Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
126 Pages « < 23 24 25 26 27 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Stock Market V18, Stock Market Chit Chat

views
     
cherroy
post Nov 24 2008, 09:43 AM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
Staff
25,802 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 23 2008, 11:57 PM)
Wa.. sure onot? In bearish market.. most blue chips also drop kaw kaw...due to fear sentiments.
- Public Bank 13/5/08 at RM 12.00 .. now how much? RM 7.85. 
- IOICORP 15/1/08 at RM 8.06 now RM2.94,  lowest ? RM 2.08
- Resort 11/1/08 at RM 4.26 now RM 2.58, lowest RM 2.16

There are more other blue chip counters tat drop close or more than 50% already.
Those beginners who bought blue chips counter at early/mid of this year also get hit badly....

My remiser told me during bear market all stock will get hit, bluechip or penny stocks alll get beaten down.
Those stocks that rise too high over its fair value will get hit harder. Those stock tat close to its fair value
will drop lesser.

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers, icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88
*
Yup, when bearish time, most are down together.

But don't forget Pbb rose from Rm2 - RM3 to now currently. So a drop from Rm12.00 to Rm8.00 is not a disastrous for those longer term investors who bought many many years back. Not to forget in between, its dividend is more and almost double FD interest rate over the years.

IOI from Rm1.+ to RM8.00, which my view is it overshoot at the high side, so dropping 50% is not a disastrous for those long term investors which bought years back. IOI is really a magnificient performer recent years, so just like people said, went too high, so down also sharp.

Resort from RM1.+ to now.

Agree on the part of getting blue chips won't able to save yourself from loss either, just those generally those are fundamental sound, which when good time come back, it has ability to rise back. But for some potato chips, some may not able to get through the difficult period.

Fair value is a subjective matter and relativity, IOI fair value can be Rm2.00, while abc stock fair value can be RM 0.05.
So if IOI share being split 1:10, then its fair value become RM0.20. But people will see RM0.20 is cheaper than Rm2.00. But in the end of the day, it is still the same.

Not mean penny stocks won't be a good target or not, just share splitting, company can make their share become low, but it doesn't change the fundamental issue of it.

My main point is whether the share is RM0.50, or Rm5.00, or Rm50.00, it doesn't tell any clue whether it is cheap or not.
A share of RM0.50, its earning is Rm0.05, so PER at 10x. B share of Rm50.00, its earning is Rm5.00, so in term of valuation or fair value, they are the same.

Just my 2 cents.


JimJimKC
post Nov 24 2008, 09:50 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
162 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
From: Penang
market is waiting for BNM news on rate cut?
SUSgogo2
post Nov 24 2008, 09:50 AM

gogo2
********
All Stars
18,672 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


today could be boring day.... not crash...
viper88
post Nov 24 2008, 09:52 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,359 posts

Joined: Apr 2006


I grab another 41000 units at 0.79 this morning. tongue.gif

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers, icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88

QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 24 2008, 09:22 AM)
I cannot tahan ady.... just grabbed Zelan at 0.785.....

Actually I put 0.790 but they match at 0.785  rclxms.gif
*
kmarc
post Nov 24 2008, 09:55 AM

The future is here - Cryptocurrencies!
Group Icon
Elite
14,576 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Sarawak



QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:52 AM)
I grab another 41000 units at 0.79 this morning.  tongue.gif

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers, icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88
*
thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

I don't have so much bullets.... have to save some for the bear market..... blush.gif
SKY 1809
post Nov 24 2008, 09:55 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
23,851 posts

Joined: Dec 2006


QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:52 AM)
I grab another 41000 units at 0.79 this morning.  tongue.gif

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers, icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88
*
Why are you not buying KNM brows.gif
SUSgogo2
post Nov 24 2008, 09:56 AM

gogo2
********
All Stars
18,672 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


congratulations to both Zelan buyer..... but no dividend for you guys tongue.gif
sampoo
post Nov 24 2008, 09:57 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
453 posts

Joined: Nov 2008
today market is worse, if not because of maybank and tenaga. vmad.gif
viper88
post Nov 24 2008, 09:58 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,359 posts

Joined: Apr 2006


Well, i bought it nicely before it ex-div after of doing some research n monitor its price support.
Dividen + oversold + good financial result + strong buyback support for big shareholders.
I feel its chances to get profit is higher so i go for it.

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers. icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 24 2008, 08:59 AM)
wow, I miss Zelan. SHould have bought it. Some more got dividend. That's why, no one can predict share market... laugh.gif its a gamble...
*
mo_meng
post Nov 24 2008, 10:00 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,646 posts

Joined: Oct 2008


so viper izit good to enter now?
sharesa
post Nov 24 2008, 10:04 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,587 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: KL


QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:58 AM)
Well, i bought it nicely before it ex-div after of doing some research n monitor its price support.
Dividen + oversold + good financial result + strong buyback support for big shareholders.
I feel its chances to get profit is higher so i go for it.

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers. icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88
*
But Viper, how come you so lucky to get @ 0.79 cum-div? Last week low was 79.5, maybe my monitor info incorrect.
Today, I thought of entering, but lowest was already@ 0.78 ex-div
viper88
post Nov 24 2008, 10:04 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,359 posts

Joined: Apr 2006


Heavy foreign shareholder dumping it last time..
Oil price still drop low...

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers, icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:55 AM)
Why are you not buying KNM  brows.gif
*
kmarc
post Nov 24 2008, 10:07 AM

The future is here - Cryptocurrencies!
Group Icon
Elite
14,576 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Sarawak



QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:58 AM)
Well, i bought it nicely before it ex-div after of doing some research n monitor its price support.
Dividen + oversold + good financial result + strong buyback support for big shareholders.
I feel its chances to get profit is higher so i go for it.

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers. icon_rolleyes.gif
v_viper88
*
What is your plans for the Zelan shares? Keep for long term or sell off if value increase? If sell off, what is your target price? hmm.gif
viper88
post Nov 24 2008, 10:07 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,359 posts

Joined: Apr 2006


I bought Friday last day bfr ex dividen at 0.805 ...
today buy summore at 0.79.

So i got both dividen + profit . rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:56 AM)
congratulations to both Zelan buyer..... but no dividend for you guys tongue.gif
*
This post has been edited by viper88: Nov 24 2008, 10:07 AM
harrychoo
post Nov 24 2008, 10:07 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,589 posts

Joined: Mar 2005
From: Bolehland


KNM financial report still ok right? EPS 9.0 last quarter.

Plan to hold it a bit longer
SUSgogo2
post Nov 24 2008, 10:08 AM

gogo2
********
All Stars
18,672 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


viper is one lucky guy. I think Zelan cannot drop anymore.... you've bought at the lowest point. Congratulation!!!
viper88
post Nov 24 2008, 10:09 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,359 posts

Joined: Apr 2006


0.805 last friday
0.79 this morning around 9am+

QUOTE(sharesa @ Nov 24 2008, 10:04 AM)
But Viper, how come you so lucky to get @ 0.79 cum-div? Last week low was 79.5, maybe my monitor info incorrect.
Today, I thought of entering, but lowest was already@ 0.78 ex-div
*
sharesa
post Nov 24 2008, 10:09 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,587 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: KL


QUOTE(viper88 @ Nov 24 2008, 10:07 AM)
I bought Friday last day bfr ex dividen at 0.805 ...
today buy summore at 0.79. 

So i got both dividen + profit .  rclxm9.gif
*
how lucky you! tongue.gif

This post has been edited by sharesa: Nov 24 2008, 10:11 AM
eltaria
post Nov 24 2008, 10:10 AM

GO GO GO
******
Senior Member
1,040 posts

Joined: Apr 2005


I got some zelan at 0.805 too tongue.gif
Total average of 0.826 with dividends

Go zelan Go!
fergie1100
post Nov 24 2008, 10:11 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,345 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
is Japan having holiday today?

126 Pages « < 23 24 25 26 27 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0286sec    0.28    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 6th December 2025 - 11:39 AM