Hi ppl,

I've never OC b4 but am thinking of doing it for my upcoming PC. I'm content with 3.2Ghz so am looking for the best way to get there.

Originally I was pretty set on Q6600 since there r sooo many successful examples around here and I feel safe knowing I can get help when needed but I'm worried about the heat problem. Apart from having a CPU cooler, I don't have any special cooling added. Q8200 seemed like a better option from that point of view. However, I'm given the impression that it's not a good candidate for OCing.

So, I'm left to wonder... If I only want 3.2Ghz (that's not OCing a lot yes?)... will a Q8200 do it easily? Or is that already pushing it's limit? The mobo I'm eyeing on is EP45-UD3L from Gigabyte and I'm only using normal Kingston DDR2 800 rams.

Help? Thanks!

I would suggest getting the Q6600 instead... or the QX6800 OEM (about the same price).

The Q8200 bus is already at 1333MHz FSB, which means its mulitplier is pretty low (its 7.0)... Thus you will need very high FSB to reach 3.2GHz.

This post has been edited by lex: Jan 3 2009, 10:38 PM

but the higher the FSB means better performance rite??

*that is juz my thought... mayb completely wrong... and i guess so...*

Q6600, hands down and if u plan to go further than 3.2, also Q6600.

The lower fsb on the Q6600 makes ocing easier and not so mobo demanding.

Make sure u get a Q6600 Go stepping

But, QX6800 beats it easily

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Added on January 3, 2009, 10:47 pmSlightly faster, but reduced ocing capability and also lower multiplier in this case

This post has been edited by shaun3230: Jan 3 2009, 10:47 PM

Hi,

about your concern, it happen to me recently too. Leaving me wondering whether to buy Quad or Duo. At the same time, price of the processor also is taken into consideration making it more and more difficult to choose a product. I went to tomshardware.com to search for answer as there are many articles on it. Let me summarise what i had read.

When using processor, the below things is taken into consideration.
a) Application that can run multiple core or single core.
b) price of the processor
c) future consideration
d) overclockking

a) multiple core application
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This is very important as it will determine the effectiveness of your processor usage. If you application is only design to run single core and not multiple core, then quo core is not better than duo core with the same clock frequency. Meaning if you have quad core 2.6Ghz and a duo core 2.6Ghz running a non-multiple thread application, there is no different at all. But if you put a multi-thread application into runs, then there will be significant increase of performance at least 15% and above over duo core processor.

Even a E2160 over clock to 3.2 can have the same performance as a quad core 3.2ghz processor if the application doesn't support multi-thread. Believe it or not, but reality is so.

b) Price
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a Quad core on lower speed is definately expensive than a duo core with high speed. This is because quad core include more transistors in it. So the main concern in purchase processor is whether u willing to put more money on lower speed quad core processor and not be able to fully maximize the usage of the processor OR you willing to give up the technology of quad core and go for more practically processor (duo core) which every application can benefit from it 100%. if you check the price, Q6600(2.4) is RM680 but E8400 (3.0) is RM590 at the moment. So you need to be wise on using your money. Until now looks like you are influenced and have more attempt toward duo core....which is cheaper yet can fully utilise and faster too. But wait till you read the next paragraph.

c) Future Consideration
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Even though duo core is faster in many application compare quad core on the same PRICE Product, meaning Q6600 VS E8400, Q6850 VS E8600 (similar price product) BUT this might not be through in the future as more and more application is been written in supporting multi-threading. Don't every compare Quad with duo core for the same clock frequency as quad will always win. What i am taking is similar price product. Okay...going back to future consideration, games, 3D application is starting to using multi-thread technology and begin to utilise the quad core processor. For those application like office and DVD burning that dont use multi-thread , ...by the way we dont care so much....because we dont need such a fast processing for those appplication as it already can run very fast with low end processor such as E2180. So at this point is better to have quad core over duo core now to be ready for next generation application. Believe me with an application supporting multi-thread , Q6600 (2.4) can be faster thab duo core (3.0) with at least 10% different. That is where allyour money pay off.

d) Overclocking
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This is the main part and must not forget topic to be discussed. Quad core has more overlocking power compare to duo core. Why ? at duo core you only have two core to do uppgrade, whereas in quad core you have 4 core to upgrade. You heard "sikit sikit lama lama jadi bukit" theory" This is what happen to 4 core processor. And also if you think current application doesnt support 4 core, but require more clock frequency, then just overclock your quad core processor comparable to duo core processor that your intend to buy. But the risk is you going to void your warranty if any things happen. but no worries, many ppl over clock the processor easily and still not damage the processor. JUst remember ...DON OVER CLOCK it....


Conclusion
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okay dude, i have been talking to long....hope this summary can help others saving hours and hours of time searching for answer.
Thanks.

Nice explanation there dude.

For me, I`ll consider the future, so quad is for me. And just ask urself this, how much difference is 3.8GHz (average max Q6600 oc) vs 4.5GHz (average max E8400 oc)??

In fact any core processor above 3Ghz is considered fast

yeah. quad is definitely the best choice considering the future. many oncoming software will definitely be multi threaded.

vote goes to Q6600 instead Q8200...

*edited

This post has been edited by magna_voxx: Jan 4 2009, 01:16 AM

Q6600 if u re an oc-er...

tried E6600 and E6550 before... they ve the same config (E6600, Q6600 - 266x9, E6550, Q8200 - 333x7)... trust me, E6600 is way much easier to oc...

Q6600 or E8400 all the way,screw Q8200

aiyar how come everyone say screw q8200 wor? just bought 1 but havent assembled yet

well, if u re a normal user, both are roughly the same...

but if u re an oc-er, Q6600 is a better choice...

ok lar, i dont plan to oc also...or shud i sell the proc and get other.

if dun oc never mind la...

juz use as per normal can liao... no point wasting money rit...

i am migrating from p4 2.8 and c2d t5500 to this quad soon any significant faster ar?

Non ocer, Q82000 lo

For oc, Q6600 Go is legend!

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Added on January 4, 2009, 11:40 amt5550? Of cource quad faster

This post has been edited by shaun3230: Jan 4 2009, 11:40 AM

i choose over q6600, coz newer tech and hopefully shud be cooler not sure make rite choice or not. q8200 got sse4.1 and 45nm tech

But it is not better than a q6600. The 8200 will not hv the q6600 prowess in ocing.

But at stock speeds i think the 8200 is a bit faster

ic at stock speed is faster, nvm, after my rig is assembled i will se how:P

i dont think so... e2160 has just 1mb l2 cache while q6600 has 8mb... there will surely be a difference there

q6600 > q8200... nuff said... 3.2ghz on stock vcore with no problemo