You wanna buy SONY S Series or ANY brand? Not Clear la ... bro.

Anyway, Tips for choosing your TV

1) familiar yourself with the terminology of the LCD TVs such as response time, contrast ratio and etc. and know what are the effects of these figures,

2) TRUST your own eyes. After you are familiar with all the terms then go to the shop to compare the various models side by side .. see if you can spot the difference between 8ms panel and 4ms panel, and etc. Then choose the TV to your liking. After all, it is your money, you get to spend your money anyway you like

You might have set the aspect ratio to 16:9. Astro's pictures are in 4:3 format. If your setting is 16:9 then set it to 4:3 when watching Astro, people should back to their normal sizes.

For the blurry Astro's images ... ... cause Astro is still using stone age technology .. nothing wrong with your TV.

Can share how is the pic quality like? have you compare it with panasonic PY800 or Pioneer 508, if so, how does it match up to them? I know it is not fair to compare with pioneer 508 which is only a 720p panel, .. but it is a PIONEER .

show room always use high quality picture source, player and cable to make pictures look nice in those display units.

Unless you are some of the elite one who can afford buying original BD or high quality DVD, i suggest you bring your own source such as hmmm ... the jack sparrow made dvd to the show room for testing.

But if you can afford the original BD or DVD, then forget my suggestions

Where r u from? I just check the price here in Kuching yesterday, 32LG30 RM 1620, 32PC5RV RM 1680.

I check the price cause my FIL's tv broke down and needed a replacement.

I recommended to them CRT TV because they only watch astro .. You know la astro sxxks in LCD and worry my FIL dunno how to take care of plasma then later might have plasma related issues like burn in and etc .. but they insist on checking on the price of flat panels bo coz looks chun ba

LG Malaysia's service Sxxks big time! Providing misleading info to the consumer. The specs that you saw for the PG60UR in the LG Malaysia website is actually the specs for PG60D models in the North America.

Notice that not only the resolution is different, the on-screen user menu also different, also no ISF mode ... and try to call LG Customer service and u will agree with me LG Malaysia sxxks!

I think for those who had compared the different models side by side would agree that KURO's PQ is good, of course other factors like the design of the set is subjective.

I think it depends on what you want, size or PQ quality? Most of us can't see the difference if not compare the models side by side, if u r one of those then I say go for the size. If u r the one sensitive to PQ, then u choose the model with higher PQ.

Some even said the sound quality of the TV is not important cause got HTS ma ... but some think is essential.

All I wanna say is wheither is worth it o not, it all depends on the individual.

So buy one now and start enjoy, afterall it is CHIRSTMAS season!

This post has been edited by slk5538: Dec 17 2008, 08:14 AM

Take the average power comsumption of Plasma at 300 watt-hours

Assuming it is on for 4 hours a day, and 30 days a month.

The total power consumed is 36 kwH/month

A 9,000 BTU Air-Con on with 8 hours / day (assuming running at 75% of the time) consumes 180 kwH/month

A 300 litre fridge consumes 66 kwH/month.

SO WHAT IS SO BIG DEAL ABOUT PLASMA POWER CONSUMPTION????

You tried negotiate with the sales person? Many models price between 1.6k to 1.8k now for 32" HD Ready LCD TV

Is the black level the only difference you've spotted? How about the color?

I found that the KURO's colors are more vibrant if compare to the PV80. If you compare Pana PY800 with PV80 then you would know. PY800's color more vibrant, like the KURO. But not to the degree of some superbranded LCD with unnatural color. Again, I like to stress that I am not against those artificial color of those LCD, you have to admit many ppl like that a lot. It is just personal preference.

Also, have you notice that the picture in PV80 is coarser than the KURO? This is what i noticed, and don't quite understand what happen there? I tried to set the PV80 with higher Sharpness, but then the picture looks weird on high contrast scenes. Just seem unable to get the correct combination. KURO has no such problem. PY800 also has no such problem, but of course it is not fair to compare PV80 with PY800 cause PY800 is Full HD! Also, LG PG60 don't have this problem, the only thing with PG60 is the reflection and IR is quite serious.

Your opinion?

This post has been edited by slk5538: Dec 18 2008, 08:10 AM

generation 8 .. I don't get to see the latest KURO yet, I don't think it is available in the place I stay yet

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Added on December 19, 2008, 8:02 amIt is not a burnt mark but only IR, so it is not permanent. What I would notice is that it needs 5 secs to 20 secs to get rid of the IR, that is longer than the Pana Plasma.

For example, when I turn on the on screen menu to adjust some settings with the background movie still running, i can see the traces of the menu box for almost 10 s after i exited the menu.

But i won't be able to notice it when i sit 10 ft away. It is noticeable when i sit very near like less than 4 ft. Still I tried that with Pana Plasma in the showroom and has no such issue.

I do not set a high contrast or brightness .. so the IR has nothing to do with my settings

This post has been edited by slk5538: Dec 19 2008, 08:07 AM

i think wat ar188 meant are those lower end LCD models, your sammy A850 is a good one, dun worry

Don't bother by those ppl la ... they still live in the ninties, when flat panel tv just started to available as consumer electronics ... back then there were many problems with plasma but almost all had been solved in today's plasma ..

I guess those people who tell you plasma has many problem are still using the "bottle like" "tai-ko-tai" handphone .... and probably still using a 386 computer with a monochrome monitor

Relax, bro, 42" HD Ready Plasma's native resolution is indeed 1024 x 768 even for the PG60's european brother, the PG6000 series. That specification is enough to qualify the TV as HD Ready.

Even the 42" HD Ready plasma from other brands such as Samsung & Panasonic do not come with 1366 x 768 resolution.

However, for most HD Ready LCD, the native resolution is 1366 x 768. So don't mixed up bro

If your plasma is 50" HD Ready, then only you would get the resolution at 1366 x 768.

I guess there is a lot more processes and costly to squezz the same number of cells to smaller area. Do understand that plasma technology is different from that of LCD. Plasma panels are actually formed by individual tiny gas cell. Some sifu please correct me if I am wrong here.

LG even has a 32" plasma in europe with 1024 x 720 resolution and qualifed as a HD Ready set (actually I am kind of waiting for its release in Malaysia, so that i can replace my 32" LCD with it, but i was informed that that model won't be available for local market )

The bottom line is, as long as the TV set met the minimum requirement of displaying 720p, it can be regarded as HD Ready. I remember one manufacturer even produced sets with 14xx x 1080 resolution and claimed that it is a Full HD set , that is way below the norm of 1920 x 1080.

So, bro, keep your cool there. I know you are pissed caused feel being cheated by the LG Malaysia website. But we don't necessarily jump off the wagon without knowing the actual fact. Because if you loose your cool and trade your 42"PG60 with other 42" HD Ready plasma of other brands, you are still stuck with a 1024 x 768 panels and be equally upset. Not worth to get high blood pressure because of that ma, correct? Since you are already a FAT sumarai, ez to get HBP

(I was as equally pissed as you if not more when I bought my set 6 months ago and contacted LG customer service for their clarification. it totally sxxks. )

Thus far, I am still quite satisfy with my set aside the annoying IR, and little dissapointed for not getting the ISF modes and the newer on screen menu, and other settings option that is available in the PG6000 series. May be LG thinks that we Malaysians are too dumb to use the options available ? If it for the case of price discrmination, i can accept la becasue our PG60 is actually cheaper than the PG6000 ba

This post has been edited by slk5538: Dec 20 2008, 09:02 AM

Read in Wikipedia and others websites like cnet that defines HDTV.

Besides able to accept HD sources like you mentioned, these website also stated that HDTV must be able to display the images at 720 lines in progressive scan mode or 1080 lines in the interlace mode.

So, 854 x 480 TV can't possibly display images at 720 lines. I agree with you that EDTV can accept HD signals, but it is termed EDTV, and not HDTV. EDTV are actually those TV with standard resolution but design to received HD sources during the ninties, when 720p panels were still very expensive. The link belows provide classification of HDTV

http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/?tag=rb_content%3brb_mtx

Also, ideally the pixel resolution for a HD Ready panel should be 1280 x 720, but 1024 x 768 is acceptable for Plasma TV due to it's cells that are not round, and can't get 16:9 ratio if manufactured to 1280 x 720.

You might have read somewhere that says otherwise, mind to share?

As at one time, I encountered a FULL HD TV claimed by a manufacturer for its 720p panel capable of receiving 1080p signals at 24 Hz. I personally think that this is cheating.

I know this is quite confusing, and I think by better understanding the terms and definition, then we won't be easily cheated by the manufacturers. So, If you had read in somewhere that says otherwise, please share. Thanks

This post has been edited by slk5538: Dec 22 2008, 09:09 AM

Thanks for the clarification. Still trying to digest.

Anyway, 1366 x 768 is mostly applicable to plasma with 50" & above. 1024 x 768 is still applicabel to those HD Ready Plasma with screen size 42"

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Added on December 23, 2008, 8:16 amsearch around, 32LG30 now cost RM 1630 without the freebies. Samsung & Panasonic also have models that fit into this price range.

I think the new model that you saw is the LG80.

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Added on December 23, 2008, 8:18 am850 also looks nicer than 800 when they are in off mode you can go to panny website at www.panasonic.com.my to find out the difference in specs.

This post has been edited by slk5538: Dec 23 2008, 08:18 AM

Are you sure your PV80 is better than CRT TV when playing Jack Sparrow's DVD o not ?

You know that you are in a Plasma supporters forum ?? Joking la.

Ask the guy who told you that to check the facts first. I believe he either does not own a plasma, or his plasma is chap paria

Just ask around which TV model is the King of Colour ..... I mean those TVs that are available in the local market ... not some TV that is not available locally yet (like Laser TV) or those that are way too expensive (like the OLED TV for one with decent size)

Not true, and it all depends on the selection of criteria to define the "life span".

That's my point. And I actually think that worrying lifespan is too ... aa ...

What is the lifespan of CRT TV? Plasma n LCD with 6 hours of daily usage can last you 10, 20, 30 years? I bet most would have change TV after 10 years ... that is before your Plasma or LCD is dead ..