That is.... if you're playing in pub servers.... How would you like it if you're playing competitively? (eg. tourney)

Ah~ it's always nice to host a game in ModWarfare and type in these codes in the console "~"

/set weap_allow_p90 0
/set attach_allow_assault_gl 0
/set perk_allow_specialty_grenadepulldeath 0

then they'll join the game and start whining "where's my favourite weapon???"

Well, I wouldn't practice my spilt second retreats if I were you, running from martyr nades isn't that hard anyway. I would practice tossing back the nade like this guy.


Oh yea, when I whine and b*tch about martyrs, I don't b*tch because they poop out a nade everytime I kill em. I b*tch because the fuse time of a martyr nade is 2.5 seconds (normal nade has 3.5 sec fuse). I also b*tch about it because there is no way to stop those morons from pooping the nade (unlike last stand where it will not activate if the player is killed by headshot, explosives, knife and fall. Makes me wonder why didn't IW implement that onto martyrnoob. )

P90? WEAK??? You've gotta be kiddin me. Smgs have the most accurate hip firing accuracy of all the classes and P90 stand out of them all for the fact that it fires 925 rpm (same fire rate as M249 and M16's 3 round burst). The only weapon that can beat P90 in terms of rof in the smg category is Uzi (950rpm). And let me tell you why Uzi, although deals the same amount of damage as P90 per bullet and slightly higher rof, is actually weaker than P90:

1. P90 has 50 rounds of ammunition per clip compared to Uzi's 32 rounds. In combat, not all rounds fired will hit the target. Unless if you're leet enough to put the first 3 bullets right into the enemy's torso, P90 will stand out in prolong combat.
2. Here's a little recoil comparism between the 2 weapons (the higher the value, the higher the recoil, dum dum [the negative value shows different direction]):
Uzi
adsViewKickPitchMin = -50
adsViewKickPitchMax = 80
adsViewKickYawMin = 75
adsViewKickYawMax = -75

P90
adsViewKickPitchMin = -30
adsViewKickPitchMax = 60
adsViewKickYawMin = 60
adsViewKickYawMax = -70

Obviously, as the number had shown, P90 have lower recoil compared to Uzi.

You might be wondering why I'm comparing P90 with Uzi when you're comparing P90 with RPD/AKs. That's because different category of weapons merit different playstyle. There's absolutely no way that you're gonna run n' gun with a LMG as effectively as a SMG and it's pretty unlikely that you'll gonna camp better with a SMG than a LMG. The reason why I'm comparing Uzi and P90 is because Uzi has the closest characteristic to P90 than other smgs (just for your information, I think Uzi is pretty balanced along with other smgs). Combat experience and in-game values have shown that the P90 is slightly overpowered compared to other smgs.

Well, thats all my rant I have to type for today. I bet some of you guys will be like . It's my semester break anyway, so I have all the time to post some junk like I always do.

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 2 2008, 12:17 AM

The nade needs to be in your hands for a period of time before it's counted as suicide. Otherwise, it'll still be considered and your opponent's kill. In most cases, martyr nade's 2.5 sec fuse isn't enough for you to suicide when the nade is still in your hands. It needs to leave your hand to count as suicide due the the short period of time.

As I've already said earlier, it's a moot point to compare the P90 with RPD/AK-47 because different category of weapons merit different purposes/playstyle.

If you compare P90 against other smgs, the P90 is slightly overpowered. Which is why so many phuckin noobz like to use it....

.... just imagine if a PRO uses it. GG.

RPD ghey? idk man, coz the M60 has lower recoil and higher CQC damage compared to RPD.

FYI, Deagle is ghey as well.

It's superior base damage, hip firing accuracy, and penetration rendered no good reason to use other pistols other than the silencers.

But hey, since it's not banned from tourney, I'm sooooo gonna use it

No, M60 is the 3rd LMG.

Although Malaysian ruleset for SnD is HC mode, the hp will be set to 60 instead of the normal 30. Screws up the balance if you ask me.

Promod? Is it the mod where they removed the gun sway from all weapons?

Er.... no, M60 has lesser recoil than RPD. Proven by the raw code in the iw_11.iwd file.

Here's a comparison between the RPD and M60 in terms of ViewKick
RPD
adsViewKickPitchMin = 15
adsViewKickPitchMax = 60
adsViewKickYawMin = -70
adsViewKickYawMax = 70

M60E4
adsViewKickPitchMin = 10
adsViewKickPitchMax = 65
adsViewKickYawMin = 50
adsViewKickYawMax = -55

If HC hp is normal (30 hp), ALL weapons can kill in 1 shot at short range WITHOUT stopping power.

Hmmm.... then lets see what are the weapons that can be considered as sniper rifles other than the sniper rifles themselves:
M16
AK-47
G3
M14
MP44
M249
RPD
M60
Deagle

That's what EVERYONE sez. It common sense, but in reality, it's easier said than done.

Here are some quotes from the IW forum
These are just a few quotes out of many. Those bunch of Captian Obvious just kept stating what all our common sense already knew (run away, throw it away, bla bla bla). But what those fellow didn't put into comsideration is that during actual gameplay, things are alot more complex than that which results in the victim's death.

To me, martyr is a totally *insert profanity here* up perk coz it doesn't get canceled by headshot, grenade, knife or fall unlike last stand.


I think I'll have to agree with that one, it rewards players for dying

Hehe, AK-74u = ghey

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! FLAME WARS!!! Lets paaaaaarrrrrtiiiieeeee

Well, if every game has a few idiots with no life who goes so far as to study the game's code, I'm one of those idiots.

I've compared EVERY weapon in the game in terms of recoil, rof, dmg, hip firing accuracy, gun sway, magazine capacity, bullet penetration, etc... heck, I even went as far as to study the cartriges they fire (yes, it's in the game dammit, Deagle fires the .357 catridge in the game )

<------------------ No life b4stard

I can tell you now that of all the comparison I've done, P90 is slightly (yes, get me? slightly. It's a word you know? ) overpowered compared to other smgs. If everything for you is "based on experience", then chances are that I know more about those weapons than you do.

<------------------ egoistic b4stard

No offence intended. Plz dun flame me

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 13 2008, 12:44 AM

Well yea, different ppl have different play style. But lets say if there's 2 players with equal skill level and play style, one with MP5, the other with P90, chances are that the P90 will emerge victorious over the engagement.

OMFWTFBBQ!!! Martyrfreak!!! Kick choyster, KICK!!!

Kick choyster
(F1) Yes : 1 (F2) No : 0



This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 13 2008, 12:54 AM

But somehow, some ppl mind whenever I pick up a martyrnade and throw it back to my opponents.... dunno why...

In a for-fun game where everybody goes weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I don't mind if you tube or martyr etc. But then if play serious, I'll get emo if anyone use ghey stuff.

Nah, the best fun is Overkill 4x tube and martyr.

Nah, I just got lucky.

I remember one time when everyone was play knife only (or shotgun only, can't remember ), I killed this martyr dude and when he poops out a nade, I picked it up and threw it directly at my feet, 3 "fresh meats" came and we all died together. Hehe

But then everyone accused me of using martyrdom, I defended myself by saying that I threw someone ELSE's martyr nade. Host typed /kick Luftwacko and I'm out.

There's a cantonese saying "sek sei mao" (eat dead cat), apparently, I "sek" the real culprit's "sei mao". He's suppose to be kicked from the game instead of me

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 13 2008, 01:20 AM

Not really, I think automatic weapons have a higher chance of being detected than snipers.

Snipers will just go "BAAAAANNNNGGGG!!!" and vanish.

Fully automatic weapons like RPD/AK-47 will go like "BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...." in rapid succession, more easily detected than a single bullet.

And also, you'll get to see the tracers easily.

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 13 2008, 01:27 AM

3x frag, sonic boom and martyr will come in handy

I HATE skilled snipers, they'll plant claymores so strategically that even if you DO manage to sneak in with bombsquad, you'll have to trigger the clay in one way or another, by the time you manage to sneak behind the sniper, he'll have his sidearm already drawn out and waiting for you

Well, silencer don't really elliminate the muzzle flash problem but it merely reduces the flash (I'm toking in the real life perspective anyway so I don't know if the muzzle flash is really gone with silencers attached in the game, coz I usually pay more attention to the tracers)

Mmmmmmm..... Bog.... it's one of the maps where you can easilly tube across the map from one end to another.

Chill adi, chill...


This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 13 2008, 01:48 AM

What I really meant was, even if you KNOW that the clays are there and manage to sneak past unscratched, you'll have to trip a well placed clay one way or another, which alerts the sniper and gives him a few precious seconds to brace himself.

Nah, nade's blast radius is not increased by the perk. It's just that the damage is increased in such a way that you'll be in dipshit even though you're at the edge of the blast radius. (You're rite about 125% increase in explosives damage though ). Not sure about other explosives like RPG and C4 though, might increase the blast radius?

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Added on a sad tmrw
Sigh... nid to go sleep liao.... sem break over.... have to drag myself back to Uni tmrw...

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 13 2008, 02:27 AM