S-Spec can get within 1 or 2 months, if I'm not mistaken..
You've just got to wait in line like the others and hope other ppl cancel their booking

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Added on December 29, 2008, 4:52 pmWah.. alot of money leh. RM2k x 10 show rooms.. RM20k upfront even on credit cards is hard..

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Hard for the SAs to jump queue.. cos HM has this thing called the Honda Dealers Management System or something where you actually key in the booking, so if somebody cancels their booking.. the person after him will be bumped up next in line.

Maybe can intercept and cut queue, but I dunno possible or not..

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Added on December 29, 2008, 6:07 pmLet us know when you have booked, okay?
You'll be #31 at LYN Honda City Club..hehe (though I think we should think of a better name)

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 29 2008, 06:07 PM

Yep. Very fast indeed. Haha!
Now we can do countdown on who gets the City first!

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Added on December 29, 2008, 10:46 pmVery minimal not really noticable. When the cars are designed etc, Honda would've calculated the best setup to ensure that both Specs are equal in terms of performance

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Added on December 29, 2008, 10:48 pmHmm, 5400 rpm.. Okay la, will try to verify that claim the next time I test driv..hehe!

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 29 2008, 10:48 PM

You're # 31! Woohoo
Never mind, it's a long wait for all of us.
I'm kickin' myself for booking the S-Spec first. Should have just put E-Spec in the first place. Now got 2 months extra waiting period

Yea.. it was blissful when I drove the FD2R the other day. Redline it to the max..hehe! Scared the cats on the road.
Anyhow.. as the name says is.. it's a CITY. Suppose to be fuel economical and have a big boot to carry luggages and vege

Yup. The L15A engine was after all designed for city driving which just in turn means good low-mid range torque.
Hmm... torque curve dip around 3,300 - 3,500 rpm..so i reckon the i-Vtec kicks in somewhere around that range too..

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Added on December 30, 2008, 10:01 amYea.. the Optimus grille actually looks nicer in real life than in pictures. I don't think chrome would look good cos it will totally look out of place. A subtle contrast like a darker shade of gray would've been nicer

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 30 2008, 10:02 AM

1. K&N Open Pod Air Filter
2. CAI
3. Iridium spark plugs
4. Exhaust piping and Muffler
5. P&P
6. Sports suspension & springs
7. 17" light-weight rims
8. Strut bar

... in the distant future. But for the moment, wil keep relatively stock. Maybe just #1, #2, #3 & #8 since they're the cheapest to splurge on

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 30 2008, 06:17 PM

How much did you spend on your Lenso Samurai + Tyres? (how much did you get for ur trade in?)

Well, I haven't worked it out completely 'cos I still need to source it...but roughly:
1. K&N (4") = RM250.00
2. CAI (Pipercross) = RM300 or Air Ram RM200
3. Heat shield = RM100 - 200 (Not sure, want to source together with my K&N)
4. Iridium (NGK IX) = RM 150
5. Front strut and lower arm bar (Ultra Racing) = RM200+

That's the approximate price I have seen around, my budget's around RM1k - 1.2k. Will try to shop around and see which one will not void my warranty.

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 30 2008, 08:51 PM

Looks like the 1.5E kinda trumped the Latio 1.6 (Premium)

I never considered the Latio 'cos it's so tall 1535mm vs 1470 mm. That's a good 65mm. Great for perhaps tall people (but we Asians aren't generally very tall), I'm 5'10" and I fit just nicely in the City. Plus I didn't like the Latio's rear drum brake, less 'cool' factor for me..hehe!

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Added on December 30, 2008, 9:36 pmThe 'Excitement in the City' hasn't died off yet

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 30 2008, 09:36 PM

I don't see anything wrong with the specs.
When Honda came out with the previous generation City, people said it was ugly.. looked like a frog.. now it came out with its bolder look, people complain about its engine. The same goes with the Vios, old Generation people say look nice but backroom space very cramp. New model come out, people complain Dugong look and ugly backside. I bet both Honda and Toyota have spent countless hours to try to please the market, but due to constraints on their budget and research data, it's probably the best they can do. They can even try to build a "perfect" car, but at the end of the day..people will still criticise about it. It's all about targeting a specific market and striking a balance. It's impossible to please everybody.

What's wrong with the L15A SOHC engine? Can you give me a logical answer in what way and why is it inferior to the 1NZ-FE DOHC engine?
As said previously, both companies are on a different marketing strategy. You need to differentiate yourself from another, if not..better just merge them together and sell 1 kind of car.

Whoa! That's a very good deal. A real steal indeed.
Where's ur SA at?

1. K&N Air Filter - Performance air filter; promotes better air flow (i.e. more efficient and effective than nomal paper filters. Hence resulting in more oxygen entering the engine so that fuel burns more efficiently. Also last longer, no need to change so often. Looks cool in the engine bay too. Conclusion: Increase horsepower and better fuel economy

2. Cold Air Intake (CAI) - Basically a device to bring in lower temp. air into the car's engine (basically funneling cold air to the air filter). Works the same as for #1, to increase horsepower through better efficiency. Theory is cooler air has higher density (greater mass per unit volume), more oxygen.. better combustion.

3. Heatshield - To attach to the air filter to keep out hot temperature around the engine bay area. Basically keeping the air as cool around the air filter area.

4. Iridium spark plugs - Last longer (no need to change so often). Improved ignition or combustion as the Iridium tip diameter is smaller than that of a standard plug hence reducing the likelihood of 'spark jump'. Hence supporse to increase power. IMHO, very marginal as new engines nowadays are very efficient. Want to buy 'cos it can last for 2 yrs without changing. The ones I'm using in my car 3 yrs already and still running well

5. Strut bar and lower arm bar - Better stability when cornering, in theory. For me, cool effect. When ppl open my engine bay. got that piece of metal from Ultra Racing..haha!

I'm a minimalist in terms to exterior mods.. prefer to keep it in the engine bay.

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 31 2008, 03:22 AM

Well.. it's harder to source all 3 at once, maybe at Speedworks.
I wanna get the K&N Typhoon Kit
K&N CAI - Typhoon Kit

this one is for the Fit 1.5 >> K&N Typhoon Kit for Honda Fit

There's another CAI which draws cold air from outside, but might need to drill a hole into the front bumper to mount the tubing. But I don't think I'll do that, too sayang to spoil my bumper.

Actually it shouldn't void the warranty. Basically HM needs to prove that ur modification was the cause of the car being damaged, if they cannot prove it..then we're ok. Say like if the suspension kong due to got defect, they cannot fault you 'cos you have a bolt on aftermarket air filter kit. So far, I haven't seen a full kit for the City. But since it's using the L15A engine from the Jazz, think should be able to fit. Performance will be a little only perhaps 5bhp, but the sound will be more garang cos can hear the air sucking into the intake..hehe

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Added on December 31, 2008, 10:13 amA bit only la. More to looks oso la. People pop up your hood, waah.. got K&N and strut bars..hehe!
Cool factor go up by 25%

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Added on December 31, 2008, 10:16 amHoly Crap. That's downright fugly. I'd never do that to my car.

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 31 2008, 10:40 AM

Find out what brand is this guy offering. I rather pay a bit of a premium for a well known brand instead of a untested brand. Don't want to regret later

Yup. Will definitely call them to verify on this. Don't want to void my warranty unnecessary. If it's a 3 yo car, then don't care la..hehe!

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Added on December 31, 2008, 2:58 pmAnson81: Well, I have one in a Putra at home (Open Pod K&N), the sound is apparent..but not very loud. It will definitely not disturb your neighbour. Anyway, the sound is kinda insulated to the engine compartment.. unless you change to those sport exhaust which has those "prraaappppt" sound. I wouldn't recommend that. If you don't want so much noise, you can just use a Drop-In K&N filter. Same dimension with the OEM air filter, but it's K&N. That's what I'm using in the Waja at home. Fuel consumption, if you drive normally..not apparent, but since the sound very "sedap, deep bassy sound", makes you wanna press the accelerator more..hehe!

zweimmk: Yeah, you're correct. That's why I need to see the K&N Typhoon Kit that is currently fitted in the 2nd Gen Jazz (L15A) and see whether the configuration is different with the new City. If I've to start moving things around, I will forego the CAI and just put in the Open Pod K&N and the Heat Shield.

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Added on December 31, 2008, 3:00 pmDon't EVER put this kind of exhaust, bo. Damn Beng leh.. Rice boy to the max
Actually looking at it, it looks more like putting LEDs around the muffler. *vomit*


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Yea, exterior mods are the most noticable..but I prefer to keep it a sleeper. I have had my fair share of bodykit troubles. Always knock the ramp going up to my house when I've got a full load in my car. That's why putting a body kit, changing rims and suspensions will be done last 'cos it will be useless to me if I cannot drive up into my house..hehe!

I've got my cheapo Pivot Raizin from my current car, so I'll slap it on there.. frankly to me it doesn't do jack sh|t, but the blue LED lights looked cool when I pop open my hood..hehe!

elru, from your pic.. if i'm just droppin' in an open pod + heat shield, it'll just replace the airbox (left-hand side of the battery). Might need to get a little tubing to fit it nicely though since the battery seems to be in the way.

Yea, modding car is expensive. And it doesn't really add much value to your car when you sell them..sigh. 2nd hand car buyers generally prefer stock standard car 'cos they're afraid youngsters like us abuse the car

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 31 2008, 03:38 PM

I bet you didn't read all the posts and urls before you ran your mouth again. Unfortunately, that's also a TYPICAL Malaysian mentality.
It's not all about the < 10 ps or torque. It's the total package, but in terms of economy plus the environment. If you can't back up your claims with rational answers, don't bother answering it at all.

Alright, I'll be nice..

Happy New Year 2009, guys
Anybody heading out to celebrate tonight? It's pretty darn jam in KL city

Isn't this a Honda City thread?

You still don't seem to understand, do you? Honda doesn't just spend money on the BIG VTEC like you say they are. Do you know why Honda are paying attention to these so-called lowly VTEC like the ones on the City and Civic (FD1)? It's all about the dollars and cents. Your high-revving consumers who buys them Type-R or 3.5l Accords do not make up a big chunk of the sales. Take a look at the sales in Malaysia, why does the City, Civic FD1 etc make up a huge chunk of HM's sales? Because the general public who commutes to the city for work doesn't care about BIG VTEC and high-revving engines. How often do you rev > 5,000 rpm and rev. it up to 8,000 rpm to feel the kick? You're probably stuck on the Federal Highway or the LDP for crying out loud. The same goes to the streets of Bangkok etc. That's why Honda is developing engines which are suitable for the general public which focuses on low-to-mid range torque and fuel efficiency. That's how Toyota does it; making cars affordable for the masses. Targeting market share over niche markets.

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Added on December 31, 2008, 9:07 pmWell, I wouldn't spend my money on a CF Hood (sure kena stolen), Mini magnets (i knew it doesn't work along with all those tablets and fuel catalysts.. but never seen that episode of the Mythbusters yet, maybe I'll find it on YouTube), and those HID or aftermarket Halogen bults (my bro went through so many sets already). Still my cheapo Osram bulb was good enuff..haha! I did however put this Stromberg thinggie, which I feel is kinda useless either. Had some aftermarket spark plug cables attached to it.. but well, let's say it was psychological again too..Hmm, nitrogen inflated tyres? Nah.. I'll pass for that 1db reduction. If I want my car lighter, I should get rid of all the files in my car..hehe!

I might not spend much on this car though as I'm thinking of saving up for an EK or DC2. Want to make it into a track car.

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 31 2008, 09:10 PM

As reiterated again, it's all about the dollars and cents. For the power range that Honda wants to achieve, it's cheaper in the long run to have a SOHC as oppose to DOHC. Besides, there's a weight reduction over there with a single cam. Also to note, FC will suffer when trying to achieve higher revs, perhaps more efficient but you still are going to guzzle more fuel.. I think one of their strategy is to cater to what the general masses want. If you're probably not gonna use it, no point channeling the cost to consumers. This is one of their way to keep their cost down since everybody in the world wants to have things cheap. Well, if there was a market for I-DSI, they would definitely have looked at this that way.. but since it wasn't so, well.. out it went

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Added on December 31, 2008, 9:26 pmOh.. when did you book the City. Which spec too?
If it's before CNY, I guess you booked before the launch?
Look's like you're buyer #32

Yup. On your side note, it's all about individual's preference and how dig's their pocket.
If I had it my way, I'd get a WRX STI..but then I've got to eat 'chap fan' everyday and pay my installments for 9 yrs

This post has been edited by sysh: Dec 31 2008, 09:27 PM