have official equipment standards. like football you have a certain size of ball with certain size of weight for official tournaments. like badminton your racket must not be lighter than a certain weight.

things like that.
that's what i mean when i say standard equipments.

without standardization, the sport has no prestige and therefore, normal ppl will look at it with one eye.

again like i said, it's damn hard since PC gaming world has no unified governing body like FIFA, BAM etc.

MTG got DCI. warhammer 40K got their codexs. DnD got their rulebooks.

a unified standard is a must for a sport/game to be accepted at a universal stage.

This post has been edited by technophile: Aug 22 2008, 02:34 AM

FIFA08 game... has it's rules and regulation... but if u want to use gamepad or keyboard? it's up to ur preference... singapore's WCG champ Xtreme uses keyboard in both WCG and CGS gaming competition. Gamers are given freedom to use whatever gaming devices they want, be it keyboard or gamepad.

that's why i said it's kinda bad. there's no standard equipments for the game.

imagine for 100m dash the runners can choose any equipments they want. i'm sure one random dude will come up with a anti matter spike shoes that somehow defy's the rule of gravity that provides him less body weight to push.

by having standard and official set of equipments, advantages can be eliminated thus making the field equal so that everyone has an equal chance to win.

O'rly? Then why some ppl can win with a yellowing old keyboard? It's not about the equipment. If the player is crap it does not matter what he/she uses. Standardised equipment will lead to more controversy. Gamers have preferences on what hardware they use. I won't want standardised equipment

u cant standardize equipment in esports. because its all about the players preference, especially for an FPS game, having a mouse they're comfortable using is important. they tried to do it but all the gamers & organisations went against it. no one has ever complained or gave an excuse saying he lost because he has cheaper eq compared to the other guy.

imo, you don't need latest expensive high end peripherals to be good.

as far as i know cs has a pretty much standardized ruleset. just little variations here and there

technophile : not flaming u or anything . cause i understand where you're coming from with these. but, may i know if you are competitive or just a normal gamer? its kinda hard to understand why we do what we do or play the way we play unless you're one of us.

This post has been edited by NecrosavaNt: Aug 22 2008, 07:42 AM

^ whatever he said

better equipment for WCG would be benificial for those without personal equipments..

(just a school of thought - if you want to join WCG and you are serious about it,usually serious gamers have their own equipment to make sure they can perform to their best without having to say my mouse not nice lah or keyboard like dog lah...that kind of thing rite?

like any sports and games,serious people commit serious sacrifices like buying equipments to make them perform better. its like buying new basketball shoes to be more comfortable in order to play basketball kind of thing. competition like this are for serious gamers.way i see it,people with equipment shows that they're serious"

comfortable is the word here. Do you see why the Starcraft players are reluctant to part with their old keyboards? It's because they have learn to accustom to them and cannot play without it. Same with FPS. Honestly I tried my friend's Razer and I hated it. If they want to standardize the equipment, then count me out. I won't join

Up until i bought my first Razer, i was running around with my Logitech G1. Never had any problem fragging on Battlefield with it.

Most of us gamers stick with what's comfortable for us.

This post has been edited by Aoshi_88: Aug 22 2008, 08:52 AM

CS has a standard ruleset but like Badminton and football players, everybody is allowed their own boots and shinpads, yes? Substitute that for mice and micepads.

nope, you can standarlize.

using same specs of PC, mouse and keyboard, but u allow to bring your own eq.

just like tennis or badminton players, they using thier own racket too.

Isn't this the same as what we have year after year?

i think we're going off the mark here. mice and keyboards are as standard as you get. i dont think we can standardize that any further, unless we go into more ludicrous rules like you must have 101 keys, you must have 3 buttons and such. but as for standardizing rules, i think that should be done. that way every competition follows the same rules (for example, no russian walking), and no one will be left hanging saying "no one told me it was allowed". cant think of anything else of the top of my head, if i do i'll add it later.

I have a button in my gamepad tat auto kick a ball...which will enter the goal with 80% chance after u cross ur opponent's half. And another button which will enable my keeper to save no matter what shots are given. That gamepad was in my DREAM~~~

Ask all the football players in the world... use all adidas predator sala only. 1st person to hunt u down will be the samseng rooney.

techno, no offense... at first ur argument was kinda having some basis... but now dah serong sikit... i also... *sighing* all de way... dude... chill la...

This post has been edited by ken0777: Aug 22 2008, 01:24 PM

i tried to be competitive, but the lack of standardization hinders me from goin further. thus i just stayed in the console realm. now i'm trying to be competitive again for COD4 since i love the game so much. it's something different from CS.

to have a standard rules for console game's competition is easy. because all console is built the same.

i agree on the equipment's level of comfort arguments you guys have brought up. but like i said, there must be a standard on it's shape, weight, keys (for keyboard), etc while not giving any advantage such as auto fire or anything.

having an official brand for those things (i dunno.. logitech maybe?) will be a good thing. similar to the tyre manufacturer for F1. while i dun agree that now only one company having the monopoly, the rules they they've used before this year is good.

if gamers and organizations have complaint about it. then like i say, no one in this world will take this sport seriously as the standard from one tournament changes to one another.

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Added on August 22, 2008, 2:44 pmbro, what i meant about "standard equipments" is not a same equipment to be used from one person to another. but rules about that certain piece of equipment regarding it's size, weight, DPI's (for mouse), keys (for keyboard), etc.

football's boots have a certain weight they must not go lower for. they have a certain rules about the front part of the boot. and the ball have certain sizes that can be used. the ball also must be around the allowed weight area before it can be used.

not standard by saying they must use the same thing thru out the world. but the "standard" must be there.

This post has been edited by technophile: Aug 22 2008, 02:44 PM

err...dude...1st time hearin boots got standardization... as far as i know the studs have to be of approved material only... so tat won't cause fatal injury while sliding. Ball....obviously la...coz all players playin the same ball... but the boots fact... i dun get it... as far as i know...kenot put spike metal studs la... lol! Puma boots are known to be one of the lightest boots compared to all other competitors... hehehe... but too bad nike now has mercurial vapor sl which is now the lightest boots out there... weighin 190 grams only...made out of carbon fiber which is used by c.ronaldo and d.drogba...the price 240 pounds...

This post has been edited by ken0777: Aug 22 2008, 03:21 PM

I fukken lol'ed. You should see the starcraft player's keyboard. Some came missing many keys. The thing is, the idea itself will be shot down by the very same ppl that you think you are trying to help, the gamers.
And besides, did you SEE the PC that was used for WCG? It has a logitech keyboard, that was utter CRAP. All of them.
Don't compare this to F1. F1 is a fukken joke already. All team hated the way FIA force them to use just one tyre manufacturer because it throws out competition between tyre maker, led to higher price but crappy piece of rubber that they are using. Indeed, there are more tyre failures during the time Bridgestone became the sole tyre manufacturer compared to the time it has to compete with Goodyear (1997-1998) or Michelin (2002-2006)

nuff said... kucing... mana kat town ade sambal petai best ah??? my area takde stall jual la...

jom we go to my house in kelantan for raya. got lots of sambal petai

kelanteh... nu...jauh~~~ tapao can??? hehehehe

can also lol.

anyways, I think we had enough discussion already about this. Might be time to drop it