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 new myvi or corolla seg ae 111 ?, which one is better fc?

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post Oct 31 2008, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(rkjsoo @ Oct 31 2008, 01:51 PM)
lol viscosity of oil do affect the performance
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Nothing to Laugh about.
Engine Performance , Yes, can be affected or improved due to lubricant drag and improper usage of oil viscosity.

But What I was relating, was engine RPM and Speed of Vehicle Ratio. Lubricant still can't affect the relations of RPM vs Speed of Vehicle Ratio.
2 different things I am talking here.

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post Oct 31 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(fillet @ Oct 31 2008, 01:15 PM)
yes.. everything stock. why?

the rim is 14"(besi punya), tyres 185/65R14  Michelin XM1
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no lar..just wondering lor..not bad lar ur car..
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:08 PM

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well for rpm and ratio lol its do not affect tho tongue.gif lol just woke up so never see clearly rofl
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:14 PM

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good morning to u.. sweat.gif but if the car is manual..i think somehow will give out better performance kua..
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:23 PM

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ae111 will beat myvi like shit in term of peformance, space, sound proof, stablility, top speed, etc etc..


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post Oct 31 2008, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(thelulz @ Oct 31 2008, 02:23 PM)
ae111 will beat myvi like shit in term of peformance, space, sound proof, stablility, top speed, etc etc..
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Furthermore...pimp the Corrola AE101, drop in 4AGE or 4AGEZ 20V engine, and put some nice black rims,
park it next to a souped up MYVI with whatever "TRD Passo" bodkykit, and it still stands out.

I could imagine if the both owners pops open their bonnets and see who drolls more icon_rolleyes.gif
4AGEZ vs. K3VET

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post Oct 31 2008, 02:44 PM

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SEG definitely!
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Oct 31 2008, 02:33 PM)
Furthermore...pimp the Corrola AE101, drop in 4AGE or 4AGEZ 20V engine, and put some nice black rims,
park it next to a souped up MYVI with whatever "TRD Passo" bodkykit, and it still stands out.

I could imagine if the both owners pops open their bonnets and see who drolls more icon_rolleyes.gif
4AGEZ vs. K3VET
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but but..k3 can smoke b16a like nothing..seen it so many times sad.gif

nvm..the myvi with k3 will definately die faster
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(thelulz @ Oct 31 2008, 02:52 PM)
but but..k3 can smoke b16a like nothing..seen it so many times sad.gif

nvm..the myvi with k3 will definately die faster
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k3vet with a proper chasis to match like those direct from japan..
yeap those are fast and deadly...

the malaysia version, erm..... nevermind...
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post Oct 31 2008, 04:47 PM

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erm... i do drive myvi everyday now and aeg111 sometimes b4... trust me , u wont like myvi on the highway if it's purely stock...(if u are going to speed)

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post Oct 31 2008, 06:01 PM

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the seg is well maintain by my bro recently he just change 4 absorber + timing belt + left and right drive shaft +engine mounting and gearbox
all priginal part from umw ! accept the gearbox is recon
wat u guys think ?

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post Oct 31 2008, 06:13 PM

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Wah, gearbox also! I heard original UMW parts are really expensive, according to my friend who owns an AE 101 SEG.

Anyway, 4AGZ-E and K3-VET are a different class of engines already. Might as well don't talk about FC if you're going for those. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 31 2008, 07:01 PM

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stuff from UMW is damn expensive!!

for example the drive shaft, original part cost 1K(one side only)

Recon RM300
AE101 is a good car. buy it.. spent some money to fix the problems.... then can use for FEW years.......
Absorber OEM Kayaba cost RM 125(if i still remember corectly. forgot 175 or 125) Each.
Spring is RM60 each.

if want to get original parts, i suggest you all go to Wing Hin Motorsports at JLN Loke. Yew.

they are the Authorized Distributor for UMW Toyota Parts and also TRD japan parts. and their pricing is very reasonable.

AE101 AE111 basically it's the same car. only the looks is different, and some say the chasis is different too.


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post Oct 31 2008, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(WanMya @ Oct 31 2008, 06:05 AM)
get a myvi.. nice and more space inside
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hey, myvi bigger or wira sedan bigger?

QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Oct 31 2008, 09:56 AM)
AE111 is kinda cramp vs MyVi for passenger space, esp the legroom.

Yes it has big boot, but as like any sedan boot, most of big squarish items (e.g. 29" CRT TV) can't be ferried even if it has a >500L boot space. Been there, tried that. wink.gif These items are feasible on hatchback like Satria, MyVi.

Added on October 31, 2008, 9:56 am
That will double the price.
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in myvi and satria, u have to put at the rear passenger seat.. u also can do that in ae111 or any sedan.. boot has its limited height and width which naturally passenger seat has more.. heck, i doubt the 29" tv can even fit in accord and camry

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 31 2008, 12:47 PM)
I think its not the g/b.. its the cc difference.. larger engines normally can run at lower rpm for the same speed compared to smaller engines
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its the gearbox ratio.. cc difference gives different power and torque at same rpm
eg:
1.3L gives 50bhp while 2.0L gives 80bhp @ 3000rpm


Added on October 31, 2008, 7:30 pmno doubt, ae1xx series was one of the best toyota around..much better than the vios brows.gif
more space, more power, better reliability, tougher built, acceptable fc despite the age..
myvi.................. u have to ask the fans

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post Oct 31 2008, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(ah_fong @ Oct 31 2008, 06:01 PM)
the seg is well maintain by my bro recently he just change 4 absorber + timing belt + left and right drive shaft +engine mounting and gearbox
all priginal part from umw ! accept the gearbox is recon
wat u guys think ?
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ae111 have trouble free engine and gearbox..even if u trash it like shit and not servicing it..it damn very reliable

the problem with ae1xx is the absorber not lasting..this is due to the sagging old spring..i suggest u replace it with ae101 levin suspension front and rear..pretty cheap in halfcut shop
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post Oct 31 2008, 07:58 PM

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i have AE101. i only replaced the Absorbers. Spring still using 16 yr old STOCK

if i change the spring to NEW AE101 OEM Spring, will ym ride height Change? will my car look ugly?

FC for Highway Driving, i drove 4-5 times already KL to AlorSetar

at 130-140km/h 10.5-11KM per Liter( confirmed, cause i always drive at this speed range)

At 120km/h i think it's about 13km/L

i think the FC is reasonable for a 16yr old car.

This post has been edited by fillet: Oct 31 2008, 08:00 PM
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post Oct 31 2008, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Oct 31 2008, 02:33 PM)
Furthermore...pimp the Corrola AE101, drop in 4AGE or 4AGEZ 20V engine, and put some nice black rims,
park it next to a souped up MYVI with whatever "TRD Passo" bodkykit, and it still stands out.

I could imagine if the both owners pops open their bonnets and see who drolls more icon_rolleyes.gif
4AGEZ vs. K3VET
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what are 4AGEZ 20v engines?? never heard of that before. as far as i know, for the SEG (101/111) the most popular mod are 4age 20v silvertops or the newer blacktops. if you're referring to 4AGZE, that is a fairly old supercharged engine. but since TS is going for FC, why even suggest forced induction. if later on TS wants to swap engines, then to me blacktops are the best bet.


well TS, since you're buying from your bro i suppose you're getting it slightly cheaper than market price. since its very well looked after, go for it. if you want cheaper options, i highly suggest AE101..
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post Oct 31 2008, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Oct 31 2008, 09:51 AM)
get d seg lulz
but 200k milg  sweat.gif
but after repairin n stuff
i think da car is rdy for a good run
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My SEG 260k, everyday travel from Bukit Jalil to Sunway, RM40 for 5 days go and back.

I guess the FC is acceptable la, I travel 90-100 on highway RPM constantly 2800-3000rpm


Added on October 31, 2008, 8:16 pm
QUOTE(e30 @ Oct 31 2008, 08:14 PM)
what are 4AGEZ 20v engines?? never heard of that before. as far as i know, for the SEG (101/111) the most popular mod are 4age 20v silvertops or the newer blacktops. if you're referring to 4AGZE, that is a fairly old supercharged engine. but since TS is going for FC, why even suggest forced induction. if later on TS wants to swap engines, then to me blacktops are the best bet.
well TS, since you're buying from your bro i suppose you're getting it slightly cheaper than market price. since its very well looked after, go for it. if you want cheaper options, i highly suggest AE101..
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Converting to blacktops illegal or not?


Added on October 31, 2008, 8:20 pm
QUOTE(fillet @ Oct 31 2008, 12:49 PM)
AE101  at

90km/h  2k rpm
120km/h 2.5k RPM
140km/h 3k RPM
160km/h 4Krpm
180km/h 6-6.2k RPM
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Wow really?

My SEG 1.6 run 90 at 2800rpm

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post Oct 31 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(fillet @ Oct 31 2008, 07:58 PM)
i have AE101. i only replaced the Absorbers. Spring still using 16 yr old STOCK

if i change the spring to NEW AE101 OEM Spring, will ym ride height Change? will my car look ugly?

FC for Highway Driving, i drove 4-5 times already KL to AlorSetar

at 130-140km/h  10.5-11KM per Liter( confirmed, cause i always drive at this speed range)

At 120km/h  i think it's about 13km/L

i think the FC is reasonable for a 16yr old car.
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if u like to have some fun..just change to levin 101 spring laugh.gif

firmer a bit than stock..same height as sagged ae101 spring
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post Oct 31 2008, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Oct 31 2008, 08:15 PM)
Wow really?

My SEG 1.6 run 90 at 2800rpm
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i also suspect his gear ratio or his tacho got problem...
as i remember my old toyota 4A-E 1.6cc manual can reach 80km/h @ 2200rpm and 100km/h 2500rpm...
my old car all in stock condition included rims and tires...

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