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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Oct 2 2008, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Siu_Keong @ Oct 2 2008, 10:15 PM)
Haha sure pal, hope this HD4830 can impress me since i might upgrade from my HD4670. And it will be nice if it dun need so many juice draw out from PSU, but still a lot of research and review after release that need to go thru before we conclude anything ya smile.gif
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so fast upgrade?
i tough u just got ur 4670?........ biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(spideysam @ Oct 3 2008, 03:14 AM)
so maybe next year come out newer ati series?? tis end of the year got any new gc coming out from ati??
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4830 & 4850x2 is yet 2 com.

5k series is due Q2 2009
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 3 2008, 10:38 AM)
hope ATI can win again wahaha tongue.gif
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i hope ATI & ATI will b neck & neck coz dis is wen consumer gets their bang for bucks.................. thumbup.gif
QUOTE(Dickong @ Oct 3 2008, 10:48 AM)
Hey, just for info, the ATI catalys driver 8.10 beta is out with added fan speed control.
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dis news is so yesterday............... sleep.gif
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:28 PM

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down't u know.................
PC is true gamers ultimate gaming machine.

ultimate visual for ultimate frame rate wit ultimate control & experience.

games originate from pc anyway.
dis is exactly y even games developer isn't making much money making pc games, pc games is here 2 stay no matter wat.
even microsoft is supporting it. "Games for Windows"
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:55 PM

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COD4 can on9
battlefield 2142 is on9.
crysis, also on9.
team fortress 2, HL2, gears of war, WOW, c&c3..............upcoming GTA iv, RA3..................& much more..............

gaming pc is kind of passion.

so y gamers spend so much on high end pc wen dey can hav ps3 or x360?
its like asking y ATI mek expensive high end 4870x2 wen their real money making is selling main stream & mid end GC.
its just 4 the crown of coz................

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post Oct 3 2008, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(woshikurt @ Oct 3 2008, 11:36 PM)
@pikacu
could it be 4670 using 55nm tech...?
and, above mentioned game, if notmistaken those games is multiplayer game mode(online LAN), instead of MMO game...like WoW, RO..etc...
just my opinion, online game will dominating the major market in the future, as it earns money compare with standalone game.
of course, there are classic standalone games that still shining among gaming industry...eg, diablo III, Oblivion....etc
just another finding, built in gc getting faster & feature riched...this will definitely eating the pie of standalone gc market...

note: i didn't own PS2, xbox...actually i getting new gc, aiming 3850, 3870, 4670...etc
just because i felt frustrated & sad to waste money to get some immature products that will deplete...
thanks for both of ur reply...cheerz
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dat will nvr happen.
it won't b nice if people c MMO flooding the market.
it would b nice 2 c 1 good MMO come around every once a while.

nowadays, multilayer components is pretty much a mush hav in any games.
wats the different, on9 anyway. dun u know c&c3 is a very popular on9.
not 2 mention upcoming RA3 wit co-op.
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post Oct 7 2008, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Oct 7 2008, 11:51 AM)
yup, can CF

4670 beats 4850 when CF...
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only in certain games.....................
crossfire not very consistence............
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post Oct 8 2008, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Oct 7 2008, 07:07 PM)
those companies are selfish, when nVidia was dominating the market, they leech like nobody's business. now nVidia having trouble, they wanna hop over to ATI's ship
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dus is business.
same goes, wen nvidia dominating the market, how much money u think dey rip of from consumer?
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post Oct 8 2008, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(kimwelton @ Oct 8 2008, 09:14 PM)
hello there,
can anyone tell me which manufacture is the best for ATi 4850 smile.gif
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pls dun ask dis kind of question anymore.
there is no so call best manufacture.
most successful non-reference 4850 cooler is gainward GS........@ the moment.

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post Oct 8 2008, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Oct 8 2008, 09:38 PM)
well, pikacu, got 2 company gives longest warranty wor tongue.gif
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do v really need long warranty period?

if ur ans is yes, go buy EVGA nvidia GC instead.............
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post Oct 10 2008, 09:13 AM

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there is a thing call safe mode & system restore............ tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2008, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(cscheat @ Oct 10 2008, 10:15 AM)
CRT monitor nothing to do with driver lah !

go get it and kicking in crysis !!! smile.gif
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ATI driver does hav sum issues wit certain CRT display.................
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post Oct 10 2008, 11:18 PM

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in xp, my 4870 downclock to 300/300 on idle.
also i lowered the voltage.

alternatively, i just use 8400GS also downclock 300/300
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post Oct 10 2008, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Oct 11 2008, 12:23 AM)
eh?4850 reference card downclocks to 160/500mhz. not 500/700Mhz. 4850 mid range card mah..btw that is base on which ccc o.o?
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u can always downclock ur GC summore using rivatuner or ATI tray tools.
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post Oct 11 2008, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(spideysam @ Oct 11 2008, 07:39 PM)
errr the clock speed is the mhz right???  and also the ddr5 for gc and ddr 3 got lot different in producing frame rates??
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DDR5 is 2x faster den DDR3.

example:

800 Mhz DDR3 = 800 * 2 = 1600 (effective)
800 MHz DDR5 = 800 * 4 = 3200 (effective)

latest generation of ATI & nvidia card opted a very different solution for higher bandwidth.

nvidia still uses slower DDR3 but increase the bit to 384 & 512.

ATI card still uses 256 bit but opted fast DDR5 memory.

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post Oct 12 2008, 11:43 AM

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best way 2 OC 4870 is flash it to ASUS TOP bios. (815/925)

not only it is the fastest GPU clock OC available on the market, it consumes less power on idle & load compared to reference.............. thumbup.gif

btw, 4870 memory u dun need 2 OC much.
wit DDR5, it already has way enough bandwidth.
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post Oct 12 2008, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(viperiii @ Oct 12 2008, 02:12 PM)
The GPU itself now is still not fast enough to get most benefits of fast GDDR5, wait for the 40nm R800 (direct X 11.0) core, the we can enjoy the full benefits of GDDR5!!
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yeah, dat y b4 4k series launch, it is rumor 2 hav close 2 1ghz clock speed.

hm............my 4870 wit ASUS TOP bios can only OC max till 870 wit CCC 8.9
875 will result in failure 2 pass the test sometime............. sad.gif

lets hope CCC 8.10 will giv better OC ability.
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post Oct 12 2008, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 12 2008, 05:24 PM)
Drivers used will affect the OC ability? Anyways what test did you use to verify your card is stable at the oc-ed clock?
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yeah, driver will effect OC ability.
bios also. may b wen i free next time i'll try OC wit other bios. just hope dun fry my card during test........... sweat.gif
but actually 870 is already quite good if u look @ stock speed @ 750 only.

i use built in test in CCC in the 1st test, 875 fail 3/5 times....... sad.gif
870 confirm stable wit 3dmark vantage.

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post Oct 12 2008, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Oct 12 2008, 07:45 PM)
How's the crysis:warhead performs on 4850 for you guys?
Mine like choking at 22-3xfps with gamer settings at 1440*900 reso
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u'll choke more wen u reach the train part...................... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 12 2008, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 12 2008, 09:12 PM)
Does this happen to 4870 too?  hmm.gif
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yeah,
my setting r all "gamers", 4x AA, 1280 * 1024

not really a big deal.
it will choke if i look around very fast.

i think dis is due to background graphic moving a lot faster on train compared 2 on foot.

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