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metsatsu
post Sep 9 2008, 06:00 PM

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metsatsu/ Thermalright Ultima-90/ Tuniq Tx2/ Intel C2Q Q9450 @ 3.40ghz(28% overclock)/ 1.18v/ silverstone FN91 90mm fan/ 56c/ 71c/ non-aircond/ prime95

doesn't look very good sad.gif eventhough my room temperature is around 29c i still dun think i should be getting that kind of readings. but at night time my load temp can get down to 65c

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post Sep 9 2008, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Sep 9 2008, 09:06 PM)
results updated for u.... but i guess ur ultima don have stock fan right?
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sorry boss, didn't take note of that. anyway stats updated smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2008, 09:57 PM

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hey guys, I think i finally figured out why my cpu temp is so high. I think it's due to several factors.

1. very hot graphic card HD4870 810/950
2. 3 HDDs in the hard drive bay which pretty much blocked the front fan intake
3. small case (cooler master mystique)

So i decided to install a 120mm intake side panel fan. to see if it's helping. so far it 'looked' as if the temp actually dropped a little. but I will need to let it 'burn-in' for a while before i can get a more substantial results.

and on top of that, I've also reapplied the thermal compound. but this time i tried getting it thin and smooth, before putting my ultima90 hsf on.

will update the result soon smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2008, 10:10 PM

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i know the HD4870 exhaust the air out from the case. but yet, the card is sooo hot, that it actually warms up my side panel, as well the whole rare surface of my casing. that's why the ambient temp of the casing is always quite high.

now i have 2 fans as intake and one rear exahsut smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 07:40 AM

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latest update

metsatsu/ Thermalright Ultima-90/ Tuniq Tx2 / Intel C2Q Q9450 @ 3.40ghz(28% overclock)/ 1.19v/ silverstone FN91 90mm fan/ 54c/ 68c/ non-aircond/ prime95

so i guess the side panel fan which is blowing directly on the cpu and the re-application of the thermal paste did help!

P/S: i've also slightly increased my voltage tongue.gif

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the stock cooler itself is not enough to keep the temps down.
you need a better heatsink for it.

putting fans will help with the airflow but the heat prob will still be there
yah, i knew that too. my gpu temp is pretty ok. coz it was flashed to ASUS 4870 top bios, so it has a better fan profile, able to keep the gpu temp down to 60c at all time. but the problem is the heat conducted through the metal part to the casing. but that one doesn't really worry me much as long as i can find ways to keep the interior air temp low.

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I got 3 intake (1 front, 1 side, 1 bottom) 3 Output (2 Top, 1 Rear)
My HD4870 have no probs. Idle@ Stocks Speed is 52c in Non-AirCon Room (I know its kinda High). Everything inside is running well. Sidepanel wont get warm, etc etc.

P.S. If wanna use just one fan at the Rear of the casing. I think i should use fans like Vizo Windstorm O.o?
I suppose thats your cpu temp right?

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imo ventilation is depending on your casing... if u feel that there is some places that is lack of ventilation, meaning no air is going through that area, try installing a fan to blow towards that area...

but keep in mind that u need to get those hot air out.. so to me, its kinda test and error situation... try changing position of the fans around your casing and see hows the result shows...

one more thing is, i think the fan which is install to blow your HDD is not going to improve any ventilation in your casing... if u want a front fan to improve your ventilation, put the fan "inside" your casing... its something like that:

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source of the pics is from here

anyway there is alot of ways to cool down your pc components, im just givings some suggestions smile.gif


looks interesting, but my case really lacks of space. especially how my 4870 is sticking right at the HDD cage. just enough space for the 2 pcie power connectors to be bent awkwardly and connected rclxub.gif by the way thanks for the suggestion thumbup.gif

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post Sep 12 2008, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(SoulReaver @ Sep 12 2008, 10:18 AM)
Its My HD4870's Temp.  blush.gif Will Post up my CPU temp next week... smile.gif
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ok ok. by the way what's your clock speed for 4870?

by the way, do u guys think that 4 sticks of oc'ed ram can contribute to higher temperature? as in compared to a only pair of default voltage ram?

i dunno how it's like for u guys, coz if i put my hand about 4 inch away from the ram area. i can feel the heat radiating from it. So u can imagine the warm air which was sucked straight into the HSF, contributes to the higher temp of my cpu.

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post Sep 12 2008, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Sep 12 2008, 07:52 PM)
CHiNO730 / Zalman CNPS9500 / Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 3.100GHz (46% OC) / 1.300V/ 92mm Zalman Fan / 49c/ 66c/ Non-Airconditioned/ Orthos

Other Stats:

Was running a GPU benchmark too at the same time to try and heat up the case and record a max temp.

Room Temp: 33C
Case Temp: 42C
GPU Temp: 69C
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u know what. I think i should record my room temp just like chino. at least it gives me an idea of the relativity of the cpu temp and room temp. coz at early in the morning, my cpu load temp can go down by 5c. but dunno what my room temp is. sad.gif maybe i should buy a thermometer
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post Sep 13 2008, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Sep 13 2008, 12:37 AM)
unless u are somebody who can handle noise... i suggest u use lower cfm fans that is less noisy and put more exhaust than intake... this way u create a negative pressure environment...u can read here on why wink.gif

http://www.xoxide.com/computer-cooling.html
updated ur latest update  thumbup.gif
hey bro... i need ur screenshot to post up the results yo biggrin.gif
hey bro... why not try run half naked rig n see how it goes?  brows.gif
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don't want la. like that meaningless, i want a rig which runs cool as it is. smile.gif showing results of half naked rig doesn't represent 24/7 usage.
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post Sep 14 2008, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 14 2008, 09:00 AM)
ceh.. xpose , buat2 pose lak... laugh.gif
i support oso la.. my room so hot, coz not a rich guy to setup aircon  tongue.gif
give u my awek pic too wub.gif
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bro, should let it run for at least 15-20 mins doh.gif
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post Sep 14 2008, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 14 2008, 07:09 PM)
xixo_12/ThermalTake BigTyphoon VX Fanless/Ceramic ThermalPaste/ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 1.00ghz(50%underclock)/ 0.825v/Fanless/27c/ 31c/non-aircond/Orthos Beta

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wanna rain here.. the ambient become so hot shakehead.gif  hmm.gif  sweat.gif
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lol thats insanely low. but just wanna ask, since it's sooooo underclocked, how's the performance for normal usage such as surfing net, unziping files, play big movies etc.?
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post Sep 15 2008, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 14 2008, 11:02 PM)
T delta chun?? apa itu?? laugh.gif dun understand
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i think it means the idle and load temp difference eg. load temp - idle temp = delta temp sweat.gif the lower the better

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post Sep 15 2008, 10:23 PM

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that's what forums are for, u get to learn stuff too thumbup.gif

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post Sep 16 2008, 11:05 AM

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I think for the non extreme 45nm quad, it's 100. Might as well get the latest cpu temp software. I set mine to 100
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post Sep 16 2008, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Snyy @ Sep 16 2008, 07:52 PM)
Hi guys, look at my CPU temperature. Normal? why the temperature so high? [attachmentid=594854]
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give us a little info of your cooler plz
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post Sep 16 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Snyy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:58 PM)
I'm not using stock cooler. cry.gif  I'm using Xigmatek HDT s963. still look normal now?
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slightly on the higher side i would say. maybe reapplying thermal paste and re-check whether if your HSF has been sitted properly would be wise. are u sitting in a non air-con room?
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post Sep 18 2008, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Sep 18 2008, 02:30 PM)
guys... just found out what a exhaust inwards GC can do to my temp  sweat.gif

for the information of u guys, the max temp shown was achieved during closed case.... while the current temp was when the case was open.. the difference is 10c @.@

my 9800GX2 was on idling at 70c that time n altho is does exhaust to the rear of casing, it does exhaust into the case thru the side of the GC as well....the exhaust of the case was only one at the rear n only one intake at the sidepanel....

gonna add more exhaust fans to my casing liao  doh.gif  sweat.gif

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so u mean previously your 65c load cpu temp was with case opened?
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post Sep 18 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Sep 18 2008, 08:57 PM)
yup...alll my previous result are open casing result....as i am running half naked rig

yesterday tangan gatal go close back the case n this is the temp zzzzzzzz
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no wonder u pursuaded me to go for half naked rig sweat.gif

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post Sep 19 2008, 09:00 PM

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Update: I've just finished doing my rig's cable management. gonna stress test my cpu temp. and see how it turns out. thumbup.gif

I will later put up a photo of my rig's interior as well.

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post Sep 19 2008, 09:44 PM

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my method is to a pea size at the middle of the cpu. then cut out a small piece (roughly half the width of the processor) from a plastic card (i would suggest using card which is similar to mykad type). then start to spread the TIM as evenly and thinly as possible all covering all over the whole surface of the cpu. you can search for demo on youtube smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2008, 08:55 AM

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metsatsu/ Tuniq TX2/ C2Q Q9450@3.4GHZ (28% OC) / 1.19V/ Silverstone FN91 90mm fan/ 51c/ 65c/ Non-Airconditioned/ Prime95

Dunno whether if it's bcoz the colder weather or really bcoz of the better airflow after the cable management. but anyhow it sure looks much more pleasing to the eyes tongue.gif

P/S: sorry forgot to take a before pic, but just imagine that there were cables covering the bottom of vga card as well as the side of the HDD cage. there was another cable going right across the top of the vga card too. and the cable was partially blocking the ram's view also. rclxub.gif

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