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The Suiting Thread V1, Suit/Tuxedo/Sportcoat/Blazer
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netmatrix
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Jan 19 2009, 08:07 PM
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Hi i'm new here. But i probably share the interest in suits like you guys. That Lords suit looks great and the fabric has that shark skin look to it. RM1700 is actually ok for bespoke. You would spend the same amount for off the rack at Zara and Marks & Spencer. But i wonder why you choose Lords Tailor? Why not Spark Manshop or Wardrobe?
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netmatrix
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Jan 19 2009, 10:12 PM
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I see. what about the new kid Wardrobe? There is a store in KLCC inside Isetan. Also there are a lot of Spark Manshop in KL, which one did he go to?
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netmatrix
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Jan 20 2009, 04:53 PM
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From your desciption u are heading to a 4 season country. I suggest you have 2 wool suits and 2 wool & polyester or some mix fabric suits. The wool you could use when its cold and the mix you could use during early summer & autumm. If you are getting it tailored here, should be at least RM600 for a beginners suit. But if you are starting out, suggest you get off the rack overseas because it will be cheaper. Need to ask the locals for the best place though.
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netmatrix
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Jan 20 2009, 05:55 PM
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Anyway if you are going to Korea, i can say modern suit heaven. Just look at what their TV series stars wear! Should be able to buy a cheap and good suit there. In US it has to be Walmart. In UK the better off the rack is Marks and Spencer.
This post has been edited by netmatrix: Jan 20 2009, 05:56 PM
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netmatrix
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Jan 23 2009, 08:37 PM
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RM700-800 is hard buy. Unless you wanna go Vincent in Amcorp mall which advertises theirs from RM650 above. Off the race with good quality? I can only think of Marks & Spencer. But then again their prices start at RM499 just for coat alone. Matching pants start at RM199 depends on suiting material. I think you will hit RM1000 for the stuff you like at M&S.
Zara is ok. But their stuff is cutting edge. Meaning the designs and cut are modern. Price rivals M&S. Another place i could recommend is Massimo Dutti. But much higher than M&S and Zara. Unless you are slim like a stick then avoid Topman. hahaha.
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netmatrix
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Jan 27 2009, 01:52 AM
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The guys at Sg Wang seems to be more keen on doing custom wacky suits. They will make almost anything! Look at their store displays, its all those video game character suit styles. Large cuffs, frilly collars and bibs, corset cut, blah blah. Its interesting to know they can make such things. But sometimes i hate their fabric choice. Very girly.
I went to KLCC yesterday and saw thhat promo. I was tempted to buy the Autograph suit jacket. But the sizes left are 48 & 52. Pants are 32-36. Still will spend less than RM500 for a complete suit there. But no go for me. heh.
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netmatrix
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Jan 31 2009, 10:08 PM
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Depends on their cut i'm either a 44R or 46R. Yes i'm big! I cannot make use of their Italian Slim cut suits, neither is their trousers. Maybe if i can trim down a little i could fit in a Size 42R.
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netmatrix
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Feb 4 2009, 12:16 AM
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No you can't find this at Topman at the moment. It varies season to season. But i think you could check out the high end row of shops in KLCC. The last shop which has a lot of brands in it maybe has one.
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netmatrix
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Feb 4 2009, 03:36 PM
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Zara also maybe have. If i'm not mistaken last year i saw one like that. But it was either in leather or nylon/ polyester. Priced at RM499 if i'm not mistaken. But that was 2 seasons ago! Good luck.
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netmatrix
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Feb 6 2009, 03:47 PM
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Details are only noticable to a select few. First thing that slams right in your face for a suit is the fabric. Jind86's silvery grey fabric is a good example.
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netmatrix
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Feb 6 2009, 08:14 PM
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Read the article and found some interesting things. Firstly cheap labour & quantity. This determines the final price.... cheap. So slap on a designer label and you're set. hahaha.
Polyester, this material you can't do without. It is mixed with a bunch of other materials like cotton, rayon, linen, wool, blah blah to make lining or outer shell. Just mix it with polyester cut 50% off the fabric price. hahaha.
In the end, the author is very good to pick out a suit that fits. Even if its 100 bucks of our money. You can get a 100 buck coat on sale at Carrefour and Mydin. Polyester number that is. The matching pants will set you back slightly above 50. And it sells darn well i tell ya.
My cheapest coat i have is a RM7 from TESCO. hahaha. I got 2 of them. In fact i should get them all and dissect it for fun. But that was 2 years ago.
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netmatrix
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Feb 6 2009, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE silvery grey? eik.. its actually a charcoal grey.. Well i would not blame you, i blame the camera. QUOTE RM7 coat from TESCO? I didn't know that the price of new OTR coats can go that low 2 years ago. Maybe the extra 0 is missing? Heck, if they're that cheap, I'd get a bunch of them and pair them with jeans and T-shirt / Polo everyday until they all get worn out without me feeling any heartache If i show it to you then you will know why. Its wine red, polyester shell, angled slashed pockets and quarter polyester back lining. Very light weight. They we trying to get rid of it at RM15 back then. They still can't get rid of it, so left about 9 pieces then they put it on the clearance rack. I got 2 at RM7 hahaha. Should have gotten more so i could practice my tailoring skills at them. This post has been edited by netmatrix: Feb 6 2009, 08:35 PM
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netmatrix
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Feb 7 2009, 01:01 AM
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Well initially i had a few plans on what to do with them. Its kind of cool in a Miami Vice kind of way. They don't fit me though. hahaha. But at RM14 bucks i don't mind.
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netmatrix
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Feb 7 2009, 08:53 PM
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Color is different in every persons eyes. Thousands of shades of grey and there is never a correct shade to call charcoal grey. If i called yours sharkskin, i might be correct too.
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netmatrix
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Feb 8 2009, 08:37 PM
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Maybe a little miscommunication on my side. Sharkskin is more of effect of the fabric. I do not know of fabric type called sharkskin. I wonder what you call those fabric that changes color? Chameleon or 2 tone? RAOUL did sell those color changing shirts 2 years ago. But i haven't seen in real life a suit made of such changing color fabric, but only in variety shows.
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netmatrix
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Feb 10 2009, 07:08 PM
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Rich black velvet coat. The nice one i saw was by M&S last year. Retailing RM799. Patiently waited for offer price, but it was took off the racks. Haiyaaa.....
Fusion, i cannot tell la. I mean if you had a white dress shirt on, maybe its easier to tell. The black shirt might actually make the jacket sleeve look shorter. But this is a modern suit, and coat sleeves that cover the shirt sleeves seem like acceptable nowdays.
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netmatrix
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Feb 11 2009, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE QUOTE(yetieater @ Feb 10 2009, 11:52AM)
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I don't know which one to keep! Did you ask them for hanger or a suit bag? If not, i would throw both out. hahahaha. No just kidding. Good stuff perhaps. QUOTE Added on February 10, 2009, 8:52 pm@netmatrix: It is such a waste that M&S decided to take their velvet blazers off the rack but we cannot blame them since it is hard to find a proper market for velvet blazers. Malaysians would think twice about rocking a velvet jacket out in the evening while most Britons still find it perfectly acceptable to be worn during the day. Upon examining those local event launch parties pictures in magazines, only very few guests wears them. Well i just wanted one for no reason. hahaha. Anyway i know velvet is hard to keep. You can't just stash it with other clothes. Its high maintenance stuff. It does not crease, but it will leave pressed marks. I think thats what makes it special. The M&S one is heavy and definitely autumm/fall stuff and the color was black as the darkest coal. The bright red lining is of heavy weave. Darn..... This post has been edited by netmatrix: Feb 11 2009, 12:51 AM
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netmatrix
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Feb 18 2009, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE lol i typed wrongly.forgot to put distinguish/differentiate.owh can you like give me the link to show the cutting between those two jackets or something?if you dont have it dont bother Look here for a little insight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suit_(clothing)But if you ask me, it varies from designer to designer. Have you seen Edmunser's suits before? They are located in KLCC. Edmunser is good at making womens professional suits. The reason why i talk about this shop is because Edmunser seems to be the strange cohesion of womens and mens suit. Their mens suit looks like a womens suit simply because of the fabric. They don't use a lot of hard self standing fabrics. most of them are soft, which works in womens suits. Besides the obvious trimming of the waist, womens suits usually have only 1 button closure and different fancy buttons style. They may not necessarily be short. The lower coat usually is flared to accomodate bigger hips or sexier curves! The panneling for the coats are different. Usually a single panel on the back as to a 2 piece for mens. The back collar lapels are usually not stiffened with felt like material. The coat themselves are not basted so they are flexible in the chest area. I should know, as i have took apart a few womens suit owned by my relatives compared to a 1970's suit jacket that was heading to the trash can last time.
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netmatrix
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Feb 19 2009, 12:13 AM
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Jin86, why is your outer breast pocket on the right? When normal ones are on the left? Is that part of the design?
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netmatrix
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Feb 19 2009, 12:59 PM
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Jind86, the jacket looks odd. For a pin stripe i think the patch pockets should run vertically instead of horizontally. Whats more, the hard corners of the pockets makes it look like an after thought. IMHO should be rounded at the bottom. If you ask me, the design looks much like a seersucker suit. Soft shoulders, patch pockets and slightly lesser bodied.
This post has been edited by netmatrix: Feb 19 2009, 01:00 PM
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