anybody can advise on termite treatment ? I got a old terrace house, going to renovate soon, I think i will definitely need to do the termite treatment, any idea to do it before/during/after renovation ? what type of treatment to do ? just want to seek some advise before i call up these termite treatment company.

For the usual termite treatment , best to do it before reno..esp if you are changing the floor tiles. Chemicals are sprayed (if flooring is intact, then they will do drilling and pump in chemicals at intervals) on the ground.

There's a new techniqued where no drilling is required. The concept is to 'build' some sort of trap outside the building usually in the garden area, so that the termites will leave the house alone. But this method cost a lot more.

Suggest you call up a few pest control Co. and ask them to quote and assess. grill them as to why you should go with them rather than another co.

any recommended company to call ? from what i read, some of these companies really bad. my area is in Cheras

ask your contractor.. i think he should know how 2 do it... for preventive measure u can do it urself.. only when there's a termite problem u needa pest control

Is it advisable to do termite treatment before the problem bugged us? It's like 'pre-emptive strike' against termite This is because one of my friend suggested this to me since my new house is in the area of kelapa sawit. She said if we do the treatment early, it will cost less. I just receive VP on my new house. Any opinion?

usually all houses is laced with termite powder when it is build.. after building it is very hard to put it as u need to put it below the foundation

the contractor will pump 6liter of dilute termitox to floor every 1 feet. then the ceiling will be spray too as the roof is using wood as support.

If for dyi basic prevention, you can buy termitox from hardware shop and spary yourself.

but for new house, better get contractor.

if you have pregnant wife or friend or going to start family, make sure they stay away from the compound as termitox is very bad for fetus. better you do before renovate then leave the area for 1-2 months for the expose chemical wear off.

so does that mean it is advisable to do preventive termite treatment? It might cost a few k and if it is ok not to do the treatment now then I can channel those few k to other renovation needs.

Hi Ajie,

Check with your developer before doing anything. If there were anti termite treatment during the construction stage ( since yours in new house ), then you can save some money there. Hope this helps.

Thanks DarkChocolate
appreciate the advice

just to share my experience, you guys can try termites baiting box, i have termites problem last month, then my friend ask me to DIY, but i dun like the smell and chemical spray around my kitchen and middle room. after bait my self with the diy box, now no more termites in my house. good luck to you all too.

This post has been edited by tkleong79: Oct 9 2009, 10:07 AM

those chemical spray use for pre construction only can last for 2-3 year from the date they sprayed.

May I know where do u buy the baiting box ?

...sigh

This post has been edited by tkleong79: Oct 9 2009, 10:10 AM

hi, ykltpm

we plan to buy in bulk, so that we can get cheaper price, do you want to join? if you want please check our forum
http://forum.bandarkinrara.com/index.php?topic=266.15
the list all in there.

or you can add you list here, i will help you at there.
we will buy online, try to make it to 30 box, then the price is really low.

Bulk list
1) aeiou 5 boxes ( may buy more if proven effective, will buy from any one here joining the bulk who have extra )
2) jimmylimwk 3 boxes ( because i only see 2 palce got termite,
one is under my book box and one is termite road both also in store room)
3)kokkk 5 boxes
4)
5)

hi jimmy, can i know where to get the baiting box? i stay in cheras. thanks

This post has been edited by adamleekh: Oct 29 2009, 02:50 PM

I was advised by a reliable contractor that the baiting system don't work well. Those pest control company cannot guarantee no termite after the treatment, and charge yearly for maintaince checkup. Ridiculous, he claims.

ya and it is very expensive, my house double storey not a big house and they quote me rm3000, yearly maintanance rm550, too much. i read a lot forum, some say effective some say no, but this is not the main proble, main problem is the price, end up i plan to get the diy product to do my self, effective or not i not sure, now i am asking the jimmylim about the DIY box, but he no reply. i think most the baiting system is the same, problem is why the price so expensive.

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Added on November 16, 2009, 2:06 pmThanks jimmy for the sharing, actually i am using now, hope it work as what you told me. 10 more day to done the baiting, can see they seal up the box now, should be buffet - ing now.

This post has been edited by adamleekh: Nov 16 2009, 02:06 PM

Hi Adam lee,

Can you share your experience on termitesDIY baiting, i just found my house toilet got termite road last night, hope to hear from you soon, wait for your reply before make my decision. thanks a lot.

hi wenyee,

So far is as what the website told, around 30% with lots whole bait eat by termite, and not see any termites in it, should be success i think, i am still monitor it. so i think i recommend you give it a try, you can call me if you need any help on how to bait. i PM you my hp number already. good luck.

jimmy,
how to use the baiting box actually?
can help to get the baiting box for me?

Sorry for late reply, is very easy to use, as i follow the step by step from the website.
you can get from the website your self, they send to me using poslaju after i make order. reach the next day.

This post has been edited by jimmylim: Dec 23 2009, 04:57 PM

HI all, I highly recommend you all about this DIY system, go ahead wont regret.

i received the items. The seller respond very fast

2nite is my unstick date, hope i have a happy new year 2010, please wish me luck, hope my termite problem fix.

its not about just putting a bait. Its knowing how to put it at right place so that the termites can feed on it. You disturb the termites too much and they refuse to eat, they can move and attack some other place.

did the instruction tell you how to check carefully if termites are still feeding? feed how long? how to check if its effective?

But if you manage to get the termites to feed, then your problem will be solved. All the best!

This post has been edited by nando: Jan 2 2010, 09:51 AM

i m in wood industry, i think consumer need to increase their awareness in wood protection. to most effective is to insist our contractor, developers etc to chemicals treat their wood products before use (prevention is better than cure, and i dun believe in DIY, pest control etc). there are many ways to treat the wood but the most effectively is pressure treatment (Tanalised) during saw mill. chemicals will penetrate deep into wood cell (100% and not surface only) and prevent all kind of insects , decay fungus, rot etc. nowaday the delveloper/contractor want to maximize their profit and built house with untreated sawn timbers. Price only 10-20% cheaper but they can earn big $$ with big project. they like to save here and there to make more $ and we consumers will suffer later (termites after 18mths warranty??). note: oversea developers do not behave like this. Actually we consumer do not mind to pay extra 10% extra on timber products eg frame, roof, flooring, cabinets etc) afterall it is only small portion of total house cost. (near negligible but to the contractors are big $). Many contractors argued Msia wood is very durable but no longer today as tree are cut very young. (lesser termite resistant). It is proven in oversea, chemicals treated timbers can last more than 100yrs. (eg electric/lamp posts etc). So in future, if u want to renovate your house, pls insist treated wood (kayu masak). usually it is slight green in color. (not too artificially green coz they may paint /dipped with green dye), Best is to request certificate to confirm it is 100% treated. (not under treat).
if the above is not possible, coz u bought a built house (usually timbers without treatment) :
1. buy suitable DIY wood preservatives (waterbased or solvent based, need to dilute further) and spray/brush yourself. usually this insecticides is very toxic. (some can cause cancer eg chloropyrifos) remember to coat them with a layer of coating to prevent toxication after human touch. coating must be UV resistant/antioxonant coz direct UV/Ozone from air can deactivate the chemicals (shorter shelflife).
the problem is this type of chemicals is very smelly (coz producers always add very smelly diluent to trick consumer it is more powerful) - in fact chemicals have very little smell.
2. Ready to use light organic solvent preservative (LOSP) -no need to dilute anymore. this type of solvent is less smell (depend on the solvent, low odor is more expensive)- need topcoat for longer shelflife. (>10yrs)
most LOSP are added with water repellant and fungicides to prevent decay.
note: i dun trust the expensive pest control companies. they are totally un professional. the effectiveness is short life. also the chemicals injected under ground will wash by water or degraded overtime.

Hi nando.

I got ask the seller, they ask me don't disturb the termite, if not they will move around and attack more place. so i wait for the bait reach my home
then start bait them, really not sure how to check, so i just follow the instruction paper and stick on the termite mud-tunnel and wait for 3 week, so far as how the website say, bait is feed by the termite, many hold and part been eaten and not see any termite there, should be all die in the nest. not sure how to check the effectiveness, so i only can wait and see, will let you guys know if termite come back again.

Hi lucerne,

Now i think my termite problem is fix, but for future i maybe need your help on wood protection, my i know
how much it cost if i want to spray all my wood in my house? and also where can i get the chemical? and the chemical name?.
thanks a lot.

Good write up bro

However, most of the houses construct these day are either using un-treated timber or worst still lousy wood with no chemical treatment. Unless, people who are rich and is capable of contstruct a house from a bare land, then i believe is possible.

those who know a reliable and good termite contractor, please PM me or post it here. I have had experience with these companies and all the warranty and maintenance they say never get fulfilled. I am tired of calling them already. Now. I only want to pay installation fee. Maintenance, only when they come, I will pay.

My termite treatment already going to 5 years already. Time to redo the treatment. I think, I wanna try the box bait method.

Chemicals to prevent termites
1. pressure treatment eg CCA (copper chrome arsenate), boron (eg boric acid, borax pentahydrate),
2. spray /brush/dipping eg cypermethrin, permethrin, copper napthenate, TBTN (tributyl tin napthenate), Azoles etc. (usual in combination)
don't buy Chloropyrifos - banned in many countries. (carcinogen/cancer causing) -still selling at M'sia hardware shops!!

note: option 1 is most cost effective, pls buy sawn timbers after pressure treatment (100% penetration); option 2 can only protect surface--not lasting (less than 1 yr if decomposed /high termite hazard area. careful treatment process is necessary for longer protection effect. (5-10yrs)

estimate option 1 is RM1-2/m3, 2 is about RM10-20/m3

option 2, you mean buy those and self spray it around the house?

option 2 is a ready to use preservatives, all chamicals (depend on what protection needed) are added into organic solvents (stronger smell but cheaper than using low odor solvents). this product is called LOSP , light organic solvent preservatives. they are available in most DIY shops.
for more info, pls visit;

http://www.osmose.com.au/pdf's/timberc...rochure_web.pdf
http://www.archchemicals.com/Fed/WOODAU/Do...ear_English.pdf

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Added on January 6, 2010, 10:32 pmpls remember to put a layer of coating on the sprayed/brushed chamicals, otherwise it will disappear overtime. the best using coating/paint with UV resistant

This post has been edited by lucerne: Jan 6 2010, 10:32 PM

another DIY website to refer:

http://www.protim.ie/index.htm

Termite infestation falls into those category of problem whereby it always happen to the other house or the other and not to yours.

Until of course you finally realize you have one. Then you will have stood up and frantically look up in the internet, yellow pages and papers for the solution to this pesky problem.

The problem is there are so many solutions to this problem; ranging from services by pest control companies and even DIY products. In my humble opinion when it comes to termite, it is best to hand it to the pest control professionals because termite because they have the tools and experience to monitor and control termite activity.

How do you ensure you are getting dollarized returns for your hard earned money and ensure that you get the best deal and solution?

Here, I will attempt to tackle this question and give you some guidelines on how to choose a the best service providers to tackle your termite problem.

I will list down several important criteria to look for in before you eventually sign up for any of their package offered in the market by various pest control companies.

a. The technicians

Imagine going to a Dr that is not qualified when you are sick? It is the same with pest controllers. You need to have service technicians who are qualified and trained to carry out a termite job at your place.

Everyone can spray and parade as a pest control technician, but not everyone who handles the sprayer is a pest control professional. Keep that in mind.

Handing your house to a pest control technician that has no knowledge is very much like serving your house on a platter to the termites.

The very least a technician should have is the PAL or APAL license issued by the government.

The PAL license is an acronym for Pesticide Applicators License while the APAL stands for Assistant Pesticide Applicators License.

At least with the license, you can be guaranteed that the technician had gone through a few hours of class training and have sat for the exam.

Technicians also need to know about the basics in termite control.

An experienced technician will explain how the treatment is done and know the specs of the treatment.

At the very least, the pest control technician should know;
i. the type of termite
ii. hotspots for termite activity
iii. how long will it take to control the termite colony
iv. What type of termite treatment is being administered to your house.

Many masquerading pest controllers I had encountered just blindly go around the house knocking blindly on wooden structures during inspection.

Feel free to pm me if you have any queries on this matter

Next I will talk about the pest control companies .

is there any recommendation for new house in order to prevent termite infestation?

signed S&P in May 2008.
I think house start build a few months later.

collected keys 2 weeks ago. Given a warranty card of termites treatment, but the expiry date is May 2011.
Shall i do anything on termite treatment before moving in?

there is free termite treatment for yr new hse? is this something standard for all new hse?

so which local company have the professional people to do the termite treatment?

Try Ridpest or NLC

I view the Ridpest website nothing mention about their PAL license, i wonder whether they have one or just another company good in selling their product?

Sorry for the ultra late reply; was away for quite sometime, . A company like Ridpest or NLC has been in this business for decades; hence i believe they should have technicians with PAL license.

However, sometimes due to the lack of man power, the technician who might be servicing your house might not have the license or is paired with someone with the license.

You as the consumer has every right to demand to be serviced by technicians with licenses. Simply ask them to show you their license.

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Added on June 7, 2010, 6:17 pmThere are many types of preventive measures taken by developers. A few question u should ask your developer is;

1. Which company is undertaking the waranty>?
2. What will they do if there is an infestation of termite?
3. Since its under warranty, usually you can request for the pest control company to do a quick inspection b4 u move in to ascertain that your house is free from termite activities.

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Added on June 7, 2010, 6:22 pmOther reputable company include

1. Rentokil
2. ISS
3. Ikari
4. Pest Group
5. Abadi Pest Control

Companies above have decades of experience, however do take note that the service is rendered by the technician.
Ask the surveyors questions about termite treatment, the specs, whether the their technicians are trained or not before comitting into any of the companies above

This post has been edited by mbokoto2: Jun 7 2010, 06:22 PM

since Im renovating my hse, tot I might as well get the termite treatment done. got a quote from rentokil for a 532 plan (drilling) of RM3.2k.
Wonderin if this is a reasonable price for a 1.5 story hse? Currently there is no active termite activity in the hse (accordin to Rentokil’s salesperson), so I presume that baiting is not so suitable?

my house is having termites problem.
may I know how do I get the bait box and how much does it cost
thanks

the bait box is only useful when you can see them already in the surface..

The substances in the baiting system itself will not attract them , so if you are putting a baiting system but there is no sign of them anyway in your house or attacking your house, the baiting system will fail.

This is what i was told anyway.. double check.

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Added on August 26, 2010, 4:42 pmHi Kath,
drilling method shouldn't be based on how many storeys.. drilling is usually done on the perimeter of your house, ground floor, the wall that surrounds your house..

I've done my 2nd treatment after 10 years just 1 mth ago... What i got is a duo system, drilling + baiting(only if warranty is invokes). Drilling is done when no sign of those monsters are found, and baiting will be done for free if those jokers surface within 3 years after the drilling is done. All together i get a 5 yr warranty from this co. Just to share.

This post has been edited by numbertwo: Aug 26 2010, 04:42 PM

thanks number two.

ive actually done my termite treatment with Stopest. Just the drillin system for now w warranty of course. Very pleased with their service, pricin a lil bit higher than the Ah Pek & Co, but still cheaper than Rentokil. Owner is the President of Pest Control Association Malaysia, so I guess he won't simply give advise to us.

I already tried using the the baiting box from TermitesDIY. I place the box at 3 different place and 2 of it still have termites activities after 2 month+. 1 box have termite's trace but no more termites inside.

So i wonder this baiting box works for me or not.

Now i'm looking for chemical spray for roof's wood and drilling for the floor. Anyone have good contractor contact can provide? What's the price range for a 22x100 single storey terrace?

And also what's the correct step to renovate roof the have been seriously attacked by termites? I'm going to renovate and replace my current parking lot roof with cement roof. So should i clear the termites first or just straight away take out the infected roof and build new cement roof?

onnying, replied your PMed. Mine is bout RM2.5k. But not sure bout urs, since it's already under attack. Be mindful of the product they use & the warranty period.

Recently discovered that my kitchen cabinets are being attacked by termites. Those little buggers work fast. It's only been 6 months but they already infiltrated almost all my lower cabinets.

I have purchased the termitesdiy baiting system and installed 2 of them on active termite sites. Now waiting for them to take the bait.

Anyone knows where I can get non-repellent termicitides (e.g. Termidor, Agenda)? As lucerne pointed out, most hardware shops sell termicitides that contain chloropyrifos (including Ace Hardware). This active ingredient is poisonous to humans and can cause cancer.

I plan to spray the non-repellent termicitides as a preventive measure after the baiting system has taken out the current colony.

Hi all,

This termitesDIY in a box is picking up in popularity. I tried it but it didn't work much for me. Placed two boxes. One was hardly eaten. The other was so-so after 3 weeks. Two months later, the termites were around again. I paid someone to chemical spray. Just try to ward them off. It worked a few months know this is not long term but baiting system is pricey and after a year, it might come back and already lapsed warranty. This termite exterminate and control is a pricey affair. You'll never know when they're here again.

Should i give termitesDIY another chance?

I am looking for an inexpensive long term solution to end this war against termites!

If you are looking at the pest control company option, I'd recommend going for Ridpest for their 200% money back guarantee:

http://www.ridpest.com/solutions/our-guarantee

I believe they have branches in Desa Petaling, Puchong and Kajang.

There's some information about treating termites on this site about renovation. Maybe you can take a look Termite treatment

Hope it helps

Guys, I did request for quotations before for termite treatment and they varies by price, chemical and warranty. One of my friend recommended the company by the name Jayapest, honestly they are very experienced and good. Not promoting them, but good things should be shared right. Browse their website www.jayapest.com

Guys, I did request for quotations before for termite treatment and they varies by price, chemical and warranty. One of my friend recommended the company by the name Jayapest, honestly they are very experienced and good. Not promoting them, but good things should be shared right. Browse their website www.jayapest.com

Did you find out where to get the non-repellent termicitides? I'm also looking for it.

the ridpest only guaranteed for 120 days...but is it the final solution? i mean ll the termite come back again after 120 days?

I heard that Bayer Agenda 2.5 EC is only sold to lincenced authorised Pest Control companies but its a darn (currently non banned ) good product.

Only 120 days warranty so short? You sure?

Yes, I used this good chemical from rentokil, but
dam kena my water pipes.
I m pretty pissed with rentokil, not becoz
of kena pipes, but the re-tiling issue.
They engaged those lousy contractor to
do tiling n all not in line with the existing tiles.
Asked them to redo n they asked me to
pay the tiles...dam I m pissed, going to
complaint to the hq. Better used bait if
u have done Reno.....otherwise they dont
know where's the water pipes.

Rentokil do tiling for you?

hye thre... if u guys interested wit termites service, i make da service for my customers... see my topic... tq

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2002689&hl=

200% money back gurantee is on what you pay to them. But your items is high cost than what they return , with additonal word "Sorry"...
Last year I engaging them for Mites issues, endup after 2+1 treament issues still there, and when I complained they said your "puchased" have over, if want need to pay again and also indicated that it will be more expensive than before, as they quoted wrongly WTF
I even wrote complained to Ripest HQ...nothing happen at all. End up I DIY myself by getting "Bayer" product...solving my own problem....


This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Aug 28 2011, 01:56 PM

what is the bayer product that you buy? how much and where you bought it?

Sorry, it not Bayer, is from BASF called Fendona. I used it to killed the dustmites and bedbugs.
They even when me to purchased the "Termite Protection Plan (TPP)", but I "F" them as they not even could resolve my problem yet want me to get another service from them? I told the saleman, this is my first and last use of Ridpest...
As for Termine, I just go to the hardware shop and buy one tin, than spray every 6 months around the house and roof top. after spray will out for Jalan Jalan for at least 12 hours due to heavy smell of it

Get Rainbow vacuum cleaner will solve your bed and sofa mite

Today I get a termine control consultant to check on my new house, and he advise to me was doing nothing since all my tiles are new, except I want to make hole on each feet . And he indicated that I should do before tiles in place lol.

Hence for those people who mid doing renovation which involve hack they Grd Floor tiles, you may want to consider implement termine control before new tiles in place, which at least worry free for next 5 years.

This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Nov 6 2011, 01:59 AM

Today I get a termine control consultant to check on my new house, and he advise to me was doing nothing since all my tiles are new, except I want to make hole on each feet . And he indicated that I should do before tiles in place lol.

Hence for those people who mid doing renovation which involve hack they Grd Floor tiles, you may want to consider implement termine control before new tiles in place, which at least worry free for next 5 years.

My apartment I think no termites but more of roaches, ants etc. What kind of pest control to do? Or no need to do?

Those is ease and DIY lol. Go hardward shop and buy those china mari chemical...but becaful if you have small kids at home.

Just do the roof.

The roof could DIY, because can't drill holes and pull those chemical on it.
If a Grd floor, they will drill a 1.5 feets deep hole and put chemical on it for each 1 feets.

Chemicals are toxic and I would not want them anywhere near. Same with drilling holes into the house foundation

Used this system effectively when had problems Sentricon

Get the oil based for roof. So far can only find @ Ace hardware. you need 3 to 4 tin for one standard roof. I am thinking to get another tin do add more on the corner. Maybe next week.

If we use the bait system but could not see the white ants as it has been disturbed, is there such equipment where u can check where the white ants are ie something like a sensor for u to run through all the wood?

The Sentricon is just another type of challenge,the termine may bypass it as well, as it just like a station if the bus (termine) decide not to stop at the station...


WeiKee,
The oil base for roof, is that similar to car black oil??? Because my existing house roof wood (protect break in from roof and heat) have lay a layer of black oil on it as recommendated by the contractor.

Xps, what's the pricing on sentricon like?

Nope, is not for car use. Is made for wood and roof trust.

I have a friend when renovate his house, he ask the contractor use the car undercoat + diesel. But the smell was there for few months.

Oh...OK.
Sorry, my method is same like your friend used diesel, but I didn't smell anything lol


iamgibson,
Just saw that the Rentokit also used Sentricon method...

http://www.rentokil.com.my/termite-control...ting/index.html

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Added on November 6, 2011, 11:33 pmOh...OK.
Sorry, my method is same like your friend used diesel, but I didn't smell anything lol


iamgibson,
Just saw that the Rentokit also used Sentricon method...

http://www.rentokil.com.my/termite-control...ting/index.html


This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Nov 6 2011, 11:33 PM

Depend how thick you apply. Also this method is bit fire hazard.

Speaking from experience. It works as documented.

That you are lucky...because that the honest consultant advised me lol

Termite will eat whatever is soft first. A professional will know how to place it. They detect the present of termite using termite detection device.


This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 7 2011, 11:43 PM

If you are using Maybank credit card, you can check this out:

http://www.rentokil.com.my/news/2011-news/news_495406.html

Exclusive General Pest (GP) treatment for cockroaches and ants at RM340

*6 visits a year. Only applicable for intermediate link houses and condo.

RM340 for 6 visits in one year? That's reasonable........

My contractor told me to buy chemical in hardware shop, they will help me to spray on the roof top & floor before they lay the tiles.....

Cost saving & need not engage any termite control company!!

Friend, that different lal. You need to go up your roof every 6 months time to spray it, or once you hear cockroach or something up there, it meant time to spray.
Spray under the tiles will or maybe a year only. Once you see ants coming out meant KO

Will not you ask them could do those piping type for you, so that in future you just need to pump into it...
SOemwhere in here have the diagram...

Thanks for the info Jo_da

Hi Sifus

So what is the best DIY way to prevent termite during renovation?

When your contractor dig the soil up for beam / pillar just ask them pour the termite poison in. Is very concentrated, can buy like 1 Gallon and ask them pour around. I actually use about 5 Liters. It actually mix of 1:10 Poison:plain water

Hi weikee,

Can you let me know what kind of termite poison that you used? I may need to get it quick before my contractor cement up the ground. Besides, is this termite poison harmful to human health?

Is always harmful. That is why is put in the soil. Not expose.

You go any hardware shop, ask for Termite poison they will know. Is actually for mixing with water. But if you want concentrated just buy more and pour on the soil direct and add some water.

Noted, thanks for your advice. I will check on the hardware shop then .

it only could last not more than a year or less...not forever.

If the soil are expose yes it won't last long. But if is cover under cement it can be few years before is gone.

Sure boh???
Anywhere, we only could find out after few years...
On/Off maybe good to spray external / roof with the termine chemical, as for internal may want to use Fendona for other insect...

If underneath the house have lots of water movement i think the house will collapse very fast.

Well I plan to spray on the ground before the tiling. Is there any issue?

If the ground already cement no point spraying. Is effective only on soil or wood.