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TSevangelion
post Nov 26 2008, 12:00 AM

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Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-
1) open pod Simota air filter
2) double layer of break pump
3) normal brand spark plug cable
4) add E-Power (voltage stabilization) for spark plug
5) side gapped oem spark plug
6) add similiar product as micro compressor
7) add 2 pcs of cyclone
8) 4-2-1, middle box and S-flow muffler
9) CAI hose

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is Proton Wira 1.5 EFI Year 2005.
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post Nov 26 2008, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 26 2008, 12:00 AM)
Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-
1) open pod Simota air filter
2) double layer of break pump
3) normal brand spark plug cable
4) add E-Power (voltage stabilization) for spark plug
5) side gapped oem spark plug
6) add similiar product as micro compressor
7) add 2 pcs of cyclone
8) 4-2-1, middle box and S-flow muffler
9) CAI hose

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is Proton Wira 1.5 EFI Year 2005.
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dun need tuning... svdo ecu will auto recalibrate because it is a self-learning ecu... it will adapt to the changes made and adapt to ur driving style...
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post Nov 26 2008, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 25 2008, 09:27 PM)
the mech trying to con ur money... for no reason do so big repair... overhaul (no matter top or full), workshop can earn alot from there.....

if ur car aint damaged, dont repair it.... smile.gif
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aik..like tat also can.. laugh.gif notworthy.gif so is ok that my fren ride stick to 160??scare that the engine is already damage and if u repair..is like those 3rd stage cancer..cannot be repair.. laugh.gif and my fren dun mind sticking to 160 all the time..just that he scare that there is some internal damage that we cannot see or feel..
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post Nov 26 2008, 11:45 AM

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save the money and remain 160km/h ler
Its good enough, tell your friend, cherish his life more, and save the money

Recession nowadays, save money
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post Nov 26 2008, 12:50 PM

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Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-

1) open pod cap ayam air filter
2) grounding cable
3) zmax volt stab
4) add similiar product as micro compressor
5) 4-1 header, stock middle box and S-flow muffler

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is normal campro persona 1st gen (no iafm no cps)
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post Nov 26 2008, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(shareal @ Nov 26 2008, 12:50 PM)
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Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-

1) open pod cap ayam air filter
2) grounding cable
3) zmax volt stab
4) add similiar product as micro compressor
5) 4-1 header, stock middle box and S-flow muffler

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is normal campro persona 1st gen (no iafm no cps)
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dun need tuning... campro also uses siemens vdo... also self-learning ecu... will auto calibrate itself according to changes u've done to suit ur driving style....

btw, microcompressor is useless.... especially when u have a self-learning ecu such as svdo..... doh.gif
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post Nov 28 2008, 10:23 PM

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Hi Something DIY.....perhaps can remove the Open POD Air Filter pipe and the filter, at the throttle body there terus use cable tie to tie the HKS filter form only......

tried on my wira 1.5, better kick then piping Open POD filter.....

can give a try
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post Nov 28 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(leecheeyau @ Nov 28 2008, 10:23 PM)
Hi Something DIY.....perhaps can remove the Open POD Air Filter pipe and the filter, at the throttle body there terus use cable tie to tie the HKS filter form only......

tried on my wira 1.5, better kick then piping Open POD filter.....

can give a try
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of coz mah.... high revs will be damn syok.... but low rpm low speed suffer lor...

the theory still applies.... its all about flow efficiency... not alwiz da case bigger is better...
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post Nov 30 2008, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2008, 07:36 PM)
Currently I drive Pronton Wira 1.5 Year 2005. I would like to know the way how to increase performace.

Isn't got some additional stuff or component to increase the car horse power performace?
Got any way to modify engine or gear box to increase the car horse power performace?
Please inform the shop name, address and telephone (in Johore area)

Please introduce and advise to me........... thanks

Please refer to my car engine photo as your reference.
1) original engine and gear box
2) add E-Power for stabil voltage of spark plug
3) Micro Compresor
4) Simota open pod air filter
5) Normal brand of spark plug cable
6) NGK G-Power spark plug
7) 4-2-1 type extractor, normal brand of midbox, Exhaust piping 1.7" & s-flow type muffler
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Bro, i have the same problems with you.
Same wira 1.5 GLI.

No power at all and petrol consuming.
City drive, slow drive. 40litle can go 400 km\h only.

Pick up is suck, felt the car very heavy, hand brake release or not releae as the same.

Open port and drop in have huge different?
After mod this air filter will more fuel consuming?

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post Nov 30 2008, 12:49 PM

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moding for sure will drain more fuel ...
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post Nov 30 2008, 01:19 PM

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i think of people here who mod open pod neglect the fact that it needs heat shield
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post Nov 30 2008, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(cwd8769 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:44 PM)
Bro, i have the same problems with you.
Same wira 1.5 GLI.

No power at all and petrol consuming.
City drive, slow drive. 40litle can go 400 km\h only.

Pick up is suck, felt the car very heavy, hand brake release or not releae as the same.

Open port and drop in have huge different?
After mod this air filter will more fuel consuming?

Pls advice notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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i advice use drop-in air filter.... better flow air filter suppose to increase performance and reduce fc abit.... because it has higher airflow and do not clog up so easily.... hence u get good amount of airflow, which helps ur engine breathe...

but one thing to remember, prevent it from sucking hot air around ur engine bay excessively... datz why i recommend drop in air filter for beginners because it is plug and play, no hassle...

if u insist in using open port, make sure u make a functionable heatshield and cold air intake for it...

QUOTE(BrotherHoe @ Nov 30 2008, 12:49 PM)
moding for sure will drain more fuel ...
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not necessary... i previously using open port, gained better fc....

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 01:19 PM)
i think of people here who mod open pod neglect the fact that it needs heat shield
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post Nov 30 2008, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 30 2008, 01:27 PM)
i advice use drop-in air filter.... better flow air filter suppose to increase performance and reduce fc abit.... because it has higher airflow and do not clog up so easily.... hence u get good amount of airflow, which helps ur engine breathe...

but one thing to remember, prevent it from sucking hot air around ur engine bay excessively... datz why i recommend drop in air filter for beginners because it is plug and play, no hassle...

if u insist in using open port, make sure u make a functionable heatshield and cold air intake for it...
not necessary... i previously using open port, gained better fc....
agree
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Normally for p.wira 2004 1.5GLI can up for how fast?
40litle can go for how many KM?

I have change the center box and muffler.
But i found that the car still very heavy.

I will change 13" rim to 15" next weeks.
See can more heavy or not sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Normally wira increase performance and save flue is change center box and muffler. right?
Branded air filter like KNN, HKS and Apexi's is get big different compare with which common brand?

Low power car like my wira will take effect if i installed open port air filter?
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post Nov 30 2008, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(cwd8769 @ Nov 30 2008, 02:55 PM)
Normally for p.wira 2004 1.5GLI can up for how fast?
40litle can go for how many KM?

I have change the center box and muffler.
But i found that the car still very heavy.

I will change 13" rim to 15" next weeks.
See can more heavy or not sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Normally wira increase performance and save flue is change center box and muffler. right?
Branded air filter like KNN, HKS and Apexi's is get big different compare with which common brand?

Low power car like my wira will take effect if i installed open port air filter?
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what makes u think changing centerbox and muffler will make the car lighter doh.gif
changing to 15" will futher kill ur FC
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post Nov 30 2008, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(cwd8769 @ Nov 30 2008, 02:55 PM)
Normally for p.wira 2004 1.5GLI can up for how fast?
40litle can go for how many KM?

I have change the center box and muffler.
But i found that the car still very heavy.

I will change 13" rim to 15" next weeks.
See can more heavy or not sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Normally wira increase performance and save flue is change center box and muffler. right?
Branded air filter like KNN, HKS and Apexi's is get big different compare with which common brand?

Low power car like my wira will take effect if i installed open port air filter?
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ur car manual or auto tranny??...

i've seen wira 1.5 habis meter (180kmh) before....

normal drive, 40L can average 4xx km on ur tripmeter..... of coz dats depend on ur driving style...

if u wanna increase performance, dont think about saving fuel so much.... if u wanna save fuel, dont start modding ur car... besides, we must also see what kinda modification u do to ur car... for example, exhaust pipe, not necessary the bigger the better....

i would strongly suggest u to use "branded" air filters such as K&N (not KNN) or apexi... at least the performance gain is assured.... i've heard enough terrifying stories people using cheapskate filters that broke down or being sucked into the engine.... doh.gif

low power engine also can modify... not necessary must be nice car only can modify.... modifying scene has no car types barrier....

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:07 PM)
what makes u think changing centerbox and muffler will make the car lighter doh.gif
changing to 15" will futher kill ur FC
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depends what kinda 15" rim he use lor...
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post Nov 30 2008, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:44 PM)
ur car manual or auto tranny??...

i've seen wira 1.5 habis meter (180kmh) before....

normal drive, 40L can average 4xx km on ur tripmeter..... of coz dats depend on ur driving style...

if u wanna increase performance, dont think about saving fuel so much.... if u wanna save fuel, dont start modding ur car... besides, we must also see what kinda modification u do to ur car... for example, exhaust pipe, not necessary the bigger the better....

i would strongly suggest u to use "branded" air filters such as K&N (not KNN) or apexi... at least the performance gain is assured.... i've heard enough terrifying stories people using cheapskate filters that broke down or being sucked into the engine.... doh.gif

low power engine also can modify... not necessary must be nice car only can modify.... modifying scene has no car types barrier....
depends what kinda 15" rim he use lor...
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even he use the lightweight rim, that doesnt defeat the fact that the rim is wider and bigger.. u still ned to overcome friction so that the car moves
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:48 PM)
even he use the lightweight rim, that doesnt defeat the fact that the rim is wider and bigger.. u still ned to overcome friction so that the car moves
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how much extra rolling friction he will need to overcome if he upgrade from 175 tyres to 195 tyres??...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:56 PM)
how much extra rolling friction he will need to overcome if he upgrade from 175 tyres to 195 tyres??...
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well, u tell me, my math sux lolz..
anyway, previously using 185/15.. after the tyre end its life, i changed to 195/15.. can feel the drag definitely nod.gif
whats more 13" if ori proton is using 165/13 and whether if he can afford a true blue lightweight rim is still a question
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 11:17 PM)
well, u tell me, my math sux lolz..
anyway, previously using 185/15.. after the tyre end its life, i changed to 195/15.. can feel the drag definitely nod.gif
whats more 13" if ori proton is using 165/13 and whether if he can afford a true blue lightweight rim is still a question
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u mentioned about da disadvantage mah... u explain more about it lor.... doh.gif

how come i switch from 195 to 185 cannot feel any difference??... hmm.gif

is ur 185 and 195 similar tyre model??...

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