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post Aug 21 2008, 03:02 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hihi.. Just created a new thread here to discuss bout the new budgeted AMP which is review good by lotsa ppl around the world.

Below are some snapshot of my Fiio. Just received today from Hong Kong. lolx

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http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/20...mini-review.php

Just tested it and wow.. it really improve the sound by 20 - 30% of the default max volume. The down side of this amp is we can't control its volume and have to control it via mp3 player or our media player itself. lolx

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post Aug 21 2008, 03:39 PM

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quite decent amp.
It managed to improve the bass,
wider soundstage.

really worth for paying rm30+ smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2008, 08:53 PM

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cheap and improve worth the money....
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post Aug 21 2008, 09:15 PM

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totally worth the money, significant bass improve and got more details, i can hear those details i couldnt before, like the piano sound was so realistic!


Added on August 21, 2008, 9:16 pmbtw, wat is the player beside it?

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post Aug 22 2008, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:15 PM)
totally worth the money, significant bass improve and got more details, i can hear those details i couldnt before, like the piano sound was so realistic!


Added on August 21, 2008, 9:16 pmbtw, wat is the player beside it?
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Its a Samsung P2 . lolx . Looks like quite a no of ppl in LYN own this amp also. lolx
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post Aug 22 2008, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Tsukasa @ Aug 22 2008, 01:11 PM)
Its a Samsung P2 . lolx . Looks like quite a no of ppl in LYN own this amp also. lolx
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post Aug 22 2008, 08:49 PM

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I'll be receiving my 2nd FiiO in next week or so (was given a free one by a good friend). For the price, I'll say it is good buy; for the performance, it is just okay. It does boost the bass quite a bit and give an overall warmer sound, but detail does suffered a bit. I won't recommend anyone using it on serious auditioning, but it is a really fun gadget to have around and listen to regardlessly.

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post Aug 23 2008, 11:10 AM

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lost in details? I heard more details on my ksc75 and my razer piranha where before it was just blant high and mid sound.
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post Aug 23 2008, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 23 2008, 11:10 AM)
lost in details?
If you look at the freq. resp. graph of E3, you'll know why I described it as less detail. You probably won't notice much if you are using a fairly detail headphone and not listening to it on a very serious manner. I can definitely tell the lost of treble on my Triple.fi 10, and it doesn't really work very well with my SE530 (synergy issue here). I'll say E3 works best w/ brighter sounding headphone. Headphone like EP-630 (which is already very warm and dark sounding) won't get much improvement from it.
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post Aug 23 2008, 10:49 PM

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I'm currently using Crossroad XB and the sound is fine but the downpart is that there is like click sound if i change to different mp3. Wonder if this is the effect of the amp. Even at low volume, when changing song there is hissing sound behind. lolx
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post Aug 24 2008, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 23 2008, 02:09 PM)
If you look at the freq. resp. graph of E3, you'll know why I described it as less detail. You probably won't notice much if you are using a fairly detail headphone and not listening to it on a very serious manner. I can definitely tell the lost of treble on my Triple.fi 10, and it doesn't really work very well with my SE530 (synergy issue here). I'll say E3 works best w/ brighter sounding headphone. Headphone like EP-630 (which is already very warm and dark sounding) won't get much improvement from it.
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Ya, i am using ksc75 and it is brighter so i would say it really give a lot of improvement on the low.
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Just in case any one interested in the freq. resp., I generated one of my own.
Go-vibes USB DAC is the baseline, compare to Practical Devices XM3, Travagans Colors (dogbone), and FiiO E3 of course.
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Also want to add that FiiO E5 is currently under development, and will have the below features:
* Independent On/Off switch
* Electronic volume control to eliminate hissing after long usage
* Back clip
* Build-in rechargeable Li-ion battery
* USB charging circuit

New functions include:

* Output power increases 30%
* Better SNR
* Less distortion
* Better resistance to electromagnetic interference

E5 will be roughly the same size as E3, but slimmer.

No release date yet.


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More on E5: The release date is scheduled to be before Christmas, still no specific time yet. The demo set is currently being tested, and is claimed to have 'overall improved SQ, especially on soundstage and clarity. Original bass enhancement has been kept, but is optional to accommodate different headphone'
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post Sep 14 2008, 08:28 PM

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post Oct 13 2008, 03:00 PM

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I notice that it amplify NOISE!! crazyly loud whitenoise in background on my workstation's audigy. me and my friend also got the same issue.
we get it from DealXtreme.

Using E3 with Mylar Bijou, did not notice any noticeable difference except it sound really loud, hence the amplifying part. Sound Quality still haven't show up.
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QUOTE(m4a1rifle @ Oct 13 2008, 03:00 PM)
I notice that it amplify NOISE!! crazyly loud whitenoise in background on my workstation's audigy. me and my friend also got the same issue.
we get it from DealXtreme.

Using E3 with Mylar Bijou, did not notice any noticeable difference except  it sound really loud, hence the amplifying part. Sound Quality still haven't show up.
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well, if u and ur fren are planning to let go of your E3, can PM me tongue.gif
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post Oct 13 2008, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 23 2008, 02:09 PM)
If you look at the freq. resp. graph of E3, you'll know why I described it as less detail. You probably won't notice much if you are using a fairly detail headphone and not listening to it on a very serious manner. I can definitely tell the lost of treble on my Triple.fi 10, and it doesn't really work very well with my SE530 (synergy issue here). I'll say E3 works best w/ brighter sounding headphone. Headphone like EP-630 (which is already very warm and dark sounding) won't get much improvement from it.
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Agree nod.gif . It work best in some headphone which is bright one but it doesn't improve the overall SQ a lot. For ksc75 which has a very good synergy with E3. You will hear more body on bass and sound signal much warm compare to unamped ksc75.

cheers.

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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Oct 13 2008, 04:46 PM)
well, if u and ur fren are planning to let go of your E3, can PM me tongue.gif
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Well, you got pm rclxms.gif


Added on October 13, 2008, 7:51 pmUpdate. Noise isn't so noticeable on cleaner source such as my Sony E407 MP3 player.

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post Oct 23 2008, 10:07 PM

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post Oct 24 2008, 01:37 PM

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Just want to inform you guys that the E5 will be ready for market within a month or 2.

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Oct 24 2008, 01:37 PM)
Just want to inform you guys that the E5 will be ready for market within a month or 2.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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what's the estimated price? drool.gif

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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Oct 24 2008, 02:37 PM)
what's the estimated price?  drool.gif
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China local price is around US$16~20 when released, so international price is expected to be slightly higher (adding in the shipping).
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post Oct 25 2008, 02:18 AM

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my bet would be less than rm100 smile.gif too bad it is not widely available in Malaysia sad.gif
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:16 PM

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Here are some picture of the up-coming E5, which I got as a sample directly from FiiO. The final product would probably be ready for market in few short weeks.

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post Nov 21 2008, 03:32 PM

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e5 available now?? can someone bring it here drool.gif

http://www.slashgear.com/fiio-e5-headphone...lifier-1923327/
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post Nov 21 2008, 05:54 PM

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do a review soon biggrin.gif
how much would be the retail price? around the same as E3?
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QUOTE(syazone @ Nov 21 2008, 03:32 PM)
e5 available now?? can someone bring it here drool.gif

http://www.slashgear.com/fiio-e5-headphone...lifier-1923327/
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Not released yet, but you will likely to see it before the end of December.

QUOTE(cyew86 @ Nov 21 2008, 05:54 PM)
do a review soon biggrin.gif
how much would be the retail price? around the same as E3?
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I have an impression on Head-fi, check it out here.

I'll expect it to be around (and hopefully less than) RM100 by the time it reaches Malaysia.
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im using cx300 pair with meizu+ fiio amp...bass improve but it hurts my ear when i listen more than 30 minutes...the treble a bit tenggelam...maybe bcoz of the bass...

overall ok...it improve the sound...worth a try...happy.gif


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Now available in deal extreme (pre-order)

around 70-80 per unit include shipment.

Wait review from other 1st


http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18350
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post Dec 1 2008, 04:44 AM

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wat is the player beside it?
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post Dec 1 2008, 04:47 AM

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r u asking me?

I didn't see any player beside E5 except E5.

This brand new unit look like ipod shuttle
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Kinda dislike the ipod shuffle look... If wear it around ppl will think its some cheap imitation ipod shuffle.. doh.gif

But for the price its very reasonable...
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Already pre-ordered two. Don't really care how other look at me since I am already wearing the big stick TF10 on the street. laugh.gif

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post Dec 1 2008, 02:38 PM

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anyone doing bulk for it?
and to ClieOS, if you wanna let go 1, let me know tongue.gif thanks

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post Dec 1 2008, 02:52 PM

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The new E5 sound promising, if the power amp chip TPA6130A inside sounds up to 70% of it's bro TPA6120 (using inside Little Dot MK1), that would be quite awesome biggrin.gif
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ClieOS do u mind add a order for me.

I will give full pay. no have paypal/credit card >.<
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For all of you who don't have a credit card or paypal, don't worry. Jaben is FiiO dealer at Singapore and they are definitely bringing in the E5.So if you are interested in E5, just pay attention to yuheng or walabies' bulk buy section. I am sure they can score some stock from Jaben once it is available.
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well, although u said so, they stopped bringing in E3 after their first bulk sad.gif
would certainly hope that they would bring in this time, i am withholding my E3 purchase for now
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i just placed a purchase to buy the e5 just now after i saw the ridiculous price.. haha will use it for something..

what u guys think of this...

Xfi out 3 cables (5 channel audio). then each 3.5mm out is passed through an e5 then from that feed to an AVR or pc speakers with 5.1 setup... comments? lol im thinking of doing this.. hahaha i compare this is cheaper than getting those fancy cables.. LoL!
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Dec 2 2008, 03:41 AM)
well, although u said so, they stopped bringing in E3 after their first bulk sad.gif
would certainly hope that they would bring in this time, i am withholding my E3 purchase for now
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I am sure if enough of you are interested, you can bulk order / group buy it with them or at least you can be sure that some of you can get one.
QUOTE(callmevil @ Dec 2 2008, 07:31 AM)
Xfi out 3 cables (5 channel audio). then each 3.5mm out is passed through an e5 then from that feed to an AVR or pc speakers with 5.1 setup... comments? lol im thinking of doing this.. hahaha i compare this is cheaper than getting those fancy cables.. LoL!
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You PC speaker already has an internal power amp so I won't recommend placing another amp in front of it.
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yup juz like ipod itself got an internal amp if u place the fiio out from the ipod headphone jack then u feel nothing!
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QUOTE(xianyao @ Dec 2 2008, 10:06 AM)
yup juz like ipod itself got an internal amp if u place the fiio out from the ipod headphone jack then u feel nothing!
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Not necessary. If you are using an high impedance, low sensitivity headphone (like Etymotic ER4S or Head-Direct RE) on your DAP that doesn't have a line-out, an small amp on the headphone-out actually will help a lot. It isn't optimum, but it is still better than none.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Dec 2 2008, 09:28 AM)
I am sure if enough of you are interested, you can bulk order / group buy it with them or at least you can be sure that some of you can get one.

You PC speaker already has an internal power amp so I won't recommend placing another amp in front of it.
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during their store lucky draw giveaways i notified walabies abt my interest in getting an E3 if they have extras, but no news from him so far
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hmm not sure when my e5 will be shipped.. sighh
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post Dec 4 2008, 11:52 PM

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where can i get e5??
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QUOTE(syazone @ Dec 4 2008, 11:52 PM)
where can i get e5??
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mp4nation, dealextreme, and maybe later Jaben.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Dec 5 2008, 12:08 AM)
mp4nation, dealextreme, and maybe later Jaben.
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Still in Pre-order status don't need how long yet

Retail price hope no increase after release and available at here
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mp4nation is shipping their stock as of now, dealextreme will probably be in another one or two weeks, same as Jaben.


Added on December 5, 2008, 12:17 pmIt seems Head-Direct.com also accepts order now

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I just updated my impression on E5, you can read it here. biggrin.gif
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Any improvement if used with UM2..?
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Dec 13 2008, 10:53 PM)
Any improvement if used with UM2..?
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Not using w/ UM2, cause it doesn't really need amp to sound good. Westone's IEM generally doesn't benefit much from amp cause all of them are very efficient.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Dec 14 2008, 01:03 AM)
Not using w/ UM2, cause it doesn't really need amp to sound good. Westone's IEM generally doesn't benefit much from amp cause all of them are very efficient.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Dec 14 2008, 01:03 AM)
Not using w/ UM2, cause it doesn't really need amp to sound good. Westone's IEM generally doesn't benefit much from amp cause all of them are very efficient.
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Great.. biggrin.gif

Saves me some money.. laugh.gif
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Hi guys, I just kicked start an bulk order for FiiO E5, great chance for you to own a piece of this awesome gadget. You can check it out through my signature link biggrin.gif
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I also do bulk lo then... tongue.gif
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Just got my E5 Amp today....
Does it need sometime to run like "burning-in" too?

So far it works quite well for my MP3 player, but when I pair it up with laptop + E5 amp + ATH-M50, noticed the SQ is not as good as ATH-M50 directly plug into the laptop. :S
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New Fiio E5 owner, pairing with Sansa Clip output to MX400. The bass boost on/off is good for applying to certain songs. For those long session of listening can turn off the bass boost.

Also good to have it on hand in future when one upgrade to high impedance earbud/IEM. thumbup.gif

Is it normal to hear some amount of hiss when the volume is at maximum while no music is played?

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got my E5 today from erikachen! first impressions very good. really enjoying it now smile.gif
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Planning to get this but wanna know does it really improves the SQ much or just amplify the sound? Would it be nice to be used with Shure E2G earphone?
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 19 2009, 08:56 AM)
Planning to get this but wanna know does it really improves the SQ much or just amplify the sound? Would it be nice to be used with Shure E2G earphone?
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depends on the earphone itself bro... i pair it with my stock iphone buds and i have to admit... the separation of instrument is really good.... the bass boost itself giving it more punchy but not the kind of fatigue bass... overall it is nice for my iphone stock buds but not my bijou, as i couldnt feel anything improving accept the bass boost....
im not sure about shure e2g phones... but if u really need some good bass boosting... i think this is one of the cheapest way u can find...

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i can use this cute little amp to power my headphones
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i had highly expected to E5 once i play with it.... kinda dissapoint to it's performance.. by the way, if u seeking a cool looking, punchy bass, and loud amp, it's the way u go... seeking for details and big soundstage sound? this won't work for u....
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For US$20 or less, you can't really expect any magic out of it, for sure.
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QUOTE(chchyong89 @ Mar 20 2009, 02:39 PM)
i had highly expected to E5 once i play with it.... kinda dissapoint to it's performance.. by the way, if u seeking a cool looking, punchy bass, and loud amp, it's the way u go... seeking for details and big soundstage sound? this won't work for u....
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I think E5 worth another chance with a decent DIY mini-mini cable, I got the feeling the stock one quite sucky biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Mar 20 2009, 05:29 PM)
I think E5 worth another chance with a decent DIY mini-mini cable, I got the feeling the stock one quite sucky biggrin.gif
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DIY cable mostly will better then stock cable , but DIY cable will cost more then the amp edi sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AngleR35 @ Mar 20 2009, 05:58 PM)
DIY cable mostly will better then stock cable , but DIY cable will cost more then the amp edi  sweat.gif
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1 neutrik mini stereo plug only around RM5 each, so RM10 for plug
then 1 meter canare L-2B2AT probably cost lower than RM10/m, u just need no more than 10cm for a short cable connecting your PMP and FIIO E5.

So max cost spent on a DIY cable just need RM20, of course u gotta do it yourself biggrin.gif else expect another RM40 - RM60 for soldering help from other biggrin.gif

But one thing for sure, this is going to be better than stock one smile.gif

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got a e5 from a bulk...i am quite disappointed with it because i found

that e5 produce a louder hissing sound compared to e3... i am using

Meizu M6 SP and Koss ksc75 to test it...

is there anyway to reduce or eliminate the hissing sound ?

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which kind earphone should i pair with E5 to get the most of it...
cuz i don't find any noticeable improvement or should i say difference using the E5 amp...my earphone is razer m100.
and the mini mini diy cable..how to get that.? or any link to the topic?


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just go to music & audio related accessories section... type DIY cable in Search then will come out a few forumers that do DIY cable

i did notice some improvement... like warmer sound from the singer but that depends on what materials you use for the cable... ask the person to suggest what cable you should use

PS - don't expect a lot improvement from using better cable... just slight
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we shouldnt expect too much for this little amp. do you expect such a tiny amp to perform as well as those Ray samuels amp? however, for such a a very tiny amp and considering it's price, this would be the best choice out there.
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QUOTE(Dybre @ Mar 28 2009, 01:52 AM)
we shouldnt expect too much for this little amp. do you expect such a tiny amp to perform as well as those Ray samuels amp? however, for such a a very tiny amp and considering it's price, this would be the best choice out there.
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i am just using a DIY cable to max out its potential

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QUOTE(kumanosuke @ Mar 28 2009, 01:57 AM)
agree

i am just using a DIY cable to max out its potential
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May be you should also consider a better headphone as well. The whole system is only going to be as strong as its weakest link.
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haha you have got me...

now i am actually thinking of getting a new headphone

but i haven't test this setup using my headphone AudioTechnica T-22

what do you think of this setup Meizu M6 SP -> switchcraft plug with SPC(silver plater cooper) -> fiio e5 -> AudioTechnica T-22 ?

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headphone or earphone which one got a better advantage pairing with E5?...what is the impedance of the headset?
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will tell you when i get my headphone back...

most of the people use earphone for portable usage because headphone is kinda bulky

earphone and headphone give different sound signature... thus it depends on which sound signature you like
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Tested with ATH-M50... I noticed it doesn't give a significant effect when paired up with a full size can.
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QUOTE(CLF @ Mar 28 2009, 11:25 AM)
Tested with ATH-M50... I noticed it doesn't give a significant effect when paired up with a full size can.
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FIIO amp cannot pust much, better get a cmoy or little dot portable...
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FIIO amp cannot pust much, better get a cmoy or little dot portable...
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agree, i would suggest use a low impedance phones instead of high impendance phones. best to use with IEM.
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QUOTE(Dybre @ Mar 28 2009, 01:43 PM)
agree, i would suggest use a low impedance phones instead of high impendance phones. best to use with IEM.
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what will happen if i use a high impendance phones? noob here...
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what will happen if i use a high impendance phones? noob here...
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High demand headphone will response well with high output amp. If the output isn't good enough, SQ will not be at its best.
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hello guys
am keen to get a portable amp but it does seems like there is a lot of complaints on hiss on this can and how its not powerful enough for cans.
My questions are
1) what is the best next upgrade from FiiO E5 amp?
2) can a portable amp work with noise cancelling headphones?

PS: im using SONY MDR NC 7 (latest value model)
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QUOTE(carpathia @ Mar 28 2009, 11:04 PM)
hello guys
am keen to get a portable amp but it does seems like there is a lot of complaints on hiss on this can and how its not powerful enough for cans.
My questions are
1) what is the best next upgrade from FiiO E5 amp?
2) can a portable amp work with noise cancelling headphones?

PS: im using SONY  MDR NC 7 (latest value model)
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Q1: A cmoy. generally cost about US$50 if you buy it from eBay. Less if you build it yourself. There are also a few forum members here that can build one for you.

Q2: Sure.

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yay i like to join the club just got one few days ago from casey here

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=882634&hl=Fiio

the amp is light and sexy really helps increase my psp 's volume, amazing its so cheap and yet quality built is exceptional..


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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Mar 28 2009, 05:15 PM)
At worst? Nothing happens.

High demand headphone will response well with high output amp. If the output isn't good enough, SQ will not be at its best.
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so low output amp is for low impendance phones i presume hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ah liew @ Mar 29 2009, 01:52 PM)
so low output amp is for low  impendance phones i presume  hmm.gif
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Generally, yes. You will also have to consider the sensitivity of the 'phone. Below 100dB/1mW is slightly more difficult to drive, beyond 110d/1mW is considered very easy to drive. Some headphones, though have spec that don't seems to be hard to drive, still require a lot of current reserve to perform well. For example, AKG K701.
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So if my Klipsch Custom-3sensitivity is 115dB and the impedence is 32ohm, that means it's easy to drive? Do i still need to buy these amps if it's so? I checked my Shure E2G spec,the sensitivity is 105dB but the impedence is 16ohm. is it low or high? Or medium? xD
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 29 2009, 06:35 PM)
So if my Klipsch Custom-3sensitivity is 115dB and the impedence is 32ohm, that means it's easy to drive? Do i still need to buy these amps if it's so? I checked my Shure E2G spec,the sensitivity is 105dB but the impedence is 16ohm. is it low or high? Or medium? xD
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On spec, both should be relatively easy to drive. However, just because it is easy to drive doesn't means it won't improve upon amping. As I said before, some headphone benefit from big current reserve, and you can't tell that from spec. You will have to try it out to find out. Some amp also have coloration that might be favored by the user, like the bass boost in E3 and E5.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Mar 29 2009, 07:22 PM)
On spec, both should be relatively easy to drive. However, just because it is easy to drive doesn't means it won't improve upon amping. As I said before, some headphone benefit from big current reserve, and you can't tell that from spec. You will have to try it out to find out. Some amp also have coloration that might be favored by the user, like the bass boost in E3 and E5.
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I see, thxs bunch for the explanation, I'm quite new to IEM thingy so I dunno much about this amp thing cool.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Mar 29 2009, 07:22 PM)
On spec, both should be relatively easy to drive. However, just because it is easy to drive doesn't means it won't improve upon amping. As I said before, some headphone benefit from big current reserve, and you can't tell that from spec. You will have to try it out to find out. Some amp also have coloration that might be favored by the user, like the bass boost in E3 and E5.
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How abt im716?after amping got any improvement?
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How abt im716?after amping got any improvement?
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I belive IM716 would benefit if amp with E5, to provide IM716 power and much needed bass smile.gif
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Hehe, Anyone wants to sell their Fiio E5 to me at cheap cheap price? Wanna get it but i'm afraid that it will not improve the SQ much doh.gif
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Apr 1 2009, 06:16 PM)
Hehe, Anyone wants to sell their Fiio E5 to me at cheap cheap price? Wanna get it but i'm afraid that it will not improve the SQ much  doh.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Apr 1 2009, 06:10 PM)
I belive IM716 would benefit if amp with E5, to provide IM716 power and much needed bass smile.gif
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Btw allow me 2 ask some stupid question.. tis amp can amp wif edifier M3300?
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Btw allow me 2 ask some stupid question.. tis amp can amp wif edifier M3300?
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You can use it with M3300, but since M330 already has its own power amp, all E5 will do is making it slightly louder.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 1 2009, 07:21 PM)
You can use it with M3300, but since M330 already has its own power amp, all E5 will do is making it slightly louder.
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yaya.. It really making it louder but din improve the SQ..
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Apr 1 2009, 06:21 PM)
Well, it depends on your earphone/IEM, warm sounding Fiio E5 best to pair with bright headphone.
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noob here, can u tell me wat do u mean by bright headphones?
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Who tried this b4?

http://www.ahkang.org/audio/Building%2520t...iy%2520kit.html

lol
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Apr 6 2009, 02:03 AM)
Who tried this b4?
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I did, and still own it. With OPA2134, this little cmoy actually sounds really good.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 08:16 AM)
I did, and still own it. With OPA2134, this little cmoy actually sounds really good.
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How's the sound compared to Fiio E5 ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Apr 6 2009, 09:25 AM)
How's the sound compared to Fiio E5 ?  hmm.gif
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Like I said before (Post #82), cmoy is considered a step up from E5.
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as for me, E5 is a decent amp, portable and just nice for my iphone.... too bad i havent order the LOD yet, which is in no doubt will change my iphone sound....

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LOD stands for what>?
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LOD stands for what>?
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Line Out Dock - a cable that connects to the player's dock connector that draws out the line-out signal. Usually has an 3.5mm mini plug on the other end so user can plug into an portable amp.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 07:43 PM)
Line Out Dock - a cable that connects to the player's dock connector that draws out the line-out signal. Usually has an 3.5mm mini plug on the other end so user can plug into an portable amp.
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Is LOD better than 3.5mm normal output?
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it's supposed to be better... biggrin.gif
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any reason or explanation behind that?
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Here is how things work in DAP:

Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone.

DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound.

AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control).

In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones.

Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none).
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM)
Here is how things work in DAP:

Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone.

DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound.

AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control).

In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones.

Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none).
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Very detailed explanation bro, thumbs up for newbie like me. I learned new stuff today laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM)
Here is how things work in DAP:

Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone.

DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound.

AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control).

In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones.

Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none).
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wow, at last, after so much of reading, and a lot of confusions when i read audiophilers discussion, now i know wat they mean!
so that is really wat it all means...

good stuff here, all so plain and easy to understand!

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM)
Here is how things work in DAP:

Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone.

DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound.

AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control).

In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones.

Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none).
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That mean if there are no line out in our portable device, then it is not suitable for us to use external amplifier to amplify our portable device? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Fred86 @ Apr 7 2009, 05:40 PM)
That mean if there are no line out in our portable device, then it is not suitable for us to use external amplifier to amplify our portable device?  hmm.gif
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It is not 'ideal', but you can still get good result from amping headphone-out as long as the headphone-out is very good in SQ and 'clean' (low noise).
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i still hear good changes eventhou im using the stock cable with mini 3.5mm.
the bass is tighten and the isolation of music is quite good, but hopefully i'll be hearing more with the LOD...(hopefully... hahahaha!)
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Okay. I just grab the Fiio E5 and I was thinking of changing the small and fine stock cable but I've no idea which one to choose and they're so many seller selling the DIY able out there at the music section. Will it shows improvement after changing the stock cable I wonder? hmm.gif

Attached Image This one

Attached Image this one

OR LOD

Attached Image this type better or this type Attached Image ?
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Question.

How long usually does the E5 take for it to be fully charged?

Or just wait until the red light goes off regardless of the duration?
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QUOTE(hirari @ May 13 2009, 09:27 PM)
Question.

How long usually does the E5 take for it to be fully charged?

Or just wait until the red light goes off regardless of the duration?
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Depends on the output of the USB adapter / port, but usually it is less tha 3 hrs... and yes, till the right light goes off.
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anyone.....

juz asking if the E5 can go well with a Sennheiser HD555...

if not,... any recommandation on any other suitable portable amp.
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go for mini 3 cheap2 onli
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klipsch custom-1 and e5 tongue.gif good combo
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I am compelled to ask.

What about iBasso T4?

Is there anyone here using it?

Is it still available in the market?
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I am compelled to ask.

What about iBasso T4?

Is there anyone here using it?

Is it still available in the market?
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T4 is still in the market. You can think of it as the refined E5 - better on all count but a lot more expensive.
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Guys.. is this amp available at lowyat itself?...
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Now i am using this setup

Nokia N85 > FiiO E5 > Klipsch Custom-1

I did not notice any interference when there is incoming call which is good.

No hissing sound

Bass Boost add oomph to the music.

The price is insanely cheap rm75...value for money..
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hi , new user of fiio e5 ....

notice kinda many interference from sound card and a lil from ipod shuffle ....
cable problem ? or the source? .... i din experience this using im716 alone...
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You need to tell us what kind of interference we are talking about first.
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any 1 got any idea how to open up the e3? kinda worry i crack it biggrin.gif
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E3 is glued tight. the only way to open it is to crack it.
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why u wanna open it ? got problem edi O.o ?
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i have heard that fiio is coming up with a desktop amp which is either E1 or E7, is it true? smile.gif
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E7 will be amp+DAC that can be used both portably or on desktop. E1 will be be a portable amp that has a unique design.

I actually have the early spec here for feedback purposes, but I have agreed not to share any detail. All I can say is, if you like E5, then you will definitely like the upcoming amps. Of course, they will also be very affordable.
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opps , found the problem , the usb charger seem to be the source of the interference .... =p
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wow , ClieOS , quite waiting about ur review for it .

Mind to share when it will coming ?
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ May 24 2009, 11:32 PM)
All I can say is, if you like E5, then you will definitely like the upcoming amps. Of course, they will also be very affordable.
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wow , ClieOS , quite waiting about ur review for it .

Mind to share when it will coming ?
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I am not sure when is the release date, but I will keep you guys informed.
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I am not sure when is the release date, but I will keep you guys informed.
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i just got my E5,my se310 sounds much better without it though =(( disappointingly...produces an annoying hissing sound as well.=((
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fiio E3 with ksc75 will improve a lot of sounstage and more airly,the detail can be punch out a bit more.^^
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To minimize hiss, you need to keep the source volume high (assuming you are using headphone-out) and E5's volume low. This also helps to keep the dynamic range high (SQ is better this way).
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e7 or viper?clieos review pls wink.gif
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E7 is not out yet. In fact, no release date yet.
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viper for me then..brows.gif
xandman predator WAYYYYYYYY u know wat i mean..but hes selling it it cheap..
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go for viper paca!
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viper bttr but for rm300 n not for portable..i wonder how zero vs viper?
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viper bttr but for rm300 n not for portable..i wonder how zero vs viper?
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Better as in? Does Viper works well with IE8?
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theres a lot of review..at head fi..
but beware..i dont think ur ie8 is safe after that tongue.gif
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theres a lot of review..at head fi..
but beware..i dont think ur ie8 is safe after that tongue.gif
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I'm lazy to google and read around in head-fi, that's why I ask here, thought I can get the answer quickly xD
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im not Paca la.. im his rumate.. just share computer... we at USM now
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im not Paca la.. im his rumate.. just share computer... we at USM now
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My Fiio E5 doesn't seem to improve the sound quality by much though..However, when I push the bass control button to the middle, instead to either side, the sound really does improve a lot..

I guess it's my own impression only? If anyone tries it and feels it's true, please tell me!
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My Fiio E5 doesn't seem to improve the sound quality by much though..However, when I push the bass control button to the middle, instead to either side, the sound really does improve a lot..

I guess it's my own impression only? If anyone tries it and feels it's true, please tell me!
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if thats how u feel then it must be true... maybe a defect? in terms of fiio E5, it tighten the bass making the bass sound fuller and sweet.... and yeah... it makes ur phones louder.... but i do feel that (using my bijou 4 as comparison) the soundstage also improves a lot... well after i use LOD of course....
im enjoying more with my E5+bijou 4 now than ever....
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QUOTE(killz23 @ Jun 5 2009, 03:00 PM)
My Fiio E5 doesn't seem to improve the sound quality by much though..However, when I push the bass control button to the middle, instead to either side, the sound really does improve a lot..

I guess it's my own impression only? If anyone tries it and feels it's true, please tell me!
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Nope, it's true, I've tried as you hv suggested last time and the SQ does improve a little bit, louder with heavier bass, but not sure whether it will damage the E5 or the IEM or not xD Fiio E5 only works with certain IEM IMO, like when I was pairing it with my Klipsch C-3, the SQ improved a lot, but with IE8, I don't feel any improvement at all. So in the end, sayonara Fiio E5 whistling.gif
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Jun 5 2009, 07:09 PM)
Nope, it's true, I've tried as you hv suggested last time and the SQ does improve a little bit, louder with heavier bass, but not sure whether it will damage the E5 or the IEM or not xD Fiio E5 only works with certain IEM IMO, like when I was pairing it with my Klipsch C-3, the SQ improved a lot, but with IE8, I don't feel any improvement at all. So in the end, sayonara Fiio E5  whistling.gif
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hahaha thanks for confirming biggrin.gif haha..I'm trying it with my HD 555..I think it's much better to pair E5 with HD555 and HD 201..Somehow, I can feel there's a difference there..rather than with HD 212 pro tongue.gif I dont know why...hehe
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Any owner of Philips SHP 8900? What am I expecting from Philips SHP 8900 + Fiio E5?
8900 must be driven with a headphone amp and it sounds quite good with PA2V2, the Canadian amp. I'm not sure if Fiio E5 would be equal or better.
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i am selling my Fiio E5

please visit my Thread below for more info

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry26435236
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i own a fiio e5 as well, it perfectly boosted the clarity and bass for most earphones n headphones, but there are also certain that it wont work
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This has been posted on Head-Fi for a few days now, but I guess I post it here as well.
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I just received an email from our friends over at FiiO (Thanks, James) with more information regarding their new amps, and this time I get the go-ahead to share them with all of you.

Here is the rendering of the new FiiO E1, an in-line amp for iPod. No production shot yet since FiiO has yet to make the final production model. It utilizes the power supply and line-out signal from iPod dock connection and incorporate an digital volume control as a remote. You can think of it as the union of E5 + LOD. The ETA is around end of August / early September. Not sure about the price yet.

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Here are some pre-production shot of FiiO E7, FiiO upcoming USB DAC + AMP, note that this is not the final look (but it probably won't be too far off). Battery life is expected to be >100hrs, The 5 sides of the housing are CNC'ed aluminum (with harden acrylic on the last). ETA is estimated at December (likely around X'mas like the E5). There will be a dock planned for later release, which will enable remote control function and two line-out (one variable and one not) in case you want to connect it to speaker or use the DAC function only. E7 will have a special dock connector for docking and there is also plan for further accessories development, which will allow connection to desktop amp, mini Hi-Fi set, speaker and such. E7's price is estimated to be lower than US$100.

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So, any thing else you want to know?
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wow juicy details!
I do read of Fiio's portable speakers on AnythingButIpod.

FiiO S3 (link)
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FiiO PS1110 (link)
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QUOTE(CLF @ Aug 1 2009, 10:13 PM)
wow juicy details!
I do read of Fiio's portable speakers on AnythingButIpod.

FiiO S3 (link)
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FiiO PS1110 (link)
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i am using FiiO PS1110,the sound quality is nice, most of my friend impressive by how it perform!!

FiiO S3 is the one can insert in the sd card, the sound quality is more or less same with FiiO PS1110. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 1 2009, 04:12 PM)
This has been posted on Head-Fi for a few days now, but I guess I post it here as well.
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I just received an email from our friends over at FiiO (Thanks, James) with more information regarding their new amps, and this time I get the go-ahead to share them with all of you.

Here is the rendering of the new FiiO E1, an in-line amp for iPod. No production shot yet since FiiO has yet to make the final production model. It utilizes the power supply and line-out signal from iPod dock connection and incorporate an digital volume control as a remote. You can think of it as the union of E5 + LOD. The ETA is around end of August / early September. Not sure about the price yet.

user posted image

Here are some pre-production shot of FiiO E7, FiiO upcoming USB DAC + AMP, note that this is not the final look (but it probably won't be too far off). Battery life is expected to be >100hrs, The 5 sides of the housing are CNC'ed aluminum (with harden acrylic on the last). ETA is estimated at December (likely around X'mas like the E5). There will be a dock planned for later release, which will enable remote control function and two line-out (one variable and one not) in case you want to connect it to speaker or use the DAC function only. E7 will have a special dock connector for docking and there is also plan for further accessories development, which will allow connection to desktop amp, mini Hi-Fi set, speaker and such. E7's price is estimated to be lower than US$100.

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So, any thing else you want to know?
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM)
Here is how things work in DAP:

Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone.

DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound.

AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control).

In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones.

Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none).
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thanks CliesOS notworthy.gif , you summarized everything into one short fine post
the best post i've seen in headphile after reading for weeks
your explanation really does help me out a lot

I'm a beginner, and my budget is about 1k+ for headphone + dac + amp
still reading and trying to uderstand more

hope that the FiiO E7 is really worth getting
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ClieOs,

Any news on the confirmation date of the release of E7 yet?
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No, not much update lately.


Added on September 23, 2009, 2:44 pmSome update:

I'll be getting a fully functional final production E1 either by Friday or early next week. So here are some of the functions: Play/Pause, Next/Previous, Volume Up/Down, Fast Forward/Backward, Mute.

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hey guys, I'm using a Sony E436F paired with Shure I2Cs (based on the E2C).

the Fiio E5 looks mighty interesting, but I want to know will it give a significant improvement to my current setup? sometimes I feel my current setup lacks a little depth, not that I'm unhappy with it but yea, itchy backside only tongue.gif

would almost definitely get it if I know for sure it'll improve my quality. so would like to ask you guys for feedback and opinions smile.gif

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does the E436F have a Line Out? if it doesn't, the E5 (actually most other amps too) may not give so much of a difference, because it already got processed by the opamps inside the player itself before reaching the amp. maybe the bass boost would help, but all other aspects....
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hmm nope it doesn't, i use the headphone jack if i wanna hook it up to external speakers..
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i found out that E5 has effect on BA driver iem only, dynamic type iem is so so effect only. E3 is having better effect on the dynamic driver especially the bass.

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Some update:

A black edition E1 will be released on the next batch.

Here is the new rendering of E7: Along with some inner hardware changes and the face lift, the new casing is also slimmer than the previous prototype showed before.
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This is the proposed E9 prototype. Basically it is desktop amp with an iPod / FiiO dock integration. You can either 1) dock you iPod / iPhone on E9 and feed it the line-out, 2) dock the E7 and give E9 the USB DAC function (E7 will feed line level signal from E7 DAC directly back to E9 amp section). You can think of E7 as E9's DAC module. or 3) Feed E9 a line-in analog signal, just like most other desktop amp. E9 will also feature a better, newly design amp section that is different from E7. E9 is scheduled for early 2010.
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wow damn nice ID looks!!! cool! delicious...tempting to get E1 already since my new iphone 3Gs have good synergies with my UM MAGE...
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E1 is great.
Ipod nano 4G + E1 + Eterna kick my Fuze's + Eterna's butt.

It made the Eterna more musical!
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Hmm. For all the FiiO-using sifus here: I am planning to get a FiiO E5 amp because I just got a Beyerdynamics DT-231 and my lousy Samsung YP-U3 player can't drive the headphones well at all-- have to turn the player volume up to max to hear anything like decent volume, which seems to be screwing with sound quality from the player. Will having the E5 improve matters? Also, I bought a Sansa Clip+ already, but have to wait until next year to get it from my friend in US. Should I use the E5 with the Clip+, will I get better results as well? Thanks!
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E5 should be able to drive your DT-231 good enough and would synergy quite well with your sansa clip+ smile.gif


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Is anyone offering the E1 here?
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Which one sounds better, E1 or E5? Thanks. smile.gif
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Which one sounds better, E1 or E5? Thanks. smile.gif
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You can find e1 here...
stock just arrived only,but i m still wondering how well it works with my ipod nano 4th gen...probably will buy it this week and try it out

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...4152&hl=fiio+e1
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which one is better to go with iphone 3gs? currently im using ue metro.fi 200v..
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Hey guys, im using an ipod touch 3G with Shure SCL2. Does including a Fiio E5 make much difference to the sound quality/detail? or it only makes it louder?
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I read that those expensive headphone amps have very low impedances so that it can have higher damping factor for supposely better sq. Googling around gave me some infos like ipod's output impedance to be 5ohm. I read that as general rule load impedance should be 10 times more than the source impedance so that the amp have better control of the drivers. What I can conclude is that other than amplifying the sound to suitable listening volume, the amp can provide lower output impedances to improve sound quality especially on lower impedance earphones/headphones, is this correct?

What's the impedance output of the Fiio E5? Does the impedance output of this amp affected by the input impedance(since E5 have preamp and opamp inside)?
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i saw a booth selling fiio amps... at discovery week 1utama ( organized by mac city )

fiio e5 = RM99
fiio e1 = RM89
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RM99 is so expensive~

easily RM60-70 from the internet if you dont mind the wait whistling.gif
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well it's more expensive than lowyat... ^^ but juz letting lowyatians know the pricing before goin thr... ^^
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well... i saw AKG booth thr also... ^^
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well... yeah on the same rack...

but akg is really promoting the portable headphones ( K420 & 430 ) ^^ i tested them... i prefer K430's built over K420... but i liked K420's SQ over K430... ^^
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Tested the E1 at LowYat, really good but the white color does not goes with my black headphones' cable, looks really bad. According to the sales person, there are no other colors available except white cry.gif

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E7 shipping date depends on how fast FiiO can receive the PCM2706 USB receiver chip from Texas Instruments. It is TI slow shipping that delays the production, FiiO actually already has everything else finished and ready to go full production. Now FiiO is trying to source from other distributor enough chip to launch a small initial batch, but PCM2706 isn't something electronic suppliers usually stock in big number. The current estimation is still some time b/w later January to early Feb.
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QUOTE(wwei @ Dec 31 2009, 12:08 PM)
Tested the E1 at LowYat, really good but the white color does not goes with my black headphones' cable, looks really bad.  According to the sales person, there are no other colors available except white  cry.gif
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I'm E5 owner here. nice to meet you all guys.
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I'm E5 owner here. nice to meet you all guys.
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jan 1 2010, 02:50 AM)
custom ur lod to make it a lil bit short and u'll be fine.... so how does it sound?
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Finally, I can found some difference after I put Apple Lossless songs into my iPod. I don't know how to describe. When I plug with my 3.5mm line out cable, the E5 makes all the sound mix togather. But after I change to LOD cable, the sound become better when I play the lossless audio. However, the lossless audio are even worse than mp3 audio if I plug my E5 with a regular 3.5mm line out cable. Thats mean, the LOD cable did some improvement on lossless audio but not so much on mp3 audio.

Now even I can listen the higher sound quality music with my ipod. its ok, i will keep the lod cable at this length because the cable is order from UK. I can clip the E5 on my clothes.


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d E1 in black should b in both MacStudio in LYP & BSC by nxt wk  drool.gif


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use d E1 & u'll save d mess wif so many cables  smile.gif
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the cables are okay for me. Lod+E5 becomes more flexible because I will change to another head amp later.

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been using Fiio E3 for a while now but at the same time scouring the sales/bulk/audiophile for alternative amps from Fiio (or not). biggrin.gif
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though decision ahead. pheww~
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What is the difference between the E1 and E5?  Which one should I buy?
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I have got my iBasso D2+ Boa today. However, that amp is too big and its only does improve on the fidelity but I can't listen much on bass. Most of my songs are delivering too much of fidelity and make me so tired to listen on it. Besides, my iPod was also set an EQ at Electronic.

I'm still prefer to my E5 because I am usually listening to korean dance-pop songs which are more depending on the bass side. Besides, my E5 is good enough for listening dance music. Since I does not need much on high frequency but I need much on low frequency.
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QUOTE(soulone @ Jan 7 2010, 12:21 AM)
been using Fiio E3 for a while now but at the same time scouring the sales/bulk/audiophile for alternative amps from Fiio (or not).  biggrin.gif
managed to get a clearer and better picture from reading this thread tho'. thx guys.

though decision ahead. pheww~
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update : gotten myself a used E5. loving the USB charging and overall improvement on the on/off switch and other parts of it over my current E3.

However, thinking about wether getting a Sansa Clip+ or Ipod Touch. If decided with Ipod Touch, maybe will try to find E1 for it too! *goes and saves money* laugh.gif


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I have got my iBasso D2+ Boa today. However, that amp is too big and its only does improve on the fidelity but I can't listen much on bass. Most of my songs are delivering too much of fidelity and make me so tired to listen on it. Besides, my iPod was also set an EQ at Electronic.

I'm still prefer to my E5 because I am usually listening to korean dance-pop songs which are more depending on the bass side. Besides, my E5 is good enough for listening dance music. Since I does not need much on high frequency but I need much on low frequency.
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woah, you prefer ur E5 from your iBasso D2+ Boa ? would love to test iBasso someday too. goodluck with ur E5, i know i'm loving mine. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(junclj @ Jan 7 2010, 05:30 PM)
I have got my iBasso D2+ Boa today. However, that amp is too big and its only does improve on the fidelity but I can't listen much on bass. Most of my songs are delivering too much of fidelity and make me so tired to listen on it. Besides, my iPod was also set an EQ at Electronic.

I'm still prefer to my E5 because I am usually listening to korean dance-pop songs which are more depending on the bass side. Besides, my E5 is good enough for listening dance music. Since I does not need much on high frequency but I need much on low frequency.
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It's best you turn off the Ipod's EQ as the EQ will distort sound and make it sound very "harsh"

This happens because all Ipods do not have an advance limited/pre-amp function to control the initial amplitude of the sounds...

In short, if you use an Ipod, dont use the EQ that comes with it...
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is the e7 out yet?
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from pics damn cun, can't wait to see final version.
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what the hell wrong for my E5 clip ... just clip on my cloth suddenly the screw dropping off and the clip cannot be used .... very unhappy for such problem mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

tyring to use the screw driver lock it back but no matter how fcking hard I used is meaningless what a bad day cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ Jan 12 2010, 12:00 AM)
what the hell wrong for my E5 clip ... just clip on my cloth suddenly the screw dropping off and the clip cannot be used .... very unhappy for such problem  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

tyring to use the screw driver lock it back but no matter how fcking hard I used is meaningless what a bad day  cry.gif  cry.gif
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aisyeh... chill down...

just screw them back tightly... problem settle.... the clip is a bit fragile thou but after i tighten nicely... the problem never occurs anymore...
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aisyeh... chill down...

just screw them back tightly... problem settle.... the clip is a bit fragile thou but after i tighten nicely... the problem never occurs anymore...
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the most weirdest thing is I cannot tighthen even I use the micro screw driver .... I dunno why it cannot lock it back too weird .... I try a few hours just to locking such clip but still I cannot do nothing ...... even this cannot be claim warranty also sad.gif mad.gif icon_question.gif cry.gif
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Weird....i'm a E5 user myself and i've been using it for almost a year now, i didn't suffer from falling screw like wingster problem even i use it quite rough when traveling sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ Jan 12 2010, 12:00 AM)
what the hell wrong for my E5 clip ... just clip on my cloth suddenly the screw dropping off and the clip cannot be used .... very unhappy for such problem  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

tyring to use the screw driver lock it back but no matter how fcking hard I used is meaningless what a bad day  cry.gif  cry.gif
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have both E3 and E5, albeit just started using, i have been using it quite constantly and bringing it to all kind of places, seems ok to me ...

hurms, is it the screw for the clip part ? the small screw is it ?
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Yea ...the small screw ...

Looks kinda like manufacture problem because I NOT EVEN DROP IT just clip on my cloth WITHOUT any abuse then the screw loose and drop in 1 hour......... really unimagine

and yea I understand that this will not claimed by warranty because they can said I DROP THE AMP ON THE GROUND AND MIRICALLY CAUSE THE CLIP CANNOT BE USED AND THE SCREW CANNOT BE SCREW LOCKED!!!

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QUOTE(wingster @ Jan 12 2010, 07:47 PM)
Yea ...the small screw ...

Looks kinda like manufacture problem because I NOT EVEN DROP IT just clip on my cloth WITHOUT any abuse then the screw loose and drop in 1 hour......... really unimagine

and yea I understand that this will not claimed by warranty because they can said I DROP THE AMP ON THE GROUND AND MIRICALLY CAUSE THE CLIP CANNOT BE USED AND THE SCREW CANNOT BE SCREW LOCKED!!!
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hope you get ur situation sorted out wingster

noticed ur WTB thread .. goodluck! smile.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ Jan 12 2010, 07:47 PM)
Yea ...the small screw ...

Looks kinda like manufacture problem because I NOT EVEN DROP IT just clip on my cloth WITHOUT any abuse then the screw loose and drop in 1 hour......... really unimagine

and yea I understand that this will not claimed by warranty because they can said I DROP THE AMP ON THE GROUND AND MIRICALLY CAUSE THE CLIP CANNOT BE USED AND THE SCREW CANNOT BE SCREW LOCKED!!!
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if you use the normal mode, you will lose the bass that's below 100Hz. it's as much as -1dB at 30Hz sad.gif
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QUOTE(akgmalaysia @ Jan 18 2010, 11:18 PM)
wats ur source?
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Dear gurus, Is it advisable to pair Fiio E1 with MV SP1 and iPhone 3GS?

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E5 will improve a bit for your bass i think. However, maybe you can try to burn-in the amp for 300hrs. See whether there have improvement for the sound quality.
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will the e5 improve the volume of PL-30 without degrading music quality?

i need to push my sansa clip plus+ to about 70% volume in order to get it to the volume i want and that is quite a heavy load for the battery... thinking of getting the e5, any advise on that?
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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Jan 10 2010, 06:57 AM)
It's best you turn off the Ipod's EQ as the EQ will distort sound and make it sound very "harsh"

This happens because all Ipods do not have an advance limited/pre-amp function to control the initial amplitude of the sounds...

In short, if you use an Ipod, dont use the EQ that comes with it...
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tq for your comments, I was switch to another EQ -> Hip-hop. Now the sound for my D2+ is getting better than E5 after I burn-in for more than 100hrs. I will still continue to burn-in my D2+ to get a better SQ.

However, the first day when I get my D2+, my first impression is really disappointed during that moments because its delivering a weak bass and too much of high frequencies. Now it is getting better than my E5 already. The bass already came back to its position and it is getting more elastic with not too boomy. The high frequencies are getting more details. The mid frequency which is the vocal really deliver a very good sound. The overall low-mid-high is quite balance.
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QUOTE(toytoy @ Jan 19 2010, 02:25 PM)
Dear gurus, Is it advisable to pair Fiio E1 with MV SP1 and iPhone 3GS?

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try it out 4 urself @ MacStudio in both LYP & BSC flex.gif


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will the e5 improve the volume of PL-30 without degrading music quality?

i need to push my sansa clip plus+ to about 70% volume in order to get it to the volume i want and that is quite a heavy load for the battery... thinking of getting the e5, any advise on that?
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again, try it out 4 urself @ MacStudio in both LYP & BSC flex.gif


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will the e5 improve the volume of PL-30 without degrading music quality?

i need to push my sansa clip plus+ to about 70% volume in order to get it to the volume i want and that is quite a heavy load for the battery... thinking of getting the e5, any advise on that?
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again & again ... try it out 4 urself @ MacStudio in both LYP & BSC flex.gif



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QUOTE(akgmalaysia @ Jan 20 2010, 07:30 AM)
try it out 4 urself @ MacStudio in both LYP & BSC  flex.gif


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again, try it out 4 urself @ MacStudio in both LYP & BSC  flex.gif


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again & again ... try it out 4 urself @ MacStudio in both LYP & BSC  flex.gif
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akgmalaysia... u work there?
i plan on goin nex week.. how much does an E1 or E5 cost there?
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personally i didnt get much from the e5 except for the bloated bass(if turn the bass on)
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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Jan 20 2010, 12:05 PM)
akgmalaysia... u work there?
i plan on goin nex week.. how much does an E1 or E5 cost there?
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E1 RRP RM89 E5 RRP RM99 tongue.gif


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personally i didnt get much from the e5 except for the bloated bass(if turn the bass on)
intend to try the e1. hope will not sound like the e5
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assuming u r using ipod / iphone, u'll def hear d diff tongue.gif

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E1 RRP RM89 E5 RRP RM99  tongue.gif


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assuming u r using ipod / iphone, u'll def hear d diff  tongue.gif
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oh thx for quoting the price... the E1 is powered by ipod? if so will it drain the ipod battery fast? or it has its own rechargeable battery?
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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Jan 20 2010, 01:57 PM)
oh thx for quoting the price... the E1 is powered by ipod? if so will it drain the ipod battery fast? or it has its own rechargeable battery?
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Here is a review on the E1 on Head-Fi.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f105/pictori...fiio-e1-448364/

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sory,im a noob here blush.gif

hmm.gif wat do u mean by 'burn-in' ha? more than 100 hrs...? unsure.gif

btw,i own 1 E5 thumbup.gif rclxms.gif cool.gif


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QUOTE(camrycilver @ Feb 1 2010, 10:19 PM)
sory,im a noob here blush.gif

hmm.gif wat do u mean by 'burn-in' ha? more than 100 hrs...? unsure.gif

btw,i own 1 E5  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  cool.gif
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i'm same like you a noob before. I am also dunno what mean by "burn-in" before.
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QUOTE(junclj @ Feb 2 2010, 10:37 PM)
i'm same like you a noob before. I am also dunno what mean by "burn-in" before.
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process to let ur audio equipment "settles in"?

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QUOTE(soulone @ Feb 3 2010, 05:35 PM)
process to let ur audio equipment "settles in"?

anyway, more info here
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bt does it realy works...? 100/200 hrs is kinda long time rite? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(camrycilver @ Feb 3 2010, 07:35 PM)
ohh,i c...thanx 4 d info bro...! thumbup.gif

bt does it realy works...? 100/200 hrs is kinda long time rite? sweat.gif

does any1 has 'burn-in' their headphones alredy? rolleyes.gif

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keep ur vol btwn low & mid, jz leave it thr 2 play  tongue.gif

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Using MV SP1 with Fiio E1 and ipod nano don't really hear much of a difference but the difference is minimally there i feel but nice amp anyway smile.gif
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Using MV SP1 with Fiio E1 and ipod nano don't really hear much of a difference but the difference is minimally there i feel but nice amp anyway smile.gif
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I'm playing most of my songs in apple lossless format in my ipod shuffle using the stock Earphone. I'm planning on changing the headphone to KSC75.
Will it be any difference if I used fiio amp with it? Is the difference marginal?
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I'm playing most of my songs in apple lossless format in my ipod shuffle using the stock Earphone. I'm planning on changing the headphone to KSC75.
Will it be any difference if I used fiio amp with it? Is the difference marginal?
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Does E1 really make iPod nano sounds amazing?Will it produce better sound than those Sony Walkman??
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but the playback quality differs a lot....
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well,just wanna share.im using klipsch custom 3 and pairing with E1 doesnt give any changes sweat.gif .as far as my ear can listen,there is only little,very little improvement.while pairing with e3 is like taking my iem another level higher.maybe this is due to compatibility. maybe my klipsch doesn't sync well with E1 but do great with E3.now itchy to try E5 brows.gif
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Thanks for info... How about E1 pair with some other IEMs? smile.gif

QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Feb 24 2010, 10:51 AM)
well,just wanna share.im using klipsch custom 3 and pairing with E1 doesnt give any changes sweat.gif .as far as my ear can listen,there is only little,very little improvement.while pairing with e3 is like taking my iem another level higher.maybe this is due to compatibility. maybe my klipsch doesn't sync well with E1 but do great with E3.now itchy to try E5 brows.gif
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well,i tried with my audio technica A900 headphone,also not much difference.while E3 just make the bass more boomy.

to be honest,i start to think that E1 is somewhat............... useless.maybe its just me.maybe its just my audio gadget.coz E3 seems like more "functional".

and i dislike how it change my ipod navigation.where all the control are gone.and i only can next/back/increase volume/decrease volume by using the control on E1.while even my ipod touch's volume button also inactive after using E1
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Feb 24 2010, 10:51 AM)
well,just wanna share.im using klipsch custom 3 and pairing with E1 doesnt give any changes sweat.gif .as far as my ear can listen,there is only little,very little improvement.while pairing with e3 is like taking my iem another level higher.maybe this is due to compatibility. maybe my klipsch doesn't sync well with E1 but do great with E3.now itchy to try E5 brows.gif
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What E3 does is adding a lot of bass and warm to the music, but also take away quite a bit of treble and detail. It fair well on analytical headphone cause it makes it more musical, especially if you are not an analytical listener. If you are, E3 isn't going to be of any help. If you already have bass heavy headphone that are not very analytical, E3 will do more harm than help.

E5 is better in the sense that you get to choose whether you want the bass boost on or not, and of course it also has a much better internal than E3 so it is an overall improvement at such a small price. The down side is of course it is a warm amp even when the bass boost is off. The ideal situation of amping is 'wire with gain' - that is, you want more power and control with as little coloration as possible from the amp. I often find people thinking coloration of portable amp as an improvement. Personally, I would think it is more of a preference rather than an improvement, like people preferring EQ to add more spice to the music but it doesn't actually add more quality to the music nor adding any more power or control.

E1 is what I consider to be the better of the three. It does what an amp is suppose to do, add more power and control without adding much of its own character. That is what people refer as being 'transparent' - it is there to do its job but has minimum impact to the sound signature. I would think if you can't feel any change from adding E1 to an iPod, it is either 1) your headphone doesn't benefit much from the extra power and control, 2) your headphone isn't good enough to reveal the difference, 3) you are unable to detect the change even it is there, 4) you don't think the change is that significant, or 5) combination of any of the first 4 factors.

You should know that, amping is not some magic trick that can turn water to wine. More than often it is a refine of sound rather than an significant improvement. The very real fact is, a $1000 portable might only be 3% to 5% better than a $500 amp. In the audio world, price usually doesn't linear to performance increment. The benefit of an amp is often not in-plain-sight unless you have the time to discover it. It is often easier for those who has the experience to notice the difference which can very well be nothing to another person, as it takes time to train the ears to pick up micro detail. Even for an experienced person, what constitutes as 'significant' is still very much a personal judgment. At the end, it can be that you don't need an amp at all, or perhaps what you want is a much better amp. It is an process of trial and error to find what suits your taste and the synergy of your rig.

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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Feb 24 2010, 05:33 PM)
Thanks for info... How about E1 pair with some other IEMs? smile.gif
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bring ur own source & ask 4 a demo fr Willie @ MacStudio / LowYat Plaza or Justin @ MacStudio / Bangsar Shopping Centre or any sales staff @ MyBytes / Tropicana City Mall
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Other than RE0... what phones E1 synergise with?
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Feb 24 2010, 07:49 PM)
then u'll need 2 based ur decision on ClieOS' review above ... hes a respected sifu here in LYN as well as HeadFi  blush.gif
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imo E5 makes some phones sound worst, better try first. smile.gif

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Feb 24 2010, 06:16 PM)
What E3 does is adding a lot of bass and warm to the music, but also take away quite a bit of treble and detail. It fair well on analytical headphone cause it makes it more musical, especially if you are not an analytical listener. If you are, E3 isn't going to be of any help. If you already have bass heavy headphone that are not very analytical, E3 will do more harm than help.

E5 is better in the sense that you get to choose whether you want the bass boost on or not, and of course it also has a much better internal than E3 so it is an overall improvement at such a small price. The down side is of course it is a warm amp even when the bass boost is off. The ideal situation of amping is 'wire with gain' - that is, you want more power and control with as little coloration as possible from the amp. I often find people thinking coloration of portable amp as an improvement. Personally, I would think it is more of a preference rather than an improvement, like people preferring EQ to add more spice to the music but it doesn't actually add more quality to the music nor adding any more power or control.

E1 is what I consider to be the better of the three. It does what an amp is suppose to do, add more power and control without adding much of its own character. That is what people refer as being 'transparent' - it is there to do its job but has minimum impact to the sound signature. I would think if you can't feel any change from adding E1 to an iPod, it is either 1) your headphone doesn't benefit much from the extra power and control, 2) your headphone isn't good enough to reveal the difference, 3) you are unable to detect the change even it is there, 4) you don't think the change is that significant, or 5) combination of any of the first 4 factors.

You should know that, amping is not some magic trick that can turn water to wine. More than often it is a refine of sound rather than an significant improvement. The very real fact is, a $1000 portable might only be 3% to 5% better than a $500 amp. In the audio world, price usually doesn't linear to performance increment. The benefit of an amp is often not in-plain-sight unless you have the time to discover it. It is often easier for those who has the experience to notice the difference which can very well be nothing to another person, as it takes time to train the ears to pick up micro detail. Even for an experienced person, what constitutes as 'significant' is still very much a personal judgment. At the end, it can be that you don't need an amp at all, or perhaps what you want is a much better amp. It is an process of trial and error to find what suits your taste and the synergy of your rig.
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Feb 24 2010, 05:53 PM)
well,i tried with my audio technica A900 headphone,also not much difference.while E3 just make the bass more boomy.

to be honest,i start to think that E1 is somewhat............... useless.maybe its just me.maybe its just my audio gadget.coz E3 seems like more "functional".

and i dislike how it change my ipod navigation.where all the control are gone.and i only can next/back/increase volume/decrease volume by using the control on E1.while even my ipod touch's volume button also inactive after using E1
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well,its quite troublesome as the button on e1 cant be lock,and they pretty sensitive,so its easy to accidentally pressed it.
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hi all pro...may i know that is ultimate ears metrofi 220 work well with fiio e5??..anyone in here try be4??..tq
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hi all pro...may i know that is ultimate ears metrofi 220 work well with fiio e5??..anyone in here try be4??..tq
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ipods are not exactly a good source.
Decent but not really that fantastic.

I'd prefer the E5 because of the versatility of the ICs used and the charging + bass boost option - i keep mine off most of the time, actually all the time.
So far stock the stock IC is down right shit but then again its a beginner's amp.

You pay for what you get, so if you're looking to upgrade the IC just move on to a decent amp.

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QUOTE(weib @ Mar 2 2010, 06:30 PM)
ipods are not exactly a good source.
Decent but not really that fantastic.

I'd prefer the E5 because of the versatility of the ICs used and the charging + bass boost option - i keep mine off most of the time, actually all the time.
So far stock the stock IC is down right shit but then again its a beginner's amp.

You pay for what you get, so if you're looking to upgrade the IC just move on to a decent amp.
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hi guys.. im currently using Fiio E5 with my bijou 3. both popular with their bass level. im not really satisfy with the bass bijou 3 can pump initially. then bought a E5 to boost it further.

what i can say it like about 5% increase in bass boost for me. my ear din detect anything comfortable, still feel the light bass only.

anyway, heard again. E5 3.5mm to 3.5mm doesnt really that good. and i can notice hissing sound in background all the time. so would like to ask that, any pro can test my bijou 3 n E5 is it really that low bass compared to urs.. or even better i would like to try to change the default 3.5mm to 3.5mm connector to a better cable.

anyone can help me on this?


Added on March 14, 2010, 2:52 amn oops, i only got xperia x1 as my music source. mayb thats the major problem. but hope my setup can try to decrease background noise.

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QUOTE(rkwan67 @ Mar 14 2010, 02:51 AM)
hi guys.. im currently using Fiio E5 with my bijou 3. both popular with their bass level. im not really satisfy with the bass bijou 3 can pump initially. then bought a E5 to boost it further.

what i can say it like about 5% increase in bass boost for me. my ear din detect anything comfortable, still feel the light bass only.

anyway, heard again. E5 3.5mm to 3.5mm doesnt really that good. and i can notice hissing sound in background all the time. so would like to ask that, any pro can test my bijou 3 n E5 is it really that low bass compared to urs.. or even better i would like to try to change the default 3.5mm to 3.5mm connector to a better cable.

anyone can help me on this?


Added on March 14, 2010, 2:52 amn oops, i only got xperia x1 as my music source. mayb thats the major problem. but hope my setup can try to decrease background noise.
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i went to tropicana mall hoping to listen to e7's demo... but it's not available...

oh well.. at least i got to listen to e5 & e1... but both amps are still not my type...
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@moniquee you should give david a call first . David still can remember me .. ?I am the 1 talked to you about e7 and k701 in the apple exhibition at saturday night .
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d E5 is a reali low noise amp, unless ur source is noisy.
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Mar 14 2010, 09:09 PM)
i went to tropicana mall hoping to listen to e7's demo... but it's not available...

oh well.. at least i got to listen to e5 & e1... but both amps are still not my type...
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@moniquee you should give david a call first . David still can remember me ..  ?I am the 1 talked to you about e7 and k701 in the apple exhibition at saturday night .
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Hi,anyone know where can i get E1 in singapore?
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post Mar 17 2010, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Here-I-Come @ Mar 16 2010, 10:07 PM)
Hi,anyone know where can i get E1 in singapore?
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can send 2 sgp jz 4 u tongue.gif
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post Mar 17 2010, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 14 2010, 11:02 PM)
I tried E5 before as well, the hissing prob is there no doubt, regardless of what PMP you're using.
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Mine is the complete opposite, no hissing regardless what PMP i use.

EXCEPT the ipod shuffle 2nd gen. Others like Sansa Clip, Cowon & Sony X-Series no problem...
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Mar 14 2010, 11:17 PM)
aiyoh ... txt me 1st mah ... my staff thr cant handle audio experts tats y its not wif them  blink.gif


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yes ... nice spkg wif u, so d k701  drool.gif
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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Mar 17 2010, 07:22 PM)
Mine is the complete opposite, no hissing regardless what PMP i use.

EXCEPT the ipod shuffle 2nd gen. Others like Sansa Clip, Cowon & Sony X-Series no problem...
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What IEM are you using when you're testing the E5? I've nvr tried the Sansa and Cowon, but the Sony X series itself, even without amping, the hissing prob is so prominent ady xD
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post Mar 18 2010, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 18 2010, 12:24 AM)
What IEM are you using when you're testing the E5? I've nvr tried the Sansa and Cowon, but the Sony X series itself, even without amping, the hissing prob is so prominent ady xD
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post Mar 18 2010, 08:17 AM

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Any news on Fiio E7 when it's going to be in and the price?
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post Mar 18 2010, 08:28 AM

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If a 4-component-setup (file + player + amp + headphones) hisses... and when change one of the component and no more hiss... is this means that particular component cannot synnergise well within the setup? smile.gif

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so its not d fault of d e5  nod.gif
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post Mar 18 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 18 2010, 08:17 AM)
Any news on Fiio E7 when it's going to be in and the price?
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Late April or early May, and this time it should be on time. Price is around US$85, more or less.
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post Mar 18 2010, 12:58 PM

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well ... it's nice pricing... but still wanna try it out since for me... e5,e1 already disappointed me.
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Mar 18 2010, 12:58 PM)
well ... it's nice pricing... but still wanna try it out since for me... e5,e1 already disappointed me.
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4 tat kind of $, d e1 & e5 is relatively amazing liao flex.gif ... txt me wen u plan 2 come 2 twn, then can hav coffee & e7 ...
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lol... no need coffee... give me super duper deal on the e7...

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post Mar 18 2010, 05:28 PM

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Any local store got E7 to try? smile.gif
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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 18 2010, 05:28 PM)
Any local store got E7 to try? smile.gif
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there are currently onli 2 uts in msia, 1 wif ClieOS somewhr in Johore d other wif me in Bkt Bintang ... wil b in stores hopefully by end-apr nod.gif
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Mar 17 2010, 06:36 PM)
can send 2 sgp jz 4 u  tongue.gif
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cool cool2.gif but i am not sure what time i am free,so it will be a little difficult to arrange a cod~

Anyway,is there any shop that sell E1?
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post Mar 18 2010, 07:50 PM

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E1 ar? ALOT... ^^ most apple store in msia got carry i believe...
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post Mar 18 2010, 08:04 PM

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Is there any test sample for Fiio E1 in MacStudio Plaza LY I wonder?
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post Mar 18 2010, 08:49 PM

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i think got kua... since it's been released in msia since last year...
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post Mar 18 2010, 08:55 PM

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I need confirmation, I know they did sell them but din see the sample unit around.
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Is there any possibily that it will sell in machine in JB?I can't seem to found any shop selling it at sg tongue.gif
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 18 2010, 08:04 PM)
Is there any test sample for Fiio E1 in MacStudio Plaza LY I wonder?
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ask willie @ macstudio lyp let u test ...


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QUOTE(Here-I-Come @ Mar 18 2010, 10:47 PM)
Is  there any possibily that it will sell in machine in JB?I can't seem to found any shop selling it at sg tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2010, 08:50 AM

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Alrite thxs bro, will ask for a demo if I happen to drop by smile.gif
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QUOTE(Here-I-Come @ Mar 18 2010, 10:47 PM)
Is  there any possibily that it will sell in machine in JB?I can't seem to found any shop selling it at sg tongue.gif
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so hows d e1 hmm.gif


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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 20 2010, 08:50 AM)
Alrite thxs bro, will ask for a demo if I happen to drop by smile.gif
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did u mnge 2 chkout d e1 hmm.gif

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post Mar 22 2010, 05:51 AM

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Nope, went there in a rush yesterday. Will see whether I can make it there next week, will post my opinion here if I get to try it smile.gif
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post Mar 22 2010, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 18 2010, 08:55 PM)
I need confirmation, I know they did sell them but din see the sample unit around.
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actually i have quite alot of unit of E1 with me. You can meet me up for testing if u wan biggrin.gif

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post Mar 22 2010, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ Mar 22 2010, 09:20 AM)
actually i have quite alot of unit of E1 with me. You can meet me up for testing if u wan biggrin.gif
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testing in yuheng's place = exposure to all the good stuffs also tongue.gif
if fiio not your taste....can try ibasso....linerossa....secret....and all the iem's also tongue.gif
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During the weekend, I tested an E1 demo unit at shop with both iPhone 3GS and iPod 30GB Video White (5th Gen) for a short while. I can hear the obvious sonic improvement with the already very good iPhone but got some problem with iPod 5G. Is there any known compatibility issue with iPod 5G? Thanks.
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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 22 2010, 01:33 PM)
During the weekend, I tested an E1 demo unit at shop with both iPhone 3GS and iPod 30GB Video White (5th Gen) for a short while. I can hear the obvious sonic improvement with the already very good iPhone but got some problem with iPod 5G. Is there any known compatibility issue with iPod 5G? Thanks.
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got the same problem...for ipod 5.5gen as well... i guess it's only for ipod classic / nano 4g and above / etc
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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 22 2010, 01:33 PM)
During the weekend, I tested an E1 demo unit at shop with both iPhone 3GS and iPod 30GB Video White (5th Gen) for a short while. I can hear the obvious sonic improvement with the already very good iPhone but got some problem with iPod 5G. Is there any known compatibility issue with iPod 5G? Thanks.
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were u listeng 2 d same track wif d exactly d same file hmm.gif
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Yes sir, ceteris paribus.

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were u listeng 2 d same track wif d exactly d same file  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 22 2010, 07:06 PM)
Yes sir, ceteris paribus.
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WHAAAAA ??? CETERIS PARIBUS ???

u Econ student a ?

man .. that sentence really takes me back ..

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QUOTE(duh2k @ Mar 22 2010, 10:56 AM)
testing in yuheng's place = exposure to all the good stuffs also tongue.gif
if fiio not your taste....can try ibasso....linerossa....secret....and all the iem's also tongue.gif
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later wanna upgrade source will be testin some dac..
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Hi guys, i've received my E1 on last Friday. I've written a review for it in my blog.

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Of course it can't compare to ClieOS review.. tongue.gif
Just a small thought after few days of using it.

For my review, please click here
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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 22 2010, 07:06 PM)
Yes sir, ceteris paribus.
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d e1 by passes all pre-amp, iphone included, takes d digital signal directly, thr4 shouldnt hav any diff fr 1 ipod 2 another ... whc dealer did u tried it out @ hmm.gif
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i tried at tropicana macbyte opening day... i got the same problem as shadowshine where it doesnt work for older ipod model...
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Mar 23 2010, 08:44 PM)
i tried at tropicana macbyte opening day... i got the same problem as shadowshine where it doesnt work for older ipod model...
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Tried @ the same shop... d sq great on 3gs... has volume control issue on 5g. smile.gif
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how would it sound if i combine E1 + E5?? lol..
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QUOTE(yuheng @ Mar 22 2010, 09:20 AM)
actually i have quite alot of unit of E1 with me. You can meet me up for testing if u wan biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Here-I-Come @ Mar 24 2010, 11:08 PM)
how would it sound if i combine E1 + E5??  lol..
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e1 + e5 hmm.gif a bit messy if u r out & abt ... sq wise, vry loud cool.gif
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New owner of Fiio E5.
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QUOTE(alankhoo @ May 17 2010, 11:29 PM)
New owner of Fiio E5.
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e7 can be double as a soundcard as well??
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ May 18 2010, 07:22 PM)
e7 is coming  drool.gif
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Took so long for the E7 to come here, has been expecting it for months ady.
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QUOTE(jammerlee711 @ May 19 2010, 03:09 AM)
e7 can be double as a soundcard as well??
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its a usb / dac external sound card as well rclxms.gif


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Took so long for the E7 to come here, has been expecting it for months ady.
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Hi friends, I have an E5 and was just wondering whether it could serve as a volume controller for my speakers (AE AegoM)
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QUOTE(jiggly_head @ Jun 5 2010, 03:29 PM)
Hi friends, I have an E5 and was just wondering whether it could serve as a volume controller for my speakers (AE AegoM)
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laugh.gif im not sure...(if 4 headphones ok la... nod.gif )
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QUOTE(jiggly_head @ Jun 5 2010, 03:29 PM)
Hi friends, I have an E5 and was just wondering whether it could serve as a volume controller for my speakers (AE AegoM)
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ur source hmm.gif

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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jun 6 2010, 12:55 AM)
ur source  hmm.gif
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direct from soundcard as in.

Soundcard>E5>Ae Aego M

reason is the only volume control is at the sub box. i would have to use windows internal volume control if i want to control volume without reaching below the table. It also gets troublesome when im using multiple sound cards. As in playing music on the secondary sound card.


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QUOTE(jiggly_head @ Jun 6 2010, 01:50 AM)
direct from soundcard as in.

Soundcard>E5>Ae Aego M

reason is the only volume control is at the sub box. i would have to use windows internal volume control if i want to control volume without reaching below the table. It also gets troublesome when im using multiple sound cards. As in playing music on the secondary sound card.
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yes u can use d e5 tat way but did find d connection a lil cumbersome ... u'll need d audio fr d soundcard > e5 > spkrs & d pwr fr usb > e5 ... lots of messy cables ... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jun 6 2010, 09:29 AM)
yes u can use d e5 tat way but did find d connection a lil cumbersome ... u'll need d audio fr d soundcard > e5 > spkrs & d pwr fr usb > e5 ... lots of messy cables ...  rclxub.gif
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I will test it out. Regarding the cables, it will blend in into the many cables that i already have lol.
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wonder any1 got compare between fiio e7 with fireye I amp... the design fiio e7 make my eyes drop out
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QUOTE(danieltan @ Jun 7 2010, 11:39 PM)
wonder any1 got compare between fiio e7 with fireye I amp... the design fiio e7 make my eyes drop out
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its better 2 post ur question over here ... http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1318805 ...

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QUOTE(danieltan @ Jun 7 2010, 11:39 PM)
wonder any1 got compare between fiio e7 with fireye I amp... the design fiio e7 make my eyes drop out
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The closest compatible in terms of performance should be the Fireye II instead of the I. In form, the E7 makes the Fireye looks crude. In controls, again the E7 makes the Fireye looks ancient.
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hye ALL...im really new to audiophiles..before this just use my creative zen n oem earphones..just got ifrogz in earphone from my sister..n wanting to strt using amps..izzit helpful for me if use this amp..e5 or e3 better...huhu...n i dunno how to diff sounds u guys say warm lah independence low lah ape..really noob in any audiophile terms..so any suggestion
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Oct 11 2010, 06:56 PM)
hye ALL...im really new to audiophiles..before this just use my creative zen n oem earphones..just got ifrogz in earphone from my sister..n wanting to strt using amps..izzit helpful for me if use this amp..e5 or e3 better...huhu...n i dunno how to diff sounds u guys say warm lah independence low lah ape..really noob in any audiophile terms..so any suggestion
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Oct 11 2010, 06:56 PM)
hye ALL...im really new to audiophiles..before this just use my creative zen n oem earphones..just got ifrogz in earphone from my sister..n wanting to strt using amps..izzit helpful for me if use this amp..e5 or e3 better...huhu...n i dunno how to diff sounds u guys say warm lah independence low lah ape..really noob in any audiophile terms..so any suggestion
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Oct 11 2010, 06:56 PM)
hye ALL...im really new to audiophiles..before this just use my creative zen n oem earphones..just got ifrogz in earphone from my sister..n wanting to strt using amps..izzit helpful for me if use this amp..e5 or e3 better...huhu...n i dunno how to diff sounds u guys say warm lah independence low lah ape..really noob in any audiophile terms..so any suggestion
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Go to Jaben thumbup.gif
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you go there then you'll understand icon_rolleyes.gif
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just ordered e5 from forumeer here..heheh..cant wait..im using shp2700 impendence 32 ohm and sensitivity 103dB..would it help if use dis e5..n i have baught custom 3.5-3.5 cable instead of stock e5 cable smile.gif
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Oct 19 2010, 06:43 AM)
just ordered e5 from forumeer here..heheh..cant wait..im using shp2700  impendence 32 ohm and sensitivity 103dB..would it help if use dis e5..n i have baught custom 3.5-3.5 cable instead of stock e5 cable smile.gif
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Just imagine if you were blind, and you have a disability to look how an ipod looks like, then it would be irrelevant to buy an ipod just because it looks cool according to the salesman or your friend right? So if you were blind and unable to read the specs or see the aesthetics, the only reason you would buy a mp3 player or Ipod is because how does it sound...Trust me when I say, blind people usually have better listening ears than the average perfect vision..

Test the equipment, because without listening for yourself, all you can see is only numbers, and fancy words such as warm, high, muddy, aggressive, bloated, and many more jargons which doesn't really tell your ears what you really need to hear.... nod.gif
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Seem like somebody dig this thread from 6 feet under. hehe. E3 user in here.

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thnx everyone smile.gif now waiting for my e5 to arrive ..hehhe...but i listen to my headpone..bass is good ..but one more question....hehe..my mp3 creative zen mozaic..i use this headphone shp2700..must put volume 13 oni then cn listen well as in loud..if 10 or 11 seems to fade with the background noise.y eh..
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Oct 19 2010, 01:54 PM)
thnx everyone smile.gif now waiting for my e5 to arrive ..hehhe...but i listen to my headpone..bass is good ..but one more question....hehe..my mp3 creative zen mozaic..i use this headphone shp2700..must put volume 13 oni then cn listen well as in loud..if 10 or 11 seems to fade with the background noise.y eh..
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hehe..item reach dy today but i wasnt around so have to go collect tmrw morning at poslaju..d item came in morning...just got back from poslaju..they say d posman nt come back yet..so tmrw morning...huhuhuhu...cant waaiiitt ..


Added on October 21, 2010, 8:20 amdoes dis fii0 nid to burn in oso:"? if yes then how? play use mp3+ earphone + fiio all low volume let it play iizzt?

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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Oct 20 2010, 05:17 PM)
hehe..item reach dy today but i wasnt around so have to go collect tmrw morning at poslaju..d item came in morning...just got back from poslaju..they say d posman nt come back yet..so tmrw morning...huhuhuhu...cant waaiiitt ..


Added on October 21, 2010, 8:20 amdoes dis fii0 nid to burn in oso:"? if yes then how? play use mp3+ earphone + fiio  all low volume let it play iizzt?
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Yes, you have to burn in too to reach its max performance. Burn in like you did on ur earphone i suppose.
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like cont playing it like my earphones izzit
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walaoweyh....hardcore nh bro akg smile.gif kekekekekeke...i used dy e5...but not so dynamic lah d amp...more improving n tweaking EQ rather than SQ ...
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Oct 28 2010, 11:26 AM)
walaoweyh....hardcore nh bro akg smile.gif kekekekekeke...i used dy e5...but not so dynamic lah d amp...more improving n tweaking EQ rather than SQ ...
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hi guys,

i was considering the option of matching E3 to a USB DAC and output to a crossroad mylarone IEM..

any idea on its improvement/comments?

I cant test myself at respective stores cause i'm not based in KL

thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(capiche @ Oct 29 2010, 01:58 PM)
hi guys,

i was considering the option of matching E3 to a USB DAC and output to a crossroad mylarone IEM..

any idea on its improvement/comments?

I cant test myself at respective stores cause i'm not based in KL

thanks smile.gif
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Yes it will works. But i would recomend you changing the cable to get the best out of it because of its poorer quality. Any non stock cable will do. DIY canare, hardware shop cable (I don't think you can find any short cable there), or any other cable. Just change it then you'll get a much better sound. What USB DAC are you using? Does it contain any amp? I think that adding the E3 amp will smooth out those harsh pure signal from the USB DAC into a more enjoyable sound.
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cables really play a vital part of the sound... honestly i dont believe it at 1st but after i experience it myself... im now a true believer in good cables produce good sound quality
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Oct 29 2010, 04:18 PM)
cables really play a vital part of the sound... honestly i dont believe it at 1st but after i experience it myself... im now a true believer in good cables produce good sound quality
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yup..i converted to become a believer of ur ajaran too..haha...good cables produce good sound smile.gif drool.gif but, for me, its d last thing to tweak... smile.gif source, headphone, amp, then cble...

i use currently oni cat5 cable..bUT..i can hear difference dy than stock one tongue.gif <<<< if u noe wut i meant ..ekkekeke rclxms.gif

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Agreed. But i would say cable is still the last part to upgrade and should only be upgraded when it has become a limit to your setup. Just upgrade your source such as DAC and amp until reaching ur budget allowed then change the cable to improve the setup. Cable improvement to me is still small as compare to changing source, amp and headphone. So if on a budget some cheap diy cable will do fine until those cable has become a limit of your future setup.

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QUOTE(Akuma no Hana @ Oct 29 2010, 04:36 PM)
Agreed. But i would say cable is still the last part to upgrade and should only be upgraded when it has become a limit to your setup. Just upgrade your source such as DAC and amp until reaching ur budget allowed then change the cable to improve the setup. Cable improvement to me is still small as compare to changing source, amp and headphone. So if on a budget some cheap diy cable will do fine until those cable has become a limit of your future setup.
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fiio e5 with stock cables do produce a good sound but fiio e5 with custom lod with silver wires tends to opens more details BUT....

fiio e5 with LOD silver cyro treated cables do improve the sound sonically.... brows.gif

then again.. the harga also improved sonically too!!!
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QUOTE(capiche @ Oct 29 2010, 01:58 PM)
hi guys,

i was considering the option of matching E3 to a USB DAC and output to a crossroad mylarone IEM..

any idea on its improvement/comments?

I cant test myself at respective stores cause i'm not based in KL

thanks smile.gif
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@Akuma no Hana, the USB DAC i planned to use is the one currently sold by chchyong89... here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1578406. ya, i've sourced few sellers on audiophile to customized a canare/neutrik modules

@E1 - AKG, E7 is rather off my budget though.. and because I sometimes have my iPod with me so was thinking maybe can find a light amp which can be carried around.. smile.gif

and would like to ask all audiophiles maestro here, if i were to custom a 3.5 male to 3.5 female (then connected straight to my IEM).. will it improve audio quality?

thanks for all the prompt responses. smile.gif appreciated!

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QUOTE(capiche @ Oct 29 2010, 06:28 PM)
@Akuma no Hana, the USB DAC i planned to use is the one currently sold by chchyong89... here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1578406. ya, i've sourced few sellers on audiophile to customized a canare/neutrik modules

@E1 - AKG, E7 is rather off my budget though.. and because I sometimes have my iPod with me so was thinking maybe can find a light amp which can be carried around.. smile.gif

and would like to ask all audiophiles maestro here, if i were to custom a 3.5 male to 3.5 female (then connected straight to my IEM).. will it improve audio quality?

thanks for all the prompt responses. smile.gif appreciated!
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Oct 29 2010, 04:44 PM)
fiio e5 with stock cables do produce a good sound but fiio e5 with custom lod with silver wires tends to opens more details BUT....

fiio e5 with LOD silver cyro treated cables do improve the sound sonically.... brows.gif

then again.. the harga also improved sonically too!!!
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This is what i did. But i use 18awg jaben/ALO cryo silver instead of the cheaper version which is slightly thicker and bigger in size. I use crossroad LOD instread of direct LOD with cable.

Not to forget a bit added in soundstage.

It's damn expensive.

QUOTE(capiche @ Oct 29 2010, 06:28 PM)
@Akuma no Hana, the USB DAC i planned to use is the one currently sold by chchyong89... here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1578406. ya, i've sourced few sellers on audiophile to customized a canare/neutrik modules

@E1 - AKG, E7 is rather off my budget though.. and because I sometimes have my iPod with me so was thinking maybe can find a light amp which can be carried around.. smile.gif

and would like to ask all audiophiles maestro here, if i were to custom a 3.5 male to 3.5 female (then connected straight to my IEM).. will it improve audio quality?

thanks for all the prompt responses. smile.gif appreciated!
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Wow that USB DAC have to find some casing for it. Just be careful not to break those soft part when connecting your dac. Those connector are very fragile better find some casing for it soon. And adding those usb cable together will be worth it RM3 only. For the cable i just found one cheap cable. And if you still haven't bought the cable i think this 1 will be great for budget minded people. RM25 for 15cm is enough. Don't go any further than 15cm since you will use it with ipod. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1568734

I would suggest E5 instead of E3. Reason is that you do not need to buy AAA battery so often unless you have rechargeable AAA battery lying around. And E5 got volume control which is very useful indeed especially connected to the USB DAC. Most people said both sound very identical so you should not find any issue with E5. Running your ipod through LOD instead of headphone jack sound better.

No it will not help improve since your IEM cable will be limiting it. Don't care what marketing term those people use better don't get it. If you want to custom it then you will have to custom it straight till the soldering on the earphone itself. But the cost might be high and hard to get thin wires for iem.
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@E1 - AKG, for my iPod setup i just wan easy stuff cause normally i bring tonnes of stuff along the journey.. so i was wondering mayb a e3 would suffice.

@Akuma no Hana, haha... ya i planned to made an acrylic box for it or some DIY stuff.. price is a major concern, so most prob i will go with e3.. oh i see.. just as i thought.. cause i was wondering since IEM has it own impedance.. so hooking onto a cuztomized cable wouldnt bring benefit.. smile.gif

anyway sifuus, is there really diff between a canare/neutrik setups compared to cat5 setup? (edited: price for canare is rather 'pretty') biggrin.gif

thanks for the input. appreciated smile.gif

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Has anyone tried pairing Sennheiser CX series IEM with the Fiio E5 yet? smile.gif
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just wanna letgo my e5 dirt cheap..LOL rm 40 anywan
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Any Fiio E7 user here? Is it good to use as DAC? planning to get one because my Dell Inspiron is quite a bad source to listen songs.
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Nov 4 2010, 01:11 AM)
just wanna letgo my e5 dirt cheap..LOL rm 40 anywan
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aik, Hippoman selling his Hippo stuff ?!?!? laugh.gif don lik Hippo ady ?!?!? tongue.gif
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bro...read PROPERLY tongue.gif before wanna da bao me ...
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Nov 21 2010, 02:20 PM)
bro...read PROPERLY tongue.gif before wanna da bao me ...
SELLING e5 ...E5....E5 is FIIO....NOT hippo ...not hippo brotha...

art of reading is important as i learned it tongue.gif

i dun care wuttaya all wanna say..haha..i m hippo men...SO? :>
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cool2.gif u're da man, Hippoman ! flex.gif
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ha ha ha...sarcastic as u guys r always..huhu

its all personal preferance bro smile.gif

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QUOTE(CoolBoy89 @ Nov 21 2010, 12:52 PM)
Any Fiio E7 user here? Is it good to use as DAC? planning to get one because my Dell Inspiron is quite a bad source to listen songs.
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The music become more detailed and solid after using it.

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ha ha ha...sarcastic as u guys r always..huhu

its all personal preferance bro smile.gif

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Just got my e5 today... To be honest, not really that impressed by it... I plug it in with my Samsung S5 Mp3 player, it increased my trebles and bass, making the highs very sharp n piercing... Well you can say it's an increase in clarity but still I prefer the original sound... Overall, I think it's good for Mp3 players with bad EQ and SQ like iPods...
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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Nov 25 2010, 03:06 AM)
Just got my e5 today... To be honest, not really that impressed by it... I plug it in with my Samsung S5 Mp3 player, it increased my trebles and bass, making the highs very sharp n piercing... Well you can say it's an increase in clarity but still I prefer the original sound... Overall, I think it's good for Mp3 players with bad EQ and SQ like iPods...
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QUOTE(camrycilver @ Nov 25 2010, 03:12 AM)
so, wat u gonna do wit ur E5? laugh.gif
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I got an iPod LOD... Probably gonna pair it with my iPhone lol since I don't bring my mp3 player out everytime.. At least it improves iPhone's EQ by quite a bit haha... Sometimes can connect to my laptop when listen to music with headphones... Got use also lar haha... It wasn't very expensive anyways, got from eBay around 12pounds = around Rm60...


Added on November 25, 2010, 7:12 amDoes it requires any burn in though?? I might be wrong with just few ten minutes of testing it...

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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Nov 25 2010, 07:10 AM)
I got an iPod LOD... Probably gonna pair it with my iPhone lol since I don't bring my mp3 player out everytime.. At least it improves iPhone's EQ by quite a bit haha... Sometimes can connect to my laptop when listen to music with headphones... Got use also lar haha... It wasn't very expensive anyways, got from eBay around 12pounds = around Rm60...


Added on November 25, 2010, 7:12 amDoes it requires any burn in though?? I might be wrong with just few ten minutes of testing it...
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thrs a gen misconception wif amps, esp d expectation of "improved" sq ... a gd amp doesnt color d sq, it basically amplifies ... thr4 gold in gold out & rubbish in rubbish out as well. 4 d case of selected mp3 players wif dock connectors, including iphone / ipod (except shuffle), certain model of sony & sansa, where d internal amp can b bypassed wif lod, then d improved clarity wil shw wif a gd amp ...

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QUOTE(Inspiralution @ Nov 25 2010, 01:17 PM)
if u plan to use it with your iphone only u should get the e1,less cable to bring around but no bass boost  sweat.gif
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Mp3 player as well.. The amount of cable is the same what.. If use the LOD I dun need to use the 3.5-3.5mm plug
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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Nov 25 2010, 03:06 AM)
Just got my e5 today... To be honest, not really that impressed by it... I plug it in with my Samsung S5 Mp3 player, it increased my trebles and bass, making the highs very sharp n piercing... Well you can say it's an increase in clarity but still I prefer the original sound... Overall, I think it's good for Mp3 players with bad EQ and SQ like iPods...
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Something to do with your headphone/IEM/earbud. Fiio benefit those bigger can, you gain nothing if your earbud is already very easy to drive.
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Nov 25 2010, 02:54 PM)
thrs a gen misconception wif amps, esp d expectation of "improved" sq ... a gd amp doesnt color d sq, it basically amplifies ... thr4 gold in gold out & rubbish in rubbish out as well.  4 d case of selected mp3 players wif dock connectors, including iphone / ipod (except shuffle), certain model of sony & sansa, where d internal amp can b bypassed wif lod, then d improved clarity wil shw wif a gd amp ...
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quite agree with the statement above... it is not THE BEST amp i ever heard but it is a bang for bucks amp.... need to know what is ur source files, ur connections and ur phones too....

ive been paring my e5 with bijou 4 (later broke), soundmagic PL 21 (which i give it to my friend), CK100, baby stax and DBA - 02 and it improved the sound of all the phones i mention but not sonically but still i can hear details tighten, bass sound alot more controlled than unamping it.last time i combine it with EFN custom LOD, which is good but when i got my whiplash Elite SCSCag LOD.. it sounded even better....

the thing about e5 is... its too small to be carried around lol.... but eventhou i seldom use it now... i still keep it... just a reminder how good is the amp for me...
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IPOD Shuffle + FIIO L2 cable + FIIO E5 + PHILIPS SHP8900
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All songs rip into Apple Lossless Format from my music cds.

This system sounds great, although E5 lacks a little bit power to drive my headphones!

But I am still happy with it. At least I can listen to my favourite songs while travelling, without sacrifice a lot in sound quality. Really!
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Is Fiio E7 good for Sennheiser IE7? I've never used any portable amp before :-s
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QUOTE(Flame113 @ Dec 4 2010, 10:29 AM)
Is Fiio E7 good for Sennheiser IE7? I've never used any portable amp before :-s
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no man.
srsly....
u r better off using the IE7 without an amp.
Cheap amp will only spoil the listening pleasure.
u need something better.
since the IE7 is a bit bass heavy...y not consider an amp which emphasizes the mids and highs.
Drop by Jaben. They can help u get what u need. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Flame113 @ Dec 4 2010, 10:29 AM)
Is Fiio E7 good for Sennheiser IE7? I've never used any portable amp before :-s
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I'm using iphone 3G
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i wanna try pairing E5 with my Sansa Clip+ and Senn HD 201 (plus Ep-630) whistling.gif
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QUOTE(GenericMav @ Dec 22 2010, 02:00 PM)
i wanna try pairing E5 with my Sansa Clip+ and Senn HD 201 (plus Ep-630)  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(walabies @ Dec 22 2010, 02:10 PM)
I am thinking a direct output would be better. HD201 is bassy and E5 amps the bass somemore
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hm.. apart from bass, i found that my Sansa is not powerful enough to drive the HD-201
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QUOTE(GenericMav @ Dec 22 2010, 02:23 PM)
hm.. apart from bass, i found that my Sansa is not powerful enough to drive the HD-201
maybe E5 could be a better upgrade for it?  hmm.gif
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Just wondering if anyone compared the E7 with an Ibasso D4 Mamba?

I've got myself a pair of SR125i's a few weeks back. I have a Sansa clip and I've been using it on my laptop most of the time (home use anyways) and I find the output from my laptop to be decent......... UNTIL......... my mate came over and plugged in his gamma2. Sound felt much more detailed and 'full'. Soundstage seems to open up as well.

So I've been looking around for alternatives. Was looking at the D2+ and it looks great! Not sure how it sounds but reviews seem to compare it with the E7. And the E7 looks great too in my opinion! thumbup.gif and at its price, I guess its a real bargain.

After further scouting I found the D4 mamba which...... is gonna stretch my budget a little but I was just wondering if it won't be much of an improvement over the E7? I've never tried any of them though and I'm stuck in the UK. I basso products cost an extra arm compared to Msia but the E7 is just a little more expensive laugh.gif
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Attached Image I bought in E9 because my E5 lacks some power to drive TAKSTAR HI2050 headphones.

I still prefer E5's BASS BOOST mode so I decided to use E5 as a "bass booter" since E9 does not has this feature.

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Much better than I aspected!

Very fast, rich, tighter bass come out from my headphones.

E9 not only has more power but much better control compare to E5.
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QUOTE(yapte @ Dec 26 2010, 11:50 PM)
Attached Image I bought in E9 because my E5 lacks some power to drive TAKSTAR HI2050 headphones.

I still prefer E5's BASS BOOST mode so I decided to use E5 as a "bass booter" since E9 does not has this feature.

Result?

Much better than I aspected!

Very fast, rich, tighter bass come out from my headphones.

E9 not only has more power but much better control compare to E5.
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How is the takstar going bro? smile.gif Any reviews lately? laugh.gif Funny reactions from other forummers in the thread though.
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My E9 just arrived few days ago. I will let it run-in for a while before posting my HI2050 review.

Thanks for asking!

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Is e5 good enough to power up Monster Studio headphone? Will it make a big difference?

Also, my laptop is giving me white noise when I listen to my headphone because apparently, it is a noisy source. So, should I go for e5 or e7 when I listen through the laptop?

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Dec 30 2010, 05:41 AM)
Is e5 good enough to power up Monster Studio headphone? Will it make a big difference?

Also, my laptop is giving me white noise when I listen to my headphone because apparently, it is a noisy source. So, should I go for e5 or e7 when I listen through the laptop?

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The noise doesn't come out when I play it with my mp3 player. Only on laptop.
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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Dec 30 2010, 11:23 AM)
The noise doesn't come out when I play it with my mp3 player. Only on laptop.
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I use iPod Nano.
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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Dec 30 2010, 04:22 PM)
I use iPod Nano.
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Btw ... where can i buy that cable for the amps to iPhone dock? The one show in picture ... how much would it cost?
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QUOTE(chelseafanz @ Dec 31 2010, 12:41 AM)
Hi All ... I'm at the moment using my 3GS as my mp3 player ... am using Philip SHE 9700 with E5 ... is it good to upgrade to E7 ? Big different?

Btw ... where can i buy that cable for the amps to iPhone dock? The one show in picture ... how much would it cost?
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which amp should i get for Iphone 3g? and where can i get it?
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1. economy class -  fiio e1 amp

2. business class - fiio l3 lod + e5 amp

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Anyone can tell me the differences between e1, e5 and e3?? I'm using iPhone 4 , and my headphone is Sony mdr-v150, which one to go for bettery sound quality ? Just in case I buy e1, that amp only suitable for iPhone rite? Other musicnplayer or phone cannot be used with it rite?
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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Jan 11 2011, 01:07 AM)
Anyone can tell me the differences between e1, e5 and e3?? I'm using iPhone 4 , and my headphone is Sony mdr-v150, which one to go for bettery sound quality ? Just in case I buy e1, that amp only suitable for iPhone rite? Other musicnplayer or phone cannot be used with it rite?
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For E5 and E3, it sound very similar, one with recharged battery features where one are AAA battery operated.

However, the drawback of E1 is where it will consume your phone internal battery. But it does really make it sound better for your headphone. For me i think E3 and E5 will not be good for you. Since you may just go to E1.
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Hello all, may i know that, is my E1 okay to drive my Beats Solo paired with iPod Nano/iPhone ar?
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Hello all, may i know that, is my E1 okay to drive my Beats Solo paired with iPod Nano/iPhone ar?
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Hello all, may i know that, is my E1 okay to drive my Beats Solo paired with iPod Nano/iPhone ar?
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Why don't u try it urself? If it sounds good to u, means it can drive the solo rolleyes.gif
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Why don't u try it urself? If it sounds good to u, means it can drive the solo rolleyes.gif
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Yeap tried on it everyday but i'm just thinking is it enough for E1?
Coz im not a pro in audiophile, maybe my 'Okay' is not okay for u guys haha..
thiking whether maybe upgrading another portable amp. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Jing-leBelle @ Mar 3 2011, 05:03 AM)
Yeap tried on it everyday but i'm just thinking is it enough for E1?
Coz im not a pro in audiophile, maybe my 'Okay' is not okay for u guys haha..
thiking whether maybe upgrading another portable amp.  sweat.gif
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Maybe the amp those pros recommend u doesn't sound good to u. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jing-leBelle @ Mar 3 2011, 05:03 AM)
Yeap tried on it everyday but i'm just thinking is it enough for E1?
Coz im not a pro in audiophile, maybe my 'Okay' is not okay for u guys haha..
thiking whether maybe upgrading another portable amp.  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Jing-leBelle @ Feb 28 2011, 07:03 PM)
Hello all, may i know that, is my E1 okay to drive my Beats Solo paired with iPod Nano/iPhone ar?
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Bro... if you are using solo maybe you should try a more powerful amp. Or else your solo will be left there crying. It deserves more...
There is a saying that your amp has to be 1.5x times the price of your music equipment. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(walabies @ Mar 4 2011, 06:14 PM)
Bro... if you are using solo maybe you should try a more powerful amp. Or else your solo will be left there crying. It deserves more...
There is a saying that your amp has to be 1.5x times the price of your music equipment.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Wah! 1.5x omg..E1-AKG is recommend E7, around the same price range, any other model? smile.gif
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Wah! 1.5x omg..E1-AKG is recommend E7, around the same price range, any other model? smile.gif
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QUOTE(CoolBoy89 @ Mar 22 2011, 03:48 PM)
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Mar 23 2011, 08:16 PM)
Hopefully before end of April. Might get a demo unit in next few weeks.
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E7 new user reporting in. Item still in the box, haven't test it out yet. Can wait to go back home and rip that mother!

Edit : Ok, I'm currently testing out the E7. It blew me away! Holy crap this thing is awesome. I'm not a seasoned audiophile, in fact I just started my journey. But after plugging in the E7 to my laptop, my God.. Everything is more detail, the music seems more energetic (powerful/aggressive/whatever-the-heck). Definitely worth my money.

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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Mar 31 2011, 11:57 AM)
E7 new user reporting in. Item still in the box, haven't test it out yet. Can wait to go back home and rip that mother!

Edit : Ok, I'm currently testing out the E7. It blew me away! Holy crap this thing is awesome. I'm not a seasoned audiophile, in fact I just started my journey. But after plugging in the E7 to my laptop, my God.. Everything is more detail, the music seems more energetic (powerful/aggressive/whatever-the-heck). Definitely worth my money.
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Apr 1 2011, 05:42 PM)
presume tat u r using d usb out  hmm.gif
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Yes Sir. Usb out, headphone out. Right? I can really hear the difference bro. My music seems "weak" without the E7. Sounds kinda weak. But with the E7, I need say no further. Even though I never heard of any other Amp/DAC but this thing really puts a smile on my face!

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Hey guys, i'm using a Shure SRH440 with an iPod Nano 4th gen (may upgrade to Cowon S9).
Can anyone recommend me a good amp?
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Apr 1 2011, 06:02 PM)
Yes Sir. Usb out, headphone out. Right? I can really hear the difference bro. My music seems "weak" without the E7. Sounds kinda weak. But with the E7, I need say no further. Even though I never heard of any other Amp/DAC but this thing really puts a smile on my face!

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so it means the audio can be transferred direct form pc to end phone like this:

usb to pc -> e7 -> end output

and not

usb to pc + e7 to audio source-> end output

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Apr 5 2011, 08:25 PM)
so it means the audio can be transferred direct form pc to end phone like this:

usb to pc -> e7 -> end output

and not

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I've no idea what you meant. These are the 2 ways you can use the E7.

lappy soundcard(speaker out etc) -> E7 Line In -> E7 headphone out.

In this case, the E7 works only as an amp. No DAC involved.

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lappy -> E7 USB In -> E7 headphone out.

With the USB In, your laptop/PC soundcard isn't used. E7's DAC is used instead. Now E7 works as both a DAC and amp.

If you want DAC only function, you'll need the L7. Don't think it's available at Malaysia yet though.
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Mar 31 2011, 11:57 AM)
E7 new user reporting in. Item still in the box, haven't test it out yet. Can wait to go back home and rip that mother!

Edit : Ok, I'm currently testing out the E7. It blew me away! Holy crap this thing is awesome. I'm not a seasoned audiophile, in fact I just started my journey. But after plugging in the E7 to my laptop, my God.. Everything is more detail, the music seems more energetic (powerful/aggressive/whatever-the-heck). Definitely worth my money.
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Just got mine today and I was about to type the same thing biggrin.gif I'm actually surprised it's so light.
There's something I wanna ask, I use the E7 mainly on my laptop (with usb), so I was wondering if I should turn usb charging off every time it's fully charged to keep the battery life?

And another thing is, when I use the 3.5mm jack as input, the volume is very low blink.gif

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QUOTE(Agnaem @ Apr 6 2011, 01:29 AM)
I've no idea what you meant. These are the 2 ways you can use the E7.

lappy soundcard(speaker out etc) -> E7 Line In -> E7 headphone out.

In this case, the E7 works only as an amp. No DAC involved.

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lappy -> E7 USB In -> E7 headphone out.

With the USB In, your laptop/PC soundcard isn't used. E7's DAC is used instead. Now E7 works as both a DAC and amp.

If you want DAC only function, you'll need the L7. Don't think it's available at Malaysia yet though.
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QUOTE(iitadakimas @ Apr 6 2011, 02:43 PM)
Just got mine today and I was about to type the same thing biggrin.gif I'm actually surprised it's so light.
There's something I wanna ask, I use the E7 mainly on my laptop (with usb), so I was wondering if I should turn usb charging off every time it's fully charged to keep the battery life?

And another thing is, when I use the 3.5mm jack as input, the volume is very low  blink.gif
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Not sure, for me I just leave it as it is. Wouldn't make much difference I believe.

Ermmm, other than 3.5 what are you using?
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Using usb now. I just plug 3.5 to test, and I have to max out the volume to 60.

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QUOTE(iitadakimas @ Apr 6 2011, 08:49 PM)
Using usb now. I just plug 3.5 to test, and I have to max out the volume to 60.
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Erm, what type of file are you playing? Low bit mp3 might sound soft. But 320 mp3 and FLAC certainly blow the sound at full force even at 35. Seriously, 40 is pretty loud to me.
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QUOTE(iitadakimas @ Apr 6 2011, 08:49 PM)
Using usb now. I just plug 3.5 to test, and I have to max out the volume to 60.
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This may sound a little insulting but is the volume of the headphones' out of your PC turned to a reasonable level  hmm.gif
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Hmm now that you mention, the volume on my laptop is the usual volume I used to listen, I tried max out the volume on my laptop and it sounds exactly the same on usb thumbup.gif

Most of my songs are in 320, haven't try flac yet. 20 for me is quite loud enough hehe.

And do you guys turn the keylock on? I turn it on cos I don't want the screen to stay on.
But it's pretty annoying every time I adjust the volume I have to unlock it sweat.gif

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QUOTE(iitadakimas @ Apr 7 2011, 12:02 AM)
Hmm now that you mention, the volume on my laptop is the usual volume I used to listen, I tried max out the volume on my laptop and it sounds exactly the same on usb  thumbup.gif

Most of my songs are in 320, haven't try flac yet. 20 for me is quite loud enough hehe.

And do you guys turn the keylock on? I turn it on cos I don't want the screen to stay on.
But it's pretty annoying every time I adjust the volume I have to unlock it  sweat.gif
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Lol. There you go.

Nope, don't lock the darn thing. Just plug in, tune in, and space out..

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Alright thx for the advice biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(iitadakimas @ Apr 8 2011, 03:40 PM)
Alright thx for the advice  biggrin.gif
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No problem. Anyways what are using it with?
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Apr 8 2011, 04:19 PM)
No problem. Anyways what are using it with?
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With the Beats Studio now. But thinking of getting the Denon D2000.
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QUOTE(iitadakimas @ Apr 8 2011, 04:43 PM)
With the Beats Studio now. But thinking of getting the Denon D2000.
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Apr 8 2011, 06:52 PM)
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post Apr 11 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Apr 10 2011, 02:30 PM)
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Ah, the much anticipated E11. rclxms.gif
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E11 looks cool smile.gif

i wonder how much izit ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(camrycilver @ Apr 11 2011, 08:54 AM)
E11 looks cool smile.gif

i wonder how much izit ? hmm.gif
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Right? Love the design. Reported to be cheaper than E7. So maybe around RM100+ - RM200+. Waiting for sifu ClieOS to review it.
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Apr 11 2011, 09:00 AM)
Right? Love the design. Reported to be cheaper than E7. So maybe around RM100+ - RM200+. Waiting for sifu ClieOS to review it.
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so its gonna b cheaper, tats gud rclxms.gif (create new wishlist brows.gif )
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QUOTE(camrycilver @ Apr 11 2011, 09:03 AM)
so its gonna b cheaper, tats gud rclxms.gif  (create new wishlist brows.gif )
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Yup, because it is just a headphone amp so should be cheaper than E7. Even Fiio's staff said that it will be cheaper in head-fi. Lol, the never ending journey of audiophiles.
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How many of you here actually uses desktop headphones amplifier hmm.gif

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I don't. Because I don't have a desktop.
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Apr 14 2011, 12:05 PM)
How many of you here actually uses desktop headphones amplifier  hmm.gif

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hmm i dont see the reason for it, cause i dont understand much on the desktop amps purpose, btw I'm on an X-Fi card direct to to my cans

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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Apr 11 2011, 10:07 AM)
Yup, because it is just a headphone amp so should be cheaper than E7. Even Fiio's staff said that it will be cheaper in head-fi. Lol, the never ending journey of audiophiles.
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And they didn't simply just strip out the DAC off the E7 and call it the E11, they actually improve on the amp. So not only are we gonna get it cheaper, amp wise, it's going to be better! drool.gif

Planning on getting this thing to power up my Grado SR60i. I dunno why people say these are easy to drive. In fact, because of the low sensitivity(and low impedance), it actually demands more volume on my source to match the volume of my IEMs, and this is in a quiet room. Not wanting to drain the battery of my HM601 too fast, and also wanting a bit of low-end freq punch, I thought I'd give this a go once they come out.
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so now with my new (2nd hand) X-Fi extremeGamer on my PC, do i actually still need the Fiio headamp to pump the performance of my HD681? or just use the SC out to the phone will be enough?
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I'd say if it sounds good, why bother with an amp? You'd be using it more as an equalizer rather than to drive it better.
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Apr 15 2011, 10:05 PM)
so now with my new (2nd hand) X-Fi extremeGamer on my PC, do i actually still need the Fiio headamp to pump the performance of my HD681? or just use the SC out to the phone will be enough?
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There will be a difference with an amp but it is subjective to your preference.
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Apr 23 2011, 10:31 AM)
There will be a difference with an amp but it is subjective to your preference.
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well i got a bundle (srh440+hippo+ amp) and it did make differences.. thank (the audio) god for that
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Latest update on Fiio E11 at head-fi. link

Dayum nice! ClieOS will be sent a sample; looking forward to his review.
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Hi, sorry i'm pretty new here.

I'm using ATH-ES55 with Zune HD. May I know which Amp is suitable for it?

Thanks alot.
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QUOTE(ppine @ May 6 2011, 02:52 AM)
Hi, sorry i'm pretty new here.

I'm using ATH-ES55 with Zune HD. May I know which Amp is suitable for it?

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Budget hmm.gif Portability hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ppine @ May 6 2011, 02:52 AM)
Hi, sorry i'm pretty new here.

I'm using ATH-ES55 with Zune HD. May I know which Amp is suitable for it?

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The latest E11. Need to wait for a while though.
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And there's the new DAP that Fiio is cooking up, when is that going to come out?
If it sounds close to the HM-601, then maybe........ rolleyes.gif

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Thanks for the reply. Portability is my main concern.


Thanks.
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ May 6 2011, 09:56 AM)
The latest E11. Need to wait for a while though.
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Thanks for the reply. Portability is my main concern.
Thanks.
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either the E5 or the new E11

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Thanks. Will be looking forward towards E11.
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QUOTE(ppine @ May 6 2011, 11:20 AM)
Thanks. Will be looking forward towards E11.
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hey bro akg smile.gif e7 is considered a neutral amp anot? cuz nw thinking of fioo combo e7+ e9 but first go for e7 then up e9 ..do u consider it neutral? cuz i dun quite like coloured amp smile.gif thnx for ur reply in advance

ps: e7+e9 suits me cuz when wanna go out, plug out e7 n go when at home plug e7+e9 then kawtim..power to run headphones also quite good right?
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Soon to be owner of the E11 here. smile.gif
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ May 19 2011, 09:38 AM)
hey bro akg smile.gif e7 is considered a neutral amp anot? cuz nw thinking of fioo combo e7+ e9 but first go for e7 then up e9 ..do u consider it neutral? cuz i dun quite like coloured amp smile.gif thnx for ur reply in advance

ps: e7+e9 suits me cuz when wanna go out, plug out e7 n go when at home plug e7+e9 then kawtim..power to run headphones also quite good right?
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Both are reviewed as neutral sounding amp.
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sorry noob here what's the meaning of neutral sounding amp icon_question.gif
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An amp that is not colored.
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An amp that is not colored.
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An amp that doesn't have a boost or bump in any particular part of the frequency.
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hmm great to hear dat its neutral amp smile.gif fund starts .. *runs away* icon_rolleyes.gif people n thnx :grin:
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ May 19 2011, 03:14 PM)
hmm great to hear dat its neutral amp smile.gif fund starts .. *runs away* icon_rolleyes.gif people n thnx :grin:
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