man that also means if its legalized we're gonna get blaze orange tipped guns
ah well better than nothing >.<

yeah true! better than two tone guns in uk! hahaha the guns there are bloody fugly >.<

phillipines/usa, here i come!! >.<

what is orange juice? 0.o

you meant that literally? haha i tot it was supposed to represent something =.=''

time to play mini aegs =.=
to offset the size, we have to dual wield

guys, dont so stupid post those link la...

why so expensive wan ppl selling beretta for RM180-220 for new lol

yup and ur spoiled yue ge er is going for RM200 only brand new
lol
if u been paying attention to the thread u'll know who the seller is
got the link somewhere here dont ask me for it =.= not giving

anyone here knows where to get .20g bbs?

good price bro but .25g too heavy for my use la i need .20g
thanks for u offer bro

Honestly, idea 1 and idea 3 sounds good. Idea 3 i think is practiced in the Phillipines right? Except the armory. They are serialized, and a small fee must be paid for registration, but i not sure whether they are supposed to keep it in the armory or not.

As for idea 1, it is feasible as long as they are talking about passive RFID chips. Very cheap, but requires expensive readers. They cant be tracked more than a certain distance away but at least if someone wants to use it in a robbery, police can easily identify whether the gun they using is a airsoft or not.

But the problem with all this idea is that every piece has to be purchased via a 'sole distributor' which will do all the chipping/serializing. So no more oversea order, etc. Unless they open a service to chip already owned airsoft, for a small fee. That would be good.

Whatever the idea, just no two tone please .

Also, i think i can develope idea 1 further since i have some knowledge in rfid, as long as masoc isnt going the rfid line

This post has been edited by daijoubu: Oct 28 2008, 07:25 PM

An example of RFID application is the touch and go card. Basically a small piece of electronic sensor can be embedded into the airsoft and it contains various information such as owner, gun type, date of purchase, etc la. From there the gun can be tracked to its owner, etc.

A reader will be used to read the chip inside the weapon. Readers typically range from close range type 5cm radius, up to meters away, depending on type of chip, and type of reader.

Price of such chip are pretty low actually, averaging RM1 each, some cheaper, some more expensive, depending on their specifications.

I have further ideas for this, as well as i can build the system if need, but i require more research into it

I do agree with your idea but i believe having two bodies instead of a single body would be better as a single body would monopoly the whole sport, and government monitoring wouldnt do much to help .

Islanding idea is a good one tho. That would help to encourage illegal owners to register their piece

Multiple read can be done very easily. In fact when police is driving they can already know the amount of airsoft weapons within a certain amount of radius of their vehicle, provided they have the scanner in that vehicle.

All this reaction are true of now, but we are talking about in the future if we "CAN" educate the gov, and the people, on the sports. Of course if you want to actually legalize it at the first place, a proper system must be proposed that can convince the lawmakers that the system can reduce unwanted occurance from happening in airsoft sports ma .

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Added on October 29, 2008, 9:33 amYou do have a point, thats why, an unavoidable method might be to paint the tip orange blaze, or worse still, do dual tone lo. And seeing that we're not as liberal as US, but more like UK, if this were to happen, we're most probably gonna be dual toning the damn guns. Pink and green perhaps?

This post has been edited by daijoubu: Oct 29 2008, 09:33 AM

Or worse still, clear guns . Bleh so sad.

Then need to have 2 sets already. One for skirmishes and scrims, one for collection

perhaps . replicas are already legal what, but where got fun .

pink and dual tone seems to be the way to go la, but honestly damn potong stim leh >.<

[quote=nikolo98,Oct 29 2008, 01:20 PM]
Its good to see a lot of responsible enthusiasts in this forum. Kudos to all of you mates!

However, here's my take on control of these items. I think the whole chip thing is ridiculous. First of all, this is a toy (although it does fall into a grey zone of being just that), with that in mind, a toy will sell like a toy. If its legalized, I would assume prices would drop a fair bit from its current state and seeing as how active this market is as it stands currently, I dare say it will be a healthy market here in our beloved land.

Now if they sell like toys do, that means that there will be a vast market that becomes incredibly hard to control over time. Imagine the government putting chips in your toys from Hasbro....... that would mean the government would be fiscally hard-pressed to control it.

Once again, I'm not saying I have a better or more original idea but I think all we need to do is look to some countries that have them legalized like the US or Japan. If you understand their way of controlling these items, you'll realize that they will fit just nice into our public safety system. If you think only msian police are the only ones who practice shoot first, ask questions later, you are wrong. That's because ALL police officers are trained for life preseverance, namely their own life first. So if you pull out a gun (replica or not) and the officer deems you as hostile and decides you are a threat to his life, he WILL pop you first..... why do you think they practice so hard for a quick-draw?

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I do agree with your views on the police issue, where by they have the rights to defend their lives, this matter falls onto the public and the respective airsoft user to keep their weapons away from public places and from public eyes. What they do with the gun themselves, are their responsibility.

But as far as the chipping and serialing goes, the purpose of such a thing is to prevent the misuse of guns for illegal activities. For example, an airsoft owner is responsible for each and every weapon he buys, and is not allowed from transfering ownership. So lets say, if he lost his gun, and he doesnt report it, the gun could be picked up by a potential robber to be used in a robbery. If the police confiscate airsoft guns from criminals, they are able to track the gun back to its original owner, and maybe fine or punish the person for not taking care of their airsoft guns. Besides that, if a gun is overmodified beyond the pre-set power limit, again, the gun can be traced back to its original owner. Thus having a serial number/chip on the gun discourage airsoft owners from doing illegal things with their weapons, and encourages airsoft owners to be responsibile of the use of such weapons. We are not talking about Hasbro kids toys here. We're talking about adult toys that has the potential to inflict pain and cause damages. Thus it has to be regulated, and owner be encouraged to use it with respect and care.

Just like what the government is doing now with handphones. So that people wont just buy and use it for illegal purposes as now every mobile number has to be registered. If its lost, the original owner has the responsibility to report lost to prevent any liability upon himself.


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Yup basically, people musn't see airsoft just as some other toy, but treat it with respect and responsibility like they would with their mobile number, mykad, and driver's license. Just as all of those items can be used for illegal activities, so does airsoft weapons. This creates a sense of needing to take proper care of the airsoft weapons, not just chuck it around like any toy la. And like those items, when an airsoft weapon is lost, it has to be reported at police stations.

Btw bro warhawk, what is SOS?