Thinking that a video game like this contains propaganda content puts you in the same page as PETA boycotting W@W for killing digital dogs and the German government putting blame on CS just because a psycho kid who plays it go beserk and started shooting other people in school, imo.

From one of the campaign in MW2:
"Because what happens over here, matters over there. We don't get to sit one out"
"Learning to use the tools of modern warfare is the difference between the prospering of your people, and utter destruction"
"We can't give you freedom. But we can give you the know how to acquire it."
"History is written by the victors"

Seriously, do you think anyone would even buy into this kind of nonsense?

If this is a propaganda, it obviously failed.

And if you like to think of it that way, oh yes, I am an ignorant muppet who eats imperialist propaganda for breakfast. We shall bow down to Dear Leader for his deity guidance. PEACE THROUGH POWER! HAIL KANE!

this game mimics and repeats a lot of the untruths fed to the public.

Not really. That statement I made was addressed specifically to Luftwacko, and in general to whomever it would apply.

If it does not apply to you, then it doesn't.

But that does not take away the fact that a lot of people are indeed blind to a lot of things for the sole reason that they have chosen to be so. This is not a personal attack. It is merely an assertion of the psychological root of opposition to something as basic as the obvious propaganda inherent in MW2.

Okay, as for my "pro piracy plea", I shall go back into that thread and edit it out. I was unaware of the rules regarding the matter.

You can indeed banhammer me or whatever, or you can instead take the high road and debate or respectfully disagree in a more mature manner.

Because sadly right now all I see are emotional responses to some mere controversial statements I've made. Only Cheesinium has done otherwise and argued in a non-reactive, non-hyperbolic manner.

And also, this is not a crusade. I made a statement and I stand by it in the face of weak attempts to discredit and ridicule it. I don't think I would be doing it justice if I just gave up at the first sign of opposition.

However I don't really have a stake in the argument, meaning I don't really care, so if you think that it's too much do please tell me and I can desist at any time.

But I hope that instead, people are allowed to meaningfully disagree in here.

When you make a highly generalized statement with no quantifiers, its safe to assume that you really do mean everybody that is even remotely related. (Plus you were quoting me when you were in fact directing that remark at someone else)

I admit my response was a bit rash and untoward (And that bit with me flailing the banhammer in front of you was uncalled for and I apologize for that), but I still do feel offended that you would make such an assumption of one's character simply because they wish to enjoy a game on their own terms.

And perhaps people wouldn't be so outraged by your argument if you bothered to respond to ppl's remarks instead of dismissing them wholly (Which you were doing in the beginning).

But you still are teetering on forcing your opinions on others with your rather heavy handed way of stating your opinions which isn't a very healthy way to debate. Give your opinions in a detached manner, offer supporting points and allow others to either agree or disagree based on what you have given. There's no need to actively say they're wrong for disagreeing with you or call them ignorant.

For the points you have given regarding the nuclear event, I suppose they have some merit, but to me, they're too far out there for me to take seriously.

Thanks for the feedback. I shall reflect on it.

Nice to see that you are a very reasonable person and I apologize again for my outburst and hope that didn't mar your view of everyone this side of LYN.

Anyway, back to our regular programming.

IW SUX
NO DEDICATED SERVERS FTL
KOTICK WANTS MOAR $$$
RM 219 FAIL

"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Breaks GameStop Pre-Order Record - Pre-orders for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 are 'the highest for any title we've ever sold in our 6,200 store network"...

Although so many critics, no dedi & pricey etc but then gamers still want this game..

They never had the luxury of dedi servers, have they?

I think so. But why gamers still want to buy it? It show people don't care about dedi servers & price as long it's a good game.