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sweetsnoopy99
post Nov 2 2008, 05:37 PM

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hey my kitten she is almost 6 month and she is eating and drinking and playful,but the problem that she is not skinny but she is small compair to 6 month cat,he is still looks like 3 month kittey and the attitude also,but she is toilet trained already,
all i wanted 2 ask?
is she having grown up problem?
but she don't looks sick?
what shall i do?an advice before i decide 2 take her 2 doctor
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post Nov 2 2008, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 2 2008, 05:26 PM)
jalan sultan pun pernah gi...oug pun prnh gak...jalan peel belum...

u tiap2 bulan gi sane?? ur cat food brand ape??

u slalu gi vet mane??I nak tukar vet la...cam tak ok je yg ni...
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baru je pegi 2 kali, tu pun xsengaja terjumpa sebab suppose cari pasir kucing kat carefour but mcm xde yg berkenan. so melencong kat Queens Park and jumpa. hehe.

b4 this my hitam eat whiskas, then about a month ago his fur drops out and kena serangan fleas (i posted about it on last thread.) so currently using IAMs and RC Skin & Fur. dah boleh nampak bulu tumbuh balik. but still tompok² le. nxt few weeks ok kot. i notice eversince using current food, dah jadi gemuk pulak doh.gif

vet, my aunty from Melaka works with gov vet. so if anything i just ran to her. lol.

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post Nov 2 2008, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(__mill @ Nov 2 2008, 05:40 PM)
baru je pegi 2 kali, tu pun xsengaja terjumpa sebab suppose cari pasir kucing kat carefour but mcm xde yg berkenan. so melencong kat Queens Park and jumpa. hehe.

b4 this my hitam eat whiskas, then about a month ago his fur drops out and kena serangan fleas (i posted about it on last thread.) so currently using IAMs and RC Skin & Fur. dah boleh nampak bulu tumbuh balik. but still tompok² le. nxt few weeks ok kot. i notice eversince using current food, dah jadi gemuk pulak doh.gif

vet, my aunty from Melaka works with gov vet.  so if anything i just ran to her. lol.

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yala...hitam nampak gemuk...I also got cat name Hitam... biggrin.gif but die kurus laa...umur lebih kurg 1 thn lebih...

ur hitam age?
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post Nov 2 2008, 08:54 PM

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dekat 2 tahun. ^__^
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post Nov 3 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 1 2008, 04:37 PM)
ehehe ok ok kitten food... continue bagi ibu tu kitten food...

anyway long hair cat memang selalu ada masalah. especially the mix mix one... biasa lah, bila dah mix mix tu ada je kecacatan. sbb tu ada risiko bila mix mix kawin kucing ni.

as for long hair, normally before dia beranak, i akan bawa pergi vet check up. vet normally will trim bulu2 kat puting dia, untuk memudahkan anak menyusu. and my vet will check her nipples and check if she produce enough milk.

kalau u still feed the kitten with mother milk, u kena timbang kan kucing tu tiap tiap hari. untuk check increase in weight. mesti increase, no decrease ok!...

if u found decrease in weight, you need to bottle feed them with good pet milk beli kat petshop...

if the kitten weight increase while suckling the mother, then there should be problem...

as for now, u kena perhatikan, u suspek ibu dia kurang susu. so u kena imagine, 8 kitten suckling ibu kurang susu. so u need to weight semua kitten tu and see the different....

good luck bro smile.gif

p/s beli timbang yang murah untuk buat kuih tu je.. yang untuk timbang tepung tu.. kalu dah ada kat rumah boleh gak guna.. nanti bley cuci balik smile.gif
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sad news, 3 kitten died today cry.gif
foster mother(kucing betina rumah jiran) yg my friend gune tu tiba2 x nak menyusu the little kittens dah ptg semalam,so all nite long my friend had to bottle feed them using milkadog fomula. this morning pun dia cuba to see if the mother cat leh nurse xpi still the same...no susu but the nipples are sooo big hmm.gif
by late evening 3 kittens died cry.gif betulalah apa org tua tua kata, kucing persian nie harap jer lawa tapi byk masalah doh.gif ...lagi baik kucing kmpg kita nie ah...
setakat nie the remaining 5 ekor is looking good...i dnt think they mind suckling from the bottle but all im affraid is that the nutrisi...yalah semua tau yg mothers milk is the best milk...semahal milkadog tapi still not tat good compare to mummy's milk smile.gif
entahlah Elf...wat masa nie berdoalah lebih...hopefully faith will be on my side expecially nie ialah first litter dlm family.


Added on November 3, 2008, 12:33 am
QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 2 2008, 05:03 PM)
u slalu gi petsmore mane??
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cik ina...say pun ahli petsmore tongue.gif ...tapi ash selalu pie kat cawangan ss15 subang jaya, sbb tulah yg paling dekat gan tmpt tinggal saya.

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post Nov 3 2008, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 3 2008, 12:31 AM)
sad news, 3 kitten died today cry.gif
foster mother(kucing betina rumah jiran) yg my friend gune tu tiba2 x nak menyusu the little kittens dah ptg semalam,so all nite long my friend had to bottle feed them using milkadog fomula. this morning pun dia cuba to see if the mother cat leh nurse xpi still the same...no susu but the nipples are sooo big hmm.gif
by late evening 3 kittens died cry.gif  betulalah apa org tua tua kata, kucing persian nie harap jer lawa tapi byk masalah doh.gif ...lagi baik kucing kmpg kita nie ah...
setakat nie the remaining 5 ekor is looking good...i dnt think they mind suckling from the bottle but all im affraid is that the nutrisi...yalah semua tau yg mothers milk is the best milk...semahal milkadog tapi still not tat good compare to mummy's milk smile.gif
entahlah Elf...wat masa nie berdoalah lebih...hopefully faith will be on my side expecially nie ialah first litter dlm family.
having kitten is not a easy job.

that puting bengkak, kalo tak kempis2 boleh jadi infection payu dara. so better watch out. that milk inside the mother mesti keluar habis, now it sound like blocking nipples. when it blocks, many things can appear especially infection.

my Abang, Adik, and Kakak are all bottle milk because people throw them infront shop in tissue box when they are less than 10 days. they grew up with factory milk tongue.gif yet still healthy. anyway they are kucing kampung, which means healthy. kucing mix mix ni payah, most of the mix mix kurang daya tahan badan. so need more extra care.

you need to check everything on the kitten, tengok jari jari, tengok bentuk badan, kena buka mulut tengok dalam mulut. long time ago, a friend of mine punya DLH give birth to 5 kitten, 3 of them mati, ingat kan mati sebab tak sihat. rupa rupa nya kecacatan... buka mulut and see tiada lelangit, no wonder susu tak masuk perut, all the susu keluar balik via nose. kesian.

most cats yang di mix kan dgn Persian flat face, kena hati hati. potential to produce kucing cacat. i saw some of them hidung senget, gigi ada panjang ada pendek, gigi terabur, sumbing, bibir tak rata etc.

hopefully you manage to handle the kittens and the mother.
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post Nov 3 2008, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 2 2008, 03:51 PM)
no.1 = Food .. what food you feeding? if the supermarket food, yes that is what you get. try to change to at least premium cat food like royal canin, science plan, proformance, iams, etc.

n0.2 = on heat and stress ... if you cat is not neuter/spay, stress and on heat can drop their fur. stress and on heat cat - when they are horny, they won't groom theirself.. all in their head is sex sex and sex tongue.gif

no.3 = grooming ... frequently groom your cat, which include, brushing/comb their fur everyday to make them nice. bath with good shampoo like from coconut oil (back 2 basic product), and a conditioner will make them look nice. if you have money, bring to grooming shop smile.gif
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thanx bro for the fast reply.

no1: i give my cat iams. planning to change to royal canin but too expensive .. hehe

no2: this might be the reason why. =p ... my friends told me that it is time for my cat to find his mate. but is it true that if we spot black color under the cat's mouth means that they r horny sweat.gif ?

no3: will try send my beloved cat for grooming if i have time.


thanx again for the tips!

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post Nov 3 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(__mill @ Nov 2 2008, 05:40 PM)
baru je pegi 2 kali, tu pun xsengaja terjumpa sebab suppose cari pasir kucing kat carefour but mcm xde yg berkenan. so melencong kat Queens Park and jumpa. hehe.

b4 this my hitam eat whiskas, then about a month ago his fur drops out and kena serangan fleas (i posted about it on last thread.) so currently using IAMs and RC Skin & Fur. dah boleh nampak bulu tumbuh balik. but still tompok² le. nxt few weeks ok kot. i notice eversince using current food, dah jadi gemuk pulak doh.gif

vet, my aunty from Melaka works with gov vet.  so if anything i just ran to her. lol.

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So awesome your auntie!!!!!!!!! Jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD

Btw, i've found 1 over 3 of my lost kittens. Im soooooooooooo happy. Better one than nothing. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 3 2008, 03:25 AM)
having kitten is not a easy job.

that puting bengkak, kalo tak kempis2 boleh jadi infection payu dara. so better watch out. that milk inside the mother mesti keluar habis, now it sound like blocking nipples. when it blocks, many things can appear especially infection.

my Abang, Adik, and Kakak are all bottle milk because people throw them infront shop in tissue box when they are less than 10 days. they grew up with factory milk tongue.gif yet still healthy. anyway they are kucing kampung, which means healthy. kucing mix mix ni payah, most of the mix mix kurang daya tahan badan. so need more extra care.

you need to check everything on the kitten, tengok jari jari, tengok bentuk badan, kena buka mulut tengok dalam mulut. long time ago, a friend of mine punya DLH give birth to 5 kitten, 3 of them mati, ingat kan mati sebab tak sihat. rupa rupa nya kecacatan... buka mulut and see tiada lelangit, no wonder susu tak masuk perut, all the susu keluar balik via nose. kesian.

most cats yang di mix kan dgn Persian flat face, kena hati hati. potential to produce kucing cacat. i saw some of them hidung senget, gigi ada panjang ada pendek, gigi terabur, sumbing, bibir tak rata etc.

hopefully you manage to handle the kittens and the mother.
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need to quote this.

My sister plan to send our DLH for breeding.

I know that DLH got difficulty in giving birth. I;m so scared. cry.gif
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post Nov 3 2008, 12:09 PM

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hey my kitten she is almost 6 month and she is eating and drinking and playful,but the problem that she is not skinny but she is small compair to 6 month cat,he is still looks like 3 month kittey and the attitude also,but she is toilet trained already,
all i wanted 2 ask?
is she having grown up problem?
but she don't looks sick?
what shall i do?an advice before i decide 2 take her 2 doctor


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ELF!!! My 13months old Momoy is pyometra positive.. She was given her 1st contraceptive jab in early May. In the mid of July, she showed some sickness symptoms such as dhearroea (am i spelling this correctly?), vomit and lost appetite. I sent her to our vet. This vet said she probably ate something poisonous. She was given some antibotic and anti-dhearroea.

Her condition wasnt better after a week. So i sent her to the same vet again. The vet gave suspected she was having enterhitis, since there was some brownish discharge from her private part. Thevet told me the dscharge was coming form her anal. She was given jabs for her liver and antibiotics. I asked the vet if her condition was related to that contraceptive jab he gave her, but he denied..

Last week, i went to a new vet (a very young vet) and asked her opinion. After some diagnostic and palpate, the vet told me that my Momoy is pyometra positive cry.gif cry.gif She's going for her pyometra spay on 9 Nov. Please pray for her....
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OMG, i'm sorry for that. Will pray for its safety. smile.gif

Whats pyometra spay anyway?

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My kitten is same problem with sweetsnoopy.
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post Nov 3 2008, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Nov 3 2008, 12:54 PM)
OMG, i'm sorry for that. Will pray for its safety. smile.gif

Whats pyometra spay anyway?

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My kitten is same problem with sweetsnoopy.
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is ur kitten ok or had any medical problem?
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QUOTE(joehan @ Nov 3 2008, 04:16 AM)
thanx bro for the fast reply.

no1: i give my cat iams. planning to change to royal canin but too expensive .. hehe

no2: this might be the reason why. =p ... my friends told me that it is time for my cat to find his mate. but is it true that if we spot black color under the cat's mouth means that they r horny  sweat.gif  ?

no3: will try send my beloved cat for grooming if i have time.
thanx again for the tips!
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Iams should be ok, although i heard most feedback is fur drops.. but all you need to do is frequent grooming. we cannot blame food also, if your cat eat the most expensive food but now grooming will also make the fur drop.

I never hear about black color thing under cats mouth. but i know if it is below the chin its something like blackhead that we have on our face. most female cat will have this.

sign of horny the obvious one is, not eating, not grooming, weight drop, look terrible, look lazy, making loud sound.

sign of a male that is horny is, you check the tail.. one part of it look like oily.. eheh that is the meaning they are horny. be ready, they will spray your house with the male smell! yuck!
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Nov 3 2008, 12:09 PM)
hey my kitten she is almost 6 month and she is eating and drinking and playful,but the problem that she is not skinny but she is small compair to 6 month cat,he is still looks like 3 month kittey and the attitude also,but she is toilet trained already,
all i wanted 2 ask?
is she having grown up problem?
but she don't looks sick?
what shall i do?an advice before i decide 2 take her 2 doctor
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eheheh don't worry, all cats do not grow into the same size. just like us. short, tall, skinny, fat, average smile.gif

if she is healthy then everything is fine.

even they are siblings, the will be in different size.. example like my 3 siblings, the male is big and long in size, while female A is fat and short, and female B is long but slim.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 3 2008, 12:47 PM)
ELF!!! My 13months old Momoy is pyometra positive.. She was given her 1st contraceptive jab in early May. In the mid of July, she showed some sickness symptoms such as dhearroea (am i spelling this correctly?), vomit and lost appetite. I sent her to our vet. This vet said she probably ate something poisonous. She was given some antibotic and anti-dhearroea.

Her condition wasnt better after a week. So i sent her to the same vet again. The vet gave suspected she was having enterhitis, since there was some brownish discharge from her private part. Thevet told me the dscharge was coming form her anal. She was given jabs for her liver and antibiotics. I asked the vet if her condition was related to that contraceptive jab he gave her, but he denied..

Last week, i went to a new vet (a very young vet) and asked her opinion. After some diagnostic and palpate, the vet told me that my Momoy is pyometra positive cry.gif cry.gif She's going for her pyometra spay on 9 Nov. Please pray for her....
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first of all, im so sorry to hear about Momoy. I hope she will recover from pyometra soon.

I know pyometra sound hurt, because its like bacteria infection internally via the vaginal. and urine are all with bacteria.

my vet said most female cat that did not spay will have potential to get pyometra disease.

spay momoy for her own good. so she don't suffer in pain anymore.

send my warm regard and kiss kiss to your momoy! update us her progress ya smile.gif
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What is Pyometra?

In its simplest terms, pyometra is an infection in the uterus. Most cases of pyometra are much more difficult to manage than a routine infection.

Infection in the lining of the uterus is established as a result of hormonal changes. Following estrus (heat), progesterone levels remain elevated for 8-10 weeks and thicken the lining of the uterus in preparation for pregnancy. If pregnancy does not occur for several estrus cycles, the lining continues to increase in thickness until cysts form within it. The thickened, cystic lining secretes fluids that create an ideal environment in which bacteria can grow. Additionally, high progesterone levels inhibit the ability of the muscles in the wall of the uterus to contract.

The use of progesterone-based drugs can do this. Estrogen will increase the effects of progesterone on the uterus. Drugs containing both hormones are used to treat certain conditions of the reproductive system. Spaying your female cat will prevent this disease.

How do bacteria get into the uterus?

The cervix is the gateway to the uterus. It remains tightly closed except during estrus. When it is open, bacteria that are normally found in the vagina can enter the uterus rather easily. If the uterus is normal, the environment is adverse to bacterial survival; when the uterine wall is thickened and cystic, perfect conditions exist for bacterial growth. When these abnormal conditions exist, the muscles of the uterus cannot contract properly. This means that bacteria that enter the uterus cannot be expelled.

Pyometra may occur in young to middle-aged cats; it is most common in older cats. After many years of estrus cycles without pregnancy, the uterine wall undergoes the changes that promote this disease.

The typical time for pyometra to occur is about 1-2 months following estrus.

click here to read more about pyometra

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thanx elfreakz ... all i can say is that u r very pro!
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Nov 3 2008, 01:07 PM)
is ur kitten ok or had any medical problem?
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Nop. Healthy like... xD
QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 3 2008, 01:54 PM)
eheheh don't worry, all cats do not grow into the same size. just like us. short, tall, skinny, fat, average smile.gif

if she is healthy then everything is fine.

even they are siblings, the will be in different size.. example like my 3 siblings, the male is big and long in size, while female A is fat and short, and female B is long but slim.
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Thannks elfreakz!
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Nov 3 2008, 03:25 AM)
having kitten is not a easy job.

that puting bengkak, kalo tak kempis2 boleh jadi infection payu dara. so better watch out. that milk inside the mother mesti keluar habis, now it sound like blocking nipples. when it blocks, many things can appear especially infection.

my Abang, Adik, and Kakak are all bottle milk because people throw them infront shop in tissue box when they are less than 10 days. they grew up with factory milk tongue.gif yet still healthy. anyway they are kucing kampung, which means healthy. kucing mix mix ni payah, most of the mix mix kurang daya tahan badan. so need more extra care.

you need to check everything on the kitten, tengok jari jari, tengok bentuk badan, kena buka mulut tengok dalam mulut. long time ago, a friend of mine punya DLH give birth to 5 kitten, 3 of them mati, ingat kan mati sebab tak sihat. rupa rupa nya kecacatan... buka mulut and see tiada lelangit, no wonder susu tak masuk perut, all the susu keluar balik via nose. kesian.

most cats yang di mix kan dgn Persian flat face, kena hati hati. potential to produce kucing cacat. i saw some of them hidung senget, gigi ada panjang ada pendek, gigi terabur, sumbing, bibir tak rata etc.

hopefully you manage to handle the kittens and the mother.
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hai el...

long time ago...I pun ade 1 kitten yg takde lelangit ...n at the end she died... cry.gif


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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 3 2008, 12:31 AM)
sad news, 3 kitten died today cry.gif
foster mother(kucing betina rumah jiran) yg my friend gune tu tiba2 x nak menyusu the little kittens dah ptg semalam,so all nite long my friend had to bottle feed them using milkadog fomula. this morning pun dia cuba to see if the mother cat leh nurse xpi still the same...no susu but the nipples are sooo big hmm.gif
by late evening 3 kittens died cry.gif  betulalah apa org tua tua kata, kucing persian nie harap jer lawa tapi byk masalah doh.gif ...lagi baik kucing kmpg kita nie ah...
setakat nie the remaining 5 ekor is looking good...i dnt think they mind suckling from the bottle but all im affraid is that the nutrisi...yalah semua tau yg mothers milk is the best milk...semahal milkadog tapi still not tat good compare to mummy's milk smile.gif
entahlah Elf...wat masa nie berdoalah lebih...hopefully faith will be on my side expecially nie ialah first litter dlm family.


Added on November 3, 2008, 12:33 am
cik ina...say pun ahli petsmore tongue.gif ...tapi ash selalu pie kat cawangan ss15 subang jaya, sbb tulah yg paling dekat gan tmpt tinggal saya.
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samela kite... rclxm9.gif sane price ok gak kan...


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