I have doubt about this matter. How reliable is air purifier/ionizer since it involve big amount of money from RM 400-2000? Lets say I have small room and when somebody sleep there, the room was warm, smelly and dusty, if I put Ionizer inside the room, the air flow will be treated? Also I read from the product said that 99.9% no dust inside the room. is it true? Someone has try thsi product can share their experience here.

Thanks.

Bought a Sharp one (around RM7xx few months ago)..
I have a sensitive nose, and most of the morning I will have running nose.
After I used it, seldom has running nose...
For me, its worth for the investment.
For small room, just buy a small unit..



This post has been edited by seesawseen2k: Sep 16 2008, 02:32 AM

Nice one. I'm also having sensitive nose. One of my friend suggest me to look at this product. So, I'm asking more to give experience about theirs.

The one I bought is Sharp FU-425 (Grey Colour)
Actually there is an older model (with remote) , the newer one is white colour (design is nicer but without remote control).
For room, this size is good enough...

Do you notice any dust on your room after using Ionizer? How the air feel?

Amway's air purifier cost RM4k ! It has a test to compare with ionizer and if I am not wrong the speed to filter the air is almost 8 times faster.
Good price, good quality.

Hehehe... price is 4x the normal one... how could it be not better?

Haha...4k for home use, I think its waste but if you have big bungalow, sure its suitable

It is in fact a waste of money to buy an ordinary air purifier which fails to filter air at fast speed as the moment you inhale air, that air is still unfiltered.
I suggest you to buy an air conditioner + air purifier.

What is your proof you said that ordinary air purifier fails to filter air?

It fails to filter air at fast speed.
I didn't mean it fail to filter air.
The proof is ... you compare by put both air filter inside a room filled up with smoke. See how they perform and you will be surprise!

I saw they did a few demo in mid valley before..they go and spray smokes in a big transparent box...around the size of toilet...and then release smoke with the amount equivalent to a 500sqf room..i cant remember the company's name...but it cleans the the air in a few second...well the price is around 3k..so i dont bother to get more info...

Ahh Okay ...I missed that part of the statement. But when the price is about 8x than normal, it should be no surprise when 4k one perform better.

I got sensitive nose too. Cured w/ 1hp LG neo-plasma aircon.

Thats the problem with me. I cant use aircond since I will get flu everyday. So I guess I just wanna buy purifier to clean the air.

Arent Ioniser and air filter 2 different things? Ioniser produces negative ions to the air and charge the dust particles to (-)charge and get attracted to the ground and filters filter. My understanding may be wrong of course.

The calculation should be in this way.
Buy 1 good air purifier with 4k and its performance is equal to 8 normal air purifiers.
But if you buy 8 normal air purifiers, the price is about RM700x8=RM5600
It's still worthy to consider to buy 1 good air purifier, right?

Also, you must bear in mind that the function of air purifier is to filter air and to provide clean air to breathe. As what I had said, if you buy a normal air purifier which fails to filter air fast enough to let you breath clean air, why waste that money? It's unless every time when you want to breathe, you inhale very close with it and that seems impossible.

1. Amway Atmosphere Air purifier
- Recommended Room Size = 36m2
- Max Clean Air Delivery rate (turbo mode) = 7.1m3/min

2. Sharp KC6500E
- Recommended Room Size = 26m2
- Max Air Flow Volume = 5.1m3/min

For the difference of the price, the choice is yours.

How much?

From What I can see, the different is not too much and not actually 8x faster. Sharp retails price for that model is Rm1399 from my price list which I get from Air Cleaner House in PJ.

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Added on September 17, 2008, 10:43 amSharp KCC150E

Max Air Flow Volume (m3/m) :
Clean air mode 6.6 (Max) 3.9 (Med) 1.4 (Low)

Price Rm1499

This post has been edited by Putraskyline: Sep 17 2008, 10:45 AM

Oh .. is it ? Actually I heard that info from a friend of mine. It seems he told me the wrong thing. Sorry.
Then, forget about Amway. Buy Sharp. Good luck.

It is not Amway not good. Sometimes as consumer we have to choose value vs. performance.
Of course if you are Amway IBO, for sure you'll buy the product for Distributor Price & earn the PV.

As far as I know, IBO seldom buy their own products unless they have earned enough pv ($$) from their downline. 4k is not cheap. But as what Putraskyline said, the quality of Sharp is just a bit lower but the price is much cheap than Amway's. I guess it's all because of MLM.

This post has been edited by work_tgr: Sep 17 2008, 11:21 AM

Does those air conditioner with ionizer (panasonic) really works?

No problem thats why I'm open this thread. Main purpose to know other opinion and experience though. Sometimes Amway product like Electrolux, they are expensive but long lasting and do their jobs well.

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Added on September 17, 2008, 12:06 pmIts works because I feel different when I'm enter my friend room, which one of my friend using Panasonic Ionizer + Inverter and the other one using normal York aircond. And for the dust thingy, it work too but not strong enough. Maybe after this they will invent Aircond + Ozone

This post has been edited by Putraskyline: Sep 17 2008, 12:08 PM

Let me share somethings with you all

1. DO NOT buy air purifier from Amway, Gintell, Ogawa. They are not professional HVAC maker but direct/retail seller, they OEM from china and sell high price under their brand. 4K for a purifier? The price just rip me off, that's how AMWAY send their "diamonds" to oversea trip every year. A good air purifier just cost around 500-700, I recommend Acson, AAF and Sharp. Easy to get from major electronics shops and easy to get filter replacement.

2. I recommend to buy air-cond and air purifier seperately. The air-cond with purifier + ionizer easily cost 500 more compare to basic air-cond, why not get them seperately? The main function of air cond is to cool, not to purify air, that is why the filter used in air cond is not as good as filter use in purifier. Example, I use a AAF purifier which has 9 layers of filtration which include dust, bacteria, odor killer and ionizer, which air cond can give you 9 layers of filtration? try to take out any air-cond filter and see, it is just a simple layer of plastic net. Ionizer only cost few dollar in China, it is a tiny piece of electronics half inch thick and few inches long. It is not some high tech thing.

3. It does not mean the air flow faster the better, in fact it is the opposite. That is how Amway dealer con people, turn the negative into positive. The filter is less dense(bigger hole), that is why air flow faster. Same theory apply to your water purifier, 1um hole is always better than 5um hole which can block tiny particles and break water molecule. Anyone that tells you the filter with water flow faster (without using pump) is better is a definate conman.

My choice, Panasonic simple air cond (RM 850) + AAF purifier (RM 700) still cheaper than Panasonic Puretee RM 1750.

This post has been edited by KLsooner: Oct 8 2008, 11:10 PM

Thanx for sharing some good info here. What do you think if I put purifier AAF ( cost 450 ) into one of my room dimension 12ftx8ft ? My objectives is to make air flow better and prevent dust.

Well, no offence intended. Can't blame you for not knowing what is behind the technology involved in the Amway Air purifier. What kind of tests that the Amway put thru the purifier, the high tech behind the Fan motor design, the total electricity operation costs(how much it costs you to run the device for a period of 1 month), the effectiveness of the filter (surface area of pre filter, the HEPA filter and the Carbon filter), and the CADR rating.

There are more to it, but not going to get into it.

This post has been edited by mleong: Oct 29 2008, 11:32 AM

Putraskyline,

12ftx8ft is not big, the air purifier should serve you well.


mleong,

Why don't you enlighten us? I do not know Amway makes air purifier.

This post has been edited by KLsooner: Oct 29 2008, 02:12 PM

i'm in dire need of an air purifier too. i get severe sneezing fits everyday when I come back to my hometown. Whereas when I'm in KL, cyberjaya, they only come some times.

may I know which brand/product gives the most bang for buck? I currently reside in a roughly 4mx4mx3m room.

For room size < 20m2, use the smallest model from Acson, AAF or Sharp. What ever brand you buy, just don't buy Amway.

Too long to put it in words. But if any of you are interested, I can let you try out the unit for a few days. No obligations at all.
After all, it does not matter what "Way" if comes from, be it Amway, Cosway, Elken or what ever, if the products words for you, then it is good. FYI: Amway also have products from Sharp, Philips etc, just to name a few.

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Added on October 30, 2008, 12:05 pmJust a Guide. Cheers

http://207.140.180.12/dirsvc/aham.nsf/fraA...0Air%20Cleaners

http://www.achooallergy.com/air-purifier-buying-guide.asp

This post has been edited by mleong: Oct 30 2008, 12:05 PM

I got 2 air purifier at home, 1 is Amway cost me RM4k+, thge other is Sharp FUS25E cost me RM580.

If we talk about the cleaning power (faster circulation), Amway win, it has a powerful motor.

But for features and value, I choose Sharp over Amway, Sharp air purifier release - ion as well as plasma ion (combination of several + and - ions), while amway air purifier doesn't has this feature.

But of course Sharp purifier that I use has small motor will much lower air circualtion, but no doubt Amway is more powerful but for average usage, you won't always switch to max because it is too loud and it won't make you sleep if you place it in your bedroom at night.

So here is how I use my purifier, at the beginnning I run at full speed to clean the air in the room (both purifier comes with air quality sensor), after that switch to minimum level just to maintain the air quality before sleep. At the max level, both air purifier can clean the air very fast for my room with about 25m2. But if place in main hall or dining area (>35m2) Amway purifier can clean faster than the sharp one.

My final word is, don't spend too much on air purifier, they are all doing the same thing basically, just need to make sure it uses HEPA filter and carbon filter, extra function is nice to have eg ionizer or UV light. My advise to you is to get sharp air purifier, it is cheap and you can get filter replacement easier and cheaper, and the quality is good, if you have extra money you can get the latest model from sharp with more powerful motor, plasma ion, and air humidity control, it cost aroung RM1599 if not mistaken.

This post has been edited by viruz: Oct 30 2008, 04:21 PM

My home is nearby to cement machinery and every time the machine start to process the cement, the wind will blow to my home along with the filty dust...

Is it by getting more Air Purifier the only option I have in order to overcome this problem???

Thanks

Let me know if you are interested to test out.

come on... you're trying to hard sell Amway product over here???

Even if the Amway product works, I might as well get 6 Sharp Air purifier thats equivalent to Amway's price.
Assuming each Sharp Purifier cost RM 700...

This post has been edited by arthurlwf: Oct 31 2008, 05:20 PM

mleong,

I am not buying all your crap here. Why you are avoiding your own statement? If you can give all of us here with satisfactory answer, not only I will buy a unit of Amway purifier from you, I will join Amway as your downline. How about that, dare to take up the challenge?

First you said I do not know what is behind the technology involved in the Amway Air purifier, I assume you know more than me. Let see..

1) What kind of tests that the Amway put thru the purifier?
2) What is the high tech behind the Fan motor design?
3) What is the total electricity operation costs (how much it costs you to run the device for a period of 1 month)?
4) We all know what the filters are all about, Acson, AAF and Sharp all use the same filters, you have to show us what is so special about Amway's pre filter, the HEPA filter and the Carbon filter that make Amway charge us 3k more despite lack of Plasma-Ionizer?
5) What is CADR rating? How does it affect the quality of the product?

Don't come back with "Too long to put it in words, come try my product, no obligation" crap.

arthurlwf ,

I will suggest you to install air-cond and air purifier for the sake of your family health. Buy baisc air-cond (without fancy features like purifier, ionizer, oxigen pump), if you use air-cond for long hours and can afford a little bit more, get a basic Inverter type and any of the air-purifier recommended above except "AMWAY PURIFIER". If you really are going for Inverter type, get a Daikin or Panasonic DC inverter.

This post has been edited by KLsooner: Oct 31 2008, 08:41 PM

All,

I have a few Honeywell HEPA Air Filter. It works well and it lasted for 10 years. I bought one from MLM at RM3K to 4K. I believe it is the same one from Amway. And, I bought a few from USA at less than USD $200.

Some information:

1) Ionizer typically does not work in Malaysia unless you are in an air-con that the air-con is on 24/7. The humidity is too high in Malaysia. So, the ion / static electricity get discharged quickly.

2) Ozone, Plasma -> same problem with humidity.And, some people are allergic to Ozone.

Dreamer

besides sharp and amway. any nicer and better and cheaper air purifier?

I am also of the opinion that amway is not worth RM3-4k...... just dun make sense.

Seriously doubt that Amway will spend more R&D development costs compared to manufacturers like Honeywell/Sharp/panasonic etc.

nuodi,

If I am not mistaken, Amway resell Honeywell air filter. This particular air filter only sell for USD $200 in USA. So, there is a lot of markup by Amway.

Dreamer

now we know how their overseas trips are paid for

After reading this thread a bit itchy to buy 1 now...
Harvey norman/ senQ/ Carrefour...... where is cheaper?

Honeywell product is available in retail outlet too.
IIRC I bought a miniature one for a few hundred bucks in Jusco Midvalley which was meant for a small room.

b00n,

May I know how much you pay for this and what is the model number?? If it does not costs that much, I would not have to bring another one in from USA.

Dreamer

I can't recall the actual price though but it's definitely less than RM400. It was during a sales in Jusco MidValley during start of the year.
The model is similar to this (than since we're in Malaysia - maybe older variant):
http://www.kaz.com/kaz/store/product/5943c...4d724d726f0e7c/

b00n,

http://www.kaz.com/kaz/store/product/?Bran...b&BrandFilter=1

Do you see any of those model at Jusco??

The NEWER model has permanent HEPA filter that does not require replacement and it saves a lot of $$$.

Dreamer

Sorry can't recall.
Haven't went to the shopping mall for quite a while.

However IIRC the filter if we are to take care of it would last quite long too; i.e. vacuum and dusting out the dust regularly.
It was brought back to my hometown and manuals and all are there so I can't remember the details that much.

You can always try see whether they have it in Jusco Klang. But Jusco Midvalley does have a section that sells all this purifier, ionizer, plasma etc...

I know you won't buy it. after all you cannot afford it anyway. Since most of you all have doubts about the Amway air treatment, why not let the product prove for itself. If you want to join me as my downline, let's meet with open mind. How about that? (That is a sincere invitation)

dude, the guy does have a valid question and since you're promoting Amway's air purifier it's your job to clarify those question.
If you don't than you can't ppl to have doubt on you or the product you're selling:



To me, he seems to know better in regards to Air Purifier product than you do.
And like he mentioned and obviously to consumers, if the product is using the same tech and does the same job; why opt for a more expensive one?
So unless you can clarify why Air Purifier products from AmWay is more expensive I guess your recommendation wouldn't help here.

So basically you want me to list out all the specs, features etc? (don't want to violate any rules)

What rules?
It would be even better if you can back to back comparison on competitor products.
I.e. Price X vs price Y
technology X vs technology Y
featuer X vs feature Y
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.
.
etc

Than that would justify the price and paint more clearer picture.

OK. If you want to know, I can give you the list of features etc, but I will not compared it to any model. THere are too many out there. Maybe you can help me on a few of the models that you are interested to compare against. Sound good?

Better yet, here is a more detail info on it.
http://www.amway2u.com/miniweb/atmosphere/intro_en_US.jsp

This post has been edited by mleong: Nov 2 2008, 12:41 AM

Hey mleong,



You must be joking I can't afford a 4k air purifier, I believe everyone here can afford but rather save the extra cash for other things than spend it on a hughly overprice product and make us look stupid.


Typical MLM "Conning" tricks, after you try and nothing happen, the next phrase is "you should let time prove it to you, effect don show in a short time".

You are still avoiding my question (infact your own statements). The link you provide didn't help at all. How can you want ppl to believe in your crap while you can't even answer statements made by yourself. Quit Amway, don't waste your time, you won't be succesful if you can't even sell here.

This post has been edited by KLsooner: Nov 2 2008, 02:13 PM

@KLsooner,
Would appreciate if you list down the tech used by Amway vs other products so others can have a judge.

Stop the argument, I own Amway and Sharp air purifier at home, if you ask me which one is better, I would recommend you to get Sharp air purifier, Amway is just too over price.

Hi,

Just out of curiousity, why no one recommends Medklinn air ionizer?

Guess no one used it yet.
Anyway the price for Medklinn is kind of steep too...
You using it?

I am not using it but I am planning to buy an air purifier/ionizer. Went to Jusco and saw they advertise Medklinn. I agreed the price is at the steep side. But if it can really do it work well, I do not mind paying for that price.

I think I have to spend some time to reveal the truth of an overprice Amway air-purifier and the tricks used by Amway conman to con innocent people about their air purifier product.

First, let’s see the core technology in Amway purifier. I copy from mleong link above http://www.amway2u.com/miniweb/atmosphere/intro_en_US.jsp

• Clarus™ filtration system
• Pureflow™
• Intelli-Sense
• Turbo Power

Clarus™ filtration system:

• Features an activated carbon-based Odour Filter with a surface area large enough to cover 226 football fields or 17 million square feet.
Any one has any idea what is this about? MLM trick #1, show something after you read 10 times and still have no clue what is it talking about. Everyone know Odour filter is carbon (charcoal) filter, how can charcoal cover 226 football fields?
• The abundant capacity, combined with the HEPA Filter, eliminates 99.99% of airborne particle contaminants that pass through the filter.
Let see how AAF, Acson and Sharp filters advertise about their HEPA filter. All of them capture 99.97% of particles as small as 0.3 microns. Did you see the catch here? 99.99% of air particles compare to 99.97% of air particles at 0.3 microns, that is a huge difference here. It doesn’t means a shit one filter captures 99.9999999% of air-particles as BIG as 10 micron. MLM trick #2, say something it means great when you first hear/see it but it actually means nothing at all. Another example, 100% orange juice ( made from what? Fresh orange or half rotten orange or artificial orange taste?)

Acson and AAF http://www.acson.com.my/webshaper/pcm/file...%20Brochure.pdf
Sharp http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLand...58,1827,00.html

• Effectively removes pollen, bacteria, dust mites, viruses, smoke and impurities as small as 0.009 microns.
Acson and AAF filter removes particle as small as 0.01 micron, so AMWAY wins by 0.001 micron. Acson and AAF marketing people should shoot their own toe by not putting 0.009, there is an extra ZERO there, dammit. Now you know why sales tag always put 0.99 instead of 1.00.

So now you may ask, what so great about Clarus™ filtration system? May be the TM sign does make a difference? TM means trademark, only Amway can use it exclusively. Keep in mind, TM does not mean it is better, it can be worst. In this case, it is.

Pureflow™
• With the Pureflow system, you get both clean air and quiet operation.
With Pureflow™ system, without HEPA filter, can you get clean air? Is there any air purifier that cannot provide clean air? Can air purifier that cannot provide clean air call air purifier?
• The system eliminates excessive fan noise by operating only when needed.
In other words, the system will give you excessive fan noise by operating when needed. Operating got fan noise, not operating no fan noise, aren’t all the air filters in the world work in this manner? Correct me if I am wrong.
• Again with its energy efficiency, the system has also earned the ENERGY STAR® rating, drawing as low as 4 watts of power.
Trick #3, facing east pointing to the west. The whole statement never say a word about the product's energy efficiency, it tries to mislead reader into Amway purifier can run as low as 4W of power so you can save a lot $$. Low wattage does not means energy saving, it can be drawing 4W and only use 1W, 3W wasted, so efficiency only 25%. Furthermore the low watt operation only occurs when running at whisper mode, ultra low fan speed.

Intelli-Sense
• Utilises a built-in Particle Sensor that provides an automatic, one-touch mode that monitors and protects the air quality of your home environment - even when you're not there.
If need human presence, can it still be called intelli-sense? Since it has no TM mark so I can use it on AAF, Acson and Sharp. AAF, Acson and Sharp also have Intelli-sense. There is a LED button to show the dirty level of air and change colour accordingly.
• The Particle Sensor automatically adjusts the speed of the ATMOSPHERE to adapt to changing air conditions, thus giving you cleaner air in the shortest time.
In layman term, automatic fan speed control ma. Very common design la, everybody have this feature, nothing special. I would be surprise if somebody doesn’t have it.
Trick # 4, turn something normal into special by using some fancy name.

Turbo Power
• Turn on Turbo Power when you want to clear the air - fast.
Can you call something not fast turbo? Basic feature la, Sharp, AAF and Acson has 3 speed plus Auto, you can call the fastest speed turbo. Again, no trademark, so Sharp, AAF and Acson also have Turbo Power. I also have Turbo Power, when chase by mad dog.
• With a CADR* (Clean Air Delivery Rate) of 250 cubic feet per minute (equivalent to 7.1m³/min), Turbo Power is able to clear the air in a 390 square feet room within pproximately 30 minutes.
Since AAF and Acson use CFM instead of CADR, so no comparison here. For sharp, CADR is Dust 209 / Smoke 213 / Pollen 205. But Sharp air purifier is smaller in size, recommended for 330 Sq ft while Amway with CADR of 250 is design for 390 sq ft.

Next come price comparison,

Amway : RM 4,000.00 ++ (+PV) ( I purposely put 2 zeros at the end so it looks expensive with many zeros)
Acson and AAF: Rm 500 small, Rm 750 big
Sharp: RM 1250 ++

Extra goodies:
Amway: none.
Acson and AAF: nano-photocatalyst, UV, Ionizer
Sharp: plasma ionizer, inverterinverter rocks.

Now I would like to tell you why I give my choice to Acson, AAF and Sharp. I am not trying to tell you the best air purifier you can buy but the most dollar and sense air purifier in the market. I want you to spend your hard earn (could be soft earn by conning people) money wisely and don’t be conned by MLM salesmen.

Acson and AAF are 2 subsidiaries under OYL Industry, previously belongs to Hong Leong Group, now owned by Daikin Japan. Both air purifiers have exactly the same design and made by Malaysian home grown engineers. AAF is the #1 air filtration products manufacturer in the world, 23 plants worldwide is no joke and they made bacteria filter for Apollo 13, the one that sent Tom Hanks into the space and had problem coming back, of cause not because of filter failure. If you can read Chinese, you can read the company introduction on link below:

http://www.aafchina.com/english/cgal.files/frame.htm

On the presentation slide number 5, you will see Amway is one of AAF top customer. Do Amway have any other products that need air filters beside its Rm 4,000.00 “high tech” air purifier? So there is a possibility that Amway air purifier uses air filter bought from AAF China and made it in China. ( If that is the case, a Rm 4,000.00 made in China air purifier + filter, what a joke?)

We all familiar with Sharp as Japanese white goods maker. Their air-purifier is inverter driven, meaning they use permanent magnet DC brushless motor rather than simple AC induction motor to drive the air blower. In fan/blower application, PMDC brushless motor efficiency is 98% while AC induction motor is top at 40-45% efficiency. The DC one beats the AC one by few streets, no horse running. PMDC brushless motor is quieter and can run at higher speed with the help of inverter. Sharp has plasma ionizer and Japanese electronics design is top of the world, so I don’t mind spending a few hundreds more for the motor technology and extra features. It is clearly a better product.

For Amway, nah……….a overprice below average product that used by Amway salesmen to con their down line. If you don’t join Amway, you probably won’t spend Rm 4,000.00 for a product like that without doing price comparison with its competitors ( I don’t mean competitors like Elken, Cosway)

Lastly, for Amway air purifier, it looks like a premium air purifier, it sounds like a premium air purifier but it is not a premium air purifier, except the price.

This post has been edited by KLsooner: Nov 6 2008, 01:07 AM

Yeah, this model is in Jusco Midvalley. Went there yesterday and saw it. Forgot to look at the price though because was being entertained by the promoter from Medklinn which is promoting this: http://www.medklinn.com/cms/products-haven/ at RM699.

The downside of this product however with the honesty of the promoter is the device is only meant to last 5 years. After that, there would be a trade in program for a newer version. It is ioniser though and not typical air purifier which sucks and circulate air.

Aiseh, just grow a plantlah Cheaper and more enviromental friendly.

Medklinn is an air ionizer, it does not have a HEPA filter.

I am not here to promote Amway air purifier, but their US "Amway" ( Somehow in the states, Amway use Quixstar and other brands to promote their products) website has a nice video to show how Hepa air purifier is better than air ionizer.

http://www.springatmosphere.com/atmostech

If you really wanna buy Medklinn, you should read this before you make any decision.

Consumer Reports, a non-profit U.S.-based product-testing magazine, reported in October 2003 that air ionizers do not perform to high enough standards compared to conventional HEPA air filters. The exception was a combination unit that used a fan to move air while ionizing it. In response to this report, The Sharper Image, a manufacturer of air ionizers (among other products), sued Consumer's Union (the publishers of Consumer Reports) for product defamation. The Sharper Image's Ionic Breeze unit did meet all EPA guidelines, including less than 50 ppb ozone production.[citation needed] Consumer Reports gave the Ionic Breeze and other popular units a "fail" because they have a low Clean Air Delivery Rate (CADR). CADR measures the amount of filtered air circulated during a short period of time, and was originally designed to rate media-based air cleaners. The Sharper Image claimed that this test was a poor way to rate the Ionic Breeze, since it does not take into account other features, such as 24-hour a day continuous cleaning, ease of maintenance, and silent operation. The U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California subsequently struck The Sharper Image's complaint and dismissed the case, reasoning that The Sharper Image had failed to demonstrate that it could prove any of the statements made by Consumer Reports were false. The Court's final ruling in May 2005 ordered The Sharper Image to pay $525,000 USD for Consumer Union's legal expenses.[8] ( from wikipedia)

Today, I just bought AAF Pureaire 200 for my room Rm600 at AAQ shop in SS2. They also have outlet in most of Jusco store. The model I bought today priced RM699 at Jusco. If you want to see demo and most of air purifier brand , just go to their shop. Ask them for discount.

http://www.aaq.com.my

Wanna good air purifier?Healtra is non-ozone

(check out website www.healtra.com)

i have a medklinn but spoilt already
making some noise when on

medklinn generate ozone which is toxic gas and not suitable to prevent theraphy
USFDA(U.S Food and Drug Administration)came out this report.


(www.access data.fda.gov)


This post has been edited by ida83: Nov 6 2009, 07:19 PM

oh no ozone is a health hazard?? i bought a Super Eight air ionizer and i think it is working on Ozone Concept....

damn why didn't i know all these.........

err..healtra is using cluster plasma + anion generator 1 month electricity only RM1..
most safety gud maintanance and cheap..hehe..
no need big blower~portable size

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Added on November 20, 2008, 12:23 ammedklinn is basically generate ozone and USFDA(U.S Food n Drug Administration)
came out the report state that ozone is a toxic gas,
n not suitable for preventive theraphy..

(checkout website www.accessdata.fda.gov..)

This post has been edited by ida83: Nov 20 2008, 12:23 AM

226 football fields. Don;t get it. got so powerful or not, is this a trick.

Interested to know more about Air Treatment System may PM me. We are having a promotion this month. Please refer to my siggy.

Basically we're more into "research". So if you want to, it'll be much appreciated if the infor is shared among all of us here to the benefit of all. Who knows if some forumers buy it, you might get your business.
Btw, I loathed the "PM me for details" slogan.

saw some "Ionizer" in Giant by the brand of TAKADA only around RM100~RM200. whats the difference?

serious? if so cheap i think of trying. coz those branded reli too expensive already

wow, all of ur ppl very rich here
i get my ionizer at giant RM235 only

http://www.mytakada.com/air.htm

Model:
ISB-06B (with remote control)


i not so famous with this things
but as i know, ionizer is very low cost product
last time i wanna install panasonic aircon with plasma
but that panasonic supplier told me diffirent around rm300 for normal aircon and plasma
and he ask me nonit to take with plasma one coz they operate it and see the diffirent, jz one fan to take outside air to room only
they ask me to take fujitsu ionizer that original from japan cost 1k++
but i go to giant to get this takada ionizer, cheap n big
haha

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Added on January 19, 2009, 10:52 ami get mine one at giant RM23x
but jz bought, one year warranry
many function with remote control
helpful or not i not really know
haha
but i will go to get another one at my room
(previous one put at small living room)
but air flow quit strong

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Added on January 19, 2009, 5:35 pmhttp://www.aaq.com.my/catalog/Air-Cleaning-System/House-of-Air-Cleaners/Air-Purifier/SHARP-FU-S25E/


jz now went to sen Q bought sharp FU-S25E
RM689

This post has been edited by siokae0422: Jan 19 2009, 05:35 PM

Folks,

You DO KNOW that almost all ionizer or plasma stuff DOES NOT WORK in Malaysia. We have VERY HIGH humidity. So, unless it is an air-con room with air-con on 24/7, most of the ion and plasma will be dis-charged a few inches from the ionizer. This is BASIC HIGH SCHOOL Physic.

I had tried ionizer in car and it does not work too.

Dreamer

Anybody knows if AAF PurAir 200 release ozone?
I want to get an ozoneless air purifier, any recommendation?

which brand of car ionizer u tried? hav u try with smell of durian?

cherasbabe,

1) I am a EE and I know high school physic. If air ionizer cannot even handle dust, what should I spoil my air-con with durian??


2) Air ionizer work on the basis of electrical charges. Humidity discharge the charges. We have VERY HIGH humidity in Malaysia.

3) If you want to get rid of smell of durian, just buy some charcoal from grocery store. They are cheap and it works. They are cheap source active carbon that can react with those smell and neutralize it. It works in refrigerator and shoe rack too.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Feb 1 2009, 10:50 AM

sorry dreamer but please dont put charcoal in frig, it will cause lung disease like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis!

Could use a filter or something?

cherasbabe,

Show me your proof.

Charcoal is activated carbon. It is the same as the carbon filter that you use in the air filter. You do not stick your head into the refrigerator and breath. So, how could carbon in your refrigerator causes cancer??

Dreamer

there is no anion reading on takada unit.i test with a lot other brand also.no reading.that healtra air purifier
is proven good and cheap.only rm480.very portable unit.www.healtra.com.experience yourself.

So which one is good? AAF, Sharp or?

Anyone using the Philips AC4055 Air Purifier?
Im looking for a unit to recycle the air in my room,
the room is getting stuffy.
Any comments?

Thank you.

Update :
Checked out the Air Purifiers in SS2 Today,
was annoyed could not get any information from sales assistant for
Philips Air Purifier which was on display there...

Was also annoyed that they recommended me to get HAIER Air Purifier instead..
When asked how many units they sold of HAIER they ignored me for awhile and changed
to say other ppl grab more SHARP or HONEYWELL brands..
So I ask them why recommend me HAIER? They said CHEAPER MAR!

decided to get the SHARP KC-850E which was is very decent indeed
in features and the humidifier function is working rather well as I feel
the room air is much more breathable.
testing it at home now.

This post has been edited by babyakuma: Feb 22 2009, 03:37 AM

Philips AC 4055 for sale.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=113&t=943653&st=0

Air Purifier Cleans the Air Using filters, while Ionizer is more on making the air stick on surface instead of floating in the air so you won't inhale the dust am i correct?

Ionizer doesn't make the dust less they are either sticking on the floor or on you desk etc.

Those that use water to clean air are Air Purifiers?

HI KLsoon,

Although a bit late to reply (I only think to by one recently, so read out this forum). Thanks for the clear explanation. I will print it out and show it to my friend, and save my RM3K. Thanks.

actually what are negative & positive ions for?

noob question... these air purifiers generally operates under enclosed rooms or rooms with open doors n windows? i dont have air-con but thinking wanna buy one.

being said, are they very effective air filters operating under these 'open' conditions?

I believe it is expansive to maintain the filters especially those "mechanical" filters those that use perforated material to trap particles. I would suggest electrostatic filters where one can wash it regularly and reused...Trion air do have last time but dun know what happen to them now..

I got philips ac4054 in bedroom and ac4064 for living.

The 6 stages clean function is good and good design. filter can last for 5 years in non smoking environment.

I'm quite agree with this statement. After about 1 year experience using air purifier, the filter would cost you much. I have 2 change filter twice in 1 year cost about Rm200++. So anybody wanna buy purifier, you should know how much the filter cost. Honeywell filter are cheaper usually.

Hi babyakuma,

How is your testing of Sharp KC-850E? Which shop at SS2 you got it and how much?