Second hand? Why do you want to get a second hand when you can get a Sony a200 at that price?

You just need to top up RM100 and walla, there you go.

Anyway, if you do have a RM2k budget, you will have more choices, like the 1000D or the D60/D80...

Canon 50D, 40D, Nikon D90, or maybe a D300

You should test the D90 + 50D out, both are equally good, so it's all up to your personal decisions. Have a look at their official site and specifications if you still can't make a decision.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos50d/

Have a look at the comparison chart.

Good luck finding your camera. =)

Prosumer? If you ask me, I'd recommend you to increase your budget and get an LX3.

Anyway, there's the Powershot G10, or the Olympus SP565UZ.

http://www.olympusimage.com.my/products/co...series/sp565uz/

There's no link for the Canon one so you have to go to the site.

http://site-my.canon-asia.com/index.cfm?fu...pe=powershotg10

Try the Olympus FE series.

http://www.olympusimage.com.my/products/compact/fe_series/

@jdreamer:

You serious you can get a 400D for RM1.4K?!?!

IF that's true, I would've got myself a 400D kit + extra lenses already.

Oh. My apologies then. I don't know the used prices well.

You might try the Olympus FE series.

http://www.olympusimage.com.my/products/compact/fe_series/

Most people don't consider this model... for some reason, but in my opinion it's a good camera. Check out the link.

Anyway, it'd help if you compare three of those cameras side-by-side to see which one has more pros over the other two.

If you really are a newbie to DSLR photography, I'd suggest you go for the Sony a200, Olympus E-520, Nikon D60, Nikon D80 or the Canon EOS-1000D. All 4 are really good for starting off DSLR photography.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos1000d/

Have a look at the comparison charts found in this review. Reviews for the Olympus, Sony and Nikons can be found inside there also.

Happy searching.

This post has been edited by TheWandererX: Nov 28 2008, 11:21 PM

Both can be said to be equally good... =/

Picture quality is good, but one letdown - the W150's charger supposedly charges batteries to full in 4.5 hours

The AF motor in the W150 is slightly better than the IXUS.

Ok, that's all I can get. =/ other than that both cameras are really identical in terms of performance.

Ok, sure, no problems

With RM4k you could get yourself a few. Mainly:

Canon EOS-40D (used, most probably)
Canon EOS-50D (used)
Canon EOS-450D (new set)
Nikon D90 (new set)

I'm not sure of other brands but these two are quite a good choice.

I think you should Google and read some reviews on these few first.

Olympus possesses the longest zoom range, if I'm not wrong. 20x.

You can try to read some reviews about it. Frankly, most of the decision-making counts on the pros and cons of each and every camera.

In my opinion I think the G10 and the P6000 loses out slightly to the Panasonics, while I have no idea about the Fujifilm...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08072102panasoniclx3.asp

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08072104panasonicfz28.asp

Have a look at both. =) and compare the specs. If you still can't find your choice, then look for pictures taken by the LX3 and the FZ28. That'll enlighten you on how well the camera works in certain environments.

Good luck trying to find a good deal then. =)

If I'm not wrong, you could try to scout deals from Fotokem or any photo shop out there - go in, ask the price, and say 'Ok, thanks, I'll consider the price and if I do want to buy it, I'll come back'.

Pick and shoot? Then it'd be best if you stuck to PnS cameras.

Most people keep going for DSLRs thinking 'ooh they can zoom real far' and 'ooh they take super cool pictures, i want one'.

What they don't know is another world exists behind these black boxes.

If you really are into this world... then go ahead, but if you just think like what I've quoted above, you should really stick to PnS cameras. DSLRs aren't like PnS cameras. They're totally different.

Ok, enough lecturing, if you really want one.. then it's your money, your choice, I can't change it.

Anyway, with RM2k, you can get:

Nikon D60
Nikon D80
Canon EOS-1000D
Sony a200
Olympus E-520

It's best if you read the reviews and see which is best for you before considering.

Anyway, if you want a powerful zoom, you will need to get extra lenses. Even the cheapest is RM1xxx. (not including 55-250 IS) So, consider it before even thinking of venturing into the DSLR world.

No problems. =)

The D40 is good - but consider another one - Sony a200. =) RM1.4k.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2008_review...on_a1000is.html

http://www.cameras.co.uk/reviews/canon-ixus-960-is.cfm

Have a look at the reviews, compare the specs and see what appeals to you most.

If you really want a DSLR, there're many other choices you have, mainly:

Canon EOS-1000D
Nikon D40
Nikon D60
Nikon D80
Sony a200
Olympus E-520

You might want to read a few reviews and see how things look like to you. Personally I think the 1000D wins in the entry-level category. (because I'm a user of it, of course)

If brought over from conversion, should be around RM900...

Try scouting every camera shop you see and ask them to quote a price for you, remember it, and go on. Keeping a list would be good.

Later on, when you get home, choose the cheapest and if you still aren't happy, search again. =)

Olympus FE series.

http://www.olympusimage.com.my/products/compact/fe_series/

Cheap and suits your need - dual IS. =)

P.S.: I guess Olympus FE is really a good camera, you can't deny it...

Shashinki.com sells it... but it's kinda overpriced... so I'd recommend you to scout around your neighbourhood's photo shops and let them quote a price for you. If you can, bargain in a few freebies to help yourself =)

Oh, thanks for the info - I'm not sure about the Olympus' prices.

Anyway, the 100-200 can usually be bargained off the seller one.

* We like: Build and styling, decent feature set for the price, flash performance
* We don't like: Slow operation, poor low light performance, auto white balance and metering a bit flakey, proprietary xD card format

It's mostly subjective. People have different preferences. If person A doesn't like this camera, obviously there's another person out there who would like it.

It's all up to personal preference. If you choose the Olympus, then that's your choice - if you choose the Canon, it's your choice also.

What we do here is to show you the available choices you have, not the camera you should buy. We aren't salesmen here - we don't bias on a specific brand.

Base your accusations on a firmer ground next time.


Entry level? Do you want a PnS or a DSLR?

If DSLR, it's kinda impossible to get a D40 at that price (I think)...

For entry-level DSLRs, based on a RM2k budget, you can get:

Sony a200 (1.4k for kit, 2k for twin kit)
Canon EOS-1000D (2k for kit)
Nikon D40 (1.xk for kit, most probably used)
Nikon D60 (2k for kit)
Nikon D80 (2k+- for kit, used)
Olympus E-520 (2k+ for kit, used/new, not sure)

If you're looking for the most value for money one, get the a200... and if you can fork out 2k, ... read reviews of the above mentioned.

This post has been edited by TheWandererX: Dec 1 2008, 06:53 PM

If you're already well off in PnS and you want to move on, get a DSLR.. but if you're still not ready to venture into DSLR then get the LX3. AEB is a feature available in every prosumer/DSLR camera.

Oh.. you could ask your friend to get it for you then.

Ok, if you think it sucks, then it's your opinion.

Increase your budget a little more and get the LX3. The best prosumer around and trust me, you'll be happy about it.

Anyway, if you really can't, have a look at the PowerShot S5 or the FZ28. These should be around your price range.

If you can increase your budget, get an LX3 because there's not much choice in the prosumer range. Anyway, you could stick to your choices - but you should play with each one first. I've never used both so I can't comment.

D60 is around RM2k for new kit. 1000D also.

If you want, might help to consider a200.. RM1.4k for kit, and RM2k for twin kit set.

a350 is RM2k+ for a kit set.

The price is ok, you probably earn a few extra dollars from that. If you cant find a better deal, get it.

Anyway, the extra money is topup to get those items, but if china brand chiplak stuff, then don't get it. You're topping up quite a bit there.

@sQew:

It depends on what you're looking for.

What are you looking for?

That, I can't tell you - I ain't a price surveyor of camera shops, but there's one thing you can do - invade every camera shop you see. Ask them to quote you a price. After doing so, bargain kao kao... Ask them to give you this and that, and if the deal still doesn't please you, walk out. It's your right as a buyer.

Just as a side note: I got mine for RM2000. Inclusive of free Class 2 Sandisk SDHC, cleaning kit (cloth, liquid, blower etc), extra battery, and extra sling bag. Oh, and extra UV filter.

Lower yes, but not sure how much the shop owner will give you loh.

It depends on which part of both cameras you like more. Also known as personal preference.

In my opinion, most cameras around your range are almost the same... It's just that some have different features... while some don't. It really is up to you to choose.

I think the L18 and the Lumix LS80 would appeal to you most. These two are ok-ok cameras for their range. About the others, I've never seen or used before, so I can't comment.

Anyway, no problems mate. =)

Depends on which model you want. Just a note: low-end to mid-end Lumixes lose out in JPEG processing and low light photography.

Kit: Camera body + another lens.

Body: Camera body only.

Anyway, the entry-level DSLRs are:

Canon EOS-1000D - Kit 2k
Sony a200 - Kit 1.4k, Twin kit 2k
Sony a350 - Kit 2k+
Nikon D60 - Kit 2k
Nikon D80 - (used) kit 2k
Olympus E-520 - (used) kit 2k

You'd be better off choosing a new set, but I just quoted the others for your reference.

Anyway, twin kit is camera body + lens + another lens. = 2 lenses.

Try to squeeze in a bit more lo.

For that budget:

A350 = new (twin kit RM2.8k (i think), kit RM2k)
50D = used (RM3k)
1000D = new (RM2k)
450D = used/new (not sure)

Anyway, I dunno where I saw it, but you have to consider a lot of things before you buy a DSLR.

1. Availability of 3rd party lens.
2. Availability of 3rd party used lens.
3. Price of lens.
4. Portability of lens (if you want to upgrade to a better DSLR later)

I'm not sure, it's something like that.

It's up to you to choose, but I'd recommend you to get a new set.. and you left out a few - the Nikon D60 and D80.