ade.. nt sy PMed awk...
Club LYN Bowling V2, Versi Bebola Batu Putaran Alam Semesta!
Club LYN Bowling V2, Versi Bebola Batu Putaran Alam Semesta!
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Apr 22 2010, 12:14 PM
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159 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: Sungai Petani... |
ade.. nt sy PMed awk...
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Apr 22 2010, 05:31 PM
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14 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
xde topic baru ke tntg teknik2 hook yg betol..step ke..ade kate yg 5 stepok dr 4..
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Apr 22 2010, 05:46 PM
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steps depending on your style.. some play 4 step some play 5 steps.. some can play 10 steps..
I tell you 4 and 5 steps only lah.. because these two are the main ones.. 4 step ball speed is usually slower than 5 step ball speed.. 5 step has more momentum as you go with your steps compared to 4 step.. I relaly have no idea for those ppl who has 10 steps.. |
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Apr 22 2010, 06:39 PM
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14 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
owh yeke...sebab sy men 4 steps je..bola x mantap laa ekk?sebab bile sy hook bola tue,bile kene pin msuk poket, tp impak die x kuat...knape ekk?
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Apr 22 2010, 06:50 PM
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159 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: Sungai Petani... |
maybe sbb release x kena...
bola x rotate x ckup.. or kadang2 maybe sbb bola tu... bola yg kita guna pun kena ambil kira gak.. |
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Apr 22 2010, 09:55 PM
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there is alot of other possibility.. ball speed not enough.. you axis rotation is not enough.. your release is not good.. your pocket hit is not good.. or your ball is just not gripping the lanes and pins properly... put up a video of you then I can tell what is wrong..
since u r in batu pahat.. I cant go down there and watch u bowl.. I help you keep the ball rolling.. to hook properly.. you need to see your release and your ball drillings.. lets leave out the drilling.. to hook a ball there is 3 types of release.. 1. 0 axis rotation which means u just release with your hand behind your ball all the way up.. if you found your PAP.. the PAP point will be facing the left wall.. 2. 45 degree axis rotation which means you release the ball with your fingers at 4-5 o'clock position... if you found your PAP.. the PAP point will be facing 45 degrees out.. 3. 90 degree axis rotation which means you release the ball with your fingers at 3 o'clock position.. if you found your PAP.. the PAP point will be staring directly at you.. the 0 axis rotation has the least amount of hook because it depends mainly on the ball's core.. 45 degree is more common because its easy to release and everyone seems to be doing it.. its easier to control also.. 90 degree is mostly for power players.. budak cranker.. 90 degree gives you the most hook.. but if you dont know how to control it.. its very very hard to control the hook.. ok.. the axis rotation part is done.. now to have a more powerful hook.. you need revs.. you need to cup the ball and flick it while you release it. so that you ball will start rolling at extremely crazy speed.. the more revs you have.. the more powerful your hook is.. if your revs is above 300rpm and you have a 4 1/2" to 5" pin to PAP drilling.. your ball will have an extremely sharp backend.. it will just snap into the pocket.. sometimes your hook will be like skid then hook then mati(as in roll into the pocket.. not hook into it).. the reason being is that mostly the lane is not oily enough or your release is wrong.. if lane is not oily you need to polish your ball.. if your release is wrong.. you must push the ball when you release it.. so when you release, you must do 3 things.. do it all after the ball passes your ankle! cup, push, and flick! remember that your hand must be behind your ball until you reach your ankle.. there is one more part to this.. which is the axis tilt.. that one next time I explain lah.. I need to go out.. This post has been edited by NeoSquall: Apr 22 2010, 10:09 PM |
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Apr 22 2010, 10:11 PM
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1,695 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ampang |
QUOTE(NeoSquall @ Apr 22 2010, 09:55 PM) there is alot of other possibility.. ball speed not enough.. you axis rotation is not enough.. your release is not good.. your pocket hit is not good.. or your ball is just not gripping the lanes and pins properly... put up a video of you then I can tell what is wrong.. wow bro... you really know about bowling... since u r in batu pahat.. I cant go down there and watch u bowl.. I help you keep the ball rolling.. to hook properly.. you need to see your release and your ball drillings.. lets leave out the drilling.. to hook a ball there is 3 types of release.. 1. 0 axis rotation which means u just release with your hand behind your ball all the way up.. if you found your PAP.. the PAP point will be facing the left wall.. 2. 45 degree axis rotation which means you release the ball with your fingers at 4-5 o'clock position... if you found your PAP.. the PAP point will be facing 45 degrees out.. 3. 90 degree axis rotation which means you release the ball with your fingers at 3 o'clock position.. if you found your PAP.. the PAP point will be staring directly at you.. the 0 axis rotation has the least amount of hook because it depends mainly on the ball's core.. 45 degree is more common because its easy to release and everyone seems to be doing it.. its easier to control also.. 90 degree is mostly for power players.. budak cranker.. 90 degree gives you the most hook.. but if you dont know how to control it.. its very very hard to control the hook.. ok.. the axis rotation part is done.. now to have a more powerful hook.. you need revs.. you need to cup the ball and flick it while you release it. so that you ball will start rolling at extremely crazy speed.. the more revs you have.. the more powerful your hook is.. if your revs is above 300rpm and you have a 4 1/2" to 5" pin to PAP drilling.. your ball will have an extremely sharp backend.. it will just snap into the pocket.. sometimes your hook will be like skid then hook then mati(as in roll into the pocket.. not hook into it).. the reason being is that mostly the lane is not oily enough or your release is wrong.. if lane is not oily you need to polish your ball.. if your release is wrong.. you must push the ball when you release it.. so when you release, you must do 3 things.. do it all after the ball passes your ankle! cup, push, and flick! remember that your hand must be behind your ball until you reach your ankle.. there is one more part to this.. which is the axis tilt.. that one next time I explain lah.. I need to go out.. where u usually play? got team ka? bole join? |
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Apr 23 2010, 12:46 AM
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haha.. use to be very very into bowling.. stop for 6yrs then now start bowling again..
I use to play in sunway.. no team.. just started end of last year after long absence.. |
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Apr 23 2010, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(NeoSquall @ Apr 23 2010, 12:46 AM) haha.. use to be very very into bowling.. stop for 6yrs then now start bowling again.. ic ic... same case liao... long time stop coz working and no geng, now only start back... I use to play in sunway.. no team.. just started end of last year after long absence.. wanted to look for a team for competition and learning purposes... btw, sunway pro shop got many choices ka for balls? |
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Apr 23 2010, 11:07 AM
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14 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
ok2 bro neosqull....thanx..nnti sy attached video sy men....hohoho...serius nak blaja nie..nak wakil uia...sy stdy kt uia gombak..nnti leh laa train sy..
Added on April 23, 2010, 11:41 amok bang,,,sy ade attached video sy men....strike...tp nampak klakar...mybe sbab step n lutut sy ade injured time silat dulu..lutut x brape kuat sgt..tp mkin ok...tlg kmen ape silap sye.. nie link nye.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFU9PKEXdw view kat you tube ek. This post has been edited by neutral88: Apr 23 2010, 11:42 AM |
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Apr 23 2010, 03:28 PM
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there is a problem with your release.. you are turning the ball before reaching your ankle.. all the turns must be after your ankle.. tangan ko mesti di belakang bola b4 kaki ko.. and also.. you are dropping your ball.. release after your ankle.. not at your ankle or before..
if your ball speed is a concern.. then I might suggest you increase you backswing.. since you using ur guard.. you dont need to cup the ball or flick.. I might suggest you to "pull" the ball with you fingers when you release it.. just imagine you pulling up the ball with ur fingers.. increase some revs.. sunway pro shop has a variety of STORM products.. if u love your bowling ball to smell sweet and u love storm.. then go sunway.. haha.. This post has been edited by NeoSquall: Apr 23 2010, 03:30 PM |
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Apr 23 2010, 03:45 PM
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14 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
mcm tu ekk...mcm mane kite nak bajet release tu? n backswing tu mcm mne bro?
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Apr 23 2010, 03:53 PM
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377 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: FRIM |
QUOTE(neutral88 @ Apr 21 2010, 04:17 PM) nak tnye, sesape pnah nampak brand bola bowling nie n nak thu ape material die dan dr company mane.. bg semua info yg ada kat bola tu. semua tulisan, lambang, no siri. amik gambo semua tu dan post kek sinibola nie saye wat pkai men hook..waris dari abah bola nie..mintak tlg otai seantero malaya ekk..thanx.. QUOTE(gmorque @ Apr 21 2010, 04:32 PM) meaning kalau length tinggi n breakpoint shape pun tinggi memang kena main dalam sikit ler kot.. means that kita kena main bukak so that angle tu akan masuk ke poket 1,3.. betul ka?.. hehe.. aku punya pemahaman pun lebih kurang cetek gak pasal spec ni.. selalunya pegi pro shop diorang tebuk tapi selalunya diorang x explain purpose diorang tebuk kan?.. hehe.. at least kalau dpat knowledge pasal spec bola n drilling instruction ni boleh ler jugak paham apa yang pro shop buat ngan bola kita tu.. huhu.. http://www.bowlingfans.com/jeff/ballreactionbasics.htmlkalau dari segi pin location pulak apa ko paham?.. letak atas ler letak tepi ler letak bawah ler.. yang aku paham kalau pin kat atas dia hook lambat sikit.. x tau ler betul ke tak.. huhu.. try baca kek atas tu. maybe dapat tambah sikit ilmu ttg bola karekter QUOTE(neutral88 @ Apr 22 2010, 05:31 PM) kalu nak jd bowler yg bagus, try search kat google apa yg kita nak tau pasal boling nih. kendian kalu x faham try tya ngan proshop @ kat forum ni |
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Apr 23 2010, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(wadud @ Apr 23 2010, 03:53 PM) bg semua info yg ada kat bola tu. semua tulisan, lambang, no siri. amik gambo semua tu dan post kek sini bro, yg bola sy tu ade gmbar kat page 85..xde number siri...just tulis perfect pro n lambang P.. http://www.bowlingfans.com/jeff/ballreactionbasics.html try baca kek atas tu. maybe dapat tambah sikit ilmu ttg bola karekter kalu nak jd bowler yg bagus, try search kat google apa yg kita nak tau pasal boling nih. kendian kalu x faham try tya ngan proshop @ kat forum ni Added on April 23, 2010, 4:58 pmnk tnye tntg action bola Track Arsenal Reactive?ape pandangan bro2? insyallah sy beli bola nie.. This post has been edited by neutral88: Apr 23 2010, 04:58 PM |
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Apr 23 2010, 05:55 PM
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Apr 23 2010, 06:06 PM
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Apr 23 2010, 06:25 PM
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betol kate bro wadud...timing release tu...mcm mane..
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Apr 23 2010, 06:43 PM
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ohh.. ok ok.. release after your ball passes your ankle..
if you cannot time properly.. try to imagine releasing your ball smoothly.. dont just drop it.. let it like roll out of your hands instead of just falling off.. |
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Apr 23 2010, 06:54 PM
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14 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
ok thanx bro...kalo nak jage bola mcm mane?
biar kilat je n bersih dr minyak.. ade cre len ke slain anta pro shop... |
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Apr 23 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(wadud @ Apr 23 2010, 03:53 PM) bg semua info yg ada kat bola tu. semua tulisan, lambang, no siri. amik gambo semua tu dan post kek sini haa akhirnya jumpa jugak artikel yang senang aku faham.. tq geng.. yang penting aku kena cari PAP aku dulu.. aritu pegi pro shop lupa pulak aku nk suh dia cari PAP aku.. huhu.. ader budget maybe aku nk try bola C system 3.5 tu.. nampak dia punya spec boleh tahan.. kalau order dalam 2 minggu baru sampai.. http://www.bowlingfans.com/jeff/ballreactionbasics.html try baca kek atas tu. maybe dapat tambah sikit ilmu ttg bola karekter kalu nak jd bowler yg bagus, try search kat google apa yg kita nak tau pasal boling nih. kendian kalu x faham try tya ngan proshop @ kat forum ni korang kat forum ni xde buat order barang2 boling dari oversea ke?.. maybe kalau ader kita leh sharing ramai2 dia punya shipping cost |
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