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 What is considered to be a TRUE and MATURE..., ...professional gamer in COD 4?

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post Oct 2 2008, 08:36 AM

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LOLWUT? Joke of the day. Narakka players in general are hardly pro, most of them are assisted by less-than-popular perks. Argue all you want that its part of the game, stop whining, yadda yadda, but face it, you ain't gonna get any better if you continue hugging your P90 with steady aim like your mushy blankie. And now, 3x frags are a trend in small maps with >20 players! *facepalm*

Fragnetics' players has better standards for some good ol' TDM brawling. And then there are scrims...
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post Oct 2 2008, 01:19 PM

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for me matry and GL just to easy to use and too darn annoying,

plus p90 is an mini mg. it can take out anything in its range.

although it cant compete with a real MG.

but i just hate tube and matry users.

for me, if you want to be a true player of COD4 lay down the matry and keep ur hands off the Nade Launcher.

you wont learn anything.

This post has been edited by slainemcroth: Oct 2 2008, 01:21 PM
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post Oct 2 2008, 01:35 PM

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if your response is fast enough you can hear the sound of bomb dropping wut, hardcore mode even better no bomb detector
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post Oct 2 2008, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Oct 2 2008, 08:16 AM)
HAHAHAHA COME NARAKKA PLAY LA IF UR PRO biggrin.gif
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wakakakakkaka narakka pro??man that the lamest statement of the century,with it lag under power server and full of kiddo that you call a pro?narakka is just same level as garena only..
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post Oct 2 2008, 05:21 PM

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Actually i prefer to play in BVPN more than narakka. But its always empty other than weekends sad.gif

Beh tahan all the nade fest in narakka
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post Oct 11 2008, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Oct 1 2008, 11:01 PM)
P90? WEAK??? You've gotta be kiddin me. Smgs have the most accurate hip firing accuracy of all the classes and P90 stand out of them all for the fact that it fires 925 rpm (same fire rate as M249 and M16's 3 round burst). The only weapon that can beat P90 in terms of rof in the smg category is Uzi (950rpm). And let me tell you why Uzi, although deals the same amount of damage as P90 per bullet and slightly higher rof, is actually weaker than P90:

1. P90 has 50 rounds of ammunition per clip compared to Uzi's 32 rounds. In combat, not all rounds fired will hit the target. Unless if you're leet enough to put the first 3 bullets right into the enemy's torso, P90 will stand out in prolong combat.
2. Here's a little recoil comparism between the 2 weapons (the higher the value, the higher the recoil, dum dum  tongue.gif [the negative value shows different direction]):
Uzi
adsViewKickPitchMin = -50
adsViewKickPitchMax = 80
adsViewKickYawMin = 75
adsViewKickYawMax = -75

P90

adsViewKickPitchMin = -30
adsViewKickPitchMax = 60
adsViewKickYawMin = 60
adsViewKickYawMax = -70

Obviously, as the number had shown, P90 have lower recoil compared to Uzi.

You might be wondering why I'm comparing P90 with Uzi when you're comparing P90 with RPD/AKs. That's because different category of weapons merit different playstyle. There's absolutely no way that you're gonna run n' gun with a LMG as effectively as a SMG and it's pretty unlikely that you'll gonna camp better with a SMG than a LMG. The reason why I'm comparing Uzi and P90 is because Uzi has the closest characteristic to P90 than other smgs (just for your information, I think Uzi is pretty balanced along with other smgs). Combat experience and in-game values have shown that the P90 is slightly overpowered compared to other smgs.

Well, thats all my rant I have to type for today. I bet some of you guys will be like  blink.gif . It's my semester break anyway, so I have all the time to post some junk like I always do.  tongue.gif
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What if I tell you that although the P90 has the blessing of low recoil, high rate of fire, and abundance of clips, it is NOTHING compared to a PRO who is able to KILL you FIRST with his/her RPD/AK (due to it's superior weapon damage) and HIS REFINED marksmanship?

I've experimented many times although the P90 is good for n00bs who has no experience in accuracy, it is NO MATCH to a player WHO CAN AIM with an RPD or an AK.

In other words, no matter how WEAK or POWERFUL a gun may be, if a player CAN'T SHOOT WELL, he/she CAN'T DO SHIT.



This post has been edited by Noobimus: Oct 11 2008, 11:41 AM
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post Oct 11 2008, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Noobimus @ Oct 11 2008, 11:39 AM)
What if I tell you that although the P90 has the blessing of low recoil, high rate of fire, and abundance of clips, it is NOTHING compared to a PRO who is able to KILL you FIRST with his/her RPD/AK (due to it's superior weapon damage) and HIS REFINED marksmanship?

I've experimented many times although the P90 is good for n00bs who has no experience in accuracy, it is NO MATCH to a player WHO CAN AIM with an RPD or an AK.

In other words, no matter how WEAK or POWERFUL a gun may be, if a player CAN'T SHOOT WELL, he/she CAN'T DO SHIT.
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As I've already said earlier, it's a moot point to compare the P90 with RPD/AK-47 because different category of weapons merit different purposes/playstyle.

If you compare P90 against other smgs, the P90 is slightly overpowered. Which is why so many phuckin noobz like to use it....

.... just imagine if a PRO uses it. GG. brows.gif
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post Oct 11 2008, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Noobimus @ Oct 11 2008, 11:39 AM)
What if I tell you that although the P90 has the blessing of low recoil, high rate of fire, and abundance of clips, it is NOTHING compared to a PRO who is able to KILL you FIRST with his/her RPD/AK (due to it's superior weapon damage) and HIS REFINED marksmanship?

I've experimented many times although the P90 is good for n00bs who has no experience in accuracy, it is NO MATCH to a player WHO CAN AIM with an RPD or an AK.

In other words, no matter how WEAK or POWERFUL a gun may be, if a player CAN'T SHOOT WELL, he/she CAN'T DO SHIT.
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That is why they ban it in competitive play. Because THEY ALL CAN SHOOT.

And FYI RPD is a gay weapon as well. Don't know why no one's taken it out of the Malaysian ruleset yet.

100 rounds ready to fire and wallspam without reloading. Wtf?

This post has been edited by Strayfah: Oct 11 2008, 01:18 PM
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post Oct 11 2008, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Oct 11 2008, 01:16 PM)
That is why they ban it in competitive play. Because THEY ALL CAN SHOOT.

And FYI RPD is a gay weapon as well. Don't know why no one's taken it out of the Malaysian ruleset yet.

100 rounds ready to fire and wallspam without reloading. Wtf?
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RPD ghey? idk man, coz the M60 has lower recoil and higher CQC damage compared to RPD.

FYI, Deagle is ghey as well. tongue.gif

It's superior base damage, hip firing accuracy, and penetration rendered no good reason to use other pistols other than the silencers.

But hey, since it's not banned from tourney, I'm sooooo gonna use it tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2008, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Oct 11 2008, 01:41 PM)
RPD ghey? idk man, coz the M60 has lower recoil and higher CQC damage compared to RPD.

FYI, Deagle is ghey as well.  tongue.gif

It's superior base damage, hip firing accuracy, and penetration rendered no good reason to use other pistols other than the silencers.

But hey, since it's not banned from tourney, I'm sooooo gonna use it  tongue.gif
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haih everything is ghey la nowdays...its like a trend,like you and aeon before hmm.gif hmm.gif whistling.gif
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post Oct 11 2008, 01:56 PM

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Isn't the M60 the mounted machine gun?

About the Deagle, it's definitelya good gun. But in Malaysian ruleset with HC mode, I'd rather go for USP or M9. Better accuracy and higher rounds.

Deagle's accuracy is pretty bad sometimes and only has 7 rounds.

This post has been edited by Strayfah: Oct 11 2008, 01:58 PM
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post Oct 11 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Oct 11 2008, 01:56 PM)
Isn't the M60 the mounted machine gun?

About the Deagle, it's definitelya good gun. But in Malaysian ruleset with HC mode, I'd rather go for USP or M9. Better accuracy and higher rounds.

Deagle's accuracy is pretty bad sometimes and only has 7 rounds.
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No, M60 is the 3rd LMG.

Although Malaysian ruleset for SnD is HC mode, the hp will be set to 60 instead of the normal 30. Screws up the balance if you ask me.
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post Oct 11 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Oct 11 2008, 01:56 PM)
Isn't the M60 the mounted machine gun?

About the Deagle, it's definitelya good gun. But in Malaysian ruleset with HC mode, I'd rather go for USP or M9. Better accuracy and higher rounds.

Deagle's accuracy is pretty bad sometimes and only has 7 rounds.
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but u know deagle will kill with 1 bullet in hc mode...if u can aim with deagle well enough....its quite imba tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2008, 02:41 PM

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If you can shoot your USP fast enough and control you're aiming, it's definitely a better choice. And basically, any gun in HC is imba tongue.gif.

The 30 hp difference would make a difference I guess but then again it's all down to preference. I'll definitely use Deagle in a normal mode.

I've only played on the Malaysian rulesets once so I'm not exactly sure but it's definitely Deagle, hands down, in Promod.


Oh now I know what the M60 is =P.

But IMO RPD > M60 because the RPD has less recoil and faster rate of fire. And definitely better iron sights.

The M60's iron sights are just...horrible. And the gun has a slower rate of fire as well.

This post has been edited by Strayfah: Oct 11 2008, 02:44 PM
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post Oct 11 2008, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Oct 11 2008, 02:41 PM)
I've only played on the Malaysian rulesets once so I'm not exactly sure but it's definitely Deagle, hands down, in Promod.
Oh now I know what the M60 is =P.

But IMO RPD > M60 because the RPD has less recoil and faster rate of fire. And definitely better iron sights.
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Promod? Is it the mod where they removed the gun sway from all weapons?

Er.... no, M60 has lesser recoil than RPD. Proven by the raw code in the iw_11.iwd file.

Here's a comparison between the RPD and M60 in terms of ViewKick
RPD
adsViewKickPitchMin = 15
adsViewKickPitchMax = 60
adsViewKickYawMin = -70
adsViewKickYawMax = 70

M60E4
adsViewKickPitchMin = 10
adsViewKickPitchMax = 65
adsViewKickYawMin = 50
adsViewKickYawMax = -55
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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Oct 11 2008, 02:41 PM)
The M60's iron sights are just...horrible. And the gun has a slower rate of fire as well.
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slow fire rate, but high damage.

M60 + Stopping power = 1 shot kill in HC. Basically a 100-bullets sniper rifle.

If M60 has the fire rate of M249SAW= GG lah.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 11 2008, 03:03 PM)
slow fire rate, but high damage.

M60 + Stopping power = 1 shot kill in HC. Basically a 100-bullets sniper rifle.

If M60 has the fire rate of M249SAW= GG lah.
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If HC hp is normal (30 hp), ALL weapons can kill in 1 shot at short range WITHOUT stopping power.
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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Oct 11 2008, 03:12 PM)
If HC hp is normal (30 hp), ALL weapons can kill in 1 shot at short range WITHOUT stopping power.
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wacko, I mentioned "sniper rifle" there... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2008, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 11 2008, 03:22 PM)
wacko, I mentioned "sniper rifle" there... biggrin.gif
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Hmmm.... then lets see what are the weapons that can be considered as sniper rifles other than the sniper rifles themselves:
M16
AK-47
G3
M14
MP44
M249
RPD
M60
Deagle
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post Oct 11 2008, 04:29 PM

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Well maybe the M60 does have less recoil but then again you can't shoot shit with an iron sight like that so it defeats the purpose. RPD still prevails =P


And sorry kompressor, but I really don't get your point lol

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