shows how much you know..

No, it's the players

and what do you mean by that?

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Added on August 21, 2008, 5:19 ami was about to make another reference to the card game world in this.. but nahhh..

This post has been edited by technophile: Aug 21 2008, 05:19 AM

hmm good debate between nles and colin.haha
hearing nles,i cant wait to join ESWC next year its gonna be mega! lols

sounds like he got everything worked out and eswc gonna be a blast..woo cant wait *press fast forward button to 2009*

anybody here watched "War of the Servers"? for some reason, colin's loling reminds me of the zombies in that machinima.

please colin, for the love of everything thats good and right in the world, put some effort into sounding professional, and not going off tangent with insults. argue your points with some dignity, for crying out loud, cause you're pissing us off with your "Holier than thou" attitude. if we can all come to an understanding that might hopefully mean a better WCG for 2009. instead of just saying us gamers gave you "shitty problems", why not tell us about it nicely, to make us understand/see your POV?

Of course you can complain, everyone can make complain, but it's your job to educate gamers? and fact is you getting pay so dont complain we doesnt pay registration fees, not like you winning and losing anything. And it main sponsor paying for us, if in2 earning and pay you salary, we are still customer, it could consider main sponsor pay for us.
You saying something doesnt go through your mind.
and Life is unfair, we all know that.

Packing and unpacking, if you saying is crew job, talk to in2. Im sure they would saying next year onwards marshall will required to help packing and unpacking PC too.


Not i want to complain, all the post you reply make you look so .............. ( blank space for all your guys thinking, you guys can put ham sap, stupid, gay or whatever)

nles, extra paid pls. I pack those PC during ESWC since is crew's job.

kalo suma buat kerja, complain kurang, humble sikit, pandai sikit, pikir sikit, negara kito... dah maju 'banyak' macam amerika~~~

kalo tak buat kerja, complain banyak, sombong giler, pandai tak, pikir tak, negara kito... macam ni LAAAAA~~~~

i'm still tryin to look for the genius tat did the match board for WCG, brackets also not enuff, and cs got WALL-E's arm bracket... guess he's a WALL-E's super duper marvelous extravaganza fan...

as gamers, we should also be a bit professional in handling our complaints, even here on the forum, so that we dont provoke anyone's anger. perhaps for future reference, the organizers can take a look at the wiki article for double elimination, at least that way they can get a clear picture of how to draw the brackets, so that the game marshall's dont get confused as well. i know this cause the nfs marshall's were getting confused due to the way the brackets were drawn as well, and i know for a fact these guys were trying their best to make sure the matches went smoothly.

if you take a look at the wiki article, it clearly numbers the matches, that would also make scheduling the matches easier. i too would like to peddle my organizing skills, as technophile was doing earlier

if u say u apologize humbly, pls do so, cuz i dun sense any humbility in ur words at all. when u wanna end something, dun start something else by adding but but but and oh oh and and.. maybe u could try to talk a lil nicer, sound a lil professional.. why?cuz ure the host, we're the shitty gamers, u're the professionals ,u're working, if the job doesnt suit u, maybe u should consider quitting.
if u've done such a great job..why are there still so many complain?in ur position, u cant blame any1, even if u do, u should keep it to urself n not the public, u're the 1 whos working remember. always evaluate, figure out what went wrong and try to fix it. u still cant call shitty gamers, shitty gamers. talk nicely, ask for their cooperation, giv briefing & information earlier, and not on the LYN forum cuz not every1 knows this place, im sure all of the gamers would understand and cooperate. u c u ask ppl 9am come they came but what do they get in return

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Added on August 21, 2008, 12:31 pmu said about hard to get sponsor.if every year u attract less n less ppl, who *(&$@ still willing to sponsor? are we to blame?cuz we dun wanna go?

This post has been edited by Timber2k7: Aug 21 2008, 12:31 PM

We come at 9am to get the "lantai simen" treatment laaaaa~~~

My theory goes like this, we were told to come as early as 9am so that we the gamers like as pawns we are...will filled up the hall, so that when the VIP give ucapan during opening ceremony, there's people laaaaa~~~

Looks pretty bad ma when VIP does the opening ceremony with an empty exhibition hall... coz game only start at 11.30~12.00pm ma...

If they tell us 11.30am only start, hell yeah... i'll come at 11.30 la... (i'm so eviiiilllll~~~)

Goodie bags collection are just a luring mental game so that people will come early to fill up the hall (Good also ask ppl come early...coz malaysia's timing...always say 9 o clock but ppl only come at 11am)... and not to forget giv Midvalley some business... we makan there ma...

ps. McD untung la... i see so many of them tapao McD to hall... eat at the super-duper marvelous cement table... opps "floor" with eyes so sleepy... look so tired... hahaha... i was seeing this chap sitting and waiting on the cement floor... i felt so pity of that chap... den after 1 hour of standing, i gave up...I JOIN THE "LANTAI SIMEN" CLUB!!!

"Why soooOooooOo~~~ Serrioouss!!?"

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Added on August 21, 2008, 1:01 pm

This was last year's FIFA grouping bracket... wow so nice... so proper... got time written also. Btw, all in there was 8 groups so it's a total of 128 slots... and notice that all results were written nice nice even in day 1.

ps. someone who has the photo for this year's FIFA grouping bracket, plz upload la... sadly i dun have it... *din bring camera on tat day... ^^

This post has been edited by ken0777: Aug 21 2008, 01:01 PM

Thx!!!
Well, So far the result still very confusing...
I'll wait till the overall reports out @@.

How abt the photo gallery?
How can i get into it? Since the official web doesnt upload anything inside there.

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Added on August 21, 2008, 1:20 pmLOL!!! Agreed...
But then after i redeem the goodies bag i straight away go mcd and sit for awhile. Since last year i suffer the same thing.
Aiks! they should make the open ceremony around "break-time" like that so outsiders and gamers can menikmati the open ceremony mar...
Cmon man, give others know abt WCG more instead of doing kick-off event.


Haiz, gotta respect ni... N gain the SPIRIT...Saluteee~~~

Mcd is our only choice at there, other stuff are so expensive... I remember that day i go tabao chicken rice and makan kat "simen floor"... That chicken rice cost me around RM5-6 like that.
(Too bad lar, the best food court in MidValley closed down...Which is "Oasis")

P/S : Did u see me and 2 of my friend sitting at the simen floor and enjoying our chicken rice on that day? Yea, that ME!!!!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by kukuweng: Aug 21 2008, 01:20 PM

emm..kukuweng r u study at taman connaught?
last year u join star craft?

Yea, taman connaught students...Hehe!~
Nop, last year i join CNC3

Why so serious you all? ^^ ..

First of all, i really wish to say thank you to everyone. Thank you all for your suggestions, your complains, your feedback. Therefore, we will be able to improve year by year.

However, i believe it's time to put a full stop here since it's over for like 4days. Enough of blaming, complaining, and so on. There's no point to point at others and blame them anymore. You all can just blame me, complain me. That's fine. Because it is my fault for not guiding them properly. So ya, here i am. Just scold me or whatever you want. i don't really mind, on the other way, i will thank you for letting me know where i should change where i should improve more on.

I fully understand how you all feel. I also like to accomodate you all as much as i can. Because i also don't wish ppl complain about us. But, sometimes there's limit. I do what i can do right? For those who knows, did i not try my best to try to help you all? I am not trying to say i am great or what, but i already did what i can.

However, if you all want, you can send mail send whatever you like to say to me, just give me what you hope to see nxt year, what you wish, give me suggestions, of course i cannot promise or guarantee it will 100% come true but at least i can try my best.

So i wish there's a full stop on this. After all, we all also hope to have a better WCG right? Don't need to personally flame each others one. don't just because of a WCG, a 3days event tournament become enemy, right? It's not worth it. Whatever not right, we also can discuss till it becomes right, correct or not? Why dont we all just be friends instead of becoming enemies?

Later next year, you see me again, i see you again, then you sure feel oh fu*k man, this guy again, then how? So you see, there's still a year, why dont just let us all coorperate with each others, and to have a better WCG? Right? Of course, this is not just depending on the Organizer, there are a lot others to depend on as well. So if you put the blame just on organizer, it's very unfair to the Organizer right?

Organizer tried their best, have to go here and there to look for sponsors, stay late, doing extra work, proposal, trying to accomodate everyone, however, in return what did they get? Can you all just be fair to them a little bit? Is that too much for you all?

Thank you all. I really wish this is the end.

A very "diplomatic" way of approach.
I think with ur statement, u have probably quench half of the burning comments.
I do believe with what u have said, organizer have done their best (although it might not been enough under circumstances)

I think what most gamers wanted were to see their event organizer for WCG can improve from a Grade B- to a Grade A+ events.
Hopefully, all these feed backs can improve WCG.MY 2009.

This post has been edited by CityLife: Aug 21 2008, 05:15 PM

very professional.

anyway. we complain because we care. we aren't attacking anyone. we want the e-sports community & events as a whole to improve.

yeah good reply Naka. You just earned my respect.

like Necro said,we complain because we care and didnt mean to attack anyone. I for one am a big fan of malaysian esport community and would like to see it improves up to a level where real gamers can make it a profession.

Its just that some of the things we said needs saying clearly and I certainly think it have captured your attention. Some things mentioned here doesnt require fundings from organisers or what if you take a close look.Its more towards dedication of the organisers instead to work the extra mile because we gamers..remember all the good things you guys have done for us.

WCG 2009 here we come!

hats off to you mate!

i agree in what you said. stop blame the gamers if the event is not enticing. take initiative to plant seeds of interest in new players. ppl who haven't picked up this hobby needs to know the potential of the event and the possible outcome.

again, i'm in no position to comment about the marshalls, but to me, if someone were to judge an event, he/she must have a VERY DEEP understanding of the game, the rules, even the tiny bits that can jeopardize the game.

i know again, it's bad for me to compare this with MTG, but from what i see and heard, PC gaming needs a universal governing body to make sure all the rules are standardized and laws are being followed.

not only MTG has this, but i think all the games and sports have it. it's iffy that PC gaming doesn't have a set of standard rules that need to be followed.

on top of my head is : standard PC configurations, standard mouse and keyboard (reason : players who cannot afford Razer (or other gaming mouse) has disadvantages over ppl who has it), standard LCD monitor (response time, Gamma settings), and standard version of the game (this is the most basic).

seeing one tourney go for CSS and one tourney go for CS 1.6 is just bad. shows to the world that the PC gaming world is not serious.

This post has been edited by technophile: Aug 22 2008, 12:48 AM

techno that would be a bit hard to impliment your idea on standardised equipment becasue i would be against the motion.lol

sure ppl cant afford the equipment but like all hobbies,serious people spend serious money to get serious on it XD.I saved alot of money for this hobby of mine.

naka,please reply we want to hear you! haha