think the first fan is cool down the pwm
and then second is core

from the 9600gt..
this fans are very loud also..

its not meant to be silent and is more for clocking purposes.

u do know right
only the only way to measure ure psu has enough wattage for ure hardware is
to have a plug meter wattage reader.

just because it starts.. that doesnt means its ok..

confirm cannot be a lawyer
did u even read the article
kekeke

hd4870 came first
and then only hd4850.

the hd4870 series would not launch until the gddr5 was prepared.

ati and nvidia has one thing in common..
they design the highest end card first and then the rest

what the article points out that
that nvidia still continued on tradition based on yields.. the gt200 that cannot have 240sp activated was reduced to 192sp
and with better yields now they manage to make 216sp versions..

ati didnt want to continue that trend
and wanted the best yield maintained at a very high percentage.
but this had to be done with a smaller die
but at the cost of a 256bit mem.
therefore they had to use gddr5

dont confuse things dude.
it was never a backup.
gddr4 was already being used in hd3870.

it was only then the decided on hd4850
and was changed last minute for a higher spec gddr3 with higher core/mem clocks

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Added on December 9, 2008, 8:10 pmbtw dont assume. which is what i know ure going to reply if u did reply to this

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Dec 9 2008, 08:10 PM

wasting time to answer this.. because its in the article and he either didnt read it
or cant understand it..
i think its both.




This post has been edited by cstkl1: Dec 10 2008, 01:13 AM

see here is another assumption ure making
u think its a driver thats hindering

sishh
its a architecture.
assumptions are no different that spamming

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Added on December 10, 2008, 1:21 amcan somebody please teach this guy slowly what i wrote..

it seems too complicated for him..
somebody
bryan??
staff??
god??


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Dec 10 2008, 01:21 AM

dude even if god came down and wrote the driver
u cannot crossfire two different architecture

dude ure definitely in my ignore list
spammer who knows nothing and calling his betters as spammers..sishh

more like should be a warning letter on a noobie which spams..
no wonder u got so many post in one year.. with so little hardware ..


if u want we can argue in xs..

cause there ppl who are ure betters will educate u on the meaning of manufacturing YIELDS..
which u obviously dont understand at all
and making a lot of assumptions

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Dec 10 2008, 01:36 AM

the price was always 800++ for carbox and driver package with reference cooler.

same as the gtx275 will be around 900++ with stock cooler and no bundle after the initial phase hike.
interesting thing is might be more with a lot of manufactorer opting for custom pcb, custom pwm's and cooler from the get go.
sourcing atm with zotac to sell me the zotac gtx275 extreme cooler
to put on my gtx285. lucky for us distro for zotac and artic cooling is the same in malaysia.


guys again the hd4890 crossfire for me aint working right at moment.
after replacing thermalpaste now 950/1100 on stock voltage. driver is still buggy and not yet ready for any 24/7 gaming rig

again the hd4890 is interesting only because compared to previous hd4000
there is something different internally on the core. clocking the core gives more gain then mem compared to hd4870 which was other way around.

gtx275's are clocking as good as gtx285. wont be suprise if they do 720/1634/2500-2600the memchips on them however dont clock as high as gtx285 which easily does 2800.

actually the card that i will be looking for i guess with be a single gpu 2gb onboard.games like gtaiv needs it at 1920x1200 .