芥菜 is that better ?? I think you refering to those preserved version of them !!

yah yah..preserved gai choy..mayb ericolim wanna make tortoise soup?

Yes, painted turtle looks like the one erico posted.

btw, turtle owners, how do u dust your pellets wit calcium? wat i mean is, the pellet will eventually be thrown into water. wouldn't the calcium dust be washed off?

i had the same problem myself...but pellets contain calcium just not dat much i guess...feed them reptomin and they like it...btw mustard greens is call wat in chinese ah ?? and where to buy grape leaves? thx

Sawi (bahasa Inggeris: Mustard Greens) atau nama saintifiknya Brassica juncea rugosa merupakan sejenis tumbuhan yang dikenali sebagai sayur-sayuran dan ditanam sebagai makanan. Sawi banyak terjual di pasar-pasar termasuk pasar tani, dan pasar sayur.

Sumber：wikipedia

Mustard Green = SAWI = Choy Sum

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Added on January 12, 2010, 12:06 am u may try cuttlefish bone / sepia bone

This post has been edited by budblely: Jan 12 2010, 12:06 AM

where did you get this?

tonite is exactly 1 week after one of my IST died. have been sad for a week, this pair of tortoises meant a lot to me. now i'm left with 1 IST, so i would like to make sure i'm caring it the right way.

1) am i doing it right?
captivity conditions:
cage: 40cmx25cm box with "cat litter recycled paper" bedding, out of cage roaming around inside the house during weekend
food: sawi (daily), pellets (once a week), some water in feeding pan (1-2 times a week), occasionally: baby spinach, kangkung, apple, guava, carrot
exposure to sun every morning (cage located near window)
bathe once a week

is this condition suitable? where can i buy cuttlefish bone?


2) what actually happened to the dead IST?
it used to eat and walk a lot, very active although it seems to have RNS all the time. it was given antibiotics before for the RNS, but i stop giving it since it was actually very active, not affected by the bubbles on its nose at all. i've cared for it for 2 years+2months. suddenly it seems to lost its appetite, not really eating. i don't know what happened, brought it to vet, was told it terribly dehydrated. so it was given sodium lactate injection, but still not eating, very weak. i brought it to work everyday, feeding it with water using syringe every 1-2 hour. after few days, it seems better, willing to open its eyes, much more stronger to move around but still not eating, no pee & poo at all. then after 1 week, it suddenly urinated a few times during the day, passed away that night. any idea what had happened? is there actually a way to save its life?


3) why both tortoises grow at different rate?
the 2 IST was bought at different place different time (less than a month), but similar in size. after 2 years+ , the dead ST didn't really grows much, increment about 1cm in SCL & 40g in weight. the other existing ST grows 2cm in SCL & 100g in weight. is it normal for tortoises to grow at different rate?


i'm sorry for my long post here. maybe i've asked a lot of stupid questions, but i really wished to learn more so that my only surviving tortoise can continue live healthily. would like to get a new companion for it but seems difficult to find. hope it won't get "depressed" living alone now......



4) actually, i have another question. i would like to keep the dead tortoise shell. don't want simply throw it into rubbish bin, but don't have proper place to bury it. so. i decided to keep it. i was told that i could freeze it in freezer, it'll shrink then can be removed from shell. then the shell must be soaked in formalin for some time. problem is i don't have formalin, so maybe will try vinegar instead. do anybody here have any experience preserving tortoise shell? any other better method?


any guidances/comments would be greatly appreciated.....thanks a lot....

at Page 1, Posted by Uzairi:

Usefull Link :-
TTT V1
TTT V2
TTT V3

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Added on January 12, 2010, 8:41 amdo more survey bro... owner aready told where he bought it, u stil want to ask?

This post has been edited by budblely: Jan 12 2010, 08:41 AM

[quote=budblely,Jan 12 2010, 08:38 AM]
at Page 1, Posted by Uzairi:

Usefull Link :-
TTT V1
TTT V2
TTT V3



Madagascar Spider Tortoise... u know anyone sold it before here?


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[quote=ericolim,Jan 12 2010, 09:59 AM]
[quote=budblely,Jan 12 2010, 08:38 AM]
at Page 1, Posted by Uzairi:

Usefull Link :-
TTT V1
TTT V2
TTT V3
Madagascar Spider Tortoise... u know anyone sold it before here?

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apasal? u want to addon ka?

wish! but very curious his price o! its seem very very expensive

no need to Wish la...
let do it BFTL Buy First, Think Later

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Added on January 12, 2010, 11:10 amSorry to hear bout that, bro...
Those stuff normally can be found on Birds Shop/ Kedai Jual Burung

Grow Different becoz there got stronger & weaker.. (Dead ST/weak/Smaller size) sure kena bully .. u may try to separate them while feeding to prevent this happen..

This post has been edited by budblely: Jan 12 2010, 11:17 AM

Try RM 1000 +- a hundred or two !! Depending who you buy from !!

My supplier has a few last year for RM 1000 a pc !!

Wow, 1k o few years back.. as expected as rare tortoise..

No it was just last year , compare to few years back price fallen a far bit ie. Back in 2007 asking 1800 a pc

Bro Sam or any Sifu...currently Aldabra Tortoise cost how much ah for baby size?

to get the sufficient calcium needed you can feed your turtle with fish, they will eat everything as from scales to bones.

1. Try to avoid kangkung, apple and guava. Please do a research on what's good for them. There's a list of them at the front page of this thread.

2. Since you mention its not growing, it might suffers from MBD but there's other possibility of sickness.

3. There are several possibility of them growing at different rate. Firstly gender, female IST will grow at a faster rate compared to the male counterparts. Secondly food intake, some specimens may like/dislike or choosy about their food. Other might included small enclosure where they are cramped inside with other specimens thus retarding their growth.

4. In my case, i preserve them by soaking them inside the water for like 1 week. The flesh would go off and u can wash it then dry it up under the sun to get rid of the humidity so that it wont smell later. Another method is, you put them in a container and buy quite some amount of giant mealworm or normal sized mealworm and put them inside the container. Those mealworm would eat up the flesh and leave the bones and shell.

This are from my pov and exp, i would love if others care to add it up and share with us so that we can learn and benefit it together

Bro, regarding the Orinoco form, is the turtle base is Black? while the Amazon form is Red?

My 1.5 inch Western Painted Turtle.

I've noticed a whitish transparent layer on top of its skin. Is that skin fungus or just old skin which is shed?

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wah nice wo....look like big size also
normally is old skin shedding...my AST shed alot.