Hi,

I hv a pb12plus plain black ed..

I know of another friend (lives in de Klang Valley but works in Pg) who runs a 20-39(I cnt remember whether its an I or + model..) n another guy in de Klang Valley who has de same - in fact they bot together .. oso I know another chap who runs 2 pb10's in JB(works in Sg..).. All our units are bought thru Sg..

Uhm.. de SvS I models are de lowest range then cums Plus n top of de line is Ultras.. de plus should be more powerful than de I models..

Since 2007, they opened international orders for de 'bins'.. they stopped durin 2006(when I bot mine, tat I know..)

So far no issues wif mine thou' I would say mines under used.. N Customer Service is exemplary - I once complained cos my decal(u know de SvS name tag..) came off.. n they shipped 2 new ones for me wif my upgraded(a 12.3) driver I ordered.. fact is I re sticked de older one .. after all..kekeke

Hsu's makes great subs too.. I dare say SvS copied Dr Hsu's designs - remember, Hsu makes 'bins' too .. on which is better well.. I wont go into tat.. suffice to say both hv their followers..

Musical subs are fast n usually sealed .. HT subs nid ports for de lower octaves.. cant compare de 2..

Cheers
Dirtrun

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Oct 23 2008, 02:53 PM

Hahaha,

Yes I did get de 12.3 driver and no I wont be going for de 12.4... for de simple reason of I m still using de 12.2 driver.. de lazy bones in me were daunted in flippin de beast (55kg .. man.. no joke..) over to change tis.. my 12.3 driver is in my store sumwhere..

12.2, 12.3 or 12.4 .. watever dont really matter .. first off it must be a SvS.. Agreed??

Kekeke
Dirtrun

Ya..

Mine was offered by my Sg mates who wanted to upgr their drivers, so they organised an Mass Order for it .. apparently u nid to disclose ur sub serial no for SvS to verify tat u qualify for de deal.. u must be still under their warranty period of 3 yrs, if after dat period, u can still buy but price is different - xtra 50%, if not mistaken.. So I tot wat de heck.. worst is tat I get a heavy book end or a spare driver just in case mine dies ... kekeke

Cheers
Dirtrun

Quoted cost of 12.3 driver is US$99.. I pd S$210 inclusive of shippin in de end..

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Added on October 29, 2008, 12:50 pmLike I said, u can still buy even if ur subs are over warranty period..

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Oct 29 2008, 12:50 PM

Hahaha,

Long time no hear Bro..

U must be one of de pioneer SvS owners here in Mal la..

I follower onlee..

Kekeke
Dirtrun

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Added on October 30, 2008, 1:08 pmHi,

Well.. in MO's tats de idea - to save ..

Hahaha.. Too bz la.. wanna install oso not free , where got time to diy such a big project..
but its a gud idea..


This post has been edited by dirtrun: Oct 30 2008, 01:08 PM

Wat tis bump here bump there.. ah

Is there any new 13 inch driver owners here??

Haha,

Gud idea huh.. why nvr tink of tat before..

Kekeke
Dirtrun

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Added on May 23, 2009, 1:24 pmFor HT,

Its one of de best value for money subs, u can get..

Nope, not sold in Sg B & M shops but you'll be surprised how many SvS's there are in the small isle..

Experience it ah.. in KL , I know of at least 2 owners, bound to be more..

Cheers
Dirtrun


This post has been edited by dirtrun: May 23 2009, 01:24 PM

Haha,

My frnd who helped me bring it in from Sg requested anonymity.. so sorry.. cant reveal how I brought it in.

But the pt is SvS makes gud subs for HT n u dont hv to take my word for it.. jus google n be poisoned.. Kekeke

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Added on May 24, 2009, 11:00 amEh bro,

I tot u went wif a velodyne??

Regards
Dirtrun

This post has been edited by dirtrun: May 24 2009, 11:04 AM

True, true..

But then again, where can u find spkrs tat sound gud n cheap?? Especially in Malaysia..
For 2k, u ll be gettin the entry level '10inchers' only n ya its an uphill battle to try sumtin 'unleard' of.. tat argument is valid.

On a wasted purchase if u dont like an svs.. I dare say if u were to put up one for sale now at 2k, there would be takers n I hv yet to see a SvS sub sold becos owner dont find it 'suitable' (mind you tis is gud for HT, musical subs - u r better off lukin elsewhere..) I know of one chap who didnt quite like it as a stereo pair for classical music n several who was givin up de hobby n yes oso de irrevereble upgraditis sale to a bigger meaner SvS sub..

But for me n Bro Poison arrow, we both bought it 'blind'(so to speak..).. actin only on 'blind' faith of other more 'learned' members of the fraternity tat kept on sayin how gud it was...

N we havent looked back.. kekeke
Dirtrun



This post has been edited by dirtrun: May 28 2009, 12:20 PM

Hi..

No offence to Velodyne lovers but when it(svs) first came out, there were alrdy fans quotin how gud it was compared to Velodynes n Paradigms of de same caliber.. of cos initially u could say it was jus fanboys blowin their horn but if more n more were made 'converts' .. there has to be sumtin goin for it..

If u can afford it, de ultra would be de ultimate-once-in-a-purchase sub.. u prbbly would not upgrade it again until it konks or if u give up de hobby.. I only know of ultra upgraders is when they add another.. but ya real life dictates us to look for wat we can afford n like me ( n dare I say similarly like you..) a midrange plus is plenty gud alrdy..

Anyway.. gud choice n lookin forward to ur detailed review..

Regards
Dirtrun

Uhm..

Both is kick ass la.. de bins hv a smaller footprint n is lighter but sum ppl cant fathom a spkr tat luks like tat..

Its all in de preference, really..

As for me, I wanted a 'bin' but when I wanted to order, svs stopped shippin 'bins' overseas so I had to choose a box or get sumtin else.. n I chose de box - I tot wat de heck, its still an SvS .. back then shippin for bins was a tad cheaper cos of its weight but they cost de same .. if not mistaken..

Ultras are expensive for me but of cos if u r alrdy lukin at REL n M & K then its still cheaper than those models and if u get de premium veneers , it looks really really gud too .. o ya n if its for HT use, then.. well as they say de rest is history..

Cheers
Dirtrun

Haha..

I'd hate to be your immediate neighbor..

Enjoy..
Dirtrun

Ya Bro HTkaki,

Welcome to de boom boom club..

I guess it would be really interestin as well as an eye opener to read ur experienced( I mean .. u being in tis line n all..) n knowledgeable review..

Nid to rant a bit .. de new cylinder subs dont look much different than de older generations .. well at least there is no appreciable difference tat I can see but de newer box dont luk gud IMO.. I m not saying tis jus becos I hv de older model but de hidden down firing design looks way sturdier.. more solid(more macho as an mcp would say..) if u prefer than d current front firin design wif grill n all but I do notice tat there is no cheaper wrapped matt black model anymore n its all premium veneers now .. o well dats progress for u..

Cheers
Dirtrun

Hi,

On music, I believe u nid to get de sealed sub from SvS .. sealed subs are faster n have more control thou' they dont go as low.. Like u said, if u nid ne sub to do both chores then u nid to compromise but if u dont want to do tat, then u nid one Mofo big ported svs for ht n a small sealed one for music..
I know of a chap who tried out 2 pb10s in stereo configuration for classical music - seems he didnt like it.. thou'..

Cheers
Dirtrun

Reference lvl should be 80db @ spl mtr..

I tink my 7002/spkrs combo is -13 n my subs are hot a bit ..
Normal listening lvls vary from -16 to -20 dependin on movies, time and also my mood..

I got mine thru SvS .. its a little cheaper there, it cums wif avia ..

I tink u can get thru monoprice or even amazon..

I believe SvS is bannin MO/Grp Buys to tis region is so tat to consolidate de eventuallity of a dealer in de region..

I dun tink there ll be a dealer for Malaysia.. its too close to Sg plus our market isnt tat big..

Jus my 2 ctsla
Dirtrun

Me too..

Jus voicin my thoughts only..

Besides it wouldnt be difficult wif de Sg rep to liaise wif a Malaysian co/individual abt bringin in de odd one in or sumtin like tat..

I dunt tink any malaysian would want to stock up on all de different SvS spkrs (they dont jus sell subs now..) which is wat de parent co wants for u to be called a dealer..

Again, my 2 cts..
Dirtrun

True.. true..

Even in Sg, KEC is only organsing tis get together/exhibition n is not confirmed as de dealer..

Well at least tats wat I heard
Dirtrun

Not really la..

U can read oso wat at xp's forum..

Haha.. I oso heard tat they(KEC) will be askin de Sg bass guru( de one wif a 7.7 system) to help set up de subs for a demo session.. btw he is not a proffessional, jus maybe tat he got 'golden ear'..

Whoever ends up gettin de SvS dealership is gud for Sg (n indirectly us..) as they ll bring parts n expertise closer to de ground .. oso de ability to demo first before puttin up your hard earned cash is loads better than jus readin rvws..

Cheers
Dirtrun