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post Apr 8 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(pumpkinn @ Apr 8 2009, 12:53 AM)
ok....thanks a lot for all the information given El......now i know what can i do for the kitty already. one last question, just want to reconfirm with you, you said that origen is for both adult and kitten right? i think i read from here before, if not mistaken. cuz i guess it will be more convenient for me. you know sometimes, kitten will want to eat adult food and adult cat will want to eat kitten food. hehe...
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yeap orijen is for both cat & kitten. but the kibbles size seem to be big for kitten age 1-3 months. and also the price is quite expensive. if you only have 2 pets, then it is suitable. get the 7kg = RM145, you can use that till 3 months. rather than buying the smaller packs.
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QUOTE(zulkis @ Apr 8 2009, 09:26 AM)
Al,

Last time i have 4 cats, 1 died (DLH - Jeny) so now 3 left. 1 DLH female 4months (not same sibling as Jeny) and other 2 Local breed  (Taby 3months). These 2 taby looks kurus a bit as i told earlier.

I'm not mixing in a same cage with the DLH. They are in other cage. Just monitor yesterday. Looks good they eat well.
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it's look like you are new with kitten and cat?

none of them ever visit vet? vaccine, deworm and health check up?

that age, is it estimate or the correct one with date of birth?
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QUOTE(zopu @ Apr 8 2009, 10:01 AM)
Actually my cat is completely indoor's cat. I just wonder how can this fleas come to him. What i suspect is recently got two stray cat come to my house. (I'm staying terrace house, they lepak in front car park) They even siting outside the door(mirror door), and do some territory marking and see my cat reaction. My cat of course angry and meow laughter here and there, and wanna jump outside, look like wanna get a big fight with them(i don't think my cat can win, coz the stray cats look like warrior... laugh.gif ) After that i found my cat got fleas... is not many, just few fleas (what i saw and catched, but dono they breed eggs or not), i'm also worry the fleas come back...
Btw, can i use the Frontline spray for prevention? since i have it now and thinking izit necessary only can use spot on for prevention?was thinking finished spray bottle 1st then only get the spot on... so can i do that?
So today is the 1st day to quarantine my cat. I only can release him after 3 days right? Then whats the next step should i do? Bath him.. clean the cage...? how often put the frontline for prevention? every month once? Please advise, Thanks!
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Yea.. sometimes when your cat is admitted in the vet, they can also get fleas from other cat/dog.

Frontline spray if you want to kill the fleas hardcore way and immediately. the spray type is like mosquito spray., u spray, they die within few second.

Frontline spot on, is more like for prevention. it won't kill immediately. because u spot it on 1 place, and it took hours to start working properly. while, fleas may be already run away.

So, it is better to use SPRAY first, start world war III immediately, don't bomb alil bit with spot on, it will just be waste of money.

You can use spray type for prevention, but then, you cat will look like messy lah. oh well, you spray it on cat, your cat look like jatuh dalam longkang. that liquid will make your cat fur because like using hair wax/gel. so imagine if you preventing fleas using spray, and spray them every month. 12 months your cat look like going to make concert eheheh with hard on fur. rolleyes.gif

With spot on, you cannot see anything. because only spot at 1 small place on the neck. 1 tube will secure your cat for 1 month. after that, if needed, apply it again.

Don't finish up the whole bottle.. remember, when you dealing with fleas, it is not that easy. many people have to repeat over and over again.

So now, u already spray one time. keep the balance. then go buy spot one 1 pack (3 tubes inside).. put it on your cat after bath. and monitor after 1 months. if u see fleas again, start spray, then spot on again.

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U can bath your cat today or after 24-4 hours. with fleas shampoo better. again don't forget to clean the ears, and apply eat mites drops.. fleas are smart, they hide in ears too. dry your cat, and comb.

then apply spot on.

go to sleep and count the days till 30 ehehehehe... and check again icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(zulkis @ Apr 8 2009, 12:50 PM)

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I think you need to start clean the ears.
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QUOTE(zulkis @ Apr 8 2009, 03:21 PM)
Yes, i'm new with kitten and cat thats why need some opinion.

Those 2 tabby date of birth is 15 Jan 2009 nearly around 3 months. Not yet getting 1st vet or dewormed coz i dont want to be the same incident like Jeny before thats why. Maybe next week will do after they getting fatter.

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jeny die because of deworming? that is weird..

kitten will be deworm from age 6 weeks..

jeny case, i think the parasite in her already having party and make body system because ball room.

i sure think u need to deworm when that 2 kitten is healthy. before the parasite inside them become king, deworm will not help anymore. that is why they are skinny. no appetite...
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QUOTE(pumpkinn @ Apr 8 2009, 11:51 PM)
El, just an update for my kitty. she has earmite!!! so i bought a bottle of the medicine for both of my cat and the kitten. my cat is just for prevention. according to the vet, she is 4 months old. and she is only 0.9 kg!!! how pityful!!! hope that she will get healthier as soon as possible biggrin.gif while for vaccination, it can only be done after few weeks as she has a symptom of flu. so need to be observed 1st.
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OMG 0.9kg is like so underweight... hopefully recover soon:) yea the vet is doing the right thing, no vaccine when a cat/kitten is sick.

so till then we wait for the good improvement news thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(zopu @ Apr 9 2009, 04:38 PM)
hi elf, just saw my cat back leg got this "black hole".. any idea what it is?
no fur inside the hole, just the skin... but is black color skin. Izit the flea's camp? hmm.gif
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is it like bald patches? look like ringworm. better bring to vet, before it turn worst. remember, if it is ringworm, you need to protect yourself (human) too.. ringworm on cat, can get into human. you will see red spot, dry skin on your body. and itchy too.

the image is not that clear. it may cause from bite... black seem to be weird eh.. is it like burn skin?

anyway, if u not sure what it is, and its getting bigger and bigger, better visit your vet.

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 10 2009, 03:36 AM)
The first time I've posted here about girl being pregnant was 27th February.
Now it's already 10th April.

Mind reminding me how long does cat get pregnant before they gave birth? blink.gif
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on average 65 days.

some come early at 61 days, and as late at 69 days.

for your case it should be around early may till 6th may.

p/s try calculate again, i'm bad with numbers LOL.
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QUOTE(ubikeledek @ Apr 10 2009, 11:03 AM)
Hey people, its me again.. it's been a while, well actually only a week. Huhu.
Well actually, that Friday morning, my kitten had bleeding poop. It's not bleeding at the poop itself, the poop looked normal, but I can see some brown+reddish liquid at his anus. I suspected it from the milk I gave. Didn't go to Jabatan Perkhidmatan Haiwan coz seems like my kitten really hated long driving so instead I brought him to a very nearby vet. Got him some medications for the eye as well as some antibiotic and deworming. The vet said there are 3 causes of bleeding poop - virus, worm and the other one I actually forgot what is it. Huhu. She said can't tell its a virus yet coz I just got him for a week, have to wait after 2 weeks, and vaccine can only be done after 2 weeks as well. The vet suspected worm for the bleed coz she saw the worm's egg under the microscope and I even saw that too! Anyways she said that I can see the worm coming out with his poop after a few days, but I didnt see any worms at his poop at all after 3 days? Or I didnt look at it carefully eh?

Anyways, he looked already healthy and the eyes are big as ever, not until today coz something else happened pulak. My kitten is not eating breakfast! I thought maybe my housemate has given him breakfast already before she's off to work at 7 am, coz I saw the bowl is empty when I went out of my room at 8 am, and I know he should be hungry at the morning right coz the dinner is like 9 hrs ago. I gave him his food then, normally every morning he would be running to have his breakfast but today, he went to the bowl and sniff2 and then walk away?? Maybe he has eaten, but then while I was having my breakfast, he vomited right in front of me. The vomit doesnt look like saki baki of food, its like perut kosong punya vomit, like buih2 like that? I cleaned the bowl and everything already, and I always change the food every mealtime but he's not eating..  icon_question.gif Huhu, I tried crushing the kibbles with my spoon and add a bit of water but he's not even interested at all. Should I bring him to the vet again? And, why is he vomiting?

Above all, he is still an active kitten, always jumping and running and chasing people's legs.
hurm, mine has orange cat, and has lots of Japanese writings there. Not sure which one, but it doesnt have any smell either.
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Kitten will always be kitten, they don't really show sickness, till they are almost meet death. even last time, my kitten with bladder stone, still playing jump around. he only show sickness in the litter box, then keep playing again.

here is most common causes of blood in stool:
- worms and parasites
- Constipation - problem with current diet
- food allergy
- Inflammation of the bowel
- Disease of the anal sacs

now when your cat is vomitting, sound red alert. the vet gave any medicine? it can be drugs reaction. Call that vet, and ask why. they will check if the drugs they gave will produce vomit or not. if NO, then you need to bring to the vet again, since he is not eating too.

beware for dehydration.. before it is too late. vet vet vet!
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QUOTE(ubikeledek @ Apr 10 2009, 01:02 PM)
Ok, I just saw other vomits around the living room. There was one with a little bit food with it, and to my surprise I saw something else as well. Thought it was blood at first but after examining, it was a red feather from my kitten's toy shocking.gif . He might have swallowed it. Huhu, but the portion of food is very little, I saw a few more vomit spots around the house and they are already the white colour liquids and some foamy ones as well. Afraid he might caught gastric!  cry.gif How to make him eat now?
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Gosh! Seriously you need to visit vet. if you see toys!!! oh my!!! your cat stomach might end up blocking, stop digesting food, and also maybe that toy will scratch the internal body and cause internal blood / wound.

if nothing hard inside the body, then it might be chemical causes from the toys. check all his toys, and see if there is any spoil hard part like plastic, screw, etc.

if none of it related to hard parts of toys... then...

Kitties are very sensitive creatures and it is possible that Precious may have been upset at your absence. However, vomiting is not something that is usually caused by this, it is the result of other factors, such as:

# Rapid ingestion of dry food and water
# Itchy skin causes cats to lick their hair off...leads to hair ingestion
# Intestinal blockage or a low fiber diet
# Hyperthyroidism
# Decreased Kidney function
# Inflammatory bowel disease (YOUR KITTEN MAY HAVE THIS)
# Intestinal lymphoma
# Worms/Intestinal Parasites (YOUR KITTEN MAY HAVE THIS)
# Liver disease
# Chronic Pancreatitis

I stated YOUR KITTEN MAY HAVE THIS, from the previous problem which is blood in stool.

but yet, the others might be possibility.

you need to call your vet, or just visit them again to follow up.

again vomiting is not a good sign too. since vomiting involve internal part of the body, any of this faulty, things going to be serious. it's not like if it is external problem, no legs, no tails, cat can still survive. but internal, it's hard.

not to scare you, but please call and visit your vet.

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QUOTE(slackerz @ Apr 10 2009, 08:47 PM)
hi guys,i wanna ask a question here..but before i ask,i wanna apologize for this question.maybe this question is too simple for u all..but im not a person who simply ask the question before reading the whole thread,but now im desperately dont have much time to read it.furthermore u guys really have such a fast growing thread,v4 already and 100 page sweat.gif ..i apology because sometimes some senior forumers didnt like someone new like me to ask the same and basic question n make them tired to answer the same things..so i apology first for my weakness..im here to ask u guys,i keep my friends cat temporarily for a few day..but this big guy has some problem,he lose hair at some part of his body..and his left eye quite watery and cannot open very well..i ask my fren about it,she said she just buy him from someone who cannot look after him anymore because sympathy to him..and his condition already like this..i suspect he lost some of his hair because of his diet,because the skin quite healthy..but wanna ask u guys first.and somemore,this fella really scare to people la,i suspect he got abused before..ok,this is picture of his hair..sorry for the long post..
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male right... hmmm

any other part beside the stomach/body? maybe like tail, under tail, near the private part, back legs? if yes, possibility he is suffering from RINGWORM... or this tiny parasite. unless if he is negative from fleas.

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The most recognised sign your cat is infected with ringworm is circular patches of hair loss, especially around the head & limbs (although it can occur on other parts of the body also). Other signs are grey, patchy areas of baldness, with or without redness & itching, seborrhea sicca (a type of dandruff), dry/flaky skin, onychomycosis (infection of the claw &  clawbed).


you need vet for future treatment, it can be other parasites attack. before it turn out bad, do it now.
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Apr 10 2009, 08:53 PM)
Hi, my cat got problem. He very healthy wan. just a few days i saw got black black thing on his nose, den i don't care lor, i just use wet towel rub of this black black thing abit and till got some left but i just leave it there. Than soon day after day his black black thing come off itself but the nose only left skin there. The nose shiny shiny lar. Usually cat nose got red red + watery like that and got some fur abit right? Now already botak and skin color edi. my bro says is a kurap on his nose. is it true? If yes than what should i do?
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eheh funny, at first i was like want to say "tahi hidung" eheheh.. but then suddenly u say already botak. again you need vet to solve this skin problem. yes possibility kurap. you need kurap medicine from the vet if it is kurap. let the vet tell you want infected the skin at his nose smile.gif
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QUOTE(ubikeledek @ Apr 10 2009, 09:16 PM)
I went to visit the vet this evening, just got back actually, and the vet said it is because of the feather, some might have still be inside his stomach, and since the food that came out is already digested (I actually took a picture of the vomit and showed to the vet), so the problem is around the stomach and the intestine area. So the vet gave me 3 meds including this one med called Laxatone , but anyway, I cant give the med not until he eats, the vet even said for me to stop feeding dry food and change to wet food. I bought this wet food brand called sumo cat, quite a number of them, but he seems like not interested to eat at all! How can i make him eat?? Have to force like babies eh?

Actually I stopped the first medication since Tuesday, and he was okay since but I think this new problem came right after he swallowed the feather! Huhu. Got him the dewormed medication last week so the worm problem should be solved already la eh? The stool was okay the whole week, so it should be okay lah right?
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yea if the stool is ok, should be ok.

now the problem he don't want to eat. so no stool ehehe.. do he drink? hopefully yes...

yeap you need to force him eating like baby. else, bila nak sembuh dari sakit kan. you just roll some of the wet food into round shave, or take alil bit, open his mouth and put it around the teeth/gum, he will lick it later.
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QUOTE(ubikeledek @ Apr 10 2009, 09:46 PM)
hurm.. he's not even interested with his previous dry food as well?  cry.gif.. he looked so restless..


Added on April 10, 2009, 9:54 pm

not even drinking...  cry.gif ..

tried to force but to no avail. it went out from the mouth. isk, have to be more garang.  blink.gif ..

btw, i read that some cat mites can even transfered to human? i mean yea ringworm can right, but what about mites/ticks? dunno lah lately i have some mite bites on my skin too! just now just realized got another 2 bites. my fren said its the mattress one but i now suspected i got it from my kitten coz never had that many before. i should get frontline eh? i mean for the kitten not me.  biggrin.gif
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how do you know if it is mites bites anyway?

you cannot see ticks, mites, ringworm..

you can see lice on fur if you good eyes..

you can see fleas clearly..

normally what bites are fleas. they suck on the blood. it will look like mosquitoes bites. ringworm will look like skin rashes. others, you can really see and feel.

Clean your home. frequent vacuum if you have carpet. else wash your carpet. wash your mattress cover as frequent as you can. Possibility "HAMA" what makes you gatal2, and it can go to human and cats too. Normally hama will look like ruam on your skin. Your mattress, you can spray with fabreze, or serai wangi (can get this at hyper marker). You can also buy this thin comforter which is suitable to avoid hama... i got mine at Jusco, at the bed section - white color, got hama pic on it grey color.

your kitten is not fully recover now. so better don't spray frontline first. i'm afraid he cannot handle the stress. he is sick, stress because go out and in the vet. so continue force feeding, medicine, and rest first.

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QUOTE(ubikeledek @ Apr 10 2009, 10:39 PM)
Wah, I was looking for Hill's or RC ones too, but the pet shop I went which was the only one opened at that time have not many choice of wet food. Shall search for that tomorrow! Thanks for the recommendation! Already tried forcing the food to him, I think a little bit did went through the esophagus, I hope!  sweat.gif . Should feed him all the time with syringe yea?
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You can get Hill's prescription canned food at the vet. it's special one, that is why, it is not in the petshop. A/D is good for unhealthy cat, it is well balance, so your cat won't feel vomiting if it is too much protein and fat. its like us, eating bubur when demam, instead of kari.
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QUOTE(slackerz @ Apr 10 2009, 11:26 PM)
yes,u r rite..the same thing at tail, under tail, near the private part, back legs.funny when he has fluffy fur at their around their head,and front leg..if it cause by ringworm,how to solve it?vet?or any medication that i can buy..pity him,he should be handsome guy..ha3.


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to confirm if it is ringworm or not, your need to visit vet. they will microscope your cat fur and skin to see if there is any ringworm. also with that under blue florescent light to confirm ringworm or not.

if it is ringworm, normally vet will give your this special cream to put on the patches. and with Griseofulvin (some use other tablets). Also, vet will ask you to bath the cat with special fungal shampoo.

if still not working, they maybe will shave off all the fur.

lastly still not working, will vaccine. vaccine type sometimes fail, to 50-50 chances to cure.
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QUOTE(slackerz @ Apr 11 2009, 12:57 AM)
ok..so need to see vet jgk lah..maybe before seeing the vet,i can try to take fur specimen and put under microscope,ha3.and under uv light somemore.but dunno how its look like..ok,will inform her asap after she came back..btw,can ringworm from the cat infect us?ringworm cause by fungi rite?
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ehhehe funny lah you tongue.gif anyway you really need to go to vet, before that ringworm or fungal or maybe other skin disease get bad. when it get bad you pay more and more.

yeap ringworm can infect human. red skin, rashes, red spot on your skin.
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QUOTE(ubikeledek @ Apr 11 2009, 01:44 AM)
thought it was the hama too, but then what wonders me is i got another few extra bites while i was out to the vet. hurm, nevermind will do another spring cleaning of the house. the bites on my skin (mainly at my arms) looked like the mosquito bite with a dot in the middle. maybe it's not a dust mite or bed mites, googled the picture and it was diff. surely the flea or somekinda bug! it just happened last 2 days though. haih, too many things happened in a few days. how can he get the flea since he's just staying indoor? shud it be possible he might have it before i got him?

my poor kitten, vomited again an hour after the force feeding and medication. the vet did say that he might still vomit again and it will take him a few days to react to the meds, but how will he have the strength with an empty stomach? i myself have already started to frustrate now, but i know i cant give up!
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i don't like hama too. long time ago, it attack my mattress. i go to bed as usual suddenly my finger will itchy. that time my hand is under my head pillow.

so garu and garu my finger, it move to my hand and the hold arm. then to my next hand and arm, legs, body, back, neck. once you garu it, it will become macam bengkak. like there is banjaran titiwangsa, banjaran crocker, on your body. cannot sleep owww... i can't even close my eyes. crazy man...

then i need to wash the whole room. take a long bath with dettol. alhamdulillah, everything back to normal.
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sorry to hear about your kitten. you need to do the hard way, force to eat. if he didnt drink, force to drink. use the syringe.

else it won't work ubikeledek. and not drinking + not eating is a very bad sign. i don't want to scare you, but i'm just telling you the fact of what's happening if this thing happen.

i pray for your kitten health.. he is one handsome boy, swallow that toy feather is just so typical boys lah ahahah.. when i was kid i swallow newspaper LOL.
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QUOTE(mensa0106 @ Apr 11 2009, 07:39 AM)
hi there..im a new member..great forum dat we have here..
i have one problem,i just bought a new persian,her age is 1 month++,
we gave her milk n its look like there is no problem with dat.
when i gave her RC for babay cat, dis fella don want to eat...she just interested with milk only..
but before dis in the pet shop, the owner already expose her with RC.
wat is d problem with my cat?
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You sure the age is 1 months ++...

Kitten at age 1 month will still drink milk, and in the process of learning eating kibbles.

kitten who feed on milk and tasted milk will always want milk more then food. I mean, in the petshop if the shop didnt feed milk before, and suddenly you feed milk, sure the kitten will feel like, this is yummy than the hard food.

the petshop expose her RC, this is the way to teach them start eating. they may not eat it, and they may eat it. so you don't really know.

you do not have much problem actually, since at least the kitten is on Milk now. all you need to do is to teach her eat RC baby cat.

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just for your info..

Persian is a pedigree cat. When you buy pure breed persian, they MUST come with certificate (like surat beranak)

If your kitten do not have certificate, your cat will be Domestic Long Hair.

Read the 1 page of this thread for info.

remember, in our neighborhood (malaysia), many people still lake of this info. when ever they see cat with long fur, malaysian will automatically say "oh PARSI!"...

heheh but actually it is not. Persian totally look different from Domestic Long hair.

Try google "about Persian" then you will know.
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QUOTE(mensa0106 @ Apr 11 2009, 01:24 PM)
oo..just like dat?im just wory if my kitty don have enough nutrien..nway..tq 4 d idea..
o..one more thing...beside my persian,i also have another baby cat..male siamese..
same age with my female persian actually( 5 weeks)..
i put them in d same cage..and they always fighting each other..
im just confused are they playing or fighting?
is normal for dis guys?
im afraid if they got injured.. rclxub.gif
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yeap kitten play the hard way, they bite, they slap, and they guling guling like hindustan movie (act near the mountain).

so you just need to watch out for injured. injured can come anytime, even when they are not playing together. if you see blood or wound, then stop it. but normally they don't.

1 month ++ kitten, don't know about territory yet. don't know about the nature of cats. everybody is there friend, even if you have adult cat, they won't afraid with that big cat. they will jump on them.

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