QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Sep 11 2008, 10:26 AM)
Hm, i just shorted FKLI 1033. I still forsee it going down to below 1000 end of the month. This week no more forex. Need a break! 
Did u need to specify on the date if u short/long in FKLI?Stock market V15, lai lai all make money
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Sep 11 2008, 10:32 AM
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Sep 11 2008, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Sep 10 2008, 07:32 PM) Here's an example:You: Hello, what's the bid/ask on Sept 08 FKLI? Me: Bid;1033, Ask:1033.5. You: OK, short/long #number of lots at market (or limit) Me: OK done (means the trade is done if at market; i repeat the order) However, if the client hesistate, we will have to requote the client and see if the client wants to proceed from there. |
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Sep 11 2008, 10:35 AM
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Here we go for the 3 digit.
2 years of upside bull run now down into the drain for KLCI. Global equities market still under pressure after Lehman report. |
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Sep 11 2008, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 10 2008, 07:35 PM) Here we go for the 3 digit. LOL! You should see all the remiser here Cherroy, all pergi minum kopi at 10 am.2 years of upside bull run now down into the drain for KLCI. Global equities market still under pressure after Lehman report. Added on September 11, 2008, 10:39 amDangerous time for investors to invest in Malaysia, especially after PM admitted that race relations are not at a healthy level. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0211&sec=nation This post has been edited by AdamG1981: Sep 11 2008, 10:39 AM |
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Sep 11 2008, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Sep 11 2008, 10:35 AM) Here's an example: erm.... still dun understand on the whole procedure & how can some1 make $$ in FKLI You: Hello, what's the bid/ask on Sept 08 FKLI? Me: Bid;1033, Ask:1033.5. You: OK, short/long #number of lots at market (or limit) Me: OK done (means the trade is done if at market; i repeat the order) However, if the client hesistate, we will have to requote the client and see if the client wants to proceed from there. let's say 2day is 11th Sept..... u short 1033 on tomorrow? & what's Bid/ask? btw, PANAMY suspended 2day? |
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Sep 11 2008, 10:56 AM
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Sep 11 2008, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Sep 10 2008, 07:55 PM) erm.... still dun understand on the whole procedure & how can some1 make $$ in FKLI Today i short 1 lot of FKLI Sept 08 @ 1033; and i hope to buy back FKLI Sept 08 @ 1000 points.let's say 2day is 11th Sept..... u short 1033 on tomorrow? & what's Bid/ask? btw, PANAMY suspended 2day? The difference is 1033 - 1000 = 33 points 33 points x 50 = 1150 ringgit Bid is the price a buyer will buy at Ask is the price the seller will sell at |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Sep 11 2008, 10:55 AM) erm.... still dun understand on the whole procedure & how can some1 make $$ in FKLI No lah, just no transaction.let's say 2day is 11th Sept..... u short 1033 on tomorrow? & what's Bid/ask? btw, PANAMY suspended 2day? The trading is identical to normal shares, but futures contract will be expired at the end of their month. So September contract will be traded until the last day of the September then it will expire and settled which you make the differentiate of it. |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:05 AM
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haha my dad is one of them who drink tea on that time......say boring and he has get board with he job after so long working in this line
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Sep 11 2008, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(tkwfriend @ Sep 11 2008, 11:05 AM) haha my dad is one of them who drink tea on that time......say boring and he has get board with he job after so long working in this line I guess remisiers has their boom time too, so during that time they must have reserved a portion of their earnings for these slow times. Unless they have no control or overtrade. |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:10 AM
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Wow, painfully bleeding for CI. IT's a misery to watch CI every day.
Currently futures trading @ 1028.5/Bid 1029.5/Ask This post has been edited by AdamG1981: Sep 11 2008, 11:11 AM |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:14 AM
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I drink tea whole day la,not just 10am....
My peers many of them drink gosong ping ,no tea . This post has been edited by lklatmy: Sep 11 2008, 11:17 AM |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Sep 10 2008, 08:14 PM) Added on September 11, 2008, 11:23 amFKLI 1027.5 NEW intraday low. And this is not yet Sept 16... This post has been edited by AdamG1981: Sep 11 2008, 11:23 AM |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Sep 11 2008, 10:59 AM) Today i short 1 lot of FKLI Sept 08 @ 1033; and i hope to buy back FKLI Sept 08 @ 1000 points. The difference is 1033 - 1000 = 33 points 33 points x 50 = 1150 ringgit Bid is the price a buyer will buy at Ask is the price the seller will sell at QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 11 2008, 11:04 AM) No lah, just no transaction. today is 11th wor.... how can u short something in the past? The trading is identical to normal shares, but futures contract will be expired at the end of their month. So September contract will be traded until the last day of the September then it will expire and settled which you make the differentiate of it. so let's say if u are not able to buy back at the price lower than 1033, u'll make loss? Guys, thanks for the explanation..... |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:25 AM
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Sep 11 2008, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Sep 11 2008, 11:23 AM) today is 11th wor.... how can u short something in the past? September is current spot month, it will be traded until 31st September. Then expired and settled (settlement price is based on last half hours of average price based on cash market (KLCI).so let's say if u are not able to buy back at the price lower than 1033, u'll make loss? Guys, thanks for the explanation..... Yes, trading is about making money through differentiate in price. |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:32 AM
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Sep 11 2008, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Sep 11 2008, 12:32 PM) Hi,Just curious to know more about the FKLI. Let us say that end of september the KLCI is 1010 points. If u buy 1 lot of contract in FKLI at 1030 points. How much have u made from there ? Are they looking at the cash market to do the calculation or vice versa ? Second, What is long and short ? Any given example,I'm just a noob. |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(DJWC @ Sep 10 2008, 08:39 PM) Hi, If i buy one lot at 1030, i lose 20 points if futures market settle at 1010; similar to cash market @ the end of the month. Each point is 50 ringgit. 20 points wil be RM1000 lossJust curious to know more about the FKLI. Let us say that end of september the KLCI is 1010 points. If u buy 1 lot of contract in FKLI at 1030 points. How much have u made from there ? Are they looking at the cash market to do the calculation or vice versa ? Second, What is long and short ? Any given example,I'm just a noob. If i sell one lot at 1030, i win 20 points if futures market settle at 1010; similar to cash market @ the end of the month. Gain: RM 1000 Long means you buy and sell at a later day for a higher price. Short means you sell and buy at a later day for a lower price. |
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Sep 11 2008, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(DJWC @ Sep 11 2008, 11:39 AM) Hi, Then you lose 20 points. Just curious to know more about the FKLI. Let us say that end of september the KLCI is 1010 points. If u buy 1 lot of contract in FKLI at 1030 points. How much have u made from there ? Are they looking at the cash market to do the calculation or vice versa ? Second, What is long and short ? Any given example,I'm just a noob. 1 point = Rm50 so you lose 1K + commission (commission is Rm25 per transaction, settlement fee = RM1) So total loss = Rm1,026 Yes cash market is the settlement target, by using last half hour of average. There is specific FKLI thread which can google upon the details. Long = buy first Short = sell first |
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