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darren08
post Jan 11 2010, 04:27 AM

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I have a question, there are several ways to apply for this MT. Which way is the best method to get response?

The online application does not seem to be working.

Thx in advance.

I think this is a great opportunity judging from everyone's comments.
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:56 AM

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ice_brakerz: ckwei is right. I got my result in a few days, as I was travelling from outstation so the HR helped me out.
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post Jan 13 2010, 11:24 AM

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So, Pepper. Where are you now? Are you telling me you turned down Bursa!? ZOMG! tongue.gif
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post Jan 13 2010, 02:46 PM

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Hey guys i got a called for 4th round today, the lady on the line said that i was to have an interview with this other lady whom i caught was Pn. Something, (lol... i was driving and was just shock to get a call after so long).

So guys any tips on the 4th round and how to impress the board??

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post Jan 15 2010, 08:58 AM

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First tip: Find out who that Pn. Something is. She is VERY important towards your career.

If you do not find out, there's no point anyone telling you more about the 4th round. smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2010, 11:35 AM

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lol.... very good point, HR said she would call me again this week to confirm a time, i would definately ask her then

Just wanted to ask 4th round you got interview by how many people

btw assuming that you are already in the program i was just wondering whether you are actually getting anything from the program? Like learning and stuff.

Sorry to be asking these long questions just that i dunno what to choose right now

and thanks for your help
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post Jan 15 2010, 02:27 PM

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CKWei explained quite abit in the other thread.

Learning or not, it depends on yourself. The layout of the programme is 2 months classroom training, 10 months rotation in departments. The 2 month classroom training is an eye opener for any graduates. It will expose you to what a bank is all bout, investment banking and consumer banking. Endurance must be high thought, as pressure and lack of sleep will kick in sometimes. smile.gif

As for rotations, you'll be rotated to departments within CIMB. You will get to choose which, but it will also be depending on whether there's vacancy in the department or not. As for learning curve during rotations, I believe it is up to the individual. If you're pro-active, then definitely you will learn something. If not, I can't say anything much bout it anymore. smile.gif

What's your education background again? Can PM me if you want. Or email.
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post Jan 15 2010, 04:47 PM

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PMed.... thanks a lot
darren08
post Jan 16 2010, 01:14 AM

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I went for the interview, turns out they didn't invite me for MT but for FSTEP.

When i asked why i cannot go into MT, this is what she replied to me:

" O Sorry that program we ONLY OPEN FOR OVERSEAS graduate ".


Lol i didn't knew this. Never stated anywhere also on their recruitment ad.
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post Jan 16 2010, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(darren08 @ Jan 16 2010, 01:14 AM)
I went for the interview, turns out they didn't invite me for MT but for FSTEP.

When i asked why i cannot go into MT, this is what she replied to me:

" O Sorry that program we ONLY OPEN FOR OVERSEAS graduate ".
Lol i didn't knew this. Never stated anywhere also on their recruitment ad.
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MT is not open for overseas graduate only.. There are local university graduate also.. They told you like that because you cannot speak with oversea slang with local uni degree. The fact is they hire MT more than 90% of it is overseas graduate.

Local graduate can enter it also if you can speak very well. If you cannot speak with oversea slang english(but still consider as normal fluent english), you still able to enter if your achievement in your degree able to enlighten them(example, local graduate with 4.0 or nearly 4.0 CGPA from top university and good degree major).
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post Jan 16 2010, 10:07 AM

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Well personally although i am not part of the programme i know friends who are in the programme but are actually local graduates. Maybe you can try to ask again?
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post Jan 16 2010, 10:57 AM

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as long as you speak decent english and dont stuff up, it's fine. there's no such thing as recruiting only foreign grads. actually on the contrary they take in quite a number of local grads nowadays, with their whole aim of going local/regional. it used to be very very biased towards foreign grads, but not nowadays smile.gif

tata88: if the person has gpa4.0 but cant hold a decent conversation or sell him/herself well, its of no use. they have rejected plenty of gpa4 people just because they cant even speak in english.
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post Jan 16 2010, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(ckwei @ Jan 16 2010, 10:57 AM)
as long as you speak decent english and dont stuff up, it's fine. there's no such thing as recruiting only foreign grads. actually on the contrary they take in quite a number of local grads nowadays, with their whole aim of going local/regional. it used to be very very biased towards foreign grads, but not nowadays smile.gif

tata88: if the person has gpa4.0 but cant hold a decent conversation or sell him/herself well, its of no use. they have rejected plenty of gpa4 people just because they cant even speak in english.
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Looks like you misundertood the meaning of my sentences. I said local graduate that cannot speak in a foreign slang but still able to speak in a normal fluent english still possess chance if their achievement in their degree is very good such as CGPA 4 or nearly 4. Of course that the degree that the person possess have to be a well known local university and the degree is not simply any cheap degree(I mean not those degree in some degree in some local university that is not hard to obtain CGPA 4).

There is actually another reason for normal local graduates hard to get into MT in cimb. There are also master degree fresh graduates from local/overseas applying for the MT. The master degree graduates are not just master degree graduates majoring related to finance/banking/mathematics/accounting but there are a lot of people applying such as majoring in something where the knowledge is absolutely not able to apply in bank. This situation is normal because the economics before this was miserable(the economics just starting to recover. Those master degree holder maybe hard for them to apply for job in the field where they studied such as engineering/aviation/agriculture/petroleum since those industry itself are facing their own problem and cimb MT able to provide them nice salary).

Note: I did not ever say GPA 4 then can have high chance to get into MT and GPA 4 is very different with CGPA 4. GPA means only 1 semester able to get 4.
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post Jan 16 2010, 10:04 PM

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I achieved Band 6 in MUET, i can speak English fluently and i am a first class student. (Not showing off or anything).

That is why i was a bit disappointed when she said that.

But she is a nice person lah, she advised me to apply for other permanent jobs in CIMB since MT is very exclusive.

This post has been edited by darren08: Jan 16 2010, 10:05 PM
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post Jan 16 2010, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(darren08 @ Jan 16 2010, 10:04 PM)
I achieved Band 6 in MUET, i can speak English fluently and i am a first class student. (Not showing off or anything).

That is why i was a bit disappointed when she said that.

But she is a nice person lah, she advised me to apply for other permanent jobs in CIMB since MT is very exclusive.
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MT is just salary higher and able to get more different exposure only. If you able to get a permanent job that you really want in CIMB/other companies, MT is not that special too. Maybe she got order from her boss to recruit only overseas graduate for the coming batch of MT(no one knows except the HR).
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post Jan 16 2010, 11:35 PM

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Hmm..... its actually kinda wierd, maybe you should really ask again and clarify...... in all honesty i would choose a permenent job over MT too

BTW GUYS please advise on 4th rouund....... how many questions where they and how long was it??

Thanks
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QUOTE(darren08 @ Jan 16 2010, 01:14 AM)
I went for the interview, turns out they didn't invite me for MT but for FSTEP.

When i asked why i cannot go into MT, this is what she replied to me:

" O Sorry that program we ONLY OPEN FOR OVERSEAS graduate ".
Lol i didn't knew this. Never stated anywhere also on their recruitment ad.
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Just wondering, has anyone else got this reply before when applying for CIMB Complete Banker Programme?

Also, is there anyone here who're in the CIMB Complete Banker Programme but are graduates from local universities?


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The Programme is offered to qualified fresh graduates, or those with less than one year of working experience, from both local and foreign universities.

The above quote is from the CIMB Complete Banker Programme (TCB) site over here:
http://www.cimb.com/index.php?ch=group_ch_...&tpt=cimb_group

So it's a little conflicting what the CIMB person mentioned to darren08 and what the CIMB website says.

This post has been edited by DeniseLau: Jan 17 2010, 06:39 AM
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post Jan 17 2010, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(DeniseLau @ Jan 17 2010, 06:31 AM)
Just wondering, has anyone else got this reply before when applying for CIMB Complete Banker Programme?

Also, is there anyone here who're in the CIMB Complete Banker Programme but are graduates from local universities?
The above quote is from the CIMB Complete Banker Programme (TCB) site over here:
http://www.cimb.com/index.php?ch=group_ch_...&tpt=cimb_group

So it's a little conflicting what the CIMB person mentioned to darren08 and what the CIMB website says.
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I can only say "There were few local graduates in TCB" but if you want to ask whether will there still be any local graduates in TCB in the future, only HR know the answer.
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post Jan 17 2010, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(tata88 @ Jan 16 2010, 08:35 PM)
Looks like you misundertood the meaning of my sentences. I said local graduate that cannot speak in a foreign slang but still able to speak in a normal fluent english still possess chance if their achievement in their degree is very good such as CGPA 4 or nearly 4. Of course that the degree that the person possess have to be a well known local university and the degree is not simply any cheap degree(I mean not those degree in some degree in some local university that is not hard to obtain CGPA 4).

There is actually another reason for normal local graduates hard to get into MT in cimb. There are also master degree fresh graduates from local/overseas applying for the MT. The master degree graduates are not just master degree graduates majoring related to finance/banking/mathematics/accounting but there are a lot of people applying such as majoring in something where the knowledge is absolutely not able to apply in bank. This situation is normal because the economics before this was miserable(the economics just starting to recover. Those master degree holder maybe hard for them to apply for job in the field where they studied such as engineering/aviation/agriculture/petroleum since those industry itself are facing their own problem and cimb MT able to provide them nice salary).

Note: I did not ever say GPA 4 then can have high chance to get into MT and GPA 4 is very different with CGPA 4. GPA means only 1 semester able to get 4.
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Wow, I really hope you're not in the programme tata88. You're giving some REALLY misguided information here.

#1: I am a local graduate, from UPM. Not UM or USM or UKM but UPM. (Go check out the rankings of the local universities and you'll know where UPM stands)
#2 : I dont speak in a foreign slang. In fact, I had a few Manglish moments in my conversation with the HR and HR Director herself. The "lah"s and all.
#3: I do not own any master credentials. Only a Bachelor's degree in Accountancy.
#4: Never in my 4 years had I obtained any GPA 4, or CGPA of 4. My CGPA is only 3.7*** ( save the details! biggrin.gif)

I'm just posting this to correct some mis-information given here.

As for whether or not local graduates are still being accepted, the HR will have to confirm that. But one of my friends just got called up for interview. There is no reason they will call you up if they're not hiring. So my guess is, locals are still accepted, but I guess the selection criteria just gotten stricter as there are more and more people applying to it.

Darren08: The FSTEP programme is by Bank Negara if I am not mistaken. So rest assured the quality will be there. And you will be working for CIMB when you complete it also right? Give it some thought.

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post Jan 17 2010, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(ArSe-SeNG @ Jan 17 2010, 07:01 PM)
Wow, I really hope you're not in the programme tata88. You're giving some REALLY misguided information here.

#1: I am a local graduate, from UPM. Not UM or USM or UKM but UPM. (Go check out the rankings of the local universities and you'll know where UPM stands)
#2 : I dont speak in a foreign slang. In fact, I had a few Manglish moments in my conversation with the HR and HR Director herself. The "lah"s and all.
#3: I do not own any master credentials. Only a Bachelor's degree in Accountancy.
#4: Never in my 4 years had I obtained any GPA 4, or CGPA of 4. My CGPA is only 3.7*** ( save the details! biggrin.gif)

I'm just posting this to correct some mis-information given here.

As for whether or not local graduates are still being accepted, the HR will have to confirm that. But one of my friends just got called up for interview. There is no reason they will call you up if they're not hiring. So my guess is, locals are still accepted, but I guess the selection criteria just gotten stricter as there are more and more people applying to it.

Darren08: The FSTEP programme is by Bank Negara if I am not mistaken. So rest assured the quality will be there. And you will be working for CIMB when you complete it also right? Give it some thought.
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Did you see there must be some master degree holder same/different batch with you in TCB? If you did see there are some master degree holder in each batch, then i am correct.

If you want to say UPM is low level(i did not say which is high/low level), you were wrong again. UPM is 1 of the 4 universities that government trying to turn it as "Research University"(or with some other name) where UM, USM and UKM is in the list of "Research University". Not all universities in Malaysia got the chance to be name as "Research University".

3.7x is not too near 4 but still consider as sufficient to be grade as 1st class.

For the Manglish, you maybe the special 1 in there. Is there a lot with Manglish there?

This post has been edited by tata88: Jan 17 2010, 10:07 PM

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