I had frens studyin matriks n A level n i myself studyin F6 now... They always complain to me how hard A level n matriks is, n i told them i shud be de one complaining coz STPM is hardest n they said same level....

is it true??

Btw, I had heard rumours tat STPM is de top 5 hardest pre-u exam in de world, isit true? can show me any proof?

i think it's getting easier by the year.....back in the 80s and 90s, very hard...

maybe STPM

STPM > A-levels > Matriks

But syllabus almoz de same....how to say STPM scope is wider?

STPM: wider scope, wider information, slightly easier than A-level questions
A-level: narrower scope, less information, picky and "very-hard-to-guess" and "think-a-lot" questions
matriculation: wider scope, less information, much easier questions

This post has been edited by IamjustME: Nov 27 2008, 08:27 PM

STPM 100% harder..no need discuss..between A level and matriks i think is A levels

I think stpm is easier than spm .

maybe because I change from science stream to arts stream in form 6.

Not sure about A-level but I'm sure that STPM is harder than Matriks (unless they changed the syllabus), and got much lesser chance to secure a place in IPTA. I am from STPM and have some friends who are from matirks, we did compare before.

Cannot be...
I'm from science stream and stayed in science stream in form 6, SPM looks easier no matter how I look at at it, maybe it's just me.

no it's not just you. i was a pure science student all the way till A levels, also realized SPM is really, well, a piece of cake

i really look highly on those who did stpm. it's harder. plus got the pengetahuan subject to take. the finals are only once after 2 years studying. so, imagine, like spm la. studying finals for subjects taken 2 years.

i did my matrix. it's easy 2 get 4.00 if u really study hard. we have finals on every sem(6 months prior).

so, to stpm-ianz, i salute u!

spm...really like consuming air lar... haiyo... stpm...definitely hardest... haha..

STPM 100% harder but those who take STPM instead of matrik if got chance is 100% stupider..cuz matrik u got higher chance to enter good course in university and u dun waste 2 yrs of study...if got chance go for matrik..

yup... agree....

Actually if you are hardworking and willing to spend some time with your books, stpm/a-level/matrix will not be a problem.

I am taking stpm, science subject 5 subjects (Pengajian Am, Maths T, Physics, Chemistry, Biology)

I will write little analysis about the subjects i take as well as review of STPM:

Pegajian Am: Malaysia systems and plans, global issues, some basic scientific knowledge, if you are well-informed, then this subject should be piece of cake. Not to mention the easiest subject to score among others.
Forgot to say paper 2 is a race against time.

Maths T: If you think add maths is hard, maths T is 3x harder. Brace yourself if your maths is not good. Functions, geometry, trigonometry and especially probability are much harder than before. Constant practice will do you the magic of getting an A.

Chemistry: Physical chemistry calculation can be tricky, just beware. Organic and inorganic have a collection of equations for you to remember.
Concepts are quite confusing, but surmountable.

Biology: The scope is very wide. Meaning, you can read and memorize many things from the book, but exam comes out little, and rather basic.
The most stressful subject before exam because you will tremble if you've forgotten some processes. This subject is good for people that knows how to get the gist of ideas and summarize. Many interesting facts. Can score easily.

Physics: This subject has some confusing and long concepts. Objective questions are the most tricky among 3 sciences. It's not totally the same as your form 5 physics (you remember formula and apply), you will need to adapt to certain situation and derive new formula. Very challenging and fun. Rely on practices more. Remember some definition and process.
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Pros:
- You learn a lot, really a lot
- Pressure will push your limit and raise your confidence
- You will become more mature, because you do more thinking and will have more opinions and comments (lol)
- You get long school holidays
- your self-esteem become higher

Cons:
- Very stress in everyday life, must cope with the lesson
- Many practices are required to excel, unless you are super genius
- workbook/practices are quite rare
- need tuition if you are weak, harder to find than spm tuition (duh)
- concepts are very fast to be likely forgotten, because most are too in-depth
- beginning of the year will be suffering (like A-level), but will gradually turn out fine. (e.g. Biology imported some concepts from behind to 1st chapter, you will find it hard to understand at first)
- getting an A in stpm is not like in spm, less STPM candidates (50k this year), don't hope high for A if you are confident of 60+


Conclusion:
STPM is not really that hard or unsurmountable....because the standard has dropped. Recommended to take if you want an easier university life (provided you understand everything in F6), and of course admission in IPTA & IPTS. (which i think better because you adapt to harsh learning condition first)

Advice:
- buy some workbook/practices, start doing it, it really works better than you keep reading the book repeatedly (but you must at least understand the concepts behind)
- balance your stress with some sports or enjoyment, try to avoid computer games (it will diverse your attention and memory, seriously)
- take 4 subjects if you are certain about what you want, more manageable



I wrote this analysis out of stress-ness. Next week still got all the objective paper left, hehe. STPM top 5 in the world? Nahz, don't think now remains the same, maybe it used to be. A-level questions are harder. TS you should keep going for STPM, you will never regret if you are hardworking enough

STPM one week moar!!

This post has been edited by shinhou: Nov 28 2008, 12:23 AM

it is tough in terms if wide syallabus
in addiiton, it requires "answering technique" same as spm as well (what the hell !!!!!)really no brain (also got marking scheme)
SO it is based on your SCORING, not based on your maturity

If i remember correctly, answering technique is only required for Pengajian Am. As for a science subject or mathematics, it requires throughout understanding.

Techniques of solving are important too. Can master easily through ample practices.

Ok...

Matrix... 1 year or 2 semester or 5 month per semester

1 semester worth of kuliah is equal to form 6 lower of syllabus. (Its like you are in form 6 lower and having an exam that the marks for your STPM is from form 6L, and your trials and exam are REAL exams)

and there's mid semester in the 5 month which are located in the first 2 month of the first semester.

Matrix result = Mid Semester 30% + Reports, pop-quiz and extras 10% + Final 60%

Meaning : As soon as you started orientation, you have to study harder since you got only 2 month before exam. And its like 2.5 month of study 1 week holiday 2.5 month studying and exam and 1 month of holiday and 5 month of study and then holiday and enter university. Its hell, I tell you.

Its hard because its a never ending studying and you can't pause even once or do any last minutes thing.

and NO tuition. This is the stage where you are introduced to group studying.

And if you flunk the mid semester (get anything under a C = C-, D, E, F), you'll be dying to get a B for your finals. And if you got most C, and no A.. and if you got for 1 semester GPA under 2.0, they'll kick you out.

Its depend on the person. If you are dependable to tuition, parents and others, you might not be suitable for matrix.

And matrix are known to produce tangkap+basah kids and schizophernics. Some highschool top student actually flunk during matrix. So it is a pressure cooker too.

STPM are 1.7 year of studying and then 1 month of exam. Its a luxury of having the last exam at the end of the studying term. You have the time to procrastinate, tuition, watching tv, dating, last minute studying and last minute everything since your exam is the end of the next year. But it is possible to score if you were also studying hard even when you just started form 6. No different actually.

A levels is similar to STPM right? Except that it was conducted similar to university system and actually, some of the books are similar to matrix (I use them too)


What matters.... GET INTO UNIVERSITY AND STUDY!!!

Sounds scary. Like compression of form 6 nia (minus school holidays)
i think we use 11-12 schooling months to finish the entire F6 syllabus. Since it's the express way to uni, i don't expect it to be too easy.

All syllabus about the same...just form 6 has more in scope....so threaten most of the people....

At least I've done my form 6 now