rthj, u shud watch the assembly with dts hd ma, dem shiok
set it to pcm

hopefully getting my red cliff by next week also.......hehehe....anyone tried that yet?

So that real life Joe will never get himself into home theater hobby in the first place don't you think? Why bother to spend thousands of ringgit on speakers, subwoofers, and receivers if you can't even tell what you're hearing?

Tell you what, even my wife can tell the difference, the only reason I'm allowed to continue on this expensive hobby.

And I totally disagree, audio is NOT just icing on the cake. Audio represents 50% of movie watching experience. I'm sure you wouldn't want to watch Live Free or Die Hard using your TV's puny stereo speakers.

As far as home audio goes, it's already the best we can get in terms of details, because it's already lossless, meaning bit-by-bit identical to the studio masters. The only way to improve now is the studio remix it to 11 channels, or make separate tracks for music, dialogue, explosions, and background to make it as pure as possible and let the future receivers to mix it onboard (crazy idea ).

For picture, the film masters are scanned and transferred to digital at 4k (2160p) resolution, that is double the resolution of blu-ray (1080p), and your TV! It then downscaled to 1080p before transferring to blu-ray. For digitally shot movies (i.e. Crank), 1080p is the highest they can go, because they are shot natively at that resolution.

So, I'm not worried about blu-ray, a 400GB blu-ray has already been developed. I'm much more worried about our display (TV, projectors, etc), which the highest resolution can be found now is only 1080p.

PS: Dirtrun, you watch your movies blindfolded?

One more thing, you receiver won't lights up DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD when your PS3 already decodes it. The receiver already receives it as PCM, there's no way it could tell the format. So yes, you don't need a receiver with DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD onboard decoding, the PS3 already done it for you. All you need is HDMI input with mulit-channel PCM capability.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Sep 23 2008, 04:26 PM

no money buy redcliff
i heard the audio dem powderful, can try all 3 types

wtf is this redcliff u all talk about? can link plz???

now pewpew time... i disagree greatly with u dirtrun.. i can honestly tell the difference between 7.1 and 5.1. in fact any Man / woman can.. as long as u have the 7 channels.. as for highdef for pics.. well.. that was my initial goal.. all for the pics.. but now with my speakers / woofer and some room treatment.. its more 60/40 with 60 being for sound.. speakers satisfy 2 of my senses, while tv only deals with 1.. and i can easily adapt to wat i see on screen as the 'detail' can easily be exhaustive.. unlike sound..

now back to real life joe.. if u mean average joe.. then the only reason why they couldnt tell the diff between 7.1 and 5.1 is simply because the average joe does not have a 7.1 / 5.1 setup.. as the average joe just stick to the 2.0 speakers from the tv.. now this said.. its not that the average joe couldnt tell the diff so much more so than it is impossible for the average joe to do so as they dont have access to it..

k back to topic.. for me it goes dts hd > pcm > ddthd

yes... PQ also sedap


btw... no one mention kill billie PCM ??

it rockssxss

callmevil, happy shopping
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wahh thx rx! finally.. ok hmm quite pedas eh the price.. haha ill wait for it to reach amazon b4 buying it.. heheh

gush..im still undecide wanna buy or not

In theory,if audio signal is decode in AVR should be better then in PS3,rite? Anyone here with PS3 and a decent BD payer can hear the diff,with/without AVR decoding....i hope not much diff cos no more $$$ to buy myself a BD player,B'day oledi lalu


those who cant hear the different is good thing actually becos u oledi save urself a AVR with all those loseless audio

1. got mixed theories on this myqd from pros on this myqd.. some say theres no audible difference btwn ps3 pcm to avr vs bitstream to avr..
2. how can u not hear the difference.. ur sitting there with 7 channels around u.. when the movie is 5 channels u will of curz hear sound coming from where.. then when 7.1 comes up, automatically the sound become more and the sound from behind oso can hear..

actually i put my money into the sound system first....way first before i bought my 1st lcd tv......

11 years ago...started watching movies with DTS tracks on 14" and 20" CRT...muahahahaha.

but now...i still dont have 7.1 speaker setup. too lazy to add the last 2 channels. plus the wiring....a bit of pain in the butt.

how about warlords? anyone tried that? any good?

This post has been edited by rthj: Sep 23 2008, 05:11 PM

Wow,

Ur wife got great ears.. My wife still dont know how to on my gear.. kekeke

Sorry .. tats all ur opinion.. n I humbly beg to differ.. I really cant tell de huge diff tat u find in de new formats.. really

Havin de moola does not make a person an instant expert, dont u think??

Watch movies blindfolded - eh perli ka.. I alrdy said for odo tests.. must test it by 'blind' tests not wif affirmative psychological add ons - read xtra info to back up ur senses.. anyway I m only statin wat most ppl will feel on dis lossless odo format - not tat I agree .. but tats still a fact..
Oso on odo being 50% of movies.. well I hv a lot of old movies in Sd which is mono n I thoroughly enjoy watchin them eg Gods must be crazy .. awfully funny but only 1.0..

Just my humble opinion..
Dirtrun

wife will know the different one...now my wife doesn't want to watch Astro using the Tv's speakers liao....she said sound funny and unnatural.....and for DVD, ori copy still ok, but she prefer blu lar.....

we must poison the other half also, so that our hobby can go on....

thats a dangerous preposition mpyw... dont u think? at least 1 go nuts on hd, the other can keep the one in control.. but if both go nuts.. u might find each other spending more on hd than on other things and even worse in knee deep of debt... haha

i think the best telinga in msia goes to mpyw and familly

warlords still ok

ever wonder why men are so particular about the details in the audio track? but when the gf/wife/mom/etc talks to him, the fella would go....'huh? what did you say just now?"

This post has been edited by rthj: Sep 23 2008, 05:24 PM

selective listener

Coz our wive talks in mono sountrack, masuk telinga kanan keluar telinga kiri but BD has at least 5.1.

hmmmm y first time with gf mono also bcome multichanal