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crashtec
post Aug 22 2008, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(AeonStrife @ Aug 22 2008, 07:07 PM)
way to go brian ^^
awating the settings ^^V

cant wait

waiting anxiously ^^
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omg, i just replied and 2 seconds later you reply de.. this is not MSN Messenger laaaaaaaa...

zzz
Go eat dinner and get off the PC laaaa
marvintwj
post Aug 22 2008, 07:16 PM

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What the point is...


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INTERNATIONAL RULES. IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY CHECK WHICH I'M SURE YOU HAVEN'T CAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T BE WHINING HERE, NO 3 COMPETITIONS OVERSEAS HAVE USED THE SAME RULES. THE ONLY "MOD" WHICH HAS BEEN USED IS PAM4 AND THE PROMOD WHICH IS A BETA TO PAM4.

THERE ARE NO STANDARD INTERNATIONAL RULES. I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT CRASHTEC WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME PLEASE START UP YOUR OWN TOURNEY AND TALK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SET UP TOURNEYS OVERSEAS.

And now we return you to your regular thread time.


your caps lock key spoil? looks like you are shouting...hmmm?

dont raise your voice, improve your arguement....

This post has been edited by marvintwj: Aug 22 2008, 07:18 PM
nightmarej4ck
post Aug 22 2008, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 22 2008, 07:05 PM)
I would prefer if malaysian have their own standards. But i will not diss the regional SnD standards tho.

I would like to absorb the SnD standards in OUR snd, but still would like to play other game modes. But the number of game modes might be reduced, especially by removing HQ, since it has been rated imba by some players. It is however, possible to have more than one game mode in WGT, depending on how people vote during the meeting.

Remember that the WGT will be fixed according to what you all vote for, so long as it is plausible and agreed upon.

Also, i will most likely be doing the server settings, but i will release the settings once its done so teams can train with them. Obviously it will be tested first to ensure it doesnt farkap during the tourney smile.gif

I never changed anything for any RnR, most decisions were made by captains and finalized by the organizers. My influence only got so far as suggesting an alternative to apply your ideas, which is usually easier to accept than a total change of a system. Remember that, no matter what we say in the meeting, it is the organizers and sponsors who agree with the settings. If they dont agree, it doesnt matter what we say.

We are lucky organizers of these events have been very open. That is also why our response in Malaysia is far better than other countries, which is also why I would like to bring us to a better direction where rulesets are concerned.

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alright i play any rules that Majority decide...SALUTE!~
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post Aug 22 2008, 08:58 PM

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IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL


Guys there are a few things all of you should know.

1st of all. Committee decided to break the news now and not later. The MAIN purpose of this event is to raise funds for 2 charity homes. I will provide the details of these charities as soon as i can confirm it with my lecturer. As all of you should know, The SCG08 committee is made of of 100% students from sunway university college. This event is actually a project that we have to complete before October @@.

2nd. NewEra is now our sponsor and im glad to say that we might increase the prize money for both COD4 events.

3rd. DotA competitions are to be held on the 6th Saturday. and COD4 categories FFA n TEAM are to be held on the 7th. Details will be release shortly

4th. We are most likely are to set up a website for all updates latest news etc etc . the webpage will be given out shortly.

5th. GUYS I NEED ALL OF YOU TO COOPERATE AND PLEASE SUBMIT AND COMPLETE PAYMENTS BEFORE 31st AUGUST.

To complete payments you can :

arrange for WALK IN PAYMENT to
Jason Philip Tham 012 699 6926

or

pay directly to Sunway Rock Cafe @ Jln Pjs 11/20 Bandar Sunway.

Please keep your attention here for the time being.

REMINDER AGAIN

PLEASE COMPLETE ALL PAYMENTS AND SUBMISSION OF FORMS BEFORE 31st OR YOUR RESERVATION WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY CANCELED
ryohiko
post Aug 22 2008, 09:04 PM

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yeay!! prize increase on cod4 !! w00t~! $.$ jackpot! hahahaha

j00kiE
post Aug 22 2008, 09:08 PM

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YES!! SUNDAY!!! WOO
bluesoul
post Aug 22 2008, 09:11 PM

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why no wc3 and sc?
Sanction
post Aug 22 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(marvintwj @ Aug 22 2008, 07:16 PM)
your caps lock key spoil? looks like you are shouting...hmmm?

dont raise your voice, improve your arguement....
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Looks like you didn't read the post.

Please try to make it for the meeting so it can be explained in detail.
OctoberRaz
post Aug 22 2008, 10:26 PM

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DUDE finally theres an SC guy in here. YES!!!. i wish i could put starcraft in but there arent enough players to begin the competition with.
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post Aug 23 2008, 12:04 AM

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Why are they banning UAV and Skorpion? cry.gif
It wouldn't hurt to have a mini primary weapon unsure.gif
[ESP].Ashley
post Aug 23 2008, 12:58 AM

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OctoberRaz, the front page hasn't been updated yet. The new R&R hasn't been updated into the drop down menu.
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post Aug 23 2008, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE([ESP�)
.Ashley,Aug 23 2008, 12:58 AM]
OctoberRaz, the front page hasn't been updated yet. The new R&R hasn't been updated into the drop down menu.
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unfortunately, october doesn't have access to juz_mark's account.
neither do i. so we currently are unable to update the first page.
juz_mark is finding time to update it now.
sorry for the inconvenience to all.

ps. patience is a virtue xP


Added on August 23, 2008, 1:12 am
QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 20 2008, 06:12 PM)
The poll is closed now. and the votes have been counted.

Majority votes this Malaysian (edited) RnR
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

So this is final. we will use this R n R for the tournament. FFA players please refer to this

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

this is for anyone that is left out on the current COD4 tourney rules. biggrin.gif
and just another reminder, FFA for COD4 is now RM30 per person thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by Zephrus: Aug 23 2008, 01:12 AM
crashtec
post Aug 23 2008, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Zephrus @ Aug 23 2008, 01:05 AM)
unfortunately, october doesn't have access to juz_mark's account.
neither do i. so we currently are unable to update the first page.
juz_mark is finding time to update it now.
sorry for the inconvenience to all.

ps. patience is a virtue xP


Added on August 23, 2008, 1:12 am
this is for anyone that is left out on the current COD4 tourney rules.  biggrin.gif
and just another reminder, FFA for COD4 is now RM30 per person  thumbup.gif
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Hmm, organizers please take note that you might not have enough time to do both FFA and Team games on the same day. I suggest running all games on the same day, while finishing finals the next day.
Or Run the Team games up till Semis on the first day, then finish up FFA and Finals on sunday.
U could do this for both Dota and COD4/


Added on August 23, 2008, 1:23 am
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Aug 23 2008, 12:04 AM)
Why are they banning UAV and Skorpion? cry.gif
It wouldn't hurt to have a mini primary weapon unsure.gif
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Skorpion is not banned in this tourney.

Skorpion ban is for TWL PAM4.

This post has been edited by crashtec: Aug 23 2008, 01:23 AM
Zephrus
post Aug 23 2008, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 23 2008, 01:21 AM)
Hmm, organizers please take note that you might not have enough time to do both FFA and Team games on the same day. I suggest running all games on the same day, while finishing finals the next day.
Or Run the Team games up till Semis on the first day, then finish up FFA and Finals on sunday.
U could do this for both Dota and COD4/
Woah fast reply..
Alright. Taken into consideration.
I'll discuss with others tmr. TY biggrin.gif
crashtec
post Aug 23 2008, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(t3quila @ Aug 22 2008, 12:46 PM)
International rules please.
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Tai lo.. there is no international rules... :/

Unless you can prove to the community there is one, i would gladly put it up.

Firstly, you all have a misconception that SnD is the International Rule. I can tell you that, unless you have had experience with international games, PAM4 itself is the only standard in COD4. In fact, some countries use PROMOD, which is stupidly close to CS. The rest of the world do NOT play only SnD, they also play TDM, Sabotage and Domination. Each competition, server and ruleset have different server settings. If this was a standard, i would have used it long ago.

The only reason why you'd want to play ONLY SnD is because a lot of people are trying to make it close to CS, pull CS players over because COD4 in other countries are actully lacking players and clans. I believe a lot of former CS player want an easy cross over, most likely something to brag about "i beat the best COD4 team, and i dont even play the game!" type of shit.

I dread this, since i left cs because it was dull. I don't want this game to be like CS, it shouldn't be. By taking away perks and weapons, you turn this game into something less than CS. CS has an economy, something that does not exist here in COD4, albeit being a little silly (why would Counter-terrorists bring money to a mission?) I do not really understand why people would want to turn a Warfare game into a Counter-Terrorist game. There's CSS, go to it. Clearly, the name states "Modern Warfare".

Eventually people who play COD4 to PLAY COD4 will turn to COD5, which in time will eventually kill COD4 in the future. Then some moron will try turn COD5 into CS, which will also eventually kill the game. Learn something new, if you keep doing the same things, you get the same results. As technology gets better, people will start drifting towards better graphics, better gameplay and eventually better systems.

Why do i foresee this? Look at CS now, how CSS is trying its best to accomadate and kill CS1.6. You may not see this as players, in fact, all these are backroom politics..

Unlike CS, COD4's current "International Rules" disables a lot of things, which in my humble opinion, wastes this games potential. You dont see CS disabling guns and items.

Unless you can make it different, you cannot compete with the likes of other upcoming FPS games, in fact, you make it the same as older games.

This post has been edited by crashtec: Aug 23 2008, 01:40 AM
[ESP].Ashley
post Aug 23 2008, 05:00 AM

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Well said.
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post Aug 23 2008, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 22 2008, 08:58 PM)
IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL
Guys there are a few things all of you should know.

1st of all. Committee decided to break the news now and not later. The MAIN purpose of this event is to raise funds for 2 charity homes. I will provide the details of these charities as soon as i can confirm it with my lecturer. As all of you should know, The  SCG08 committee is made of of 100% students from sunway university college. This event is actually a project that we have to complete before October @@.

2nd. NewEra is now our sponsor and im glad to say that we might increase the prize money for both COD4 events.

3rd. DotA competitions are to be held on the 6th Saturday. and COD4 categories FFA n TEAM are to be held on the 7th. Details will be release shortly

4th. We are most likely are to set up a website for all updates latest news etc etc . the webpage will be given out shortly.

5th. GUYS I NEED ALL OF YOU TO COOPERATE AND PLEASE SUBMIT AND COMPLETE PAYMENTS BEFORE 31st AUGUST.

To complete payments you can :

arrange for WALK IN PAYMENT to
Jason Philip Tham 012 699 6926

or

pay directly to Sunway Rock Cafe @ Jln Pjs 11/20 Bandar Sunway.

Please keep your attention here for the time being.

REMINDER AGAIN

PLEASE COMPLETE ALL PAYMENTS AND SUBMISSION OF FORMS BEFORE 31st OR YOUR RESERVATION WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY CANCELED
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1. Charity, hmm, good to know that gamers have a heart of gold! .tongue.gif
2. Yes, New Era is involved. Expect more money just nothing with 6 zeros.
3. Do not split the tournaments. have both tournaments run at the same time to the quarter finals and then continuing on the 2nd day. did you guys forget what i told you?
4. quick quick.
6. don't be a lame ass, everyone get there and do your bit for charity!
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post Aug 23 2008, 11:42 AM

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@.@ Okay... But can you bring CoD back to its roots? To be honest, I never liked SnD for CoD4 itself. I'm more of a domination lover(watafak sounds wrong).

I've seen CoD2 Matches in the old days. They were really a change from CS:S. Spectacular and Tactical at the same time so to say. To add more to the topic, CoD4 was "meant" to compete against the CS gameplay, ever so since they made a SnD mode.

HQ is random and TDM is pointless. Neither of those game modes are suitable for spectator-ship and any level of competitive gaming. Conclusion, Domination for CoD Junkies and SnD for tactical players. *NO HARDCORE, Geez.. How many times must I mention that lol.

Plz Plz Plz Plz!!! drool.gif SnD & Domination. Btw u can't use Sabotage cuz its phoqued up.

Just a suggestion for future events.

This post has been edited by t3quila: Aug 23 2008, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(t3quila @ Aug 23 2008, 11:42 AM)
@.@ Okay... But can you bring CoD back to its roots? To be honest, I never liked SnD for CoD4 itself. I'm more of a domination lover(watafak sounds wrong).

I've seen CoD2 Matches in the old days. They were really a change from CS:S. Spectacular and Tactical at the same time so to say. To add more to the topic, CoD4 was "meant" to compete against the CS gameplay, ever so since they made a SnD mode.

HQ is random and TDM is pointless. Neither of those game modes are suitable for spectator-ship and any level of competitive gaming. Conclusion, Domination for CoD Junkies and SnD for tactical players. *NO HARDCORE, Geez.. How many times must I mention that lol.

Plz Plz Plz Plz!!!  drool.gif  SnD & Domination. Btw u can't use Sabotage cuz its phoqued up.

Just a suggestion for future events.
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Actually, it has been said that Domination be part of International events, this was pointed out by shoutcasters Tobi while i was in singapore.
They believe Dom is tactical, if the server settings are correct.

Also, i've always wanted to have a 1 per class competition, where each team can only have 1 per class, 1 assault, 1 specs, 1 demo, 1 sniper and 1 mg. This way, you dont need to limit the perks or weapons, since they are tied to the classes.

It was fun when we used to play default smile.gif

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