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Any Automotive Student or working persons here, Want your advice on automotive carrear
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TSSleeplessEyes
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Nov 3 2008, 01:26 PM, updated 18y ago
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Any Automotive student here?
Or anyone working in the Automotive sector?
I am a Diploma student, taking up City & Guilds Diploma in Automotive Engineering, together I already graduated with the usual MLVK Automotive course.
What I want to know what field I can take up in near future, besides just being a mechanic?
It's because I tried to find the carreer path for Automotive, but I still can't get any clear picture.
I've already posted my answers in Education Essentials and search through Jobs & Careers section, but still dont have a clear picture.
This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Nov 3 2008, 01:29 PM
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radmaszeal
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Nov 3 2008, 01:53 PM
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if u wanna become something other than a mechanic, u should take a degree. look for places that offer degrees in automotive engineering. in malaysia not many offer it, mostly IPTAs only. if got cash go UK. quite common.
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e30
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Nov 3 2008, 02:07 PM
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you should add on a management/it diploma.. then you can progress to management level..
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TSSleeplessEyes
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Nov 3 2008, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(e30 @ Nov 3 2008, 02:07 PM) you should add on a management/it diploma.. then you can progress to management level.. Add on? IT Diploma? Okey,first time hear this one, you got my attention..how to do just that? This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Nov 3 2008, 02:16 PM
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SaltyBean
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Nov 3 2008, 02:37 PM
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i know a guy who did his degree in germany, loaded fellow! i think he was attachd 2 a famous german automaker, luki guy.
i suggest u work as a mechanic; not long term, for work experience. no point of just studyx2... i think there are internship programmes from local auto companies, that is a good start 2 ur automotive career. if ya are good, they sure hire u1, from that point u can go further up till management level or any level of ur choice.
my 1cent opinion
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rkjsoo
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Nov 3 2008, 02:39 PM
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maybe go to those leading company and look for a vacancy first as you can get more experience
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e30
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Nov 3 2008, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Nov 3 2008, 02:16 PM) Add on? IT Diploma? Okey,first time hear this one, you got my attention..how to do just that?  sorry, i dont mean diploma. i meant after you get your diploma, you can either work first, or continue to pursue a degree with an additional management module. refer to this . its just an example though, as i'm not sure if your institution offers this option. in order to move up to management rank, i think you will need some sort of qualifications that includes management. but apart from that, experience is vital too. so you can work first as a mechanic to gain experience first and perhaps later on look to study part time if you wanna get promoted. if not, i think it'll be hard to be a supervisor or manger without the necessary qualifications.
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anakmelayu
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Nov 3 2008, 05:01 PM
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basically the breakdown in automotive industry (service center) 1) mlvk cert- technician /pro tech + if u completed the advance course from auto company i.e toyota u can jump to be team leader/foremanhttp://malaysia.recruit.net/search.html?qu...evance&pageNo=02) diploma- service advisor/sales advisor/controller + executive level, if u built a good rapport with customer/manager (kipas) example: http://malaysia.recruit.net/search.html?qu...tive)&location=3)deg- engineer (service center/ assy plant), executive level + more 5 years exp & good profile can be manager lah This post has been edited by anakmelayu: Nov 3 2008, 05:02 PM
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SUStululu
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Nov 3 2008, 05:18 PM
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u cant even spell career properly
better go become road side hawker
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sordanny
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Nov 3 2008, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Nov 3 2008, 01:26 PM) Any Automotive student here? Or anyone working in the Automotive sector? I am a Diploma student, taking up City & Guilds Diploma in Automotive Engineering, together I already graduated with the usual MLVK Automotive course. What I want to know what field I can take up in near future, besides just being a mechanic? It's because I tried to find the carreer path for Automotive, but I still can't get any clear picture. I've already posted my answers in Education Essentials and search through Jobs & Careers section, but still dont have a clear picture. U can become the first honest SA!!!! But well SA's are all SOB's for me
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e30
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Nov 3 2008, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(tululu @ Nov 3 2008, 05:18 PM) u cant even spell career properly better go become road side hawker there's no reason for you to be that rude.. Added on November 3, 2008, 8:08 pmyea TS, basically with a diploma you can be a service advisor. the role of this position is you attend to the customer and ask what prob they're facing, then you check the car and hand over the job to the mechanic to fix it.. basically you'll be dealing more with the customers and less the car compared to a mechanic.. This post has been edited by e30: Nov 3 2008, 08:08 PM
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EyraYus
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Nov 3 2008, 08:10 PM
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I`m also Automotive Student
Alternative career path other then being a mechanic :
Service Advisor Teacher (Automotive of course..)
And you have the Supervisory Skill to right? If yes you can try your luck being a supervisor...of course its kinda hard...
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coldfusionpower
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Nov 3 2008, 08:20 PM
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i have supervisory skills ... but work at office .. headache man ..too many papers .. LOL
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singchaii
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Nov 3 2008, 08:40 PM
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I'm a automotive student and working at workshop for training. Study in automotive, not only a mechanic. Many career you can done but make sure it related with car.
Here is the career.. Copy from my college website Automotive Service Technician Diagnostic Technician / Specialist Technical Advisor Motorsports Technician Service Advisor / Consultant Service Manager Spare Parts Executive / Manager Workshop Owner / Operator After-sales Manager Insurance Claim Assessor Collision Estimator Warranty Executive / Manager Vehicle Accessories Vehicle Component Supplier / Manufacturer
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EyraYus
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Nov 3 2008, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 3 2008, 08:40 PM) I'm a automotive student and working at workshop for training. Study in automotive, not only a mechanic. Many career you can done but make sure it related with car. Here is the career.. Copy from my college website Automotive Service Technician Diagnostic Technician / Specialist Technical Advisor Motorsports Technician Service Advisor / Consultant Service Manager Spare Parts Executive / Manager Workshop Owner / Operator After-sales Manager Insurance Claim Assessor Collision Estimator Warranty Executive / Manager Vehicle Accessories Vehicle Component Supplier / Manufacturer nice list
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LanEVOchris
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Nov 3 2008, 08:46 PM
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thats why TOC is Talk Only Cock
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TSSleeplessEyes
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Nov 4 2008, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(SaltyBean @ Nov 3 2008, 02:37 PM) i know a guy who did his degree in germany, loaded fellow! i think he was attachd 2 a famous german automaker, luki guy. i suggest u work as a mechanic; not long term, for work experience. no point of just studyx2... i think there are internship programmes from local auto companies, that is a good start 2 ur automotive career. if ya are good, they sure hire u1, from that point u can go further up till management level or any level of ur choice. my 1cent opinion Sorry for the late reply. There is Internship now at UMW TOYOTA, labelled Interip for Engineering Students
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MohdRidhwan
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Nov 4 2008, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(LanEVOchris @ Nov 3 2008, 08:46 PM) thats why TOC is Talk Only Cock Yes! Tempat Orang Clubbing Tempat Orang Cacat but hey.The college is improving.Just lack of trainers that can speak english with a good accent.They say German experience or whatever crap it is, they're lying.70% of the trainers are from Phillipines. They're recruiting some locals trainer as well. The equipments are really good but lack of tools.So now they decided to ""give" the student some SATA tools(That included in the fees) Try to continue to degree, you'll have a better worker options. I'll be graduating from TOC next year.
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EyraYus
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Nov 4 2008, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(MohdRidhwan @ Nov 4 2008, 09:42 PM) Yes! Tempat Orang Clubbing Tempat Orang Cacat but hey.The college is improving.Just lack of trainers that can speak english with a good accent.They say German experience or whatever crap it is, they're lying.70% of the trainers are from Phillipines. They're recruiting some locals trainer as well. The equipments are really good but lack of tools.So now they decided to ""give" the student some SATA tools(That included in the fees) Try to continue to degree, you'll have a better worker options. I'll be graduating from TOC next year.  TOC..quite a big name eh in the automotive study..my college quite small but they are improving.. can say that my batch are the worse...got lot of problem with tools and equipment...how about u having to training with rusty old car  quite scary... but they are improving due to our complaints (at one point we even reported it to the MLVK) I might continue study on Lvl 4 and 5 next year (final exam next month...auto box..quite easy) BUT I dont think I will get a carrier in automotive... my dad want me to work with him
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Daniel89
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Nov 4 2008, 10:10 PM
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TOC= TALK ONLY COCK OR TIPU ORANG COLLEGE  !
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coldfusionpower
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Nov 4 2008, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Nov 4 2008, 11:05 PM) TOC..quite a big name eh in the automotive study..my college quite small but they are improving.. can say that my batch are the worse...got lot of problem with tools and equipment...how about u having to training with rusty old car  quite scary... but they are improving due to our complaints (at one point we even reported it to the MLVK) I might continue study on Lvl 4 and 5 next year (final exam next month...auto box..quite easy) BUT I dont think I will get a carrier in automotive... my dad want me to work with him  yeah ... because they advertise TOC like mad .. TOC are everywhere !! i also .. the head bolt allen socket only have one in the whole collage ..  .. the best car there is a proton iswara.. some even the datsun triple s .. huhu ... wah .. when u wanna continue lvl4,5 let me know the details ..wanna continue also ..  even i might not will need it ..
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mTk
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Nov 4 2008, 10:54 PM
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Interesting thread... I'm doing my mechanical engineering degree now, finishing my 3rd year in a matter of days. Automotive engineering is one of my major interests, but I'm unsure myself of the kind of career path it offers in Malaysia. Hope anyone here with more experience and knowledge and continue contributing to the thread.
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phas3r
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Nov 5 2008, 12:50 AM
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im also taking automotive engineering degree .. 1st year.. iium .. what about the job opportunity
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PrinceCC
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Nov 5 2008, 02:24 AM
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i got few fren from TOC as well.. but learning is depends on the person only
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TSSleeplessEyes
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Nov 5 2008, 10:06 AM
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TOC is famous because of their advertising. Really.
I'm not from TOC, thats why I can't speak like a TOC student.
For the City and Guilds I am taking in my school (sorry I am not feeling comfortable disclosing the name of the school) , it's really 2x cheaper (by amounts of RM 10K differences, not just thousands) . Thats why I didn't chose TOC. Its not to say TOC is bad..just out of my budget.
But what I do aim is to grad from this City and Guilds, and serve the Automotive line in year 2009. No use looking at MLVK course, its 1/2 the value.
This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Nov 5 2008, 10:10 AM
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Version 2
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Nov 29 2008, 04:07 AM
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will be taking diploma in automotive maintenance techno in TOC this february. went there 2 days ago and the customer service was very professional. told me everything i needed to know about the courses being offered and afterwards they showed me around and took me to see their facilities, labs, whatever. all i can say is just wow, its excellent. over the top even, they do practical on luxury cars e.g kompressor c200 honda civic hybrid and so on. all type of cars. the facilities is very impressive. went home and staright decided hey this is what i wanna do this is where i wanna go. fees quite expensive but this is a very good institution for an ipts. have partnership with over 300 companies, students being offered to represent racing team in dubai, first automotive college in malaysia to study hybrid technology. anybody who is serious in having a career in auto industry i recommend you have a look here. got so many loans too. will be looking forward studying there
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singchaii
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Nov 29 2008, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(Version 2 @ Nov 29 2008, 04:07 AM) will be taking diploma in automotive maintenance techno in TOC this february. went there 2 days ago and the customer service was very professional. told me everything i needed to know about the courses being offered and afterwards they showed me around and took me to see their facilities, labs, whatever. all i can say is just wow, its excellent. over the top even, they do practical on luxury cars e.g kompressor c200 honda civic hybrid and so on. all type of cars. the facilities is very impressive. went home and staright decided hey this is what i wanna do this is where i wanna go. fees quite expensive but this is a very good institution for an ipts. have partnership with over 300 companies, students being offered to represent racing team in dubai, first automotive college in malaysia to study hybrid technology. anybody who is serious in having a career in auto industry i recommend you have a look here. got so many loans too. will be looking forward studying there Yeah. They customer service is damn pro in giving sweet to customer. Promise this and that and end up, they don't even provide what they said. Practical fixing kompressor c200? That car already dismantle man!!!! The car can't start at all.. Just for visual look!! I been cheated by the toc.. I still fed up with them by promising me that course I taken doesn't need to study anything about math and science. But now, I need to studying add math and also fizik!!! While I didn't even study add math and fizik at all in my secondary school! Furthermore, confirm will get job after you graduate with salary confirm RM1k above. But my friend already graduate there, salary only RM600 and went back college and ask, they said is depend your luck.. WTF!!!! You still need do anything from basic agaiN!..So think twice either toc izit worth for you.. Get more info from TOC students here so that you won't get cheated. I believed have some toc student here.. Last time I opened one at zth forum and i get alot of negative feedback. too bad the server roll back and the thread disappeared. This post has been edited by singchaii: Nov 29 2008, 07:49 AM
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blasturanus
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Nov 29 2008, 08:33 AM
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sleeplessEyes,
IMO, u can either work first and later pursue for higher education or u can continue studying for a degree.
since u don't have a clear career path, i'd suggest that u start working 1st. 1st of all dont be too choosy in selecting jobs,just take on any job opportunity that comes forth. as u progress in your work, u'll eventually see the light in the dark. that's when u'll really know where u wana be or where u wana go, then probably to pursue that, u can opt to study for a degree to bring u closer to your goal in life.
u can start looking for jobs by looking out for career fair, and then submitting your resume to your company of choice. IMO, this is the most effective way. At the same time, start by uploading your resume online, via jobDB,jobstreet,monster.
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MohdRidhwan
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Nov 29 2008, 12:23 PM
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im a TOC student, the facilities are great but the management sucks. They always keep changing their policy. The management just reported to us that if we fail our subject, u must pay rm1000 for it. Last semester, they told us that we dont need to pay anything for the 1st and 2nd time.If u still fail the 3rd time then u pay.
IMO, the college learning experience is good, just the way how the college runs is a major headache.
I just finished learning hydraulic system. Maybe my next subject is forced induction,i think.
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bearbear
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Nov 29 2008, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(mTk @ Nov 4 2008, 10:54 PM) Interesting thread... I'm doing my mechanical engineering degree now, finishing my 3rd year in a matter of days. Automotive engineering is one of my major interests, but I'm unsure myself of the kind of career path it offers in Malaysia. Hope anyone here with more experience and knowledge and continue contributing to the thread.  Mechanical student here too I feel that when you go higher, there's more advantage for mechanical/manufacturing degree holders. Why? What do you expect to work as an engineer in automotive plants?The job scope is more focus on dealing with processes, problem solving rather than hands on with vehicles directly
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singchaii
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Nov 29 2008, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(MohdRidhwan @ Nov 29 2008, 12:23 PM) im a TOC student, the facilities are great but the management sucks. They always keep changing their policy. The management just reported to us that if we fail our subject, u must pay rm1000 for it. Last semester, they told us that we dont need to pay anything for the 1st and 2nd time.If u still fail the 3rd time then u pay. IMO, the college learning experience is good, just the way how the college runs is a major headache. I just finished learning hydraulic system. Maybe my next subject is forced induction,i think. are you sure? When I register, the fella told me the 3rd time u resit the paper only need to pay Rm50. But now Rm1000? WTF!! New rule? Cause now I'm doing my OJT. Don't know any new stuff going on. Facilities not that good nia... Especially hand tool. You will headache when doing bench work and also doing practical at the college..
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MohdRidhwan
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Nov 29 2008, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 29 2008, 05:44 PM) are you sure? When I register, the fella told me the 3rd time u resit the paper only need to pay Rm50. But now Rm1000? WTF!! New rule? Cause now I'm doing my OJT. Don't know any new stuff going on. Facilities not that good nia... Especially hand tool. You will headache when doing bench work and also doing practical at the college.. thats what they told us. they said our standards are ups. hand tools definately sucks. dont ever buy the ones college provides (like the briefcase). very expensive. want some tools, better buy from me. SATA is piece of junk. TOC's plan in the future is to become a university and probably move somewhere else bigger like a campus. errr i'll be graduating next year but maybe they tipu us.who knows.
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