wana learn something abt chemistry...

besi biasa/iron >> ferum III, if oxide call ferum oxide (brown) **color besi karat
aluminium>> aluminium oxide (white)
copper>> copper oxide (black )

BTW really the copper oxide is in black color.. the green blue thingy is not call copper oxide i thk... mayb it mix with other else element...
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This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 21 2008, 03:17 PM

coke oso need wait??
make it shining shining like new thn...

SunBeam Core-contact Freezer 92mm

officail webiste

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i wonder how well this small CCF work.. seem still no review on it yet...
what nice with this cooler is the weight.... 272g only..!!!

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 21 2008, 04:23 PM

yeah yeah cute....!!
quite tall act, 95(L)x 80(W) x155(H) , same high as his bro CCF, only more kurus..
i thk this product it produce to solve the clearance prob mayb..
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>>this product support double fan for push-pull config

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 21 2008, 07:02 PM

yeah.... mayb its build for easier AMD socket installation...

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 21 2008, 09:03 PM

dah pakai CCF dah nak cari adik dia lagi ke..?? ambik kakak , adik tinggal la....

yeah, if wana put that TRUE copper must hv the backbone not oni for support mobo; but is screw to mobo + mobo tray

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Added on December 21, 2008, 11:36 pm

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 21 2008, 11:36 PM

lol....... really sound serious to get TRUE copper...
good luck for ur buy...

ok ok all stop discuz about metal.. all pure thingy is reactive + soft, so for our usage normally will mix with corbon or some other diff metal meterial to make it stronger..
for more information mayb can go secondary school aliran sn form 4-5 kimia.. study that

COME ON GUYS, DISCUZ BOUT COOLER, NO MORE METAL METAL THINGY...!!!

oik....... E8400 should not go such kinda high temp i thk.. u use which software to take the reading, u make sure u try with diff software??
but tough to say too... 4000MHz u do.. mayb need use WC kits...

personally la, for me i prefer the cooler which come with more heatpipe, or the bigger heat pipe..
for now: atleast 4x8mm heatpipe for tower cooler, atleast 5 or 6 heat pipe for low profile cooler..

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Added on December 23, 2008, 5:12 pmfrm my view, ur cable management is ok oledi, will not much block any air flow, for intake cool air should be enuf oledi too..
the only thing is wat exhaust fan u use at the back? if u feel with ur hand at back side, how it feel??

prob:
my opinion is too much hot air trap inside ur case and make the air temp inside casing increase...

solution:
1. try with other high CMF fan as exhaust fan..
2. if still cnt improve, try re-mount ur cooler..

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 23 2008, 05:13 PM

u mind to post ur internal casing photo view here?? (if posible, pls stated wat type casing fan u r using intake and exhaust too..)

mayb u can try with open casing, c either got improvement or nt...

if open case got improvement, mean ur internal air flow got big big prob.. the hot air always trap inside ur casing..

other thn that, u still need to check the way u apply TIM, this will classify in the way how u mounting ur cooler..

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This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 23 2008, 11:41 PM

cnt see ur posted image.. can u edit??
mayb got error with it,

i cnt view it... mayb u direct attach it can d..

and 1 more thing is u nvr post up ur temp ss, pls post it here too.. mayb that is the max wat ur cooler can do for u..
but i blive not la...

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 24 2008, 12:46 AM

ok bro..

now start with intake fan..
i not sure how well ur intake fan working.. do u fell the air blow strong for the intake fan?? if strong enuf thn should be ok for intake part..

**how should say strong or nt the air blow..?? mayb u can try on mid-high CMF fan, hv a feel by ur own hand on any 70 and above CMF fan air blow..
whn u r close side panel, intake fresh air ply important role for it.. but u mension even open casing the temp still the same, thn should not be the intake prob, i guess..

so next part come to exhaust part..
ur casing hv quite many exhaust fan, so if low CMF oso may will be ok, i thk....

the only critical part is ur cooler 92mm pull exhaust fan, will it hv a crash with ur 2x80mm fan?
coz it is mount at center of thm, i nvr try this b4, so i dunoe how well it working..

incase ur 2x80mm fan unable to pull all the hot air(frm 92mm fan) out, thn it will recycle inside ur casing..
so u can hv a try by ur hand at bside 2x80mm and 92mm(pull), c either got air blow out to side part or not...
if lot of air blowing to side, mean ur 2x80mm does not working well their job..

**pls upload ur temp ss here as reference...

now for the TIM apply part
i noe u will follow the step wat in the guide, so do u make sure oledi ur TIM apply's coverage area? do it cover all ur proc??
-for this u can check whn u apply it, aft u done clip/screw ur cooler, thn u try to take it out, so u can make sure ur TIM's coverage area,
if the coverage is ok, thn should not be a prob..

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 24 2008, 01:23 AM

• high CMF fan not mean it really can push such high CMF of air, it depent on ur casing, if ur casing dun hv such big hole for it, mean it still cnt push such high CMF even run at full speed, where it only end with noise, this u can try it out by take it out run at open space and inside casing.. if ur casing hv the hole for it, thn should be okie.
  
• if both of 80mm fan working well, it should be alrite..
  
• TIM oso covered well
  
• ur HSF not that good??
  this i cnt ans u, coz u dun post any ss here, even idle temp, i noe ntg with ur cpu temp, no comment on it
  
• top ten? this depend u view on which cooler, if u view on 964, thn the result was last time result, not the updated result, u need view on latest cooler, there u will noe the actual placement of 964..

**964 review result frm frostytech, for intel>> 150W is 18.8c above ambient temp, 85w is 11.6c above ambient.. OC will increase the TDP anyway..

btw, me oso using cheapo casing, so i'm thking wana upgrate my casing soon, grab CM690 mayb, good airflow..

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 24 2008, 03:42 AM

bro.. ur result oledi good enuf... i tod ur result bad... like this tough to improve lo... ur pull fan CMF> push CMF? normally ppl use pull CMF> push CMF make it more effective cooling, and i nvr try on this, mayb u can try it out
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frm ur fan photo setting, nmb as pull config, it should be in higher cmf thn xigmatek push, so i oso no idea how come cnt improve, mayb that is ur cooler limit
if u hardworking, u take every thing out of casing, try it on open space, thn u will c wat happen actually..

This post has been edited by cdlim87: Dec 24 2008, 03:38 PM

Achilles dun come with double fan supported, but if u wana mount 1 more fan mayb js use cable tide , tide it on ur HSF as wat i test on the xigmatek AIO last time..

for disamble ur fan, i dun own any HSF similar so i dunoe the corect way to take it off.. but due to my view on the photo, i dun saw any screw.. only the anti-vibration rubber, so i thk u js oni twis the rubber to horizontal, it should can take out oledi... if i'm wrong pls corect me

copper KW priced at china 380$ ~~ 190RM

>> http://detail.zol.com.cn/cooling_product/index148979.shtml

no idea with this, nvr try it...
but i thk will slightly effect the performance, but not much i thk, it is diff story if u paint its important part(HSF base/the fin and pipe contact surface)

other way is stain, i thk stain would be beter thn paint(eg: wat had done by DeepCool product, thy stain their cooper heatpipe for KW/IceBlade PRO)

**js nw 2cent, corect me if wrong