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sangels
post Sep 1 2008, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(mDinie @ Sep 1 2008, 11:43 AM)
we cant guarantee every possible buyers will take care of the hamsters properly right? even shop keepers cant guarantee it either. Plus how can you justify that "those people don't know hamsters at all", do you know them? Plus you yourself at first , were you born with a natural instinct to know all about hamsters? No, right! You "learnt" so give other people a chance too and i'm still learning aren't I? If everyone has your thinking then you should do a petition to stop everyone from SELLING hamsters at all. And are you slandering me of killing hamsters? Hey know wat, go report to PETA. Gosh! If there's a list of ethics or laws regarding this, pls do post them so i won't get off the guideline.
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Shop keeper can't guarantee it cos they don't even care as what they want is only money. With you buying bulk from them and sell to everyone is just helping them in their business and let them know that there's market and they'll breed and breed without quality and even inbreed the hamsters even though they are not suitable and young, therefore this will shorten the lifespan of these hamsters due to all these demand. I do not mean that I wanna stop people from learning but these people do not need to learn by making mistake and they can learn from other people even from other's mistakes. Of cos I can't stop everyone from SELLING hamsters but what I can do is STOP encourage those people from selling by not buying from them. I'm not slandering you of killing those hamsters directly with your hand, but by doing what's in your mind to make profit out of that will help killing hamsters and make hamsters suffer indirectly if they ended up in people who don't care a you also can't guarantee they will go to good home. As for your buyers, they will not get good quality hamsters or even healthy hamsters as pet shops won't care for what they sell. They just wanna sold them off even they are sick and injured and telling people that's fine or that's normal. As you said, you are still learning. Can you provide advise and sufficient info for your buyers on how to take good care, how to tame and how to rule out the hamster's health and what to do when the hamster is not well or sick? This are just basic for all hamsters owner if you wanna be a good owner. And how about keeping 2 in a cage and keeping in pairs? What would you advise to your buyers? What are the basic necessaries for hamsters? All these are questions and considerations before you get a pet if you do care for animals. If you don't, then nothing better or need to say. If there's law or guidelines to protect for all these small animals, that would be the best for all the small animals and I'm sure we'll also get benefits on getting good quality animals here. But sad to say, our country do not care about them. No guideline or law doesn't mean we can do anything. Ethics is from our heart and not only the legal laws. I'm not mean to flame at you or anyone else, if you do feel so, my apologies. notworthy.gif I just hope that you'll think about all the above as small animal is a life too and they deserved to have good life too. I just can't see animals to get suffer or bad treatments and it will make people heart broken.


Added on September 1, 2008, 12:16 pm
QUOTE(irkuysm @ Sep 1 2008, 12:14 PM)
Okey 1st & for most i didnt read carefully that he want to buy a hamster in bulk.
I thought he wants to buy hamster accs to supply for all his friends or something.
3rd i dont support this unethical way to get money in instant.
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Great to hear that, at least I know you are not one of the unethical person for animals now. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 1 2008, 12:49 PM

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From the gathering:

Kiko and her prize... rclxms.gif
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After the gathering:

Having 5 2ft tanks and 1 Zoozone2 for us, 1 2ft tank boarding, another 1 2ft tank waiting for setup while waiting for a new table to put the tanks. whistling.gif
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Pillow and Puffie having discussion in their new home. wub.gif Gotta put them in the same tank first while waiting for the table but they are good girls who do not fight YET as they are still small and I think they can stay together for another week and then stay alone next week. rclxms.gif
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Puffie and Pillow's cute cute moments:

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Puffie:
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Pillow:
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Puffie (left) and Pillow (right) discovering the new wheel together rolleyes.gif
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Pillow sleeping on Puffie wub.gif
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Puffie's turn to sleep on Pillow wub.gif
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post Sep 1 2008, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Sep 1 2008, 02:23 PM)
I am using the habitrail one, not real noisy, still acceptable.. somemore she don't sleep in my room, her cage is in another room. The thing I worried is, there is a centre piece, scare she might have back bone problem if she grows bigger.. I think her back almost touches the centre piece.. not so good gua  rolleyes.gif


Added on September 1, 2008, 3:00 pm
At a glance, Kiko looks like the hamster at the prestige bag  drool.gif


Added on September 1, 2008, 3:03 pmand what wheel is that in their tank? Looks like silent wheel, bigger? Not wodent tongue.gif
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Hahaha.... I was also thinking the same thing, Kiko really looks like the model of Prestige. laugh.gif

That's Sanko wheel 21cm. Sanko is also a silent wheel, not wodent wheel. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 1 2008, 03:06 PM)
I miss those syrians. It was so fun to hold Noisie and Pillow...So soft, like a pillow :(
Kiko looks just like the hamster model standing in front there, actually XD
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Yeap, Pillow is soft soft like pillow. wub.gif

QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Sep 1 2008, 03:10 PM)
aiya.. forget tim tongue.gif


Added on September 1, 2008, 3:11 pmsangels.. how long it takes you to clean all those tank????
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About 2.5 hours with help. sweat.gif
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post Sep 1 2008, 07:34 PM

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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Good reasons and excuses you've set for yourself to re-sell the hamsters and congratulations for those mass breeders as you are helping them in their business by SAVING their hamsters from being reptile food. It is a WIN-WIN situations for both parties (what a positive side on things). Keep up for your GOOD JOB, HAMSTERS SAVIOR! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

FYI: 1) I got most of my good quality hamsters from home ethical breeder, adoption and ethical pet shop who get their hamsters from home breeder. icon_rolleyes.gif
2) WW is too expensive to be fed to Python. rolleyes.gif

Anyway, thanks for the effort of copy and paste from my reply and brighten my day whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Sep 1 2008, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Sep 1 2008, 08:11 PM)
Noisie is much more better today, she finish her smoothie and i jz added for her.. Omega smoothie ROX !!! even my candy loves it so much... sangels , i wanna kungfu u !!!  sapu all the omega smoothie !!! tongue.gif
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flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif Mike, don't kungfu me please. You can always get it from Nezu but I'm from far far away leh and I got so many to feed, 7 syrians at home now. sweat.gif Luckily I ordered in advance, i thought you already stock up before hand mah, don't know the smoothie will be out of stock also as the business was too good. icon_rolleyes.gif I give you ketupat 2.gif , HAHAHA... laugh.gif
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post Sep 1 2008, 08:44 PM

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Are you talking about flipping? Are your hamster WW?

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post Sep 1 2008, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Sep 1 2008, 11:08 PM)
no 1 flames u from the start, sangels talk to u nicely bt yet u replied in such a stubborn and HOLY way like u are a savior or wat so ever..if u are a person who kenot open up yr mind and understand, pls get the f*ck hell out of here, we dont need ppl like u in our forum. F*ck off !!

(sry ppl, kenot tahan ed vmad.gif )


Added on September 1, 2008, 11:10 pm
erm.. can i noe from where u took the name ivory and ebony? coz my fren named his hammy with dis 2 same name oso.. smile.gif
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Mike, calm down. We should leave the HAMSTER SAVIOR (as he requested) alone as he is someone who do not listen yet claim himself willing to learn. No point talking to the stone. yawn.gif

For mDinie:

For the art of being sarcastic, I don't think I can beat you as you are the best. Still long way to learn to reach your level.

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post Sep 2 2008, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Sep 1 2008, 11:58 PM)
/me agree...we dont fight here...
we give information here....

i jsut bough my gf a WW(pearl)....and also cage....anyway there is metal bar below the cage..so i just take it away...dun wan it to hurt the WW....
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that's good to hear that you are applying what you learn here. How about your own cage or tank for your hammies?
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post Sep 2 2008, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Sep 2 2008, 12:18 AM)
ya...sure i did...
there is new mall just open in johor..named sutera mall..and there is a pet shop inside...(weird...2 new mall open in jb..and got 2 new pet shop is opened).....
i just went to the mall and saw there is a big cage.....(include water bottle,food container,wheel,and also a big tube up on the cage(for it to climb over)) and it jsut cost rm45....it is cheap right???i plan to buy it for my own hammie...

for my gf WW,she jsut called me.and say her hammie very happily running on the wheell...and she saw the hammie strech it self b4 going into the wheel(so cute)
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biggrin.gif Happy for you and your hammies. Just make sure that your hammies is not a metal chewer or else they will chew the bar cage and it is poisonous to them cos the bars will rust.
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post Sep 2 2008, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Sep 2 2008, 12:31 AM)
hmmm..the shopkeeper ask me to beat my hammie backside if they naughty..is tat effective??
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif That's effective to make them scared and untame and also will make them to be defensive and bite you. They are rodents, not dog, they do not know how to obey command and understand punishment. So no point doing that to make them scared.
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post Sep 2 2008, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Sep 2 2008, 01:27 PM)
How to breed 2 females? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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And they are sister with different father... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 2 2008, 01:58 PM)
Sleeping in the toilet better than sleeping in the wheel. The wheel is now full of poo and food! laugh.gif

Ah, why does Nezu's ham don't stuff food? Mine seem to have stuff in her cheek ALL the time.
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Maybe they never experienced lack of food but too much food since born icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 2 2008, 03:05 PM)
lol but i want the smell in my room wor...
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You can make my hall as your room, I don't mind. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(hazzy @ Sep 2 2008, 04:21 PM)
hello hello all the chubby hamster owner  icon_rolleyes.gif

i would like to thanks to Nezumitaro, Pet Shack and whoever that helped for the hamster gathering  thumbup.gif

and Nezumitaro, thank you for all the door gift  thumbup.gif
and thank you for drinks and snacks  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

The gath is so lively  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

congrats Nezumitaro,Pet Shack,blurjoey & Sangels  icon_rolleyes.gif
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How come me included pulak??? I like didn't do anything except lepaking. hmm.gif
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post Sep 4 2008, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Sep 4 2008, 03:58 PM)
Not so soon I think. Her puffy gets a few months break after giving birth wan mar. Nezu is a good boss so give puffie long maternity break. biggrin.gif
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That's Brownie, not Puffie. Puffie is my baby now. wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
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post Sep 6 2008, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Sep 6 2008, 12:17 AM)
im having problems mah..thats why i wana know..coz im not in kl...
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if time is correct..ill go and reserve....
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Maybe you should visit her site for Fatsoso and write in to get the place for reservation as not everyone are suitable.

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 6 2008, 12:21 AM)
i get a batch of syrian babies from friend A...  i feed them with the fresh diet and bring them up... tamed them.. i sold some. and i keep 1, and pass to my friends 1 each, or 2.

now other than i breed my brownie, as i also canot over load her..

i bring home those which i give to my firned, and feed them to the best condition, then breed, then feed n bring up the pups...

yes so far only brownie batch is nice.  that is why i never breed until now.
lol no worries sophiera.. nothing can pressure me... i don't breed until i think its the best time smile.gif  if not sangels n blurjoey.. and shyne also no need to wait for so long lu..
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rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif Finally we got them... HAHAHAHA.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Xrossfire @ Sep 6 2008, 11:12 AM)
Guys & girls,

I need urgent advice on my Syrian hamster. She is about two years old.

Last two days, I believe she was not feeling well. Today it got worst, she keep rolling her body again and again and look very in pain.

I'm not sure of the sickness, but suspect it begins with wet tail.

Now, can anyone advice me a vet that treat hamsters? Hopefully it's reasonable fee as well.

Hope you guys can help. Please PM me if necessary.
Thanks in advance.
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I don't think it's wet tail as wet tail don't make hamster roll as they are too weak to move. Where you staying? You can visit Hand and Paws in Aman Suria Damamsara PJ or Segar Vets in Cheras Taman Segar near Leisure Mall. Segar Vets fees is reasonable. I brought my hamsters there before, try look for Dr Lum (female Dr).
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post Sep 6 2008, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Xrossfire @ Sep 6 2008, 11:43 AM)
She is like, writhing in pain, rolling and curling up at one spot, repeatedly.
I'm staying in Pandan Indah. And yes, Segar Vets looks like the best option. Do they open (or Dr. Lum available) on weekends? Do they open on Sunday?
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Yes. They open on Sunday even 24 hours on call, if you need their help on the odds hours, they charges may be higher than normal hours. Bring your hamster to them ASAP before it's too late.
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post Sep 6 2008, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(babymoli @ Sep 6 2008, 10:03 PM)
Yalor. Picked her up today. She's kinda stress at the moment.
blush.gif  Hahahaha... I thought is you who still don't know which flavor to get.
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I no need to think. I have to buy all... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

I have too many mouth to feed at home.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Sep 8 2008, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(hiroko_jiayi @ Sep 7 2008, 09:22 PM)
But i dun think it is dropping fur ... it was born like this ... somemore its just 2 months ... so basically i dun think its cause by bacteria or wat.
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I'll consider it might be in-breed complication.

QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Sep 7 2008, 10:08 PM)
Shit, my ruby eyes hamster died because of this
DAMM HEARTACHE
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My Fumoffu (black banded syrian) died of this also. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif It's too late even we bought him to the vets the next day. Vets said it's an eye infection and pus accumulate inside the socket of his eye ball. Only treatment is to remove the eye ball and this might lead to death as he can't take stress. The other option is on antibiotic treatment but it is only a try, surgery needed if the antibiotic is not work and he maybe stress and in pain while trying out with the antibiotics. Really painful and stress situation for us to decide what to do at that moment. The infection also spread really fast in his tiny body as it already spread to his lungs. So heart broken when we let him go. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(stephene86 @ Sep 7 2008, 11:06 PM)
hmmmmm..... i read from others forum that   eyemo for children can be used.... and also salt water and grape juice like ribena help  also but i don know it work or not or how much is the mixture percentage. for sore eye like that. mayb can go vet ask for the eye med for small animals sad.gif
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Please do not be own vets or doctor as we have limited knowledge even we google for the answers, or else those professionals no need to spend so many years studying in just one disciplin. Always bring to vets when we come across this kind of health problem before it's too late and risk our pet's life if we really love our pets.

p/s: FYI, Protein is not the main nutrient for human to have healthy hairs. Human needs Vitamins to have healthy hairs, like Vitamin A, B5, B6, B12, C, and E is the most important nutrients for humans as well as animals.

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post Sep 12 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(sky_haunter @ Sep 12 2008, 06:48 AM)
What is Abcesses actually? Some kind of illness. How do they get this?
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Abcess = pus / nanah (in Malay). with 'es' mean more than one abcess or pus collections. It's pus in medical term.

QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Sep 12 2008, 01:34 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif 
my agouti hammie die liao...when i wake up this morning..i see it lying in the wheel.....didnt move..
im so sad.....
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RIP for your agouti. It's wet tail disease. It's too late as it will died within 24 hours if not treatment. Clean your cage and all the accessories and disinfect with diluted delto and wash it several times with water. Change all the bedding, food and water for your the other hamster. Observe your hamster from now to the next few days, if any of the signs of wet tail, please bring it to the vet ASAP, or else it will end up with the same ending. Wet tail is very contagious and deadly to hamsters. One of my hamster died of wet tail too.

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post Sep 12 2008, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 12 2008, 02:05 PM)
Sangels, you're the one with Kiko right? How is she now? Still loving the bellyrubs?


Added on September 12, 2008, 3:00 pm@Jack/Joan

My bro bought from you the new bottle today and it's not flowing. Is it supposed to be little bit or something or I've put in too much water or what? @_@

And special position?
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Yes, Kiko is ours. She still as tame as before with 'can do whatever you like on me' attitude. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Sep 12 2008, 03:39 PM)
ok.......i scared it may have infected...my gold one looks so tired today.....
but still no significant symptoms....
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Observe your gold and if it is not eating for the next few hours, bring to the vet as wet tail is very contagious and infected hamster usually can't last for 2 days or even less than 24 hours.
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post Sep 14 2008, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Sep 14 2008, 07:03 AM)
my oreo is fine. cleaned both cages yesterday. tiring work (cant imagine how sangles and bluyjoey and crazymouse do it for all their tanks sweat.gif). i use chipsi + BC for the bedding but in Oreo's tank, i put more BC coz the chipsi all get stuck into its fur. I also gave him a house, but he dowan to sleep in the house. Last time i put a big cup inside for it, and it likes to sleep inside. I think will put in the cup again.

food wise, its eating well. doesnt really like to eat mealies tho. not as much as my WW who greedily grabs it.

Lately I've started a full time course so dont really hv time to play with them as before (coz im out from 7am to about 6pm) but i make it a point to play with them every 2 days. My sister will usually feed smoothies and top up the dry food when necessary smile.gif

haha..she's so cute

I tot i had a packet of toilet sand at home..then when i got home, i realize its bath sand. need to get some toilet sand soon
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Then you should come and help us clean one day and you'll see how... HAHAHAHA..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(White Palace @ Sep 14 2008, 10:51 AM)
Glad that you enjoy @ FLUFF, hope to see you around again!
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Yeah... We enjoy ourselves too yesterday in FLUFF... all cute cute and friendly puppies really poisoning... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(shayne @ Sep 14 2008, 05:34 PM)
aiya... u came yesterday ar? i was unfit and dun hav the chance to meet u tim... come again then i belanja u minum ya...
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Yeap... Sure will go again if we have time and go get poison by all the pets there. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif Hope you are alright now. I wanted to see Mainie but the fella is too sleepy and hiding inside the home with all the bedding covering the door. sad.gif Played with Jojo, he is so adorable and tame, glad that he found a lovely owner and staying in the castle like our JackJack rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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