hi guys!

LittleGhost & jigon

First this is the Foobar2k Q&A, so we discussed all about fb2k right?

first of all, i do agree with some of your points but in fact how many of us really undertstand music? even including myself. Well, fyi i only sticked to WMP11 for music.... not even foobar2k. i used foobar2k mainly to fulfill my curiosity in comparing both players.

after numerous testing, if u would read my earlier posting. together with number of other people, we did realized the differences in applying different bit/sampling rate without them realizing what i use. does this prove anything to you??

*** my point is there are differences in those resampling plug-ins. principally, i do not encourage "colouration" of music. but on the other hand, if other people like why stopping them?

placebo effect is rather subjective here. in real life there bundle of so-called "placebo" effecting our life. so are treating any sort of comparison is "placebo" here?

recently, before buying my new hifi set, i have visited many audio shops. And different sales person, have different technical knowledge & theory. Some expensive items & less expensive one.... And one thing i realized, do u want / prefer in listening to others in order getting your choice? after much audition, i chose my own preference that suit my taste bud. so the theory is just like choosing your spouse/wife. we dont depend to others preferences in life, right?

As a starter, i do aware that all the CDs are mastered at 16bit/44.1Khz. But again, it is all depends the mastering process. thats the reason why some CDs are good and bad in quality. with a good CDs like those 24bit/192khz remastering CDs it limits Data Accuracy Losses during those processes. it is not the matter of purity or not....

resampling might gives you more "accuracy" in the music. There's more to it than that; a sampling rate of 44 does not accurately capture or re-create the complex frequencies generated by real guitars. thats why a resampling comes in. it is not distorting persay


cheers!!!

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 21 2008, 02:51 PM

agreed partially, i do aware of the customizability of foobar2k, no doubt. but i dont fancy media organization. i m used to inserting CDs when i needed them. other words, i prefer a simple interface just for a simple person like me.

as i said, resampling does not downgrade a piece of music. it is not a "colouring" agents liking the SRS, CMSS, etc.... it resample to enhance music by making it more "ACCURATE".

Simply, not all people nowadays dont know what they wanted. Maybe these are one of those factors resulting many divorcing cases.

I do listen to others for advice, thats the reason i give foobar2k, winamp, ttplayer for a try..... u got it but again, it is still my self-preferences

u still dont get my point....

anyway, lets go back to foobar2k Q&A.

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 21 2008, 03:19 PM

chilled out.... when it comes to human perceptions, everything go out the windows. maybe i might understand as GOOD as you. my point is not correct or wrong? it is purely my point of view. It seems that u are forcing others to believe what u believe. well, not me. u said the argument is"pointless", well u r right in some human sense. Again do reflect otherwise.

I am still in the learning stage, so does others. DO FORGET this is a forum to exchange "thoughts". All earlier posting, i never mentioned the word "FACTS".... just to remind it is purely, my POV. Nothing wrong or correct. It is the matter of YES or NO.

open your mind and read the following articles ....

here is some of the excerption

"The effects of upsampling are greatly debated. While it is true that upsampling does help us in attenuating the amount of jitter caused by sampling errors and an inaccurate clock, whether this jitter is audible or not is a point of contention."

http://www.audioholics.com/education/audio...al-audio-page-2

The sound quality of 44.1 kHz digital audio data can be dramatically improved by
employing a “poor” oversampling digital anti-imaging filter having a slow roll-off in place
of a “good” digital filter having a fast roll-off and a high stop band attenuation. It was
shown that the ultrasonic images output by this “poor” filter is responsible for the
improved sound quality, reducing certain forms of non-linear distortion such as that due
to the differential non-linearity found in all DACs. There may very well be other, subtler,
forms of non-linear distortion in DACs, which may also be reduced by signal-dependent
ultrasonic dither.


http://www.mlssa.com/pdf/Upsampling-theory-rev-2.pdf it is a PDF.


and also this: - http://www.thetadigital.com/upsampling.htm

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 21 2008, 04:21 PM

u r right.....

foobar2k beta is out anyone try it??

cheers!




p/s: anyone who is interested in bit & sampling issues please refer to the followings.... happy reading

Sample rate and bit depth - an introduction to sampling
Digital Audio/Sound - Professor, Department of Interdisciplinary Studies UMDNJ-School of Health Related Professions
BIT DEPTH - Doug Eisengrein
Bit Depth - help on choosing the appropriate bit depth to work with
How can I get the best sound quality?

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 22 2008, 01:42 AM

Change log:

* Media Library now automatically keeps track of any changes made to its folders; no more need to manually rescan them.
* Improved compatibility of file type associations with Windows Vista.
* No more delay when playing/enqueuing files from Windows Explorer.
* The installer now includes “portable mode” that works in limited user contexts and doesn't make any changes to system configuration, registry, etc.
* New Converter user interface.
* Built-in Matroska support.


i m eying on the new "converter" and the Matroska support.... it seems interesting.

apparently, it might not work with some of the DSP & resampling plugins... finger cross it will.


*** Since we always, benchmark 3d v card for comparison purposes. why not we start here the RightMark Audio Analyzer 6.2.0 thread. This is a new released on 1 oct 2008

RightMark Audio Analyzer is an independent audio measurements open-source project. The test suite performs various tests of electroacoustical performance of sound cards and other real-time audio devices. Testing is accomplished by playing the test signals and recording them after they pass through the testing chain.



This post has been edited by gac: Oct 22 2008, 02:58 AM

SC which dont support 44.1KHz thats funny....

oh... ok. i knew it.

the funny thing is why in the first place. those sc designed for not supporting native 44.1? arent the market is flooded with 44.1 standard?

well, fine....

what r u trying to say here? no offense i dont get u.....

cheers!

ok lets go back to the original thread.....

yew.... a few tiring holidays with my family.

for me, not for arguing sake, resampling will justify depending on the source. lossless format might be fine not lossy one.

but not all sc support ASIO



Bro Fariz mind elebrate further


yape, why down-sampling?

as for you, just can try out kernel. if u r using vista, used wasapi

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Added on October 29, 2008, 3:37 amwhat does the implusive DSP does?

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 29 2008, 03:37 AM

would u prefer convolver or tube DSP? i know is 2 different thing.

i downloaded the tube DSP but is a .7z file what i do with it?

currently, i do try to use DSP
1) secret rabbit
2) convolver
3) advance limiter

is this correct?

cheers! & thanks

This post has been edited by gac: Oct 30 2008, 02:44 PM

what a retard of me... bcoz i m using winace. thats why can unzip 7-zip files. all done

thanks



This post has been edited by gac: Oct 31 2008, 03:27 PM

no need DSP? something like WMP11

how do i display chinese character from CDs... i tried tagging with freedb but it come out crap.

how do i display chinese character from CDs... i tried tagging with freedb but it come out crap.

EDITED mod: something is funny here, i remember i posted my post the last. why suddenly it change to earlier???

cant find the Arial Unicode MS? Arial can?

regional settings? i m using Vista

thanks FARIZ! i got it


edited:

i m using IBIZA, everything is fine but cant show album art. i tried to edit the string but can do it.

my download album arts are located at c:/user/pictures/Album Art




This post has been edited by gac: Nov 9 2008, 11:49 PM