QUOTE(alabais @ Aug 1 2008, 10:01 AM)
What gear u use ?RPM reading @ 110km/h, survey
RPM reading @ 110km/h, survey
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Aug 1 2008, 10:03 AM
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Aug 1 2008, 10:03 AM
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Kelisa (M) 1.0
3000rpm @ 110km/h |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(LeVis_Jeans @ Aug 1 2008, 09:59 AM) I feels that there is no difference in term of FC while cruising at 110km/h and 14km/h. Several CPS user also confirmed this. QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 1 2008, 10:02 AM) You are wrong. It will not change. Your speedo comes from your gearbox. It is fixed. Changing the size of the wheel will not change the readings on your speedo meter. It does not matter whether you change to 20inch. If the rpm is 3000rpm at 110km/h on the respective tacho and speedo meter, it will remain at 3000rpm at 110km/h even if you change it to 20inch (even though you are travelling at 130km/h). Correct. Only the actual speed will change when changing rims size. Can try to googled cars bible and use the provieded calculator to see how much the difference.You have to remember that there are always 2 speeds. 1. KM/H on speedo meter (this cannot change as it is a fixed reading from the gearbox) 2. KM/H actual speed (this will change depending on the OD of your wheel) What we are talking here is the reading on the speedo and tacho meter. Actual speed aka real speed aka speed captured by speed camera will change but not the reading on the speedo and tacho. |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:07 AM
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sleepwalker: can you explain a bit what is "clutch is slipping" ? Clutch want finish already, no teeth ?
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Aug 1 2008, 10:11 AM
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i wanna ask.. i driving Kancil 850 Auto, RPM is maintain 3k when i was on 80km/h, is count normal or got problem? full tank RM60, can only go for 200+ km, count as normal??
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Aug 1 2008, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Aug 1 2008, 10:07 AM) sleepwalker: can you explain a bit what is "clutch is slipping" ? Clutch want finish already, no teeth ? The clutch has no teeth. The clutch disc has materials similar to the brake pads. Once that wears out, it starts to slip. Engine crankshaft -> Flywheel -> Clutch -> gearbox. IF clutch is working then.. 3000rpm at crank -> 3000rpm at flywheel -> 3000rpm clutch -> 3000rpm gearbox If clutch slipping then 3000rpm at crank -> 3000rpm at flywheel -> 2500rpm clutch (slipping, can't hold on to flywheel) -> 2500rpm gearbox. THis is just a rough explanation. Go google for full explanation. This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Aug 1 2008, 10:15 AM babisotong liked this post
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Aug 1 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Aug 1 2008, 10:11 AM) i wanna ask.. i driving Kancil 850 Auto, RPM is maintain 3k when i was on 80km/h, is count normal or got problem? full tank RM60, can only go for 200+ km, count as normal?? your car engine 850cc only mah. cant get high speeds. at high speeds, u pushing the engine too far and this means higher fuel consumption my old iswara was about 3.1k @ 110km/h. |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 1 2008, 10:06 AM) I feels that there is no difference in term of FC while cruising at 110km/h and 14km/h. Several CPS user also confirmed this. I using campro Correct. Only the actual speed will change when changing rims size. Can try to googled cars bible and use the provieded calculator to see how much the difference. I also tried before...if i run over 130-160kmh (RPM stick at 3.5-4k). Only can run over 480KM per tank. If drive slow slow 90KMH (RPM only 2.5-2.7k). I can run over 550KM per tank. This post has been edited by LeVis_Jeans: Aug 1 2008, 10:19 AM |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Aug 1 2008, 10:15 AM) your car engine 850cc only mah. cant get high speeds. at high speeds, u pushing the engine too far and this means higher fuel consumption oh.. that means is normal de la? cause really feel like high fuel comsumption =.= i thought kancil should be save fuel de ma =.= my old iswara was about 3.1k @ 110km/h. |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(LeVis_Jeans @ Aug 1 2008, 10:18 AM) I using campro haha of course ler. lower rpm = lower engine power = less fuel consumtion lor I also tried before...if i run over 130-160kmh (RPM stick at 3.5-4k). Only can run over 480KM per tank. If drive slow slow 90KMH (RPM only 2.5-2.7k). I can run over 550KM per tank. QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Aug 1 2008, 10:20 AM) oh.. that means is normal de la? cause really feel like high fuel comsumption =.= i thought kancil should be save fuel de ma =.= erm i'm not sure lah but coz your engine capacity is small, thus cant go higher speeds ler. i think its efficient if u stay below 90km/h and city driving n stuff. thats what i know. unless the pro's here can explain better |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 1 2008, 10:06 AM) I feels that there is no difference in term of FC while cruising at 110km/h and 14km/h. Several CPS user also confirmed this. FOr a moment there I thought you wrote 14km/h.. wait.. you did write 14km/h but you meant 140km/h right?Correct. Only the actual speed will change when changing rims size. Can try to googled cars bible and use the provieded calculator to see how much the difference. There would be a diffence. The other CPS users are wrong. For most road cars that is not aerodynamic in shape (like those lambo/Ferrari type), wind resistance becomes your number 1 fuel comsumption killer. For most cars, max efficiency is gain around 90-100km/h where the best rpm to speed ratio is gain and wind resistance is not an issue. Any slower and the rpm to speed ratio is no longer efficient as you take longer to reach your destination and any higher speed would encounter wind resistance that will require more fuel to keep the car running at that speed. |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 1 2008, 10:25 AM) For most cars, max efficiency is gain around 90-100km/h where the best rpm to speed ratio is gain and wind resistance is not an issue. Any slower and the rpm to speed ratio is no longer efficient as you take longer to reach your destination and any higher speed would encounter wind resistance that will require more fuel to keep the car running at that speed. i thought maybe around 70-80km/h would be better?are u sure its not? of course driving styles play an important role too. but comparitively, driving at 70km/h vs 90km/h, it wont save fuel to drive slower? |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 1 2008, 09:42 AM) Added on August 1, 2008, 9:44 am Wrong. Rusty nail is correct. Your RPM per KM/H on your dashboard will still remain the same. The only thing that will change is your actual speed and not speedo speed, meaning if the police shoots the laser camera at you, then you will be driving at 120km/h but speed still show 110km/h. That is how bigger wheel OD will affect you. It will not affect your speedo but affects your actual speed. i'm a good citizen..dun wan to be caught by police |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:35 AM
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3k rpm @ 100km/h 3/5k rpm @ 120km/h 4k rpm @ 140km/h IF IM NOT MISTAKEN LA |
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Aug 1 2008, 10:36 AM
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The common fuel efficiency gauge is on 90km/h at RPM 2k. That's the myth.
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Aug 1 2008, 10:42 AM
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Aug 1 2008, 10:45 AM
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Aug 1 2008, 10:54 AM
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sleepwalker: thanks for the info
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Aug 1 2008, 11:01 AM
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Aug 1 2008, 11:06 AM
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from my experience
i used to drive mazda 929 wif 2.0v6 engine auto it cruise at 110km/h wif 2k rpm if not mistaken as now driving S/neo also auto but 1.6 in the speed of 110km/h i think the rpm is above 3k since 80km/h adi need 2.5k rpm adi -.- should b looking for the power of the engine instead of juz rpm i guess |
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