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post Dec 4 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(livinzo @ Dec 4 2008, 12:16 AM)
its pretty worth it... i saw read some review saying that it could reduce temp by 7c compare to stock tim, which is pretty much...
get it from rockrock / robyn computer..he sold to me pretty cheap...
i find that the paste is pretty difficult to apply, its more rough, unlike stock tim, smooth and easy to apply..
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bro, u sure u using sd963 or sd964? cuz the pic u posted is showing a sd964 with 4 heatpipes.

btw tunix really could do that good? im having a sd964 now and im using the stock thermal paste it came with. (kinda hook the xigmatek hsf up to my rig in a rush and didnt order any other thermal paste cuz i need to go back hometown from my hostel that time),

my proc is e6750 oced to 3.2ghz (400x8); vcore:1.35, idle temp is 33-37 (depends on room temp), while full cpu stress temp is 59-60. no aircond.

so i would just like to know is it really worth it that i should get the tunix or just stick with what i have now. thanks!

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post Dec 4 2008, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(livinzo @ Dec 4 2008, 01:21 AM)
Didn't realize i posted wrong picture(changed), mine is 3 heat pipes.. how much did you get yours?

I think there is branded thermal paste for a reason to out preform the stock thermal paste..
i read all of those reviews. i even go find extra reviews online... im just using the thermal paste that came bundled with my sd964, which i dont even know what thermal paste it is.. dont know if i should change it or not cuz im really lazy to take eveything out again, so far temp is ok i think (or maybe not, will do research again. biggrin.gif ). btw i got the sd964 for rm140. i guess i'll use the bundled paste till my next semester and then i'll decide if i would want to buy tuniq or not. goodluck with ur oc rclxms.gif

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post Dec 4 2008, 08:06 PM

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**edited** will try to oc more before posting results tongue.gif

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post Dec 14 2008, 06:28 PM

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http://www.frostytech.com/
alot of fans there.
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post Dec 15 2008, 12:51 AM

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lol, i never expect the answer to be "rape". rclxms.gif
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post Dec 16 2008, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Dec 15 2008, 07:02 PM)
aft done lapped with sand ppr, can use something metal polisher to polish it... make it shining shining laugh.gif 
some ppl use something call ''autoso'', me ever using ''brasso'', autoso is something like in cream/gel form.. brasso in liquid form... thumbup.gif
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i used brasso to polish my bike chrome parts to make it shine shine! tongue.gif
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post Dec 23 2008, 07:14 PM

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i see no difference when i changed to tuniq tx2 and even added another fan as push-pull config... the only difference is that im short RM45... cry.gif cry.gif
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post Dec 24 2008, 12:24 AM

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here's my case... its cap ayam (avf) casing.

red arrows are exhaust, green is intake. i know my cable management sucks, but because of the cap ayam casing im using, i've nowhere to hide all those cacings except putting them under the cdrom bay.

fan models are in my siggy unless its cap ayam one.

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even with side panel off, there's not much difference with temperature drop. (cpu only drop 1 degree), wherelse mobo temp still same.

the way i applied tim is like the guide on how to apply tim on hdt as shown on the first page of this thread.

thanks!

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post Dec 24 2008, 12:46 AM

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post Dec 24 2008, 01:38 AM

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my front case fan is a high flow fan. according to specs, at 12v it could push 103cfm. but since its kinda loud i've mod it with 3 way switch so it could run at quieter 5v mode. i've tried with 12v and 5v during stress test. cpu temp wont change much but mobo temp will drop a one or couple degrees when running at 12v mode.

i tried with either one or both of my 80mm fans off. when either one or both of the 80mm fans are off, there's a noticable / feelable air pressure coming out from the side in between the 92mm and the 80mm fans. when both 80mm fans were on the effect is gone. so i guess the 2 fans are exhausting the way they should be.

i did remount my hsf again cuz i try to interhange the pwm connectors of my two 92mm fans. the tim was well covered as i can see (i did the proc size markings like the guide did too and the coverage is alright).

i guess in the end maybe my hsf isnt really that good afterall. (jeez, in frostytech the temp of this hsf is one of the top ten tho..) or maybe its my capalang casing. cry.gif (which is another reason why i bought this hsf becaues it has lower profile... i couldnt buy any hsf higher than 150mm cuz my casing is very narrow... sweat.gif cry.gif )

will try to stress my comp tonight and record temps.

anyway thanks! thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

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post Dec 24 2008, 01:37 PM

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arct / xigmatek sd-964 / tuniq tx2 / intel e6750 G0 @ 3.2Ghz (20 % overclock) / in bios vcore set to "normal"; EIST and C1E enabled / xigmatek stock 92mm fan and nmb 92mm (push-pull config) / idle: 34C / load: 54C / non-AirCond / OCCT V2.0.1

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post Dec 24 2008, 01:52 PM

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but the thing is, it is no difference with my previously used stock xigmatek thermal paste and one push fan config. so financial wisely i just spent rm18 for tuniq tx2 and rm20 for the nmb 92mm fan.
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post Dec 24 2008, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Dec 24 2008, 03:33 PM)
bro.. ur result oledi good enuf... i tod ur result bad... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  like this tough to improve lo... ur pull fan CMF> push CMF? normally ppl use pull CMF> push CMF make it more effective cooling, and i nvr try on this, mayb u can try it out thumbup.gif
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frm ur fan photo setting, nmb as pull config, it should be in higher cmf thn xigmatek push, so i oso no idea how come cnt improve, mayb that is ur cooler limit hmm.gif 
if u hardworking, u take every thing out of casing, try it on open space, thn u will c wat happen actually.. smile.gif
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both my pull and push fans were pwm controlled. the rpm are kinda similiar depends on my proc and mobo voltage / temp. but most the time my pull fan is slightly faster than my push fan. but since its a thicker fan compared to my push fan i assume its pulling more cfm than my push fan. hmmm will maybe consider lapping when my proc warranty is finished.


QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Dec 24 2008, 04:13 PM)
Achilles dun come with double fan supported, but if u wana mount 1 more fan mayb js use cable tide , tide it on ur HSF laugh.gif  as wat i test on the xigmatek AIO last time.. tongue.gif

for disamble ur fan, i dun own any HSF similar so i dunoe the corect way to take it off.. but due to my view on the photo, i dun saw any screw.. only the anti-vibration rubber, so i thk u js oni twis the rubber to horizontal, it should can take out oledi... if i'm wrong pls corect me laugh.gif
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its the same way how u put the fan onto the hsf. just push and pull the other way from the way u put it in.

@teamloks
nice! how you do that?? 3.7ghz and its only 49c load.

and i cant oc to 3.6ghz (which i want to). my proc is only stable when vcore is set to 1.444... which is abit high i think. i see some forumers with e6750 could hit 3.6ghz with less than 1.4v... how do you guys do that?
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post Dec 25 2008, 06:57 PM

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btw what's the difference between realtemp and coretemp?

realtemp shows 5 degrees less than my coretemp.

@teamloks

wuuu nowonder, ure using E0 stepping e6750... cry.gif

-added- hey wait, why there's 10 degree difference btwn ur cpu temp on ur bio watch and coretemp?

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post Dec 26 2008, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(xelnamikaze @ Dec 26 2008, 01:18 AM)
@arct

try using OCCT
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im using occt, i have orthos, everest, etc etc too.

from what i see; occt, everest and coretemps' cpu temperature all shows the same reading. why realtemp's temp shows 5 degrees less? so which is more accurate as i see some forumers here use realtemp's reading.
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post Dec 26 2008, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(kuanhon @ Dec 26 2008, 11:57 AM)
you might want to read this thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/666785

basically intel's multi core CPU doesn't provide exact reading of the core temperature, it will only provide relative value to the TjMax (distance/delta to TjMax)

eg. say if the core give a reading of 40 to TjMax, depending on the value of TjMax the software is using, it will give different temp reading. RealTemp is using 95c TjMax for 45mm cpu, so it will report core temp of 55c (95c - 40)
CoreTemp and SpeedFan are using 100c for TjMax, thus give reading of 60c (100c - 40)

previously there were argument what's the actual TjMax of C2D/C2Q and different software is using different value but i think not long ago intel has just published the actual value which is 100c for 45mm cpu so CoreTemp and SpeedFan's reading is more accurate (correct me if i'm wrong)

you can actually adjust the TjMax of RealTemp as to provide more accurate temp reading, or you can just display the delta to TjMax to know how far away the temperature is still safe to go
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thanks! but im using e6750 which is a 65nm proc, did intel mention anything bout its tjmax temp? thank again.
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post Dec 28 2008, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Dec 27 2008, 11:18 PM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif
but really to say la, sometime cnt totally blive wat thy done on their review too, coz we dunoe their testing bed... ist every time almost the same or wat...
so the most exact is wait some1 frm LYN do the review.. laugh.gif
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afaik, they dont test theirs hsf on any proc or computers, at the moment their site seems to be down and i cant access it, but there's a link to their "methodology", where they show u their testbeds.

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post Jan 1 2009, 09:00 AM

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for high peformance fans i think we could get from AllnGap or niclasteoh. i got mine from AllnGap, he does sells delta fans --> 200++cfm rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jan 15 2009, 11:16 PM

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heheh bro u forgot mine,

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry22430305

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post Feb 14 2009, 02:34 AM

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seems like it has turned out to be an oc discussion here. well i have a question too, i know its always best to run at 1:1 ratio, but for my current settings, i could only hit 400 FSB if i wanna keep my vcore at normal value, if i wanna hit more than 450 FSB i'll have to increase my vcore; which i dont want to.

so my question is, should i change my ratio to 5:6 so that my ram would be oced to 960mhz? cuz from everest memory benchmark it indeeds shows improvements in bandwidth and latency. but its running in 5:6 ratio.

my specs are as shown in my sig, and i am expecting my gtx285 soon, and i guess my cpu and rams would be the bottleneck factor for it, so i would just like to squeeze alittle bit more out from my rams. so would changing to 5:6 ratio thus making my rams to run at 960mhz(or more) would increase my pc performance?

or should i stick back with my current 1:1 ratio?

thanks!

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