the thing is i nvr said impossible in the first place...
none of my posts said its impossible...
i jz said i'll LOL XD
the rest jz join in for fun flaming me that i said its impossible...

anywas nt getting worked out at all...
queueing scenario in warhammer and when it didnt pop, i'll reply here...
jz that some ppl instead of posting fact jz posting flames and fanboy-ism that annoy me (thus my first post in the thread)...
when i actually post a fact, they'll all ignore it and still flame calling BS...
in fact corex, neogeocdz n nakata did post some valid arguments and i had no problem...
it is a healthy discussion...

anyways still waiting for that gundamalpha who said he played mgs4 more than i know to answer my question 3 pages ago and not instead asking me dumb question on 6disc evidence (i feel an insult to my brain), calling BS, proclaiming i need english lessons, calling me dumb etc...

your comment of pirate game only for m'sian make less sense since konami or even MS did not even consider MY for country they will publish the game to. if they not going to publish here, why bother about the pirate games here?

1. again, you said it would be very hard:
"this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue..."
if the developer aiming for only 1 disc then surely thats impossible. but to be multiple disc would be hard?? again, are you 360 developer?

2. back then no exclusivity issue? then you do not know about tomb raider history. prior to COD3, previous COD don't have huge fanbase? COD1 is a game that won so many awards, just so you know.

3. dude, what does he left tecmo have to do anything with sigma?? sigma come out before he left tecmo, just fyi. the reason i brought up itagaki is because sigma is not under itagaki, hence mgs4 port for 360 can also be not under h. kojima. thus, kojima words means nothing for porting to 360.

4. heh, i see wrongly on the fromsoftware announce date, bad choice for example, sorry.
i assume you know lucas arts? they say all their game will be done in ps3 then ported to 360
http://www.bingegamer.net/2008/lucasarts-t...s3-port-to-360/
so there you go, ps3 port to 360, the reality. heck, they even feel it will be easier from ps3 port to 360 than vice-versa.

1. Kojima said he dun like the current-gen tech at all (ie DvD)...

2. it won awards but how much of a rave was it? award winning games dun always have fans mind you... look at okami for instance, clover studio closed down...

3. when some1 is nt happy, he'll leave... when kojima said he wanna left the development, fans have been sending death threats... if its not under him, it looses his magical finishing and touch... jz look at the mgs4 credits, u will see how involve he is from producing, motion capture, voice acting (yes he does motion capture and voice acting as well!) directing, plot, etc...

4. from ur link "This decision was sparked after LucasArts began developing The Force Unleashed for the Xbox 360 back in 2005. When it was time to transfer the game to a PS3 development kit, they learned that it wasn’t easy to move the game from one platform to another."... porting aint easy simple as that... and its TO develop, means they haven implement it yet...

as for the malaysian pirated issue, its a mere remark since i know some ppl who posted are jack sparrow players and its a matter on questioning them hw much would they need to pay for even the jack sparrow version...
more disc = higher cost...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 09:21 PM

1. don't like and hard to do are way different things...

2. back then the rave was really hot. if the sales were no good, would it lead to come out of Collector's Edition , Game of the Year Edition, and the Deluxe Edition? heck, last year valve even make it possible to purchase and download the game.

3. are you talking about people leaving as in itagaki leaving? are you saying itagaki leaving because he's not happy sigma coming to ps3? how involve kojima is in mgs4 don't have proof it's because of death threat. and a port doesn't necessarily need him because everything has already been done in ps3, only left to make sure it stays the same when porting to 360.

4. porting aint easy simple as that? and lucas arts people saying from ps3 ports to 360 is easier. hmm... who's words have more credentials?

I can see this developing into a full blown hurricane.....

But quite surprised with all the cool arguments.
Everybody is so restrained.

Actually i am now quite convinced by evofantasy,
that it will be MGS for iPhone.
Even though i have a iPod Touch, it is none of my business....
Apple do not sell anything to Malaysian based iTune.
To Apple, apparently Malaysians are bunch of Jack Sparrows that earned little income,
not even worth supporting with a iTune Store.

and i think it is actually a game for DS.
but when people saying mgs4 for 360 is not possible just because of disc capacity restriction, i feel something is not right..

lol we are all mature enough to discuss in a not violent manner rite O.o
kojima did said he would like to explore every platform out there...

@xxboxx
well i've stated my POV, you've stated urs...
pretty lazy to keep on replying especially nw in T4 ORvR-ing with my main lol...
i did not agree with some of your points and i'm still not convince of mgs4 on the 360...
other mgs yes, but definately not mgs4: -
- the disc issue
- mgs4 optimized for the ps3 (as in one of the link i've posted)

again i did NOT said its IMPOSSIBLE so i would appreciate it if you guys would stop claiming that i did (including ur latest post)...
all i said was that i would LOL if that would to happen (ie mgs4 in 6 DvDs)

Do you know how much space does MGS4 take on a BD? It isn't full space I tell ya, it was 30+Gb. Your maths may be great, but you are doing the formula without knowing the figures.

---

Added on December 14, 2008, 1:22 amI've never said I've played MGS4 thoroughly.

You were poking on the 6 discs issue like it's a fact.

I never said you need English lesson.

I never called you dumb.

I'm starting to believe you are a full HD student now, you extract so much form my posts which never happened.
The topic had drawn positive responses until your terrible joke on '6 discs on 360' which you couldn't prove.

This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Dec 14 2008, 02:10 AM

maybe ur mind is not like wat ur saying...
boy...if ps3 got pirate game..
did all gamers buy 1 ori game for Rm200++
or u buy pirate version with multi disc
well let say RM70

i bet..most of the people will buy pirate version...
it was clearly ps3 dun have any change either than buying ori

and..pls laa...
dun act liek u were know malaysian 360 kaki..
ur statement show how stupidity u are when saying malaysian gamer not support ori..
if we were not support ori..GH shop will closed down on his 3rd month operation..
BOY

---

Added on December 14, 2008, 2:08 amagain and again...
wats wrong with multi disc even the game play is 20 minutes and cut scene event take 100HRS...

HD = high dumb


This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 14 2008, 02:08 AM

your final revision of your statement are the one that you said you'll LOL if it comes in 6 dvd.
but before that you were saying how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue. heck, you even made a statement that a dvd could not even (if possible its barely) fit 1 act, like you're a ps3 or 360 programmer.
i'm claiming you said such thing, because you did said it.

still believing disc issue and optimization are the reason mgs4 not coming to 360?
one word: naive.

i see this is going nowhere, so gonna put a period over it. my e-penis are long enough already that i do not need to argue anymore to make it longer.

btw, mgs4 players out there, the cut scene are in video form? not in-game?
i thought from ps2 era they start to use only in-game for cut scene.

MGS always use in game cut scene. Only the first demo (non playable) of PS MGS was showing the cut scenes in CGI format.

I remember someone have upload a 4kb file which got 1~3 minute demo like the ingame cutsense which make by some computer expert, the polygon n graphic not good as the MGS4 but we all must think that this is impossible, right?? 4kb file how come can make a 3 minute demo. Now i m searching for this kind of file demo, will upload it n show it here.

This post has been edited by nakata101: Dec 14 2008, 06:30 AM

the cutscene in Volta where Ocelot revealed Guns of the Patriots was a CGI.

ok continue

Hahaha.... this old man is sarcastic and funny.

But, seriously. Although I am convinced that MGS4 is not going to be ported to 360,
.... i really have some lingering doubt, I still think 2 - 3 DVD might be able to handle a modified/optimised MGS4.
But well no point doing that anyway, if MGS4 awesome experience is going to be stripped down.

sorry missed out dark lenanza's name as well in the post...
my bad on that...

btw u have any proof on the 30gb+ claimed?
cause from the article i've posted, its 50 gig...
besides you should know about logical space and the physical space of a storage device itself due to the nature of data structure...

sorry i'm nt talking about every malaysian but most...
its easy to spot them enough in LYN itself..

my 8 ps3 games are ori enough and i dun regret buying them...
sony best titles are from 109-129 itself while mgs4 is 199 which is worth my money being able to play on9 etc...

my first ever post in the topic was the LOL part...
and till now i never said its impossible...
if you cant find such claims in my posts, its time you put a stop to putting a word in my mouth?
all those arguments against me are mainly based on the impossible which i nvr claimed...

the article i've posted said 5 dual layers dvd to fit 1 blue ray...
that is of course if the data is distributed evenly...
since most of you are in the IT field to say programmer this programmer that, you should know that data would not be distributed evenly but rather in a more logical point of view and abstraction...
my logical point of view if i were to implement it is 1 act in 1 DvD with the epilogue and the MGO in the final DvD...

most of wut i've claimed are backed with the links i've posted several post ago...
either those in the discussion are ignorant itself to read the links or something else...
its so obvious ppl are still claiming this and that when the links i've posted already answered it...

i think the egg breaking/ cooking by sunny in the begining of mission briefings are cutscenes/ real video as well since they look too real to be rendered ingame...
there are several cutscenese in the game that are rendered using the in game engine, not fully ingame itself...

if you say fun i can name you so much funner games out there...
mgs4 to me excel in the whole experience...
its more of an entertainment than a game itself just like kojima envisioned...

as i've said, if they want anotehr last remnant on the 360 go ahead...
i'm jz saying my concern with it, not insisting that it is impossible...

ok continue =p
going out later soon...

not to mention pixelated

wonder what happened there

wat..
u only had 8??
u can only afford to buy only 8??
im proud owner of 20++ ori title for xbox 360

yet im alaone had 20++ ori xbox 360
when u saying most xbox malaysian is like u know all of them..
but the true is ur HD (highest dumb) more suit to u in this situation...

coz as far as i concern...
in lyn xbox 360 database
all of them were playing ori game...
so dont spoke on behalf of US xbox 360 when u really didnt know us..

go and open ur text book..
it more worth than showing ur stupidity here...

and yet...if i shifted to pirate...and i buy let say in case mgs4 shifted to 360
20 minutes game play and 100HRS cutscene event...
wat the prob with dat...i dont mind paying RM70 for let say 10 disc game for it...
and wat ur prob with dt??
jealous coz u paying more since no pirated for ps3??
is dat wat u trying to prove boi??

This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 14 2008, 01:26 PM

METAL GEAR ACID FOR iPHONE!!!!!

u heard it from me...

Yes alma, we hear it from u.

This post has been edited by Kyoyagami: Dec 14 2008, 03:33 PM