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Mr.Docter
post Aug 1 2010, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(nazril @ Aug 1 2010, 09:45 PM)
kalo bersembang tentang urusan dunia semata2 dan mengumpat, mmg lagi bagus tido. tapi untuk kes khutbah tadi, jikalau tertido seblum khutbah sampailah ke akhir khutbah, sedar2 terus org nk sembahyang dah, kes ni pun kena jugak buat solat zohor. kerana sahnya solat jumaat itu mendengar khutbah. kalo mcm ni pun, kita dikira tidak termasuk syarat 40 org sah untuk buat solat jumaat. hal ini kerana syarat sah khutbah sendiri adalah memerlukan 40 org pendengar khutbah

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tidak boleh berkata-kata walau sepatah, walau niat utk menegur org yg sedang bercakap.

bukanlah tidur tu digalakkan, takk. cuma jika dibandingkan dgn brkata-kata ketika khutbah, tidur adalah lebih baik.
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post Aug 1 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(zack85 @ Aug 1 2010, 07:55 PM)
i dont think that muslim can have concubines as it will lead to zina'..

but yeah muslim can have up to four wives..

and there are strict rules if you want to get 2,3 or four wives...

and the rules are (correct me if i am wrong my muslim frens)

1) U must get the PERMISSION with your first wife first.

2) U must treat your wives fairly.

3) Can afford, which means if you think that you can take the responsibility..then you can go ahead..but,must abide the rule no. 1 first.

So if ur first wife doesnt allow you get a 2nd wife..then its haram... smile.gif  smile.gif

but then again...paham2 saja la... smile.gif  smile.gif
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zack85,

You don't need 1st wife permission to married another one. Just the normal rukun nikah and in Malaysia, you need the Shariah court approval.

further reading

http://www.islam.gov.my/portal/pdf/PoligamiPPUU.pdf
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post Aug 1 2010, 09:49 PM

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"Seven wonders of muslim world". 10pm discover channel, 551
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post Aug 1 2010, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Aug 1 2010, 09:47 PM)
tidak boleh berkata-kata walau sepatah, walau niat utk menegur org yg sedang bercakap.

bukanlah tidur tu digalakkan, takk. cuma jika dibandingkan dgn brkata-kata ketika khutbah, tidur adalah lebih baik.
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mintak maaf, aku bukan refer kepada berkata2 semasa khutbah, salah paham notworthy.gif general speaking, better be quite than talking crap
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post Aug 1 2010, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(nazril @ Aug 1 2010, 09:58 PM)
mintak maaf, aku bukan refer kepada berkata2 semasa khutbah, salah paham  notworthy.gif  general speaking, better be quite than talking crap
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ohh. ana fahim smile.gif

islam pun ada cakap, kalu takda apa2 nk cakap, diam. makin banyak cakap, makin bnyk dosa.
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post Aug 1 2010, 10:06 PM

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err ramai2 saudara kita ni, ada yg dah kawin ke? bro Abang mesti dah kawin ni kan? smile.gif
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Aug 1 2010, 09:48 PM)
zack85,

You don't need 1st wife permission to married another one. Just the normal rukun nikah and in Malaysia, you need the Shariah court approval.

further reading

http://www.islam.gov.my/portal/pdf/PoligamiPPUU.pdf
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errkk?is it true?

sorry..my mistake..thanks for the info.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:14 PM

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2. Diriwayatkan hadith daripada Abdullah bin Amru (r.a) bahawa Nabi (s.a.w) bersabda: ‘Orang yang hadhir dalam solat Juma’at itu ada tiga macam (i.e. golongan): (pertama) seorang yang berbuat lagha (i.e. bercakap-cakap atau berbuat sesuatu yang sia-sia), maka itulah baginya (yakni, yang didapatinya); (kedua) seorang yang hadhir lalu berdoa, maka ia seorang yang berdoa (maka) terserahlah pada Allah (a.w) untuk memberi atau menolak permintaannya (i.e. doanya); dan (ketiga) seorang yang hadhir dan memperhatikan (yakni, memberi tumpuan sepenuhnya kepada) khutbah imam dan tidak melangkahi leher orang Muslim dan tidak mengganggu seseorang (dalam jemaah solat tersebut), maka inilah solat Jum’atnya yang akan jadi penebus dosa hingga Jum’at yang akan datang ditambah tiga hari,
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Aug 1 2010, 08:52 PM)
takpa, nabi kita pernah cakap, jika kamu takmau dengar khutbah (in case of penat berperang time zmn dulu2) boleh tidur. sesungguhnya tidur tu lebih baik drpd bersembang.

p/s :  ramai org kita buat solat tahiiyatul masjid atau solat sunat yg lain walaupun imam dah baca khutbah. sebenarnya tak boleh tu.
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oh. xboleh ke solat sunat masa itu? nak tahu lebih dlm

i thought the only time xleh solat2 sunat is after asar, hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Aug 1 2010, 10:06 PM)
err ramai2 saudara kita ni, ada yg dah kawin ke? bro Abang mesti dah kawin ni kan? smile.gif
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muda g la. haha. laugh.gif stadi pun xhbs lg
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(abang @ Aug 1 2010, 11:16 PM)
oh. xboleh ke solat sunat masa itu? nak tahu lebih dlm

i thought the only time xleh solat2 sunat is after asar,  hmm.gif
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tak boleh lah sbb kita wajib dengar khutbah. klu TERtido, lain.

yup, yg diharamkan utk buat solat sunat adalah selepas subuh dan selepas asar. tp ingt, solat sunat =/= solat qada. hehe.
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QUOTE(abang @ Aug 1 2010, 11:17 PM)
muda g la. haha.  laugh.gif stadi pun xhbs lg
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aha yeke. dah tu tulis 'The Abang Family'.. amboi bahagianya dengar wub.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(abang @ Aug 1 2010, 11:16 PM)
oh. xboleh ke solat sunat masa itu? nak tahu lebih dlm

i thought the only time xleh solat2 sunat is after asar,  hmm.gif
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aku x tau la hukum dia yg sebenar, tapi mungkin macam ni....

solat sunat tu sunat je, x buat pun xpe.. dengar jhutbah lebih afdal dari buat solat sunat la... macam puasa sunat la... kalau ade kawan ko buat jamuan sbb dapat rumah baru, sia ajak ko datang makan, lebih afdal ko rai dia punya jamuan dari teruskan puasa sunat tu....
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Aug 1 2010, 11:22 PM)
aku x tau la hukum dia yg sebenar, tapi mungkin macam ni....

solat sunat tu sunat je, x buat pun xpe.. dengar jhutbah lebih afdal wajib dari buat solat sunat la...  macam puasa sunat la... kalau ade kawan ko buat jamuan sbb dapat rumah baru, sia ajak ko datang makan, lebih afdal ko rai dia punya jamuan dari teruskan puasa sunat tu....
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fix'd smile.gif

yup pasal puasa sunat tu betul. adalah afdal klu kita berbuka sbg tanda meraikan. tp ingt, puasa ganti & nazar haram utk sengaja berbuka.
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(hyunckelsyah @ Aug 1 2010, 09:36 PM)
Islam is a religion of JUSTICE

1)We believe in THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT, where every single deeds will be accounted for, be it good or bad.

2)Thats why of someone does bad things to a Muslim today, he can still takes solace in the fact that the perpetrator will be justly punished by God in the day of judgement. For non Muslims who doesnt believe in God, if someone does bad things to them, they will be sad and miserable because they dont have the comfort of knowing that one day that bad person will be justly punished by God.

3)This concept of justice can also be substantiated by the belief of heaven(syurga) and hell(neraka).In simple terms, good people who does mostly good things when they're alive will go to heaven and vice versa

Thats what i have to say for today

Kthanxbye!
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what you say is true..but the thing is nowadays atheist always condemned religion as a burden to human...and they neglect the existence of God.

and other religion also does not understand the concept of living in Islam ways and therefore condemned our way of living and accused Islam as religion that forbid human freedom of expression, desire and etc...

sadly, lots of us cannot explain to them or show them how Islam works...including me.. sad.gif sad.gif

so I am thankful to this thread and hope that everyone here can enlighten me... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(spursfan @ Aug 1 2010, 06:56 PM)
Muslims will tell you a Muslim man can have up to four wives at a time, based on Sura 4:3. Strictly speaking that is not the complete truth, as a Muslim can also have unlimited concubines and can have sex with "women their right hands possess". (Sura 23:5-6; 33:50,52; 4:24; Sura 70:29-30)

can we discuss this? ... if kenot then delete lo ...
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if i rmmbr correctly, a master can hav sex with his or her servant(hamba abdi) w/o need to kahwin coz hamba abdi is like his/her possession... last time muslim also can drink alcohol, before the alcohol was forbidden by god.... but that was long time ago in the time of the prophet muhammad.... now kenot la.. bout the servant thing, i dunno la whether the law was override with new one
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assalamualaikum semua...
ramadan hampir tiba.. bulan keberkatan... smile.gif
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(redkord @ Aug 1 2010, 11:28 PM)
assalamualaikum semua...
ramadan hampir tiba.. bulan keberkatan... smile.gif
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jap... ingt balik niat puasa
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Porie @ Aug 1 2010, 11:14 PM)
2. Diriwayatkan hadith daripada Abdullah bin Amru (r.a) bahawa Nabi (s.a.w) bersabda: ‘Orang yang hadhir dalam solat Juma’at itu ada tiga macam (i.e. golongan): (pertama) seorang yang berbuat lagha (i.e. bercakap-cakap atau berbuat sesuatu yang sia-sia), maka itulah baginya (yakni, yang didapatinya); (kedua) seorang yang hadhir lalu berdoa, maka ia seorang yang berdoa (maka) terserahlah pada Allah (a.w) untuk memberi atau menolak permintaannya (i.e. doanya); dan (ketiga) seorang yang hadhir dan memperhatikan (yakni, memberi tumpuan sepenuhnya kepada) khutbah imam dan tidak melangkahi leher orang Muslim dan tidak mengganggu seseorang (dalam jemaah solat tersebut), maka inilah solat Jum’atnya yang akan jadi penebus dosa hingga Jum’at yang akan datang ditambah tiga hari,
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good hadith there mate thumbup.gif

QUOTE(abang @ Aug 1 2010, 11:16 PM)
oh. xboleh ke solat sunat masa itu? nak tahu lebih dlm

i thought the only time xleh solat2 sunat is after asar,  hmm.gif
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ada beberapa waktu dan ketika x dibenarkan solat, termasuklah waktu antara seblum zohor hingga masuk waktu zohor. adapun yg haram bagi solat pada waktu itu hanyalah sunat mutlak yakni contohnya sunat taubat, sunat hajat etc. namun sunat tahiyatul masjdi buleh saja dibuat kerana bukan dalam kategori sunat multak. namun tidaklah terlarang bagi sesiapa pun ingin mengerjakan sunat mutlak pada bila2 masa hanya di masjidil haram sahaja
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Aug 1 2010, 11:29 PM)
jap... ingt balik niat puasa
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laugh.gif igt, jgn tak igt..

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