pls really interested to buy.any shopkeeper selling?

i want one too..nobody is selling it so far. it might be a useless thing, but more cooling can't be a bad thing

It is actually quite good as far as reviews.Nyko this time have really listen to consumer and fix the previous problems. Pls i hope some shops in KL is selling?

yeah...seems like a good item.
Pls inform if aybody got sell~~

Yeah, I'm looking for something similar too.

I know Tech2 selling some china made intercoolers. maybe if he's willing to mod it to ue external power.....

it is really good product and it has external power. I dnt knw why no 1 is selling. Can ask tech2 to sell?

tech2 takda jual ini barang......sigh~~

Bleh dikatakan take de siape kat MY jual brg nih.

We're bolehland rakyat~! guys~! show sumthin~!

maybe TS or someone can start a bulk?given there's enough interest in this product.

I tried to ask once...but the postage fee is 3 times of the thing itself....

Just brough 2 stupid CPU fan an a cheap IPod charger....Wanna complete it and dangle to my 360 tomorrow

Is Djinn selling?can any1 ask him to sell if he is nt.

I don think he will sell anything that is not proven to work....

Don't you see you already have a way to MAKE MONEY?!

This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 2 2009, 02:06 PM

Pls i hope sum1 sells it.

Since no one selling, i decided to make it my own:-





So far it work well, the air gushed out is warm and the disc is luke warm after 2 hrs of test run.

in case you didn't see it, the side gap is covered with cello tape.

This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 3 2009, 07:36 AM

Great job there ! And you inspired me to do the same... only to fall flat on the... items...

I search high and low for unused fans, and I could only find my old AMD processor fan. Then I tried searching for the power source... and could not find any... Anyways, I was thinking of getting those 'PC modders fan' - you know, the large ones that light up when they work... hmm...


This post has been edited by defaultname365: Jan 10 2009, 02:13 PM

nice work navigator,what's the size of those fans?60mm?are they loud?and what is that white adapter you using to power those fans?

Quite a creative design. But... have you make sure the current and voltage are suitable for the fan?


white adapter looks like phone charger

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jan 10 2009, 03:48 PM

Does this really works...

I'm using fan from Lowyat plaza. RM8 per piece

yeah, they are 60mm. they are louder than standard but TV sound will easily overrun it. That white adapter is RM15 iPod charger.

It's primary function is to calm my pathetic 3RRoD phobia.

The air gush out can be felt by hand, the vent at the back no longer warm and the hot spot (There's a marking already on the hot spot) is no longer hot. It works for heat dissipation, I dunno if it works for 3RRoD.

Behold, The Defaultko Intercooler with Manual Temperature Control !
Purpose: Reduces 'hardware failure phobia'

Step 1


Step 2


Step 3


Step 4


Step 5


Temp control...


Finished product


... I don't think buying the Intercooler TS is worth it. Dun even know if it really reduces hardware failure rate or not... but oh well, I did this and I'm glad.

This post has been edited by defaultname365: Jan 11 2009, 09:35 AM

cool mod there,how many hours of gaming u can tahan,i fitted a similar fan like ur's but super duper fast n noisy,still my 360 3rod very frustrated,the 360 lacks air circulation meaning incoming air.

point a torch light behind the xbox to see the 2 default standard fans

they are PATHETIC

MS & IBM should put a fan on the heatsink

and SPEED UP THE RPM of the 2 default fans

its abysmal... my manual hand can turn faster than that

wow,another great mod..nice idea with the variable output adapter.did you drill holes on the left panel(the side fan)of your 360?and what's the total cost?

This post has been edited by mddl_fngz: Jan 12 2009, 03:06 AM

One BIG tips for you.

The 3rd fan beside the console should be located at the vent holes infront of the HDD enclosure. after measuring the wind speed by using a small cloth, the vent has the strongest wind entrance.

Blowing that sopt directly and the air will not even reach the heat point.....

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Added on January 12, 2009, 2:55 pmYou see, before the dreaded 3RRoD strike my 1st console, it never even crash a single time.....

This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 12 2009, 02:59 PM

OMG I will never do that. Even bringing a scissors close to my beloved console, my heart races... total cost = RM 4 (plastic connector), AC-DC adaptor (RM20), Notebook cooler (RM25) = RM49. It was my little project. I had time over the weekend and decided to do it.

Hmm.... 'touching' the top of the hard disk enclosure, I dun feel any heat, and you say the air enters here ? Nevermine... putting a fan there would just make it super ugly...

I put it by the left-side coz that is where the area gets really warm (GPU area).

Lol... the air from the cooler is is not 'directly hitting it', it is blowing outwards (like the back of the console unit fans)... when the air blows that way, the temp where there is warmth becomes less warm = air leaving an area (where heat builds up) -> area cools down quicker. The warmth keeps coming in this case from the GPU.

It might not be effective, but at least I know, the heat there is being vented 'away', not blown away... that is as far as I and my brain can go.

This post has been edited by defaultname365: Jan 12 2009, 11:49 PM

You only cool the external shell and not the board itself.....I wonder the heat variance will cause faster 3RRoD problem if the heat variance internal & external too high...

Yes, most of the cool air entered through that part. It might be super ugly but if it helps...who care????

and Tech2 told us that Jasper set still have 10~15% 3RRoD cases in short period of time.

why dont directly use usb power from the xbox itself?

No,

I do not want to use ANY power from the system.

The more you take power from the console, the havier the load for the fragile little power brick that is one of the reason for 3RRoD.

which part would that be ?

Not in a million years I would waste my time again 'tweaking the design' I don't even know would work. Adding the fan at the top will not automatically get rid of RRoD. I understand the so-called 'air flow' but who cares. Yes, who cares. Unless someone comes over and does it for me, fine.

Not too sure why I should be concerned at all.... I'm not... I just did it in my free time.



This post has been edited by defaultname365: Jan 13 2009, 03:16 PM

you din follow the thread properly....i mean the vent infront of HDD enclosure

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This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 13 2009, 11:41 PM

i read that part however after looking at my xbox properly, the small holes there wouldnt even get much air ventilation for my xbox ..

the design is so flawed that a company billionaire like MS cant even fix, what do u think u can do ? =.=

better u guys buy and use the evercool xfan

evercool xfan is a toy... the airflow is not even strong enough compared to DIY fan.

You all can do a radical mod for this--Internal watercooler and someone in xboxexpert.com did it. Look at the customised waterjacket~!

http://www.thexboxexpert.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32

Alternatively, google search link
http://www.google.com/search?q=xboxexpert+...al+watercooling

This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 14 2009, 04:09 PM

Just to let you guys know that I went to GH in Cineleisure to buy SFIV and I saw like six these Nyko intercooler at the counter, not sure if it's just arrived or ready for sale yet. I'm not interested in this product so didn't bother to ask, you guys who are interested might want to call GH an enquire them about this.

yup, just arrived with the others stuff . is ready to sell if you want them just ask

GOOD~! I'll go & have a look for it.

RM140 for this ! My own DIY fan cost way less... albeit amateur in design (duh..).

Not too sure about it...



This post has been edited by defaultname365: Feb 22 2009, 03:21 PM

It costs RM140?

wah~! btw....how strong is the air flow?

RM140 I can get a game already....

i tot wanna get it @ RM70 or less...

however, this is Intercooler TS or EX?

My urge & adranaline rush to get one is over....

bacause I've known the ultimate root cause of 3RRoD which is related to heat but it has no way to cure except re-engineer the GPU chip.

Anyone who want to know what happened to our GPU may search google for nVidia G70 GPU failure. The problem is the same scenario to our xbox360 GPU failure.... nVidia repeated the failure that happened since year 2005 to M$.

Someone told me that a batch of PS3 Malaysia /w 65nm chips somehow suffer the similar problem by a symptom of "failed to start after certain time interval", anyone to clarify this?

This post has been edited by navigator: Feb 23 2009, 02:26 PM

HOW MUCH IS THE INTERCOOLER TS???
REALLY WANT IT!

... RM 140 !

Its freakin' expensive... and don't know whether effective or not...

Crap that is more then 2 times the price on Amazon!

... I actually pondered the idea of ordering one from Amazon... but I don't know, all the trouble for something that may not work...

I tried that and they refused to ship to Malai-Siah

This intercooler?

yup...but any1 tried the jasper compatible 1?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/775275/+2160
post #2176
from a chat with an overseas modder. he said Nyko intercooler is not very effective.
keep an update, i hope i have enough money to finish this mod fast.

i've heard that Nyco Intercooler kills the console, something about the intercooler steals some power from the console hence making some part of the motherboard's unit don't receive enough power..

is this true?

That's the earlier version, this newer one comes with its own power adapter I heard.

i see...

so, basically, don't use an intercooler that shares the same power adapter as the consoles, am I right?

I'm using one right now, though I dunno what's the brand of the intercooler, maybe it's 'cap ayam' or something like that..

can someone advice whether to keep on using the intercooler or just take if off?

wow...nice mod there...

According to Amazon, the reviews are quite good.90% say is really effective. After all it comes with its own power. SO no need to worry of intercooler sucking out power from 360

dunno true or not..

no, the one selling in GH is Intercooler TS, compatible to all xbo360 as it's using independant power source.

woahh... for real? anyone can clarify about this?

oh, one more thing, is there any electrical/electronics wizard out there who can really explain on how does a fan sharing the same power with the console can damage the console? The explanations that I've received thus far are all assumptions..

Maybe the console is kinda faulty from the beginning and M$ is just using that intercooler as a scape-goat for such issue, right? (of course, this is also just an assumption)

This is real on a "controlled environment", not in you house....so the result might be different, just like you'll never get the quoted fuel consumption on your car if you drive to work in rush hour everyday.

Fan sharing the same power itself will not damage the console. The thing that damaged the console on the old Intercooler EX is the inferior quality of the connector. causing the connector to be melted onto the console & damage the console's one & only only power interface not to mention your console scream for more juice by showing 3RRoD when the power is not stable due to intercooler's problem.

But do remind that intercooler sold in GH is the one using external power. The Intercooler TS.

Example of the damage of old intercooler is like this :-



If you're microsoft engineer, will you approve RMA for this thing? My guess is a good no.

Please do you further research on Google and also Wikipedia.

This post has been edited by navigator: Feb 27 2009, 10:14 PM

Heh, if you're smart enough, you should just keep quiet about using the 3rd party cooler when doing RMA.

I used to work in technical support, sometimes customer call saying their product doesn't work due to thunderstorm, I said nope, warranty not valid for that kind of incident.
On the other hand if they keep quiet about the thunderstorm incident, I'll just process RMA for them.

u work for microsoft?

...I tot anyone know that...

But how'd you explain the scorching on the power socket?

yeah, i've done some readings on various sites, most of 'em told me about what you are telling me, which I agree...

but what I'm wondering is that is it true that the fan would "steal" some power from the source, hence making the console's motherboard lack the power to start it?

The reason for 3RRoD & unable to start is unstable current output after the power is passed on from that intercooler.

guys, i just bought myself a Intercooler TS yesterday. Being waiting for this thing for quite a while, it's expensive, but i kinda like it. Here's my findings so far :

Pros:
- It's a quality product..the materials and packaging used are of quality...and the Intercooler fits perfectly
- Powerful fan..it moves lots of air, there's no doubt about it. My whole room smells of the innards of the Xbox
- Nice design, in my opinion

Cons:
- Tempsmart is a gimmick..it only have 2 speeds, which are OFF and ON LOUD! I was hoping for a auto variable speed thingy.
- It's expensive (in Malaysia) . I guess it's a non-issue for the US
- It's LOUD (but that is expected)

So far i'm quite happy with it

how much does it cost ya, dude?

RM 140?

yupe bro

ehe.. ehehe.. eheheheheh....

tunggu harga kuranglah baru aku beli

got temperature display?

This post has been edited by wilsonjay: Mar 1 2009, 05:33 PM

temperature display? you meant the temperature of the xbox itself? no..but it does feel cooler. Had tested it this afternoon in my room, without switching on the aircon..it does feel cooler.

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Added on March 1, 2009, 5:49 pm yeah it is expensive... but i tend to look at it as the "ultimate" xbox cooler...so at least i tried my best to keep the damn thing happy

This post has been edited by Alphawolf: Mar 1 2009, 05:49 PM

heheeh.. we all should try and make the console cool and happy

No unfortunately

So how cool is it? like when you touch at the bottom of the xbox 360 do you still can feel the heat or room temp?

ok, let's say my room (ambient) temperature is pretty warm, with no air-con on, then the xbox's left side (if it's vertical) would be very slightly warm to the touch. It does feel SLIGHTLY cooler than without the Intercooler.
The question remains whether it is really effective in the long run, if you can stand the noise it generates RM140 is still kinda expensive for what amounts to a set of fans But since i've being waiting for this for a long time, i don't really mind buying it

ok thats great! when will it start to spin the fan?and will it continue until you finish your gaming time? or will it stop once in a while?

it will start around 3 minutes after i turned on the Xbox (it depends on your ambient temperature)...then it would stop a few minutes after i switched it off. I heard from some people on the net that it continues to spin 10+ minutes after the Xbox had being switched off! but it, again, depends on a lot of factors

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Added on March 2, 2009, 5:19 pmoh yeah, forgot to answer one of your queries. yes, in my case it will continue to run during the gaming session, at the same full speed, hence the noise. i guess if your room is really cold it will shut down once the temperature in the xbox equalizes with the ambient temperature, but it never happened to me so far

This post has been edited by Alphawolf: Mar 2 2009, 05:19 PM

I might get it, but I am so unsure about how effective it is or just continue using my own custom fans...

How loud is loud ? Is it loud as to "need to increase sound volume of TV?"

For me it's loud, because it's very close to me, beside my pc. My LCD is being shared by my PC and Xbox. But when i am playing games i would not have noticed the noise. However, if you put it somewhere far in the living room or in a cabinet, it shouldn't be much of a bother. But during the quieter moments the noise would be noticed.

do you guys hink its necessary to get the ts for a jasper unit? cause i'm contemplating getting one

bro, it's me , "Dom", from last night
In my opinion, you should save your money..Jaspers SHOULD be fine..and I'm not even 100% sure if the TS would help my Falcon console in the long run..

hey bro..yeah i realized it was you haha..was actually thinking bout it before you mentioned as my xenon died after3 months..so you know there's still the issue of paranoia haha..so you think i should give it a pass?? or should i just get one to be save?

Oh and we still for co-op tonight right?

This post has been edited by LaminatedButterfly: Mar 2 2009, 06:02 PM

Yes, exactly, i'm paranoid too...but since we now have original sets, at least we can claim warranty in SGP..albeit with some difficulty.
It's really up to you man on whether to buy it or not ..it does cool down the thing, but of course it's noisy and expensive. If there's a paranoia "itch" that just had to be scratched, then by all means buy it

yeah, tonight at 11pm right? i can't play for too long, but am happy for a few rounds of adventures. see you back at Sera

well,i am using jasper and using this intercooler ts.(bought from GH,can get little discount maybe coz my brother bought 2)well,this cooling fan really make the differences.it really does cool my 360.u can feel it if u touch the 360 casing.i pair this cooler with my stand n cooling 360.long ago i read an article from internet that said if u can keep an idle temp for ur notebook about 70 deg,it can tahan until 2 years,if the idle temp is 65 deg,it can tahan up to 5 years...i think the same goes through this 360.(correct me if i am wrong).so thats why i use 2 cooler even i am using jasper.i am really hope this 360 can live 7year + like my ps2 that still running strong until today(never have any problem).

Another Great Impression on intercooler!

yup..same goes for my jasper..feels alot cooler and definitely eases up the paranoia after having a 360 dying on me before (gaming is now a semi-care free expericence haha)

Speaking of coolers - I'm letting go my Nyko Intercooler EX for RM60. It's the improved version over the original, with metal power port instead of plastic (http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=71). Was used it for approx 2 months or so, PM me if interested. Thanks.

doesn't work for jaspers tho

This post has been edited by LaminatedButterfly: Mar 15 2009, 03:43 AM

I'm also Have One. Here, I share it to you.



Same shop as you guys said. Plus this is my JASPER-made 360 bcoz my OLD PRO traded in bcoz it has dreaded RROD since november.

My thought about this cooler:-

When I turn off my 360, the fan is still running until 15 sec later, It offs by it self. wow.....

This post has been edited by Jeff2009: Mar 15 2009, 01:15 PM

great stuff, great stuff, cant wait to get my hands on it!

after almost 2 weeks with the Intercooler TS...i got used to the noise. So far i'm happy with it

yup..the noise is a none issue especially at the volume level we play out games

I don't really mind about the noise of the fan. But to keep 360 cool is truly important.

This post has been edited by Jeff2009: Mar 16 2009, 12:54 AM

Ya, cool>noise

i guess the noise is not as bad as REZA's FAN MOD.. mine like jet plane sound.. haha

well some ppl like the sound of jets eh? haha

how much nyko intercooler ts???maybe dah turun harga ke???..anyone know..

i just purchased mine about 3 weeks ago and it was RM135

is there any review measure the internal temperature with n without Intercooler TS.