I wonder why AMAX marketing still poor as compared to P1.
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Nov 25 2008, 10:15 PM
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I wonder why AMAX marketing still poor as compared to P1.
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Nov 25 2008, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 25 2008, 10:15 PM) Hmmm, I think what I can say is P1 only creates a good awareness to the public through advertisement, as to knowledge the whole Malaysian the existence of Wimax. However, most people didn’t actually take the real initiative to sign-up for P1. Some people sign-up and after that return back the product due to many reasons. Anyway, I am thinking maybe P1 has spent too much money on advertisement, activities. Blah blah… But, not so sure whether thier expected return is great or not?On second thought, maybe P1 Company has hired a better marketer to market their product and also more active in activities such as mobile team, setting up booth, blah blah blah and so on….. Secondly, P1 CEO was previously worked in TM Company before. So that fellow got better experience loh and very familiar with broadband service & product. Well, your topic is quite subjective and arguementative. Different people will have different point of view! This post has been edited by Stepup!: Nov 26 2008, 12:04 AM |
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Nov 25 2008, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(Stepup! @ Nov 25 2008, 11:31 PM) Hmmm, I think what I can say is P1 only creates a good awareness to the public through advertisement, as to knowledge the whole Malaysian the existence of Wimax. However, most people didn’t actually take the real initiative to sign-up for P1. Some people sign-up and after that return back the product due to many reasons. Anyway, I am thinking maybe P1 has spent too much money on advertisement, activities. Blah blah… But, not so sure whether they expected return is great or not? It's subjective and argumentative that's why it can be brought up to discuss with everyone. So everyone can provide their own point of view.On second thought, maybe P1 Company has hired a better marketer to market their product. Especially in term of activities, blah blah blah and so on….. Secondly, P1 CEO was previously worked in TM Company before. So that fellow got better experience loh and very familiar with broadband service & product. Well, your topic is quite subjective and arguementative. Different people will have different point of view! My opinion is similar to Maxis 3G and Celcom 3G, their service is not very good, take up rate still considered as low, alot of people complain but still their advertising continues everywhere ... As you said, P1 is bringing awareness to the public the existence of WiMAX, it's benefiting AMAX indirectly as well. Also, P1 and AMAX are new kids on the block, so the branding is very important. I think they have the need to boost up their identity if they wanna compete with the well established Maxis and Celcom. Of course, heavy advertisement also could backfire like TMNET and PROTON ... lol ... Thinking of TMNET, you will think of low throughput and bad service, while PROTON will make public think of low quality car ... hehehe ... |
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Nov 26 2008, 01:03 AM
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any idea when is this wimax gonna cross over to east malaysia?
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Nov 26 2008, 01:07 AM
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Limited coverage sux...
Even though P1 is in Johor, but still very limited area... cover my office but not my home, thus, turns me off in applying it... |
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Nov 26 2008, 02:01 AM
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Hehe .. so steady steady ... in case signing up now and they bankrupt next month ... so better wait until the coverage becomes bigger and more feedbacks from users.
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Nov 26 2008, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(kukujiaotm @ Nov 25 2008, 08:52 PM) rm99*/month - USB modem, up to 1Mbps I am using 1mbps Streamyx's package and the speed I usually get through DDL is 113kbps(averagely). -->chooncc, So expensive? You don't have a proper knowledge of Wimax yet! The fact is i gotta let you know that Streamyx RM88 or Combo RM110 cannot even get 1Mbps connection speed actually. You know how fast is the speed for 1Mbps streamyx? Ans: Probably 60, 70 to 80 kb/s only. This one can download more than 110 kb/s. If you don't believe, you can try them on Pc fair, but i am not sure whether Amax having a booth there or not this coming event on december 2008? This Multi-User modem 1.5Mbps vs Streamyx 2Mbps, about the same price, but i think Wimax still win! Some people have experienced that even though they have 2Mbps. Their download speed is only 110 kb/s maximum or even lesser than 100kb/s. However, this 1,5Mbps can go up to 210kb/s <<< i got this speed during Broadband fair, testing using Rapidshare & Megaupload. Youtube super fast download, no need loading! What about streamyx? hahaha, no prove yet at the moment Well, Do you felt cheated by TM-NET? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=149&t=830135&st= Survey on Streamyx Users Satisfaction, How much you love or hate Streamyx? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/816798 Streamyx very clever to con people. All their package is only their marketing strategy, and don't really provide good service at all Added on November 25, 2008, 8:55 pm It is definately good to create a strong competition among the internet service provider! So that consumer like us will benefit. Let's put TM net down, hahahaha! It's just some of you do not get the full speed of 1mbps doesn't mean all of us do not get it. I also understand how much you guys hate Streamyx. To be honest, I don't like it very much too now. My line often experience frequent disconnection whenever there's rain before or after so I cannot really play my games/surf the net. However, I do not think Amax is better compared to P1. We just need some "lab rats" of Lowyat.net to try em' out and post the results here. |
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Nov 26 2008, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(leelc99 @ Nov 26 2008, 09:58 AM) I am using 1mbps Streamyx's package and the speed I usually get through DDL is 113kbps(averagely). Ok leelc99, the fact is many of us not getting 1Mbps anymore or actually I can say no getting 1Mbps at all, using speedtest is not so accurate. You can browse through the Lowyat forum and you can see many complaints and the true colours streamyx.It's just some of you do not get the full speed of 1mbps doesn't mean all of us do not get it. I also understand how much you guys hate Streamyx. To be honest, I don't like it very much too now. My line often experience frequent disconnection whenever there's rain before or after so I cannot really play my games/surf the net. However, I do not think Amax is better compared to P1. We just need some "lab rats" of Lowyat.net to try em' out and post the results here. The RM99 Amax USB modem can go up to 1.1mbps ( 1100kbps ) or 1.2mbps ( 1200kbps ), download speed I tried before can reach up to 120kb/s ++. And don't forget! Wimax is more portable! You can bring out here and there! In the future, trust me, all Malaysian will using Wimax technology for wireless connection! Even Mobile Phone companies are planning to replace Wimax technology over the 3G technology. Nokia, Samsung, Motorola have already launched a WiMax Mobile Phone in oversea countries, but not in Malaysia yet only! In other words, Wimax is way far better than 3G and the stupid telephone line (do you know the big limitation of telephone line???) Some people have an advantage in 1mbps because they bribed TM to increase the speed for them. Especially I remembered I read one thread in Lowyat forum. Someone said he bribed TM to get good speed. Ya, so what he get good speed? Maybe the people around his area will suffer only a little! Actually for those business people who signed up for Streamyx Business package 1Mbps ( SOHO ), I would actually suggest them to take the Amax Rm138 Multi-User modem 1.5Mbps or the P1 RM99 1.2mbps / RM229 2.4mbps. Firstly, it is because the price is more reasonable. Secondly, better than streamyx lah the connection, streamyx so suck!!! However, maybe some people may argue and said depends on what type of business <<< Ok, in this point view, still can be debate! Hahaha, you know how expensive for Streamyx business package! 1.0 Mbps = RM148 2.0 Mbps = RM 318 <<<< Too much lah!!! I don't mind whether you prefer P1 more than Amax. To me, they might be the same only lah! But, I will be White mouse ( in chinese term ), go to Pc fair and really test out both P1 and Amax for real Comparison. As I also want to see which company provides better service & better connection! I will also try to snap some photo and post in the Lowyat forum to acknowledge everyone about wimax! This post has been edited by kukujiaotm: Nov 27 2008, 02:49 AM |
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Nov 26 2008, 04:31 PM
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wth???
113kbps = 113kb/s lah the one that makes the difference is the b and B |
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Nov 26 2008, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(kukujiaotm @ Nov 26 2008, 03:01 PM) Ok leelc99, the fact is many of us not getting 1Mbps anymore or actually I can say no getting 1Mbps at all, using speedtest is not so accurate. You can browse through the Lowyat forum and you can see many complaints and the true colours streamyx. DDL of 113kbps is consider slow! Or do you mean 113kb/s??? Damn. You're dumb or something?The RM99 Amax USB modem can go up to 1.1mbps ( 1100kbps ) or 1.2mbps ( 1200kbps ), download speed I tried before can reach up to 120kb/s ++. And don't forget! Wimax is more portable! You can bring out here and there! In the future, trust me, all Malaysian will using Wimax technology for wireless connection! Even Mobile Phone company planning to replace Wimax technology over 3G technology. Nokia, Samsung, Motorola have launched a WiMax Mobile Phone in oversea countries, but not in Malaysia yet only! In other words, Wimax is way far better than 3G and the stupid telephone line (do you know the big limitation of telephone line???) Some people have an advantage in 1mbps because they bribe TM to increase the speed for them. Especially I remembered I read one thread in Lowyat forum. Someone said he bribe TM to get good speed. Ya, so what he get good speed? Maybe the people around his area will suffer only a little! Secondly, could be possible because you are using Streamyx Business package 1Mbps which costed RM148 is it? But many real life people also complaint that Streamyx SOHO 1Mbps is slow for them. Actually for those business people who signed up for Streamyx Business package 1Mbps ( SOHO ), I would actually suggest them to take the Amax Rm138 Multi-User modem 1.5Mbps or the P1 RM99 1.2mbps / RM229 2.4mbps. Firstly, it is because the price is more reasonable. Secondly, better than streamyx lah the connection, streamyx so suck!!! However, maybe some people may argue and said depends on what type of business <<< Ok, in this point view, still can be debate! Hahaha, you know how expensive for Streamyx business package! 1.0 Mbps = RM148 2.0 Mbps = RM 318 <<<< Too much lah!!! I don't mind whether you prefer P1 more than Amax. To me, they might be the same only lah! But, I will be White mouse ( in chinese term ), go to Pc fair and really test out both P1 and Amax for real Comparison. As I also want to see which company provides better service & better connection! I will also try to snap some photo and post in the Lowyat forum to acknowledge everyone about wimax! 1mbps = 1mb/s ? Aren't the 2 the same? And I told you I'm using Streamyx normal package RM88 1mbps. Not any business package. Diao. Read and see it with your own eyes. Yaya, 113 and 120+ very big difference. Damn. *(Sarcasm. If you realize.) This post has been edited by leelc99: Nov 26 2008, 07:00 PM |
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Nov 26 2008, 07:05 PM
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I believe Amax offering still in best effort basis right? If only so few using it of course the connection will be good. Also, wireless usually have high latency compared to adsl internet.
Update: I just went to their website and I found this. The amax network will cover the entire Klang Valley by end 2008. By the end of 2010, the entire nation will be one big amax hot spot. If they really can cover the whole KLANG VALLEY before 2009 comes, which less than 2 months, then we all know they are really good and live up to their words. Honestly, it will be hard for them to achieve that though. This post has been edited by z3171600: Nov 26 2008, 07:07 PM |
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Nov 26 2008, 07:20 PM
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Yeah, I live in Klang and as far as I concern, there's still no Amax coverage over here. Only P1.
Hope they can really keep their words. And we shall see P1 or Amax is better. That's the time Streamyx will go down the drain. |
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Nov 26 2008, 07:57 PM
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Quote : Diao. Read and see it with your own eyes.
Wahhh you swear at me!!! Don't need to be so mean ok!!! Well, i confess that it is my mistake for mentioning about the 113kbps & 113kb/s. Some people can't differentiate it well. Anyway, i am sorry Quote : Yaya, 113 and 120+ very big difference. Damn. *(Sarcasm. If you realize.) I didn't say it is a big difference. What i tried to mention is the advantage of Wimax is portable as compared to Streamyx or any internet service provide which using telephone line! Quote: The amax network will cover the entire Klang Valley by end 2008 What you can say is Amax words ( The amax network will cover the entire Klang Valley by end 2008 ) is too much lah. It is definitely Impossible to cover the entire klang valley by 2008. However, currently they have no interest on klang valley. My friend who is working in Amax Company told me that they are actually focusing on Areas along the whole LDP highway rather than klang valley. Basically, what I am trying to say is they try not to interfere with P1 Areas loh… quote: That's the time Streamyx will go down the drain I would say like this: That's the time Streamyx will go down to HELL!!! For letting the Majority of Malaysian suffering from slow speed or problems.... This post has been edited by kukujiaotm: Dec 14 2008, 04:14 PM |
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Nov 26 2008, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(kukujiaotm @ Nov 26 2008, 07:57 PM) Quote : Diao. Read and see it with your own eyes. Nice 1, Hopefully they (AMAX/P1) can cover whole malaysia.. so i can 'ONLINE' everywhere when i travel..Wahhh you swear at me!!! Don't need to be so mean ok!!! Well, i confess that it is my mistake for mentioning about the 113kbps & 113kb/s. Some people can't differentiate it well. Anyway, i am sorry Quote : Yaya, 113 and 120+ very big difference. Damn. *(Sarcasm. If you realize.) I didn't say it is a big difference. What i tried to mention is the advantage of Wimax is portable as compared to Streamyx or any internet service provide which using telephone line! Quote: The amax network will cover the entire Klang Valley by end 2008 To me P1 also same lah! They promised to cover the entire Damansara and some other places by end of this year. Recently, they have removed those places from their website. Correct me if i am wrong? But what you can say is Amax words ( The amax network will cover the entire Klang Valley by end 2008 ) is too much lah. It is definitely Impossible to cover the entire klang valley by 2008. However, currently they have no interest on klang valley. My friend who is working in Amax Company told me that they are actually focusing on Areas along the whole LDP highway rather than klang valley. Basically, what I am trying to say is they try not to interfere with P1 Areas loh… quote: That's the time Streamyx will go down the drain I would say like this: Streamyx will go down to HELL!!! For letting the Majority of Malaysian suffering from slow speed or problems.... -I'm using 3G wireless now.. headache is my main daily meal |
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Nov 26 2008, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(kukujiaotm @ Nov 26 2008, 07:57 PM) Quote : Diao. Read and see it with your own eyes. 1. Honestly, alot of people can't differentiate between bits and bytes. And alot of people are using download speed from their torrent client or download server (like rapidshare) as benchmark of the throughput. In short, not everyone knows what they are doing. No one is perfect.Wahhh you swear at me!!! Don't need to be so mean ok!!! Well, i confess that it is my mistake for mentioning about the 113kbps & 113kb/s. Some people can't differentiate it well. Anyway, i am sorry Quote : Yaya, 113 and 120+ very big difference. Damn. *(Sarcasm. If you realize.) I didn't say it is a big difference. What i tried to mention is the advantage of Wimax is portable as compared to Streamyx or any internet service provide which using telephone line! Quote: The amax network will cover the entire Klang Valley by end 2008 To me P1 also same lah! They promised to cover the entire Damansara and some other places by end of this year. Recently, they have removed those places from their website. Correct me if i am wrong? But what you can say is Amax words ( The amax network will cover the entire Klang Valley by end 2008 ) is too much lah. It is definitely Impossible to cover the entire klang valley by 2008. However, currently they have no interest on klang valley. My friend who is working in Amax Company told me that they are actually focusing on Areas along the whole LDP highway rather than klang valley. Basically, what I am trying to say is they try not to interfere with P1 Areas loh… quote: That's the time Streamyx will go down the drain I would say like this: That's the time Streamyx will go down to HELL!!! For letting the Majority of Malaysian suffering from slow speed or problems.... 2. P1 didn't mention they have WiMAX coverage in Damansara. The WiMAX coverage is available on their website after the official launching and new location has been added in ever since. I know cause I check everyday to hope Cheras will be in there one day. I've seen from their website on their Wifi service in Damansara area only 3. If it's impossible for them to cover entire KV, then they should not talk cock on their website. LDP highway is also in Klang Valley. |
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Nov 26 2008, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 26 2008, 09:40 PM) 2. P1 didn't mention they have WiMAX coverage in Damansara. The WiMAX coverage is available on their website after the official launching and new location has been added in ever since. I know cause I check everyday to hope Cheras will be in there one day. I've seen from their website on their Wifi service in Damansara area only I also always check P1 website and also hoping for Wimax coverage will be in Damansara. I don't mind whether it is P1 or Amax. One time I remembered that I saw in P1 website having a small ad stating that P1 Wimax is coming to damansara soon..... And other places also by the end of 2008. Especially they mentioned Damansara, I was excited. But after they removed the Damansara “ with the Coming Soon status”, I feel kind of disappointed! Well, I guess need to wait again until somewhere in year 2009!Anyone remember under their Wimax coverage category, they have mentioned Damansara, and other places coming soon..... ??? Correct me if i am wrong again? Quote : If it's impossible for them to cover entire KV, then they should not talk cock on their website. Maybe their IT department people is not effectively on updating their website at all. Well, to me Amax website too suck and plain. No creativity at all!!! Really hardly got any news update or latest information’s. Oops, I forgot that some areas in KV are also along LDP highway!!! I think P1 is focusing their Wimax coverage around Federal highway loh <<< Not so sure, but I just guess only! Well, next time tire of Traffic Jam, can use your laptop inside your car surfing internet This post has been edited by kukujiaotm: Nov 27 2008, 03:02 AM |
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Nov 26 2008, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(kukujiaotm @ Nov 26 2008, 10:02 PM) I also always check P1 website and also hoping for Wimax coverage will be in Damansara. I don't mind whether it is P1 or Amax. One time I remembered that I saw in P1 website having a small ad stating that P1 is coming to damansara soon..... And other places also by the end of 2008. Especially they mentioned Damansara, I was excited. But after they removed the Damansara “ with the Coming Soon status”, I feel kind of disappointed! Well, I guess need to wait again until somewhere in year 2009! P1 Wifi already in DamansaraAnyone remember under their coverage category, they have mentioned Damansara, and other places coming soon..... ??? Correct me if i am wrong again? Quote : If it's impossible for them to cover entire KV, then they should not talk cock on their website. Maybe their IT department people is not effectively on updating their website at all. Well, to me Amax website too suck and plain. No creativity at all!!! Really hardly got any news update or latest information’s. Oops, I forgot that some areas in KV are also along LDP highway!!! I think P1 is focusing their Wimax coverage around Federal highway loh <<< Not so sure, but I just guess only! Well, next time tire of Traffic Jam, can use your laptop inside your car surfing internet http://www.p1.com.my/common/aspx/Coverage_ref.aspx But it's not P1 W1MAX. Surfing in car, wanna cause more jam huh? |
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Nov 27 2008, 01:20 AM
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Yes, what I mean is the P1 Wimax coverage in Damansara. P1 said that they will cover their Wimax in Damansara. I am somehow not mistaken that they mentioned about it before. Ok, let’s forget about that. Not so important lah! Small thing only!
Quote : Surfing in car, wanna cause more jam huh? You will never know by next year people will start inventing an autopilot car that can drive by itself Looking it in the other way, of cause the driver don't surf internet. Only the Passenger inside the car! Note: I have done some minor changes in my previous post as i think some people may not be clear what i am trying to say! This post has been edited by kukujiaotm: Nov 27 2008, 03:08 AM |
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Nov 27 2008, 04:15 AM
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Anyways, do you know how much will it cost for each package monthly if we don't want to commit to 1 year contract? Also, the jump from 1.5mbps to 2mbps is not worth it. Cost more than 200 more.
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Nov 27 2008, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(z3171600 @ Nov 27 2008, 04:15 AM) Anyways, do you know how much will it cost for each package monthly if we don't want to commit to 1 year contract? Also, the jump from 1.5mbps to 2mbps is not worth it. Cost more than 200 more. The 2Mbps is for business user not home user and it comes with USB and indoor CPE, two devices. I think the price is alright. Obvously AMAX is subsidizing the devices for the users, so contract is definitely inevitable. What likely will happen is that the user will sign up for the plan 1 month and not returning the device (MALAYSIAN will do that!). |
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