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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Oct 26 2008, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 26 2008, 10:58 PM)
i'll get gigabyte or ASUS b coz of the 3 years warranty.
den get aftermarket cooler for it.
dis is wat i did wit my 4870.................... thumbup.gif

ha ha.........
my 4870 OC to 865/1000 wen doing vantage benchmark.
even 4870x2(stock) @ same vantage setting scores 9k+.......... rclxms.gif
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GPU score or Vantage 3DMark score?
That 4870x2 score that low? Last time I CFed 4870+4850 also 11k GPU & 3DMark scores.
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post Oct 26 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(commandboy @ Oct 26 2008, 11:06 PM)
for non ref 4870 ,gainward is the most powerful at the moment ma?
@tech3910, ur mean asus/gigabyte is ref 4870 right?stock cooler not good cooldown like 4850 ref ma?

thankx for answer btw... thumbup.gif
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Get Gainward 4870GS lar. Join Gainward clubz & won prizes, girls, get discount when buying games.
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post Oct 26 2008, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 26 2008, 11:10 PM)
i already get... i wonder 6000+ with 4870 how much o.o
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Last time my 5000+BE scored pretty low in Vantage. Quadie sure score higher than 10k CPU score.
Now my proc is 12k pts @ 3.3Ghz. The score is really depending on the CPU frequency.

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 26 2008, 11:19 PM)
Guys,whats the minimum stable overclocking for Gainward HD4870 GS?
EG : 825/2100
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Mine is 800/2100 after installing CCC 8.10. I can OC higher with 8.7.
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post Oct 26 2008, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 26 2008, 11:34 PM)
so u get the girl in the package as well?...................... brows.gif

seriously?
looks like reference 4870 oc better den GS.....................
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Yeah, I got the "feel" of the galz inside the package.
Most prolly it's bcos I'm a noob in OC thingy gua whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Oct 27 2008, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(commandboy @ Oct 27 2008, 12:04 AM)
really tempting... plus now nearly year end, all games coming out... 4850 tak cukup jus already...

btw 4870gs no black out issue right instead i heard 4850gs 1st batch got minor problem a bit ~
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Not experience the black screen problem so far. nod.gif
Grab this gun 4870GS & blast it at the coming games.
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post Oct 27 2008, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Oct 27 2008, 03:00 AM)
guess what W1zzard say about this?
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As expected. I lolled rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 27 2008, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Oct 27 2008, 09:23 AM)
4830 in stock here already? What's the selling price?
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Not yet, most prolly will be available on mid Nov, according to Netraid.
None official price is speculated to be only ~RM35 cheaper than its elder bro 4850.
Wish it's not the final price.
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 27 2008, 12:23 PM)
Ahahaha..I was expecting the price RM 400~RM450 whistling.gif
Eh i tot HD4870 GS And HD4870 Sonic has the same features right?Just different bundling right..?
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Yeah, exactly the same board & cooler. Different I/O panel.
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post Oct 27 2008, 02:39 PM

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zhen^wei's selling for RM480, and that's roughly about RM90 cheaper than their 4850.
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post Oct 27 2008, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Oct 27 2008, 03:44 PM)
Hmm, looks like it's way over the RRP then. AMD/ATI was aiming this card for $100 bracket IIRC, so the real selling price should be about RM 400. Guess getting one will have to wait.
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Wait for a while the price will drop, drastically when the time comes.
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post Oct 27 2008, 04:08 PM

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True, the sellers also want profit.
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post Oct 27 2008, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Oct 27 2008, 06:57 PM)
palit 4870 sonic and gainward 4870 golden sample have turbo switch feature laugh.gif
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2 bioses. If the one of the bios corrupted during flashing, switch to the 2nd bios. tongue.gif
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post Oct 27 2008, 10:51 PM

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Toxic cooler is not that good.
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post Oct 28 2008, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 28 2008, 04:57 AM)
overclocking my humble 4870 core clock..................... tongue.gif
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Damn it. That's horror clock! What a low mem clock. Benchies how? Artifacts?
May be u should open a 4870 OC thread? How's it?

QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 28 2008, 05:16 AM)
haven't got the goods, how to benchies la? maybe i should CF HD4830 instead.
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Cant wait to see CF 4830!

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post Oct 28 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 28 2008, 08:54 PM)
Anyone using the far cry 2 hotfix driver? I dont know why my crysis warhead is so unplayable and gamer setting. Choking all the time. My processor is e8400 @ 4ghz, hd4850 and 2gb ram. My OS is vista ultimate x64.
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Haha, downloading last piece of rar for FC2... oops finished finally.
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post Oct 28 2008, 10:24 PM

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Installed & played FC2 just now.
1st impression: superb picture quality.
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post Oct 30 2008, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Oct 30 2008, 06:10 AM)
help. my 4850 crashes when playing extremely intense games e.g. Grid -- temperature goes to over 100 degrees even when i've set the fan to 100% -- is there something wrong with my system? Temp of the card idles at 71 degrees under normal conditions with fan at 55 %.

Thinking of seriously getting a 3rd party fan/heat sink, but have no idea how to install them. Any suggestions what cooling solution to go to and if they can install it for me.

Thanks.
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That were pretty hot temps for 4850. My 4850 was about 60C idle, 80C on load @50% fan speed.
Increase the fan speed (might be too noisy) or get a 3rd party cooler such as Arctic Cooling Accelero Twin Turbo or ThermalRight T-RAD2

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Oct 30 2008, 05:43 PM)
fit a akasa neo with the 4870...
idles at 60C and load 70-80C.
hmm gud or bad temperature?

I heard Akasa Vortexx NEO is not good for 4870.
For some reasons the cooler is kinda worse than ATI ref cooler.

QUOTE(S4PH @ Oct 30 2008, 05:49 PM)
no matter how high i oc my gpu my amd x2 is bottlenecking my 4870 huhuhuhuhuhu  cry.gif
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It did happen to my 5000+BE last time. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Oct 30 2008, 08:37 PM)
well, u still nv tell us which mobo r u using. and will u b actually using another graphic card?
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Ur ThermalRight Trad2 still not reach ar? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 29 2008, 12:01 AM)
think again b4 installing the far cry 2 hotfix.
there is some report on the hotfix being buggy result in missing texture & transparent rock.
in short, it sacrifice IQ for FPS.
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Catalyst 8.10 hotfix kidnapped stones in Far Cry 2

Far cry 2 was released on Oct 22nd, and AMD reacted quickly this time by releasing a hotfix driver, optimized for Far cry 2. You can check the release note for details. We compared Catalyst 8.10 and the hotfix, it does help the game to get higher FPS.

Benchmark platform:

Intel Core 2 Duo E5200
ASUS Striker II Extreme
PowerColor Radeon HD 4830
KingSton DDR3 1066 1GBX2

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Yes the driver can boost FPS of Far cry 2, but do you still remember Furmark? Catalyst has “profiles”, which they can tweak different applications by monitoring name’s of executable, making them run slower or faster. And yes, you have to pay if it runs faster.

If we rename furmark, it runs hotter than keeping the name with ATI cards. It works the same with Far Cry 2. Under hotfix environment only rename it and the game runs as the same FPS as with Cat 8.10.

So, we take a better look at the environment, finally find out hotfix have chopped something off from the game. Read this pics:

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Catalyst 8.10 hotfix, stones messing!

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Catalyst 8.10

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