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post Mar 5 2009, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Mar 4 2009, 06:36 PM)
yeap the more you have the more you need to spend.

but if the different is only one and two, does not involve much budget.

i have 10 cats, monthly budget for food and litter is rm300. extra rm100 will be going to the cats bank, in case if there is needs such as vets, toys, treat, etc.

you need to see what food you are buying... if Royal canin is the expensive one. u can always go for cheaper one such as science plan and iams.

litter for 2 kittens does not cost much.
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wa...rm300 for 10 cats per month? sgt bagus tu...

me...mebe bout rm250 per month for 6 cats food n litter only...huhu..sometimes lebih cuz have to buy litters...n i'm always changing the brands cuz haven't found the best ones sad.gif so cannot buy skaligus..thus more money have to spent tongue.gif

el...

can we do a review of cat litters that the other cat lovers use? sharing is caring rite? tongue.gif I wanna find an affordable and bagus punye litter lah...




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post Mar 6 2009, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(mizeily @ Mar 6 2009, 01:20 AM)
wa...rm300 for 10 cats per month? sgt bagus tu...

me...mebe bout rm250 per month for 6 cats food n litter only...huhu..sometimes lebih cuz have to buy litters...n i'm always changing the brands cuz haven't found the best ones  sad.gif so cannot buy skaligus..thus more money have to spent tongue.gif

el...

can we do a review of cat litters that the other cat lovers use? sharing is caring rite? tongue.gif I wanna find an affordable and bagus punye litter lah...
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yes. because i get 7-10% discount.

food 15kg SP adult = rm172.05
litter i got mine for rm20 to 23, per month 5-6 packs
so roughly total rm300 lah kan. sometimes rm400 kalau ada beli toys, treats, etc.

if i have pregnant cat or even small kitten, the budget can go almost rm500 per month. but lucky i don't have any.

so budget wise, semua depends on food brand, litter brand, adult or kitten food, how you feed your cat (trust me some people just pour until full bowl - remember you need to keep your cat fit not overweight), how you prepare the litter (some people pour one bag into the litter box - for sure spoil faster.

so dealing with food and litter, the best way to do trial and error, and also estimate. See how much your cats eating per day, how much litter they need per day. from here you can do your budget wisely.

yes you can share about litter here smile.gif i always want to know if there is a good one with cheaper price. prefer clumping one with good odor control.
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post Mar 6 2009, 09:11 AM

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Hi elfreakz,

i found another kitten, and this time the right paw seems abit limp...and im very troubled that it seems she is unable to take out her claw on the right paw..but the left is ok...any ideas?

anyway i will take her to the vet..

about litter, im using the carrefour litter as it is oni rm4.9 for 5kg...if got any other brand slightly more expensive but is better then might change to that....
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i wanted to ask something. can speak in malay or not? i dont know how to explain in english.


kucing betina saya ni dah 6 bulan. 2-3 hari ni die selalu buat bunyi pelik2 ni mcm lapar/nak pegi tandas tapi xnak pun. lepas tu die asyik aje tolak2 muke die dekat bende2. mcm meja la kaki org la. selalu sgt lah and bunyi pelik2 tu die buat. ape kena dgn kucing saya ni?

saya ade satu assumption, tapi mcm mintak2 bukanlah senario ni.


anybody can suarakan their opinion? i am really worried/
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post Mar 6 2009, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(whitewolf @ Mar 6 2009, 10:41 AM)
i wanted to ask something. can speak in malay or not? i dont know how to explain in english.
kucing betina saya ni dah 6 bulan. 2-3 hari ni die selalu buat bunyi pelik2 ni mcm lapar/nak pegi tandas tapi xnak pun. lepas tu die asyik aje tolak2 muke die dekat bende2. mcm meja la kaki org la. selalu sgt lah and bunyi pelik2 tu die buat. ape kena dgn kucing saya ni?

saya ade satu assumption, tapi mcm mintak2 bukanlah senario ni.
anybody can suarakan their opinion? i am really worried/
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em..sy pun ade sekor kucing betina cam tu gak..tp tidak la bunyi pelik2..just die asik meow n gesek2 n sondol2 kpale die...nk ckp on heat, sudah d neutered...mebe el can answer smile.gif

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it seems i have to change my cat food lah..cuz rite now i just started using RC Kitten which cost Rm176 for 10 kg..Litter...mostly rm20 and above...mebe kene try SP pulak buln depan..huhu..

anybody tried ACANA kibbles?

stratocaster --->

i tried using the care4 litter b4...but the smell ar rclxub.gif can only tahan for like 2 days..after that have to throw out all the sand..n the clumping is very bad (they got clumping types rite? tongue.gif )

LItters that I had tried :

Fussie cat litter the lemon n apple smell

this one is very cheap compared to other litters about RM18-23...
at first I felt that this was the best...good at clumping and the smell ok lah..but after buying the 5th - 6th packet, the clumping power became very less so every 2 days like dat have to throw out everything...

CLever cat litter
Rm20 per 10L packet...bad clumping, bad odour control

Clean N Easy Clumping Cat litter
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rm22 per 10L but I have seen the promotion for this one at Pet Safari b4..so price mebe less..

clumping power is very good..but the odour control not very good..

Queen Cat litter
most expensive litter i ever bought..Rm30 for 10L at petshop in damansara

odor control very good..but clumping ok la...pecah2 abit..

Feline Pine the clumping type

Biodegradable litter..rm24 for 5lb..

Good clumping and odor control..but for ppl who doesnt like pine/ wood smell, dont go for it..plus have to vacuum / sweep always cuz the litter is very fine..n always fly out if cat likes to dig tongue.gif


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post Mar 6 2009, 01:41 PM

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FYI for the forumers who have replied concerning more than a 1 cat household.....

I have 16 cats ok? I have 4 pups 1 dog also which are outside.

I will leave it at this and won't try to explain anymore.

Thanks
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QUOTE(stratocaster @ Mar 6 2009, 09:11 AM)
Hi elfreakz,

i found another kitten, and this time the right paw seems abit limp...and im very troubled that it seems she is unable to take out her claw on the right paw..but the left is ok...any ideas?

anyway i will take her to the vet..

about litter, im using the carrefour litter as it is oni rm4.9 for 5kg...if got any other brand slightly more expensive but is better then might change to that....
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yaiks limping on the paws? since you just found the kitten right, i'm sure the best way is to bring to the vet. since you never know the daily activities of that kitten. he/she might bitten by other animal, object gets in, or born that way.
good luck thumbup.gif and high five for rescue a kitten (sorry no high five similies here eheheheh)

as for the carrefour litter, this one is not clumping right? when it the cat poo the grey sand change into darker color?
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post Mar 6 2009, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Mar 6 2009, 02:48 PM)
yaiks limping on the paws? since you just found the kitten right, i'm sure the best way is to bring to the vet. since you never know the daily activities of that kitten. he/she might bitten by other animal, object gets in, or born that way.
good luck  thumbup.gif and high five for rescue a kitten (sorry no high five similies here eheheheh)

as for the carrefour litter, this one is not clumping right? when it the cat poo the grey sand change into darker color?
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hopefully she is not born that way!! she can walk n run ok, but got some limping sign..i tried to press n twist the leg abit but she dun feel pain...im worried its some nerves thing!! oh no!! sigh....

d carrefour litter not clumping i think, coz when poo n pee the white sand will become yellow..wat is clumping?
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QUOTE(whitewolf @ Mar 6 2009, 10:41 AM)
i wanted to ask something. can speak in malay or not? i dont know how to explain in english.
kucing betina saya ni dah 6 bulan. 2-3 hari ni die selalu buat bunyi pelik2 ni mcm lapar/nak pegi tandas tapi xnak pun. lepas tu die asyik aje tolak2 muke die dekat bende2. mcm meja la kaki org la. selalu sgt lah and bunyi pelik2 tu die buat. ape kena dgn kucing saya ni?

saya ade satu assumption, tapi mcm mintak2 bukanlah senario ni.
anybody can suarakan their opinion? i am really worried/
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Kalau dari segi umur tu, memang 6 bulan tu masa masa kucing gatal nak kawin. tapi tak semua kucing mula dari 6 bulan. tengok keadaan.

dari tanda2 macam buat bunyi pelik2, dan gesel2 kepala tu, memang sah gatal nak kawin. ehehehe.

nak tengok dengan senang lagi, cari orang lelaki ehehe.. kucing betina ni suka kat manusia lelaki, dia akan hidu badan lelaki especially bahagian ketiak. kalau dia syok giler kat area tu, memang sah tongue.gif horny tongue.gif

kalau dia tidak menunjukkan apa apa tanda sakit, no need to worry.

kalau kamu tak mahu benda ni berulang, pergi vet, dan kembiri kucing betina tu. hidup dia lebih aman (paham2 lah kan kalau gersang tak ada jantan). lagipun terlalu awal 6 bulan untuk mengandung. tak elok utk kucing tu.
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Mar 6 2009, 12:32 PM)
em..sy pun ade sekor kucing betina cam tu gak..tp tidak la bunyi pelik2..just die asik meow n gesek2 n sondol2 kpale die...nk ckp on heat, sudah d neutered...mebe el can answer smile.gif

el --->

it seems i have to change my cat food lah..cuz rite now i just started using RC Kitten which cost Rm176 for 10 kg..Litter...mostly rm20 and above...mebe kene try SP pulak buln depan..huhu..

anybody tried ACANA kibbles?

stratocaster --->

i tried using the care4 litter b4...but the smell ar  rclxub.gif  can only tahan for like 2 days..after that have to throw out all the sand..n the clumping is very bad (they got clumping types rite?  tongue.gif )

LItters that I had tried :

Fussie cat litter the lemon n apple smell

this one is very cheap compared to other litters about RM18-23...
at first I felt that this was the best...good at clumping and the smell ok lah..but after buying the 5th - 6th packet, the clumping power became very less so every 2 days like dat have to throw out everything...

CLever cat litter
Rm20 per 10L packet...bad clumping, bad odour control

Clean N Easy Clumping Cat litter
user posted image

rm22 per 10L but I have seen the promotion for this one at Pet Safari b4..so price mebe less..

clumping power is very good..but the odour control not very good..

Queen Cat litter
most expensive litter i ever bought..Rm30 for 10L at petshop in damansara

odor control very good..but clumping ok la...pecah2 abit..

Feline Pine the clumping type

Biodegradable litter..rm24 for 5lb..

Good clumping and odor control..but for ppl who doesnt like pine/ wood smell, dont go for it..plus have to vacuum / sweep always cuz the litter is very fine..n always fly out if cat likes to dig tongue.gif
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Oh you feeding kitten food, that's why budget tinggi eheheh. Yea SP kitten seem to be good for its price. someone can update the price of SP kitten please.

as for the litter, i also use fussie cat litter, and another one katty cat litter (i think made in MY) price almost similar with fussie but the smells are green apple and strawberry. last time katty cat litter was pack in blue box, but now they put down the cost and pack like other litter. smile.gif

thanks for the great review, i think i will stick to fussie and katty.. (bunyi macam nama orang je kan) eheheh


Added on March 6, 2009, 3:05 pm
QUOTE(stratocaster @ Mar 6 2009, 02:55 PM)
hopefully she is not born that way!! she can walk n run ok, but got some limping sign..i tried to press n twist the leg abit but she dun feel pain...im worried its some nerves thing!! oh no!! sigh....

d carrefour litter not clumping i think, coz when poo n pee the white sand will become yellow..wat is clumping?
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yaiks don't press press eheheh scary lah if you do that. shocking.gif

clumping is beku. the litter become like keras, batu, beku when the cat pee on it.

u live in land property or apartment? i tried that carrefour before, gosh i can't stand it. cheap but i need to use 1 pack everyday eheheh because it spoil so fast, rm4.5 x 30 days = rm135.

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oh. i pun ingat dia nk kawin dah. bt then yela. shes still young.
so i shd consult a vet and kembiri my cat? ape kembiri tu? lol.
too bad theres no man kat rumah ni. cnt check lah.
bt this morning she was meowing and gesel3 sume kan. and i ade male cat. my male cat ni terys terkam dia je. and she ws like willingly give in je.
HAHAHAHA.


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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Mar 6 2009, 02:55 PM)
Kalau dari segi umur tu, memang 6 bulan tu masa masa kucing gatal nak kawin. tapi tak semua kucing mula dari 6 bulan. tengok keadaan.

dari tanda2 macam buat bunyi pelik2, dan gesel2 kepala tu, memang sah gatal nak kawin. ehehehe.

nak tengok dengan senang lagi, cari orang lelaki ehehe.. kucing betina ni suka kat manusia lelaki, dia akan hidu badan lelaki especially bahagian ketiak. kalau dia syok giler kat area tu, memang sah tongue.gif horny tongue.gif

kalau dia tidak menunjukkan apa apa tanda sakit, no need to worry.

kalau kamu tak mahu benda ni berulang, pergi vet, dan kembiri kucing betina tu. hidup dia lebih aman (paham2 lah kan kalau gersang tak ada jantan). lagipun terlalu awal 6 bulan untuk mengandung. tak elok utk kucing tu.
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oh im replying for this btw. whitewolfs post.

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QUOTE(crx23 @ Mar 6 2009, 03:50 PM)
oh. i pun ingat dia nk kawin dah. bt then yela. shes still young.
so i shd consult a vet and kembiri my cat? ape kembiri tu? lol.
too bad theres no man kat rumah ni. cnt check lah.
bt this morning she was meowing and gesel3 sume kan. and i ade male cat. my male cat ni terys terkam dia je. and she ws like willingly give in je.
HAHAHAHA.


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oh im replying for this btw. whitewolfs post.
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dah obviously gersang lah tu. since u have male cat juga kan. male cat lah yang selalu turn on the female cat. becareful, you might not want your kitten pregnant. seolah olah macam budak tingkatan 1 mengandung. adeh!

kembiri ni buang organ pada kucing untuk mengelakkan dia membiak tanpa di rancang. dan juga ada byk kebaikan lain kalau kembiri kan kucing.

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We have referred to the "Jawatankuasa Kemajuan Islam Malaysia" regarding the neutering of pets. Below is the "fatwa" issued by JAKIM (July 2002):

"All pets like cats and dogs are allowed to be neutered or spayed in order to maintain the health and welfare of both the animals and the community."

"Bahawa mengembiri binatang kesayangan seperti kucing atau anjing hukumnya adalah diharuskan dengan sebab-sebab tertentu iaitu bagi menjaga muslahat ummah."

After studying the messages of the aforementioned "mazhab"s and the medical viewpoint of the SPCA animal experts, 'JAKIM' has decided that neutering of cats for reasons of 'maslahat' is acceptable. It is in agreement with 'qaedah' (way) Fiqhiyyah which states "To choose the lesser of two evils".


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kembiri = neuter ? oh yeke... tapi macam mereka berdua xde lah ape2 pun, macam xsuke ade lah. yang male cat tu pun dah neuter dah. selalu separate je mereka ni. ni contoh bunyi yang die buat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpqkcCsP-bg

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QUOTE(whitewolf @ Mar 6 2009, 07:19 PM)
kembiri = neuter ? oh yeke... tapi macam mereka berdua xde lah ape2 pun, macam xsuke ade lah. yang male cat tu pun dah neuter dah. selalu separate je mereka ni. ni contoh bunyi yang die buat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpqkcCsP-bg
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kalau tengok dari posisi duduk tu, macam kucing nak mengawan.. betina gersang memang akan selalu duduk macam tu. punggung naik, ekor naik... she seem to look healthy from the video.

if let say dia on heat nak kawin.. hati hati kalau ada kucing jatan yang masih boleh mengawan. tak pasal2 betina tu pregnant. dia muda lagi kan.
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hi everybody, do u guys know is there any nanny for cats? my mum wanted me to give away my cat as she worries about my breathing problem. but i love her too much, i cant even sleep for these few days after she went to sleep at my bf's place. cried every night b4 i slept. im not thinking of putting her up for adoption. she cant stay with my bf for long term, so im thinking to get a nanny. like what human kids have. 1 week 5 days. i provide foods and toys. preferably in subang or sunway area. my last choice will be, renting a cheap room for her. but i just afraid she will be lonely. guys....pls help!!!
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Hey guys, i need help..recently i found a kitten, at that time she was healthy and chubby..on da night i found her, she got cirit birit and vomiting..

nden she refuses to eat and only drinks plain water untill now..now she gone skinny and only eat a little..she refuses everything i gave her to eat..
anyone have any idea or has acounter da same prob before..

How much money do i need to take her to da vet since i never gone to one before..
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QUOTE(mynookieman @ Mar 7 2009, 08:56 PM)
Hey guys, i need help..recently i found a kitten, at that time she was healthy and chubby..on da night i found her, she got cirit birit and vomiting..

nden she refuses to eat and only drinks plain water untill now..now she gone skinny and only eat a little..she refuses everything i gave her to eat..
anyone have any idea or has acounter da same prob before..

How much money do i need to take her to da vet since i never gone to one before..
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what food you feeding the kitten? if kibbles, then that kitten might have stomach pain. since the kitten was a stray before. they dont eat kibbles. when u feed kibbles, changes involve and it effect the stomach. vomitting involve possibility because of the reaction towards the new food.

you sure need to visit the vet. vet will normally deworm and give the kitten anti biotic if sick.

prices cannot confirm, because i don't know the actual problem. besides different vet different price. basically less than RM50, if they vaccine your kitten then less than RM100. Just get ready rm100 should be no problem.

then you need to feed the kitten chicken. go buy some chicken meat, half boil it with water ONLY. then separate the chicken with the soup. cut the chicken into small pieces. and the soup for drink.
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Mar 6 2009, 03:01 PM)
Oh you feeding kitten food, that's why budget tinggi eheheh. Yea SP kitten seem to be good for its price. someone can update the price of SP kitten please.

as for the litter, i also use fussie cat litter, and another one katty cat litter (i think made in MY) price almost similar with fussie but the smells are green apple and strawberry. last time katty cat litter was pack in blue box, but now they put down the cost and pack like other litter. smile.gif

thanks for the great review, i think i will stick to fussie and katty.. (bunyi macam nama orang je kan) eheheh


Added on March 6, 2009, 3:05 pm

yaiks don't press press eheheh scary lah if you do that.  shocking.gif

clumping is beku. the litter become like keras, batu, beku when the cat pee on it.

u live in land property or apartment? i tried that carrefour before, gosh i can't stand it. cheap but i need to use 1 pack everyday eheheh because it spoil so fast, rm4.5 x 30 days = rm135.
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stay at landed property...
yes ur rite, the carrfour sand not the best quality...however for my two cats...i use 1 pack every 2-3 days...what brand are you using now??

and i just bought IAMS kitten trial pack hehe..gona let them try awhile...
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Pet Wonderland (Mid Valley Megamall)

Science Plan kitten tuna 2kg RM 53.00
Ketty Love 5kg lavender RM 16.20
Hartz Infusion Conditioning Shampoo 18oz RM 30.60
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Total RM 99.80


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Comin soon (from carrefour?):
1 Litter box
2 Eating plate/bowl

Free stuff:
Newspapers
Used cardboards

Delay:
frontline (3 "bottle"??") RM 50++


Any other? (I really hope no)

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