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 The Suiting Thread V1, Suit/Tuxedo/Sportcoat/Blazer

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post Mar 4 2009, 10:29 AM


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It is somewhat impossible to even try mixing and matching attires such as that although I've seen pictures of young English chaps pairing them with jeans and white tees XD Actually they primarily in black (a public mourning colour for Prince Albert' passing back then) and occasionally grey with grey striped trousers. Ah, the fedoralounge. I used to browse that forum although like you said, they're more into early 20th century styles- Edwardian, vintage and all.

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When I was on duty in Parliament recently (actually, it was the day Karpal Singh was confronted by the UMNO Youths), the souvenir shop had this business suit on sale for RM299. I thought it was of pretty decent quality, several colors was offered, including one blue-pinstripe design. I forgot the name of the tailor. for RM299, it was a bargain. for me who definitely need more than one suit, it was a steal. Now, I just need to get past the so-called tight Parliament security to buy it. rclxms.gif
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The price seems fine. No BN logo attached to it, right? jk tongue.gif

Anyway, do post up some pics of it if possible. wink.gif
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post Mar 4 2009, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Fusion eX @ Mar 4 2009, 01:04 PM)
The price seems fine. No BN logo attached to it, right? jk tongue.gif

Anyway, do post up some pics of it if possible. wink.gif
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No la. tongue.gif

Will post photos once I've bought it. I think if I drive the official dept car I won't get stopped. Anyways, the tailor said that the material is microfiber.
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Thanks, tenno. I am really curious about the brand and cutting of the suits they stock there.
Heh. With those three layers of security checkpoints there it can really be hassle.
The material used can be easily guessed from the price since most other suits of the same material are priced slightly higher than the BN suit. Suits that are similarly priced or lower that I can think of are those from Suave, Kamdar and Reject Shop.
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post Mar 4 2009, 05:14 PM

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Most of the RM100-200 suits are polyester. Kamdar, Mydin, Carrefour, Reject Shop, Some RM199 ready made in many tailoring shops.

I suspect the shop was set in there so the people who didn't wear appropriate clothes to be in Parliment can get it straight away there. Suit from a souvenir shop? Thats a first. hahah.
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Mar 4 2009, 01:22 AM)
Any good tailors for alteration? Because i went to Hugo boss today and it cost me rm 80 but i was quite desperate so i had no choice

i have other shirts to alter i live around bangsar, so klang valley and kl is most welcomed! thank you!
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there's actually one in BSC, old wing lower ground floor (opposite FOS), but their workmanship isnt that great.. yeah as i have mentioned, goto Ruth's in KLCC..
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QUOTE(FusioneX @ Mar 3 2009, 11:20 PM)
Allow me to continue: "...which can sometimes be inaccurate."  smile.gif
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exactly, i was in Zara sometime back and i approached the sales guy and im like "i heard you guys do alterations, i'd like to meet the tailor", and he's like "there's no tailor here, we are trained to help you with your alterations.."

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i mean like are they serious? the sales person may know how to dress well, but when it comes to the technical aspects of a suit, im pretty sure their knowledge is quite limited.. if they are that knowledgeable, they would not be sales people, they would be working as a tailor.. just because i know how to enjoy good food does not mean i'm a good cook.. in fact most tailors spend years as an apprentice under their master before even acknowledging that they are a tailor..

i hope someone from Zara reads this.. you guys need to start stepping up a notch and hire ACTUAL tailors.. we don't kid around with our suits !!

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Hello people,

A childhood friend of mine has a tailor for a dad.
Because we are acquainted and stuff, He quoted me a price of RM600 and said he wont be making a profit.
Its gonna be a slim fit suit solid black suit.
I think its not 100% wool though.

Am i getting a good deal?
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QUOTE(jind86 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:29 PM)
exactly, i was in Zara sometime back and i approached the sales guy and im like "i heard you guys do alterations, i'd like to meet the tailor", and he's like "there's no tailor here, we are trained to help you with your alterations.."

shakehead.gif

i mean like are they serious? the sales person may know how to dress well, but when it comes to the technical aspects of a suit, im pretty sure their knowledge is quite limited.. if they are that knowledgeable, they would not be sales people, they would be working as a tailor.. just because i know how to enjoy good food does not mean i'm a good cook.. in fact most tailors spend years as an apprentice under their master before even acknowledging that they are a tailor..

i hope someone from Zara reads this.. you guys need to start stepping up a notch and hire ACTUAL tailors.. we don't kid around with our suits !!
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lol, buying a suit from Zara? Are you kidding me? Zara has the quickest turnover of products (2 weeks if I'm not mistaken, which is pretty fancy). It certainly isn't a place to find something fitted.


Added on March 5, 2009, 5:26 am
QUOTE(luenywoon @ Mar 5 2009, 02:12 AM)
Hello people,

A childhood friend of mine has a tailor for a dad.
Because we are acquainted and stuff, He quoted me a price of RM600 and said he wont be making a profit.
Its gonna be a slim fit suit solid black suit.
I think its not 100% wool though.

Am i getting a good deal?
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It depends on the material. My suit was from Emmanuel Ungaro cloth Super 120 wool. The price is double what you quoted and it's measured to the milimetre.


Added on March 5, 2009, 5:29 amHere's another picture of my suit for jind86. This was taken back in Summer when my fit was better (i.e. I'm bigger now around the shoulders so the current fit is a bit uncomfortable)

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Excuse the douchey smile

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post Mar 5 2009, 09:21 AM

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i am skinny, so cant get any suit from the rack easily. Any recommendation:

1. get one that most fitted and alter
2. get a tailor

how much it will cost me for most of the brands?

by the way, where can i learn these suit stuff ...

what is blazer? can i just get a blazer or something? look at those mat salleh, they are quite nice with jacket or whatever you call on them .. are those suit / blazer / jacket ...

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i am skinny, so cant get any suit from the rack easily. Any recommendation:

1. get one that most fitted and alter
2. get a tailor

how much it will cost me for most of the brands?

by the way, where can i learn these suit stuff ...

what is blazer? can i just get a blazer or something? look at those mat salleh, they are quite nice with jacket or whatever you call on them .. are those suit / blazer / jacket ...


1. You are in luck. Most brands like Topman, Zara would cater to your need. But for skinny/slim the better bet is Topman. Those cost slightly less than RM1000. If on tighter budget, you could opt for G2000, Padini or SEED. RM800-900 would get you a suit. Sometimes G200 offer free pants with a coat. So you pay about RM599 for one.

2. Its a trial and error. A good tailor for one doesn't mean he/she would be good for another customer. For it all boils down to how he/she is trained. And what suit styles the tailor like to make.

Learn? How much do you want to learn? If you want to learn about suitmaking, a fashion school would be the first place to start. If you want to learn generally about suits, here is a good place to start. Just ask questions and probably you get your answers. Else you need to surf the net and search for what you need to know about suits.

A blazer is just a coat and not a part of a suit. Most blazers come with gold or silver button. Which is from the old ways. Pants and coat are of different color. Usually dark blue for blazer. But most of the non matching coats are called jackets nowdays. Diffrent country different definition. And in fact there is no clear line between suit jacket, coat, blazer or jacket.
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QUOTE(luenywoon @ Mar 5 2009, 02:12 AM)
Hello people,

A childhood friend of mine has a tailor for a dad.
Because we are acquainted and stuff, He quoted me a price of RM600 and said he wont be making a profit.
Its gonna be a slim fit suit solid black suit.
I think its not 100% wool though.

Am i getting a good deal?
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it actually really depends on the material.. try finding out more about the material which is used for your suit..

This post has been edited by jind86: Mar 5 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Mar 5 2009, 09:21 AM)
i am skinny, so cant get any suit from the rack easily. Any recommendation:

1. get one that most fitted and alter
2. get a tailor

how much it will cost me for most of the brands?

by the way, where can i learn these suit stuff ...

what is blazer? can i just get a blazer or something? look at those mat salleh, they are quite nice with jacket or whatever you call on them .. are those suit / blazer / jacket ...

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it really kind of depends how skinny you are and your body shape as well, like for me, its not easy finding an off-the-rack suit jacket, most jackets just wont look right, the important thing here is knowing how a good fit of a suit should look like, at least you know what to aim for once you know how you want it to fit..

it really depends on your budget and how well-fitting you want your suit to be.. if your budget is lower, then go for a ready-to-wear (provided that they fit you in the right areas, which is why i said you shld know how a good fit shld look like) and get minor alterations done.. if you have a slightly higher budget, then you could go for made-to-measure or custom made.. the fit is definitely going to better as it is measured specially for your body, but you have to pay the price..

you could learn some general stuff here, goto the first post, i posted some links there, to add to your knowledge, visit some websites or talk with a tailor =)

a blazer is more casual than a suit jacket, blazers often have metal buttons and are often solid colors..

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 5 2009, 10:42 AM)
Learn? How much do you want to learn? If you want to learn about suitmaking, a fashion school would be the first place to start. If you want to learn generally about suits, here is a good place to start. Just ask questions and probably you get your answers. Else you need to surf the net and search for what you need to know about suits.
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Indeed. Forumers here are considered lucky when the Men's Style & Fashion subforum and this particular thread popped up. I used to learn everything about suits by checking out suits in boutiques hands-on, browsing other forums, blogs and googling a lot -types,cutting,fabric,tailoring,anatomy,patterns,weaves, et al which took quite a lot of effort and time to filter through other information.

Just ask ahead and we will try to help you. When in doubt, Google is your friend. smile.gif

QUOTE(jind86 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:59 AM)
a blazer is more casual than a suit jacket, blazers often have metal buttons and are often solid colors..
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Last time there used to be a clear distinction between blazers,suit coats,sportcoats but now the terms are interchangeable when (?) the ladies started naming their coats as blazers and since most modern wifes/girlfriends takes care of the ignorant male partner's wardrobe, blazer became a widely used word to substitute the other two terms. Well, at least that's what I heard.


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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 5 2009, 04:41 AM)
Excuse the douchey smile

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Good-looking there, mofonyx. Worry not about the smile since you look like a money bag instead of a douche bag.

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when i watch movies, there are people wearing blazer(?) with T shirts / shirts in casual ... should i get one custom made or get one from the rack.

so you are saying TopMan is a good place to start ... i tried G2000 before, it did not fit me ...


Added on March 5, 2009, 2:16 pmu guys prefer french cuff ?

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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Mar 5 2009, 01:33 PM)
when i watch movies, there are people wearing blazer(?) with T shirts / shirts in casual ... should i get one custom made or get one from the rack.

so you are saying TopMan is a good place to start ... i tried G2000 before, it did not fit me ...
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Let's just call it blazer since it is a widely acceptable term in this time and age. It would be better for you to get it off the rack as opposed to have it tailor-made (which will cost a lot) if you only want it for casual wear. I suggest getting cheap cotton blazers for casual wear in this country, like those from Philosophy Men, People's, or most other boutiques.

If you are very slim, try the places I mentioned above, and also Topman.

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Thanks Fusion.

Philosophy Men, People's, TopMan

price wise?

do you have any photos to show me ? I mean those that you think never out of trend ... i am a noob in fashion thingy =[

do you guys prefer french cuff?
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QUOTE(FusioneX @ Mar 5 2009, 02:16 PM)
Let's just call it blazer since it is a widely acceptable term in this time and age. It would be better for you to get it off the rack as opposed to have it tailor-made (which will cost a lot) if you only want it for casual wear. I suggest getting cheap cotton blazers for casual wear in this country, like those from Philosophy Men, People's, or most other boutiques.

If you are very slim, try the places I mentioned above, and also Topman.
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i really don't think it would be right to call a suit jacket a blazer, most lay-man would use the term interchangeably but they are two totally different garments..


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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Mar 5 2009, 02:47 PM)
Thanks Fusion.

Philosophy Men, People's, TopMan

price wise?

do you have any photos to show me ? I mean those that you think never out of trend  ... i am a noob in fashion thingy =[

do you guys prefer french cuff?
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they range about RM600-800 for the jacket and the pants..

i personally am not a huge fan of french cuffs, idk why.. i just have this image in me that french cuffs are more for the "traditional" guys (which im sure is not true)..

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QUOTE(jind86 @ Mar 5 2009, 04:54 PM)
i really don't think it would be right to call a suit jacket a blazer, most lay-man would use the term interchangeably but they are two totally different garments..
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I wouldn't either but since alfredfx wants to pair it with jeans and tees, suit jacket is definitely out of the question due to the unsuitable fabric. The remaining choice is a blazer or a sportjacket.

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