all lyn forumers are smart. |
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Apr 14 2009, 06:31 PM
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lol...i get what u means ok?
n i m juz telling ok? zzzz |
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Apr 14 2009, 06:33 PM
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Apr 14 2009, 06:35 PM
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Apr 14 2009, 06:37 PM
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no....not hard at all...just take everything easy...
P.S:Enjoy ur skul life now or regret later |
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Apr 14 2009, 06:55 PM
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Actually, I'm pretty sure your Pendidikan Moral/Islam project counts for SPM. But once you enter Form 4, make sure you're prepared and get your fundamentals right, because when you hit Form 5, people are gonna lay on the pressure, regardless of how prepared you are.
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Apr 14 2009, 06:59 PM
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Form 4 wet wet water (cantonese) la..
But for Form 4-ians, may not be ma.. Anyway, try hard my friends, and appreciate the moment in your final 2 years of secondary school life. You'll miss it when you are college. College life is.. quite enjoyable also what.. but different from secondary school life.. All the best! |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:00 PM
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f4 is a honeymoon year..jz relax and suffer later
only fun thg i did in chem for f4 was the potassium+water experiment other than that msian chem experiments are boring...unlike UK whr the students get to play with liquid nitrogen |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Apr 14 2009, 07:00 PM) f4 is a honeymoon year..jz relax and suffer later You add how much potassium into the water o..only fun thg i did in chem for f4 was the potassium+water experiment other than that msian chem experiments are boring...unlike UK whr the students get to play with liquid nitrogen We only get to add a very very small chunk, about the size of a grain of rice. Not syok also la.. Bio disect frog better, but that was form5. |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:05 PM
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form 4 is hardest for me because form3 >>form4...we need to learn all those NEW things...add math..bla bla bla.....
but once you get use then is very easy in form 5(for me)...lol [ This post has been edited by THO: Apr 14 2009, 07:06 PM |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:59 PM
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u need to adapt urself to new environment, new syllabus, new subjects, new format, but after that ull be just fine...
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Apr 14 2009, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, Don't remember any important projects except for Morale.....I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? You just follow up.......shouldn't be much problems....... For SPM, you must do past year papers.......it helps....... Not only you'll know the structure of the paper, how will the questions being asked...... You might be lucky enough to get some questions which came out again on your year....... After you enter college or Uni......you'll realise SPM is just a stepping stone, for you to further your study....... |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:14 PM
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When I was form 4, i thought it was really hard compared to form 3! 'Anjakan Paradigma', that was the first word my form 4 BM teacher taught us and it means culture shock, to describe our first few classes in form 4
But don't worry, you will get used to it All the best! Once you're in University you'll look back and start laughing at your old young self |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:28 PM
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I don't think form 4 is much much harder than form 3.
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Apr 14 2009, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Apr 14 2009, 07:00 PM) f4 is a honeymoon year..jz relax and suffer later my teacher cut me a chunk of abt 1cmX1cm. i kept on asking for '2nd servings' until she realised it and we got a scolding. the thg literally exploded in smoke which hit the ceiling when we tossed the stuff into the basin.only fun thg i did in chem for f4 was the potassium+water experiment other than that msian chem experiments are boring...unlike UK whr the students get to play with liquid nitrogen |
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Apr 14 2009, 09:01 PM
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everything's easy if you think it is and vice versa. i cant believe people asking 'is form 4 hard' when i think somany malaysian just pass thru it fine =X
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Apr 14 2009, 09:53 PM
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OMG la... I couldn't believe someone can ask such a question... Form 4 and 5 is EASY la... Come take a look at the STPM books... You will faint.. xD
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Apr 14 2009, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Apr 14 2009, 08:58 PM) my teacher cut me a chunk of abt 1cmX1cm. i kept on asking for '2nd servings' until she realised it and we got a scolding. the thg literally exploded in smoke which hit the ceiling when we tossed the stuff into the basin. potassium + water = fun ... long time didnt tough chemical things already.. |
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Apr 14 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(JayChua @ Apr 14 2009, 09:53 PM) OMG la... I couldn't believe someone can ask such a question... Form 4 and 5 is EASY la... Come take a look at the STPM books... You will faint.. xD Form 6 is a whole different league, don't let me even start discussing that issue! xD But in my personal opinion, switching from science in form 5 to arts in form 6 made stpm easier to catch up with. Oh and I just read TS's original question. If you think like that now in PMR, I assure you that form 4 will be gila susah for you. Giving up in small things because you think it is leceh is the first step to failing your results Pinknotebook |
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Apr 14 2009, 11:41 PM
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OMG... Your teacher really let you all play with potassium... Madness...
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Apr 15 2009, 12:06 AM
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Lol, I also do potassium when the my teacher in not around. He told us only to use a tiny bit of Magnesium before went back to office.
Potassium is quite reactive. I like dance on water or someting like that. My teacher spot some substance in the basin but just smile as he knew we all will be playing with it. He kinda cool as he just graduate 4 years ago I think. He's just like one of us. |
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Apr 15 2009, 12:12 AM
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if my whole life of my studies... i loved my form 4 d most.. not only did i studied the hardest, i had the most fun
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Apr 15 2009, 12:22 AM
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Yea, Form 4 and Form 5 is very relaxing for me. Most of the time I'll be skipping school sleeping at home xD Until one day when I entered the class, my teacher said " eh ,awak datang hari ini, tak tidur kat rumah ke?" Cool teacher eh
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Apr 15 2009, 12:24 AM
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It's called the honeymoon year for a reason...
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Apr 15 2009, 01:03 AM
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Form 4 IS a HONEYMOON year... I only get serious when I come to form 5.. OMG how time flies... And I'm going back to form 6...
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Apr 15 2009, 01:31 AM
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the topic is so just go study la boi. don't be lazy and be a good student now |
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Apr 15 2009, 01:44 AM
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the most enjoyable things in form 4 is the activities of the uniform body..
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Apr 15 2009, 12:44 PM
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And sleeping in class of course! The teachers dont give a hoot about it... LOL..
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Apr 15 2009, 01:36 PM
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sej-naptime
sivics-homewrktime moral-naptime bm-naptime/homewrktime maths-joketime eng-joketime chem-playtime(only in experiments) phys-serious lah this one experiments boring bio-joketime addmaths-show off time (lol) |
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Apr 15 2009, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Apr 15 2009, 01:36 PM) sej-naptime LOL!!! That's what i literary did during form 4 to... xDsivics-homewrktime moral-naptime bm-naptime/homewrktime maths-joketime eng-joketime chem-playtime(only in experiments) phys-serious lah this one experiments boring bio-joketime addmaths-show off time (lol) |
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Apr 15 2009, 03:15 PM
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definitely no honeymoon year 4 u, just studying consistent, play games sumore (but not often lol, u might end up forgot wat u studyin) n relax. totally not hard, wan talk hard. u try form6, 10x hard
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Apr 15 2009, 03:17 PM
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Apr 15 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Apr 15 2009, 01:36 PM) sej-naptime lol mine:sivics-homewrktime moral-naptime bm-naptime/homewrktime maths-joketime eng-joketime chem-playtime(only in experiments) phys-serious lah this one experiments boring bio-joketime addmaths-show off time (lol) sej - do addmaths homework time moral - do physics homework time BM - got no BM teacher lol. so play time maths - listen to teacher cos she's young and pretty chem - listen 150% cos she's really good and strict physics- listen 150% cos she's really good and strict bio - tido time addmaths - indifferent BI - tok kok with teacher time lol |
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Apr 15 2009, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(melvin91motorola @ Apr 15 2009, 03:15 PM) definitely no honeymoon year 4 u, just studying consistent, play games sumore (but not often lol, u might end up forgot wat u studyin) n relax. totally not hard, wan talk hard. u try form6, 10x hard Agreed... Form 6 kills... But if get good results, its worth the suffering... |
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Apr 15 2009, 05:36 PM
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Apr 15 2009, 06:15 PM
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Form 6 actually prepare us for uni ler... Form 4 balik la... I still couln't believe someone could ask such a question... OMG...
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Apr 15 2009, 07:00 PM
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Yeap
Kids these days, they wan it easy ish bunyi macam orang tua plak |
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Apr 16 2009, 01:38 AM
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if dun wan study form 4 then get married la....
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Apr 16 2009, 01:47 AM
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When i was in Form 4..i feels likes it's damn hard..but after getting into form 6 and results come out..luckily quite satisfying la..i think back,form 4 is juz like 1+1=2
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Apr 16 2009, 01:54 AM
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form4= honeymoon
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Apr 16 2009, 02:37 AM
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Apr 16 2009, 06:00 AM
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Apr 16 2009, 10:47 AM
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From my experience, form 4 is a very essential. Form 5 would be a bliss if u have a good
foundation in form 4 |
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Apr 16 2009, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(JayChua @ Apr 16 2009, 10:47 AM) From my experience, form 4 is a very essential. Form 5 would be a bliss if u have a good yeap, which is why i find it distasteful of ppl calling it honeymoon year (maybe that's why we hear of stories ppl getting married early eh? foundation in form 4 I have a friend, but he's a genius la, don't think anyone else can do this. In school, he always ponteng sekolah and go CC play CS wan. Mid-year and year end exams, he just buka buku teks, look at it for 30 minutes. blardy hell he can manage to get A. And yeah, same for SPM lol. Study only on last month. result kuar 10A1 sui sui wan. |
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Apr 16 2009, 12:15 PM
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Form 4 and 5 aren't hard for me...as someone said...just need consistent studying.
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Apr 16 2009, 12:54 PM
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when you go in to college/university
you'll think form 4 is like a piece of cake de lah. |
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Apr 16 2009, 01:41 PM
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if form 4 is hard.. wat is the hardness in form 5, form 6 and uni? there is no free lunch in tis world.. work ur @$$ if u wanna succeed..kids tis days everything must be feed to the mouth straight .. lazy even to pick their on hard to feed themselve..
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Apr 16 2009, 02:31 PM
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Jun 4 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Apr 16 2009, 12:11 PM) yeap, which is why i find it distasteful of ppl calling it honeymoon year (maybe that's why we hear of stories ppl getting married early eh? Ppl study at home u dunno mah ... there is no free A without hardwordI have a friend, but he's a genius la, don't think anyone else can do this. In school, he always ponteng sekolah and go CC play CS wan. Mid-year and year end exams, he just buka buku teks, look at it for 30 minutes. blardy hell he can manage to get A. And yeah, same for SPM lol. Study only on last month. result kuar 10A1 sui sui wan. |
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Jun 4 2009, 03:47 PM
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form 4 a....cnt even remember tat i studied form4 until 3mths b4 spm...sleep, slack n ply all the while..
QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Apr 16 2009, 12:11 PM) yeap, which is why i find it distasteful of ppl calling it honeymoon year (maybe that's why we hear of stories ppl getting married early eh? I have a friend, but he's a genius la, don't think anyone else can do this. In school, he always ponteng sekolah and go CC play CS wan. Mid-year and year end exams, he just buka buku teks, look at it for 30 minutes. blardy hell he can manage to get A. And yeah, same for SPM lol. Study only on last month. result kuar 10A1 sui sui wan. QUOTE(macamtakada @ Jun 4 2009, 03:19 PM) yea i somewhat agree wif u, there is no free A without hardwork...coz im almost the same as ur fren thr... |
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Jun 4 2009, 03:56 PM
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weird question form 4 hard?
I only started studying 2 months before SPM ,11A |
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Jun 4 2009, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(macamtakada @ Jun 4 2009, 04:19 PM) sure there is no such thing a free a ...but the question is how long and how hard is it to understand the knowledge(the student)...that is usually the bright or so called genius student ...usually only read the text book 30 min then can score already.. have seen one |
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Apr 16 2009, 12:11 PM) yeap, which is why i find it distasteful of ppl calling it honeymoon year (maybe that's why we hear of stories ppl getting married early eh? What's his IQ level?I have a friend, but he's a genius la, don't think anyone else can do this. In school, he always ponteng sekolah and go CC play CS wan. Mid-year and year end exams, he just buka buku teks, look at it for 30 minutes. blardy hell he can manage to get A. And yeah, same for SPM lol. Study only on last month. result kuar 10A1 sui sui wan. |
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Jun 4 2009, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 6 2009, 10:26 PM) Buddy, when you go higher to college or university, you'll soon realize your secondary school project is nothing compared to what you will be doing later on. +1 LOL.When you're taking PMR, you'll realize that UPSR is so EASY. When you're taking SPM, you'll realize that PMR is so EASY. When you're taking STPM/A-level etc, you'll realize that What you've been through are just tiny nuts. So on and so forth. It keeps getting harder, and every previous levels are to prepare for your corresponding level. Anyway, My former school only has addmaths and moral project. Other than that, alot people said that form 4 is your honeymoon year. If you take form 4 as "honeymoon year" , you'll definitely be struggling with form 5. Don't be like that. Start studying now. 1 hour per day also helps. But addmaths must keep doing to get you familiar with the questions. |
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It is harder than PMR for sure!
First, you have 10 subjects to cover. Second, form 4 stuffs are going to come out in Form 5 final exam (SPM). Third, are you still thinking about taking tuitions? For all 7-10 subjects? Honeymoon is not possible because what you get in form 5 later on will determine your future! Honeymoon in form 4/5 = becoming a sales man, clerk, or some low level job. My advice is that you take tuitions on critical subjects (If you are weak in BM that will be an obvious choice). Manage time properly! Make a timetable and follow it closely. Examples of proper time management???? If you know tomorrow you have biology class and chemistry as well, then spare some time for your bio and kimia to study on that day. Scientific studies have shown that if you recall what you study within a few hours time you will have better chances of remembering it. If you have Chemistry monthly exam followed by Biology and Physics, then you will need to prepare for Physics first, followed by biology and finally chemistry. This is because chemistry is your first subject so by studying it at later time you will have better chances of remembering. Allocate 3 days for Physics, 4 days for Biology and 4-5 days for chemistry. This is because you still can "go all out" after your biology subject, and since after chemistry you will normally get a day or two for your biology that is why you should put 4 days (Bio has lots of memorization). So Chemistry--->Biology---->Physics (Exam) 3d Physics---->4d Biology----->5d Chemistry------->After chem exam, 2d Biology-------->after biology, "all out" physics (Time managment) In short, what I am trying to tell you is that by using your time really carefully and use tactics like this you will score SPM and get 10 A1. The reward will be a full sponsorship to study oversea (honeymoon!) and fame (extra). This post has been edited by Death*Star: Jun 4 2009, 07:42 PM |
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Jun 4 2009, 07:47 PM
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its not hard man..
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Jun 4 2009, 08:40 PM
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lol. make sure you at least know what the teacher is teaching. play hard. 2 months before end of the year exam, study everyday.
for spm. same for me. play hard kau kau starting of the year. dont bother to study for trials. play first. after trial. immediately start studying until spm. consistent. and i got all As. HAHAHA. it works for me |
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I can't recall any hard time during my form 4 (and even form 5) year. Only the week before SPM was very stresses. The projects won't hurt, just do it in time, especially your moral project and addmath project. If you are lazy to do addmath project, please do not risk it. At least (not recommended) "refer" to your friend's project and change the values and presentation. Keep it up! Secondary school life is very enjoyable~
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Jun 4 2009, 09:23 PM
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for now, relax and play.
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Jun 4 2009, 09:25 PM
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Enjoy your happy study time
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Jun 4 2009, 10:23 PM
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LOL yeah hoh LOL, but ivangile is a genius so nothing one like peanuts nia. For him SPM like counting from 1 to 10 LOL
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QUOTE(Angel01 @ Jun 4 2009, 11:23 PM) LOL yeah hoh LOL, but ivangile is a genius so nothing one like peanuts nia. For him SPM like counting from 1 to 10 LOL is like counting 10-1you can play hard(like what i did 2 years ago) but then never let youself drop out Added on June 5, 2009, 12:34 am QUOTE(Ivangile @ Jun 4 2009, 10:25 PM) yeah100% agree with you This post has been edited by yuktsi14: Jun 5 2009, 12:34 AM |
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Jun 5 2009, 08:08 AM
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whats wrong with counting 1 to 10, why must it be 10 to 1?
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Jun 5 2009, 09:03 AM
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Form 4 isnt hard, u can finish the whole syllabus within one month b4 spm trial (For 11 subjects). That's what I did for my exam.
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basically.. what u shud ask is SPM hard??
form 4 is jus like a continue from what u studies when u were in form 1 to 3.. sciences get specific abit.. thats where u know what ur interested with... its all very basic stuffs.. its not really hard.. u jus have to twist ur brain.. basically.. pay attention and know what u should understand.. understand it.. and u'll be good.. |
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Jun 5 2009, 05:20 PM
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ANY sort of coursework is important in whatever you do. If it doesn't count, then don't spend so much time on it but you still want it to come out as your best.
Form 4 wasn't hard for the four months I spent doing it. I didn't enjoy Biology at all and still don't. I LOVED Add Math and Physics. |
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Jun 5 2009, 06:49 PM
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spunk berry , SAME! LOL!
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Jun 5 2009, 07:41 PM
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same as in you hated Biology and liked Add Math and Physics? lol
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, Form 4 is definitely a big leap from Form 3, but it's manageable. Tonnes of Malaysian students took Form 4, Form 5 & finally SPM, many scored a string of As. If you were doing fine during Form 3 (About Top 15 in first class), you should be fine. I got a shock also when I started my Form 4. Additional maths was puzzling, the tonnes of homework was suffocating, but I turned out fine, and so did many students. Form 4 & 5 science reports are important to boost your scores for the science subjects, so try to do it as well as you can as long as it does not interfere with preparation for exams.I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? |
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IF WHOEVER TELLS YOU ITS A HONEYMOON YEAR DONT LISTEN TO THEM! Its more important than form5 cause its where your foundation starts. Its not hard at all.
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Form 4 is REALLY a honeymoon year. Think about it, all the science and maths subject are very basic. If you can't even handle such simple topics, then you should really rethink about your subject choice. And no the theory that "when your taking SPM you realise that PMR is so easy" is not true because if you say that, you're saying there is no limit, but we all know everyone has their own limits.
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Jun 6 2009, 12:02 AM
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For our case, we literally photocopied the add math project and passed it up, got relatively good grades i think
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You can play hard but at the same time make sure that you keep up with ur studies, it's foundation for ur subjects afterall esp Chemistry.
When you come to form4, you'll realize that PMR is just piece of cake. But actually same for all the major exams lar, when you go to form6 you'll say SPM way easier than STPM. |
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Jun 6 2009, 01:42 AM
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You still can play a lot when u r taking SPM, but u need to focus more when u r in form 6, then after that in university u can even play more.
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QUOTE(ccm123 @ Jun 6 2009, 12:02 AM) For our case, we literally photocopied the add math project and passed it up, got relatively good grades i think Wow..you're a lucky dude. Are you proud of yourself? For mine, me and my groupmates spent almost half a day doing the project. I can still remember the question. It was about the best shape to make a water reservoir. So we used calculus and between a cylinder, hemisphere and cuboid; The cylinder is still the most cost effective. Added on June 6, 2009, 11:04 am QUOTE(ahcheap @ Jun 6 2009, 01:42 AM) You still can play a lot when u r taking SPM, but u need to focus more when u r in form 6, then after that in university u can even play more. It really depends on what course you're taking. I can tell you that taking Electronic Engineering won't give you the time to play around that often. The start of the semester is always very easy-going. Then, as the semester progresses, you find more work piling up. The killer time is the end of the semester when all the projects are thrown at you and you'll have to sit for a final exam at the end. So time management is a must if you'd like to juggle work, play and socialising.This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Jun 6 2009, 11:04 AM |
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Jun 6 2009, 11:25 AM
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Form 4 hard?U must be jokin!Once u r in uni or Form 6,u will see hell.I really mean it.Form 4 is jus like a foundation process for u guys.Take it like this,if u work hard though whole form 4,form 5 u will be a bit relax..if u relax whole form 4..u might hav to do a bit more in form 5.But overall,everything i learned in Form 5 is NOT EVEN applicable in FORM 6..unless u mean those basic mathematics like 1+1 tat i guess it's a bit useful.t.So if u score 10As or bla bla bla..come to form 6 and show me whether u can score 4 flat.Then tat's the time u only talk.Sorry if i said something harsh.I have a junior fren who always come complain to me how hard form 4 is..
So now u get wat i mean?Get the comparative?So now do u think Form 4 is hard? Btw,@dy/dx Ur forum pic..is tat really u?Wow u look gorgeous and somehow i think u look alike Karena Lam This post has been edited by Duckies: Jun 6 2009, 11:26 AM |
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form 4 is like eating kacang only compare to college life and work life. Arghhhhh....
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Dude, in college or university you will have to rely entirely yourself. You are to be asked to critically analyse or critically comment over one liner question and come out with the answer of at least two pages.
Our education system has not taught us in thinking independently so you might struggle next time. It's not that hard la form 4, all you have to do is memorize things and answer the damn questions. All are just textbook answers, but when you come to college or university level then there is no textbook answers for you. |
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 6 2009, 11:25 AM) Form 4 hard?U must be jokin!Once u r in uni or Form 6,u will see hell.I really mean it.Form 4 is jus like a foundation process for u guys.Take it like this,if u work hard though whole form 4,form 5 u will be a bit relax..if u relax whole form 4..u might hav to do a bit more in form 5.But overall,everything i learned in Form 5 is NOT EVEN applicable in FORM 6..unless u mean those basic mathematics like 1+1 tat i guess it's a bit useful.t.So if u score 10As or bla bla bla..come to form 6 and show me whether u can score 4 flat.Then tat's the time u only talk.Sorry if i said something harsh.I have a junior fren who always come complain to me how hard form 4 is.. Dude, I think you're a bit on the emotional side. You're totally flaming him. Well, to be fair, to a Form 4 student, Form 4 would seem difficult. Once you procees to the next level, you'll see Form 4 as easy. My advice to TS is to take one step at a time. Everything seems difficult when you're doing it and your past experiences always seem simpler. Since you're not the first person to reach that level, you'll be fine. It's only difficult when you've reach a level where others have never reached (i.e. within your field), say post-doctoral studies in whatever field you specialise in.So now u get wat i mean?Get the comparative?So now do u think Form 4 is hard? Btw,@dy/dx Ur forum pic..is tat really u?Wow u look gorgeous and somehow i think u look alike Karena Lam This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Jun 6 2009, 02:16 PM |
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Yea..mayb i am a bit emotional.Mayb due to my junior form 4 fren who always complaning how hard form 4 is..kinda pissing me off.We can do it,they can do it and so do u..so my advice is better don whine much,concentrate in ur studies pray with some luck u can score more than 10As..perhaps not (haha no more 11As since they limited the subject taken is only 10 XD)
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 6 2009, 01:44 PM) Yea..mayb i am a bit emotional.Mayb due to my junior form 4 fren who always complaning how hard form 4 is..kinda pissing me off.We can do it,they can do it and so do u..so my advice is better don whine much,concentrate in ur studies pray with some luck u can score more than 10As..perhaps not (haha no more 11As since they limited the subject taken is only 10 XD) And may I ask what is your results for SPM? |
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You are only as good as you decide to be:)
Believe in yourself and just do your best. |
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, it is not that hard as compared to your studies later on, have more confidence in yourself. I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? |
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form 4 ok la... sure got hard part for every level or stage...
at age 16= form 4 hard at age 17= form 5 harder than form4 at age 18-19= form 6 harder than form 5... so you see... things get tougher but that's what we need to endure to develop.. you don't want your brain to stop growing at form 4, do you? |
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i wish i can relive my F4 days.. so much fun.. u still can play and as long u concentrate on ur studies when it matters u'll be able to pull through..
diff scenario for A levels and F6, still can play but must study consistently.. and in uni, well, depends on which course u take lor, that'll judge the level of stress u'll be facing.. |
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Positive Thinking
Here's a thread started by 1 of our forumer.It's a very good thread...might as well helps u to think tat Form 4 is not so hard afterall |
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think positive dude,,,
form 4 is not too hard.. u need to encounter it,, in studying,,dont study last minute,, |
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just do whatever your teacher ask you to.
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Jun 8 2009, 11:51 AM
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Form 4 and Form 5 project is important, but u can copy....
haha WONT stress at all |
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it will be hard when u say it is.
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QUOTE(Trinax @ Jan 6 2009, 11:28 PM) Right now I'm 21 taking degree edi but still haven feel any pressure in my studies. Mayb that's y my results are not too good. Bad sign! Added on June 8, 2009, 10:42 pm QUOTE(iJoel @ Jun 6 2009, 01:20 AM) You can play hard but at the same time make sure that you keep up with ur studies, it's foundation for ur subjects afterall esp Chemistry. The gap between spm and stpm is totally different fromthe pmr compared to spm! When you come to form4, you'll realize that PMR is just piece of cake. But actually same for all the major exams lar, when you go to form6 you'll say SPM way easier than STPM. This post has been edited by MBBS siang: Jun 8 2009, 10:42 PM |
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 6 2009, 11:25 AM) Form 4 hard?U must be jokin!Once u r in uni or Form 6,u will see hell.I really mean it.Form 4 is jus like a foundation process for u guys.Take it like this,if u work hard though whole form 4,form 5 u will be a bit relax..if u relax whole form 4..u might hav to do a bit more in form 5.But overall,everything i learned in Form 5 is NOT EVEN applicable in FORM 6..unless u mean those basic mathematics like 1+1 tat i guess it's a bit useful.t.So if u score 10As or bla bla bla..come to form 6 and show me whether u can score 4 flat.Then tat's the time u only talk.Sorry if i said something harsh.I have a junior fren who always come complain to me how hard form 4 is.. yea was wonderin so... So now u get wat i mean?Get the comparative?So now do u think Form 4 is hard? Btw,@dy/dx Ur forum pic..is tat really u?Wow u look gorgeous and somehow i think u look alike Karena Lam so dy/dx, cn i differentiate(dy/dx) u to get the answer? d/dy(you)=yes, it's me, wat did u wan? is my equation correct? This post has been edited by XxAC3xX: Jun 9 2009, 12:18 AM |
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whenever i heard my juniors saying spm is hard, they really pissed me off....it isnt hard, its very easy(in a sense that u pay attention during your class, and make consistent revision) compared to stpm/university
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understand the concept, then always think about it....by using craps or whatever...do some hard questions, once a week also nevermind, provided you are good at thinking things that are related to physics. Tuition are not much required except for the exercises and as a living reference book IF your school teacher only teaches concepts rather than scoring technique. CHEMISTRY make your chemical equation basic strong. Everything like reactants, products, changes can be obtained through the chemical equation itself, at least for SPM syllabus...This subject also can use understanding to score. Understand every chapter, constant practice, but it's not like everyday 1 hour of practice, I would've gone crazy that way...get yourself a good teacher that you can refer to when you met any difficulties. BIOLOGY I don't have the right to talk about this...I am not good in memorising, for objective question I can answer about 47/50 based on concept and understanding. But for paper 2, I am crapped out, especially the essay part. I know what it is talking about but I just cant list out what I know. So.....try your best, I managed to get an A2 for this.... ADD MATH a hard + easy subject, all you have to do is to think more...DONT do questions just to ease yourself with the exam format, think more...if you only can do it good with exam format, then what about when you are going for form 6? (provided that you like form 6) It's totally different. That's why, what I can say is, understand how the formulas and theorems, then apply in the questions. You should be able to score it easily if you managed to make your brain turn fast. MATH a free A for you. It's much much easier than add math, you understand the concept, don't study for 1 whole year then go for exam also might get you at least an A (dont try this, just joking, there's no such thing as I WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT I HAVE LEARNT)...take it just like how you study your math when you are form 3 and it will give you a free A BC, BM, ENG I don't know how to say.......just try your best into writing good essays....GOOD LUCK (I am not good in essays and languages, only in math and science) MORAL Memorise all the Nilais WORD-BY-WORD. It is a must for the definition. I can't tell you how to score. This is very very tricky....sometimes i get a B3 and sometimes A1, GOOD LUCK SEJARAH Never think that spm sejarah is like PMR sejarah. It's like heaven and hell. SPM sejarah requires you to write it out. It's not like PMR sejarah where you agak-agak know the story is enough, SPM requires you to completely understand about the situation, memorising it alone can cause your brain to explode...especially the Islam part(f4) and Malaysia part(f5). These 2 are important. GOOD LUCK ENGLISH FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY I know some of you don't have to study this anymore, but I'll say a little about it just in case some of you still want to know about it. EST.....an unpredictable subject. Becareful in the Information Transfer part. I can cause you to lose your marks (sometimes you totally get 0) just because you write Protein as protein. See? Capital letters causes all the difference, and I get A1 just because of luck, even my teacher tells me that she don't know when to use capital and when not to use. paper 2 the objective part should be no problem. then.....the essay part....try to write it as scientific as possible, use more scientific term that you EST teacher cannot understand (FYI, they mostly are not science teachers) to amaze them with your scientific knowledge and that's it. That's all I can say, anything wanna ask me, please feel free to pm me...ONLY for physics, chemistry, math, add maths.......although I get 11A for spm, but now I only remember these 4.....cause I am taking form 6 Physics class...these 4 are sufficient for form 6 physics class.....except PA....so.....GOOD LUCK in your form 4 journey!!! |
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nah..
i skip a total of 99 days when i was in form 4 but still got straight A wor haha jk jk! dont worry lah, form 4 sure is easy peasy |
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form 4 is a honeymoon year.. nothing much to do.. just go to schooll and have fun..!!! hooray..
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QUOTE(jusco1 @ Jun 11 2009, 03:50 PM) The real honeymoon year is Form 1. It's so much easier compared to Standard 6 and there's nothing really much to study. Everything's relaxing. Form 1 is still the best year of my life. |
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form 4 is a honeymoon year, but make sure ur addmaths basic good
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 11:22 PM) Hi, Moral folio important i think.. not sure... actually form 4 and 5 isnt that hard if u practice everyday. Unlike PMR, u cant last minute study. U need to study throughout the year because the questions are normally manipulatedI'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? |
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yes u can study last minute...... but now im in stpm not sure leh...
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QUOTE yea was wonderin so... biggrin.gif so dy/dx, cn i differentiate(dy/dx) u to get the answer? tongue.gif d/dy(you)=yes, it's me, wat did u wan? is my equation correct? laugh.gif Lol y wanna differentiate her? Btw,juz chill..Form 4 is quite easy.Even if u r a Form 4 students,don feel bad having to study 10 subjects.Those form 6 with 4 subjects is even worst..our education system makes the studies appropriate to ur level..so no worries. |
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im worried, im in Lower 6 now
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Jun 11 2009, 08:07 PM
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nothing is hard when you concentrate...
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Jun 11 2009, 08:13 PM
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Jun 11 2009, 08:31 PM
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342 posts Joined: Sep 2007 From: kl |
^ jason lim is true.
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Jun 11 2009, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jun 11 2009, 05:23 PM) Lol y wanna differentiate her? c if she's the gal in her sig ma.. Btw,juz chill..Form 4 is quite easy.Even if u r a Form 4 students,don feel bad having to study 10 subjects.Those form 6 with 4 subjects is even worst..our education system makes the studies appropriate to ur level..so no worries. dy/dx, whr r u huh? Added on June 11, 2009, 8:42 pm QUOTE(Angel01 @ Jun 11 2009, 05:28 PM) im worried, im in Lower 6 now as if ure d only 1.... This post has been edited by XxAC3xX: Jun 11 2009, 08:42 PM |
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Jun 11 2009, 09:01 PM
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dude, im asking whether i can do the same for Lower 6.
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Jun 11 2009, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(christopherliewcx @ Jan 6 2009, 10:22 PM) Hi, u're currently in artstream or scistream?I'm form 4 this year.I know that is not a good year for me. Is Form 4 and Form 5 project important? To me is a waste of time doing my Form 3 project cause they dint count on my PMR paper which the teacher said it will but it dint. How about the question?Is it very difficult?Will it bring stress? |
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Jun 11 2009, 10:04 PM
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Jun 11 2009, 10:16 PM
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1,487 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Penang |
huh did i even say my results reflect my intelligence man?
I enrolled into Form 6 because it was the last choice, If you don't know. |
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Jun 11 2009, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(jusco1 @ Jun 11 2009, 03:50 PM) Get the foundation right in form 4, form 5 will be peanuts for you, and a good foundation will help u in higher education. but its not tat hard, just Addmaths you'll prob struggle in the early part, then it'll be fine after a while. I never liked sej and moral, so for me its hard all the way till form 5. Science subjects are ok for me, grasp the concept and apply it. I never took anything as 'dead' in science, so understanding + bit bit of memorizing is how i study bio chem and phys. Addmaths needs practice, once you get the idea on how to do those questions then you'll be saying "oh this ain't that hard =)" (Questions in tests/exam differ just a bit from what you do in exercises, just they twist a bit here and there, so you'll need to twist your brain here and there just to see that it leads back to the same basic concept) all the best. =) btw, i think form 5 is more of a honeymoon year for me instead. xD like I said, if you get the foundations right, form 5 will be easy for you. Vice versa. |
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Jun 17 2009, 12:21 AM
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A1 in SPM doesn't guarantee you a pass in Pre-U course. That's what I can say.
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Jun 17 2009, 09:19 AM
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438 posts Joined: Oct 2008 From: Goblintown |
IMHO, Form 1 is harder compare with Four
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Jun 17 2009, 09:20 AM
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very hard lo..
i think matrics s much more easier compared to sech years.. |
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Jun 17 2009, 09:58 AM
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i think form 4 hard because of addmath...
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Jun 17 2009, 12:14 PM
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1,357 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: ☐ Earth ☐ Sky ☐ Heaven ☑ Hell |
you haven go to engineering course yet.....compare engineering course....form4 is nothing.....
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Jun 17 2009, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(xemse89 @ Jun 17 2009, 12:14 PM) Fully agree.......compared to stpm, form 4 is nothing.......even the number of chapters and toughness......form 4 is nothing compared to form 6 I've studied form 6 for 1 month.....and it includes the 2 weeks of break........my chemistry has finished 3 chapters......imagine what speed of studying are we in.... Besides, in physics, form 4 you have to get the number, get the equation, throw all the number into the equation and you get the answer, but in form 6, NO....positive and negative signs become very very tricky...that goes to math too..... so....my advice.....make your basics as solid as possible....make your brain in such a way that you can do more than 90% of the questions of spm especially in addmath, physics, chemistry, biology unless you are from art stream.... think more than anyone else, and you will score 80++ easily...... I am saying this because an A1 in spm doesnt mean a pass in stpm......you can get A1 in spm just by memorising, but this is not working for stpm.....by the way.....good luck |
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Jun 18 2009, 12:47 AM
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they have their point. its jst a start like a game....things are getting more and more difficult. without basics, u will face a lot of difficulties. Brush up urself and do your best. SPM is easy in a way, find the loophole and exploit it
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