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post Nov 19 2008, 04:07 PM, updated 18y ago

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im kinda newbie on guitar... only know 1 or 2 songs...

im looking a suggestion for guitar (only Guitar) that suitable playing metal... wanna learn playing guitar... haha

price range RM1000 below.... any suggestion?
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post Nov 19 2008, 05:09 PM

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Well, with that budget its best you go for an axe without a trem. Hardtail Ibanez guitars would be good. Check out the RG321MH. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 19 2008, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(fatboythin @ Nov 19 2008, 05:09 PM)
Well, with that budget its best you go for an axe without a trem. Hardtail Ibanez guitars would be good. Check out the RG321MH. biggrin.gif
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that would only cost me below RM1000? cool! how bout with trem? how much will it cost? ... that guitar suit for metal genre?....

any other suggestion, i hope i can make a wide choices of guitar...?

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post Nov 19 2008, 05:22 PM

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Guitars under 1k usually have god-awful trems. So get a hard-tail or string thru option.
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post Nov 19 2008, 05:38 PM

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how much u can get with guitar + good trems? the price increase by how much?

thos hard tail/string thru can get with under 1k? what model and manufacturer u recommend?
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post Nov 19 2008, 05:58 PM

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tonezone in damansara perdana having a closedown sale

gita for metal, ibanez, LTD also very cheap
u can cramp in sum accesories, with the budget too
sale til end of nov
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post Nov 19 2008, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(crazychris @ Nov 19 2008, 05:58 PM)
tonezone in damansara perdana having a closedown sale

gita for metal, ibanez, LTD also very cheap
u can cramp in sum accesories, with the budget too
sale til end of nov
come asap
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end of nov? whoa... i might reach there in time...hope so! SPM end 27....

some accsory under budget? cool!!
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post Nov 19 2008, 06:18 PM

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Also, what amp are you going to use?
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post Nov 19 2008, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 19 2008, 06:18 PM)
Also, what amp are you going to use?
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im just a newbie... so i plan to get a good guitar...cause guitar can last... AMP im using is just a home amplifier... just for me to training... and of course multi efx..... later on i slowly change to other good stuff...
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post Nov 19 2008, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Nov 19 2008, 06:25 PM)
im just a newbie... so i plan to get a good guitar...cause guitar can last... AMP im using is just a home amplifier... just for me to training... and of course multi efx.....  later on i slowly change to other good stuff...
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mate..sounds like Roland Microcube for me ...

as for guitar ..hmmm....i think you should just get a BC RICH Bronze warlock lah ..my take is looks is really important for you smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2008, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(gapnap @ Nov 19 2008, 06:28 PM)
mate..sounds like Roland Microcube for me ...

as for guitar ..hmmm....i think you should just get a BC RICH Bronze warlock lah ..my take is looks is really important for you smile.gif
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dang...some nice guitar body.... * hey...u insulting metal band!..hahahaha.....joking.. metal not all about look... they can really shreds guitar...haha... joking only....* how bout the price for the guitar..

how much is the price for roland microcube?
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Nov 19 2008, 06:31 PM)
dang...some nice guitar body.... * hey...u insulting metal band!..hahahaha.....joking.. metal not all about look... they can really shreds guitar...haha... joking only....* how bout the price for the guitar..

how much is the price for roland microcube?
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pm deadeye ..

not sure about Warlock wei ..i think below 1k kua .
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:32 PM

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Ibanez or Jackson are good metal genre guitars. If you got money you can ask them order Schecter, the guitar that A7X uses. i'm still in love with the sound. But below 1000, you should be able to find one but like they say la trem prob. Sometimes fret colour come out, like my BC Rich Warlock. Thats why i hardly use.
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:46 PM

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ESP LTD. u can get it less than rm$1k but not at guitar collection at davies in singapore. ;p \m/
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post Nov 19 2008, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(gapnap @ Nov 19 2008, 06:28 PM)
mate..sounds like Roland Microcube for me ...

as for guitar ..hmmm....i think you should just get a BC RICH Bronze warlock lah ..my take is looks is really important for you smile.gif
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Woah, 1st time I hear people recommend BC Rich tongue.gif

IMO, I support RG321MH.
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:07 PM

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use ibanez
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Nov 19 2008, 07:32 PM)
Ibanez or Jackson are good metal genre guitars. If you got money you can ask them order Schecter, the guitar that A7X uses. i'm still in love with the sound. But below 1000, you should be able to find one but like they say la trem prob. Sometimes fret colour come out, like my BC Rich Warlock. Thats why i hardly use.
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jackson can get 1k below ka?

QUOTE(lordie @ Nov 19 2008, 07:46 PM)
ESP LTD. u can get it less than rm$1k but not at guitar collection at davies in singapore. ;p \m/
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with trem?

QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Nov 19 2008, 08:44 PM)
Woah, 1st time I hear people recommend BC Rich tongue.gif

IMO, I support RG321MH.
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RG321MH is in my list now...

QUOTE(zariqcools @ Nov 19 2008, 09:07 PM)
use ibanez
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alot ppl rcomend ibanez and ESP LTD...so i will check both...
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:46 PM

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China made...can
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:48 PM

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China made...can
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ayyoh...china made quality reduced... life span also reduced... lol....
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:11 PM

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Also, plugging into your home amplifier might end up destroying it. Plus, you won't get any distortion sounds out of that tongue.gif

Better use RM650 for the guitar, and another RM350 for the Microcube amplifier.
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 19 2008, 10:11 PM)
Also, plugging into your home amplifier might end up destroying it. Plus, you won't get any distortion sounds out of that tongue.gif

Better use RM650 for the guitar, and another RM350 for the Microcube amplifier.
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haha...i thought about the distortion...but well..have to sacrifice awhile.... i aim for the guitar 1st...later on, the amplifier... .. 1k is for the guitar budget alone... RM 350 for amp is still manageable...

but is it really can destroy my home amp? my amp is for the big speaker bout 1m height...
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post Nov 19 2008, 11:02 PM

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it depends lor, buy guitar w/o Dist/OD for me is really bored.
But its another case if u like clean sound =)

*OD = over drive
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post Nov 19 2008, 11:10 PM

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If you want to play metal, how can you play it without distortion?
That alone doesn't make sense.
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post Nov 20 2008, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 19 2008, 05:22 PM)
Guitars under 1k usually have god-awful trems. So get a hard-tail or string thru option.
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meaning anything above 1k...the trem can be trusted?
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post Nov 20 2008, 01:47 AM

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Again, it depends on the trem. The Ibanez Edge III trem is quite bad, but if you don't abuse it THAT much, it's pretty decent. Again, personal preference.
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 19 2008, 11:10 PM)
If you want to play metal, how can you play it without distortion?
That alone doesn't make sense.
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yea, just like eating bread w/o jam , butter or any taste.
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post Nov 20 2008, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Nov 19 2008, 10:15 PM)
haha...i thought about the distortion...but well..have to sacrifice awhile.... i aim for the guitar 1st...later on, the amplifier... .. 1k is for the guitar budget alone... RM 350 for amp is still manageable...

but is it really can destroy my home amp? my amp is for the big speaker bout 1m height...
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nope wrong plan. here's a better plan

step1: get a good guitar. as the others, i'd recommend a fixed-bridge ibanez (good resell value)
step2: get a good budget MFX unit like the G1X
step3: use headphone for practice for a while
step4: get a good practice amp once you have the budget (15w recommended)
step5: ?????
step6: PROFIT!!!!!
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post Nov 20 2008, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 19 2008, 11:10 PM)
If you want to play metal, how can you play it without distortion?
That alone doesn't make sense.
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+1, metal is all abt distortion man,
for me, id say, get a decent practice amp around 100 - 200 w/o fx of cos,
and then get some pretty mean metal distortion pedal to couple with it,
and there u have it instant metal setup, u wont need all those modulation and delay to play metal,
forget mfx, just my 2cent, smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 02:56 PM

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Metal without distortion? Closest you'll get is Black Sabbath. But they do have overdrive though.
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metal w/o distortion is black sabbath?
why is that?
i think they still call it british distortion bcos iommi use laney's amp..

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post Nov 20 2008, 04:18 PM

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ok2... i get 1k guitar...and some budget for amp and multifx...

i know the distortion is important...haha.. without like slow rock lol....

what amp good for practice and for budget cost?


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post Nov 20 2008, 04:36 PM

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the lowest you can get is the microcube 10. biggrin.gif
though the sound is pretty numb for me
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post Nov 20 2008, 04:39 PM

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i was hoping to get a metal guitar for 1k... and the budget is only for the guitar.... for the amp and multifx i can manage it...

how much is the micro cube?
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post Nov 20 2008, 05:05 PM

 
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microcube will cost you about rm380 if i recall correctly
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post Nov 20 2008, 05:09 PM

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RM 380 is still ok...

how bout ur suggestion for metal guitar budget 1k and below...?
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i own an ibanez 321mh b4..use it through a roland microcube...can get pretty decent distortion sound out of it..best budget combo lol....
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post Nov 20 2008, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Nov 20 2008, 05:09 PM)
RM 380 is still ok...

how bout ur suggestion for metal guitar budget 1k and below...?
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deadeye sells em at RM330
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post Nov 20 2008, 05:51 PM

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so ibanez RG321MH is good for metal genre... put micro cube than ok? how bout the ESP? how much it cost?
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Don't get LTDs (there are NO ESPs that cheap!) below the 1k mark, most of them have terrible quality for the price. And why do you want a distortion pedal so much? Get the Microcube, it already has an onboard modeller for distortion which sounds decent enough. Pair the Microcube with the RG321MH and you cant go wrong. Then set aside the money you wanted to buy a distortion pedal with and save up for a better guitar+amp for the future.
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i juz wanna get multi effx bcoz i wanna effect that can do light touch shredding.... hehe.. juz wanna trashing out...

and the ESP below 1k not good? ok then...

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and the ESP below 1k not good? ok then...
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there are no ESPs that cheap.. unless its a fake? tongue.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 08:01 PM

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of course...anything fake... is cheap...hahaha... ibanez is great for metal i guess...
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post Nov 21 2008, 02:55 AM

 
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well the microcube is a modeller amp, and has a few effects to play with. it doesn't sound good with pedals for me, so i just use the onboard distortion which is already killer for a practice amp
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owh... so the micro cube already hav some effx in it? great! RM350+- for micro cube... that cool......

what efx the micro cube hav?

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lets see... chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, delay and reverb
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post Nov 21 2008, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Nov 21 2008, 02:12 PM)
lets see... chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, delay and reverb
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well good enough for me.. i guess that delay is good for playing fast light touch shreds?

haha...

how much for the cable and straps?
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A Decent Cable + Strap should be around RM100, Rm50 each.....
Don't forget a tuner as well...... should set you back around RM50 as well.
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post Nov 21 2008, 03:31 PM

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cable + straps = rm 50/100.... tuner RM 50... that dang exp tuner...

that tonezone still open ka? end nov, what date/time... haha...
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QUOTE(fatboythin @ Nov 20 2008, 06:03 PM)
Don't get LTDs (there are NO ESPs that cheap!) below the 1k mark, most of them have terrible quality for the price. And why do you want a distortion pedal so much? Get the Microcube, it already has an onboard modeller for distortion which sounds decent enough. Pair the Microcube with the RG321MH and you cant go wrong. Then set aside the money you wanted to buy a distortion pedal with and save up for a better guitar+amp for the future.
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^^^^This
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RG321MH hav active pickups ka? all RG32MH hav active pickups?


i saw most metal guitarist use active pickups... shud get with active pickups ka?
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Errrr..... a set of EMG Actives already costs RM700....... That's just the pickups ALONE.
And the Ibanez RG321MH uses passive pickups.
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QUOTE(nohal @ Nov 21 2008, 06:39 PM)
RG321MH hav active pickups ka? all RG32MH hav active pickups?
i saw most metal guitarist use active pickups... shud get with active pickups ka?
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Why are you so determined to get a guitar for metal? Can't you just buy a strat and an amp for about RM1000.
Since you will probably play other styles of instruments as well.
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hi i got gibson replicas for sale, price and guitar make good guitar for advance and entry players. check it out at libertinsounds.blogspot.com
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post Nov 21 2008, 07:53 PM

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active pickups RM700 alone!! hah.. no thx!...

nvm la.. i juz get RG321MH...


juz asking... RG321EX.. how much is it? asking only.. dun get angry..hehe!

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QUOTE(nohal @ Nov 21 2008, 07:53 PM)
active pickups RM700 alone!! hah.. no thx!...

nvm la.. i juz get RG321MH...
juz asking... RG321EX.. how much is it? asking only.. dun get angry..hehe!
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wow, you really like to be spoon-fed, huh? you do know that you can use the internet to find more info yourself, don't you?
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wow, you really like to be spoon-fed, huh? you do know that you can use the internet to find more info yourself, don't you?
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calm down... i search throughout the internet already... search at google... it juz popup reviews and 2nd hand guitar.. sometimes price in other currency... i juz wanna know the recent price in malaysia...

i search RG321EX.. hard to find result... in lowyat got 1 result for 2nd hand... i juz wanna know the price for new...
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owh.. ok... thx... mod.. i think i get info already.. thx all...

i can close this thread by my self rite?

thx again!

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