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 Club LYN Bowling V2, Versi Bebola Batu Putaran Alam Semesta!

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k2anthrax
post Apr 21 2010, 01:16 PM

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PMed u bro:-)
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post Apr 21 2010, 03:21 PM

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ada saper2 kat sini tau cara nk baca bowling ball punya spec?.. contohnya hook potential (low/high), length (early/long), breakpoint shape (smooth arc/angular)..
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post Apr 21 2010, 03:25 PM

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ermm perlukan bantuan ke?
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post Apr 21 2010, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(k2anthrax @ Apr 21 2010, 03:25 PM)
ermm perlukan bantuan ke?
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bantuan amat dihargai.. huhu.. sajer jek nk tau lebih details apa maksud specification towards ball punya characteristics kat lane.. as well as location of pin on the bowling balls (pin up, pin down etc).. so far semua bola aku pin up.. flex.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 04:17 PM

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nak tnye, sesape pnah nampak brand bola bowling nie n nak thu ape material die dan dr company mane..
bola nie saye wat pkai men hook..waris dari abah bola nie..mintak tlg otai seantero malaya ekk..thanx.. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Apr 21 2010, 04:22 PM

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aku xde la pandai sgt tapi kalu nk explain skit2 bleh la....
kalu slh tlg la tegur...
hook potential- lagi tinggi hook potential lagi senang bola utk hook...
length- susah skit nk explain tapi yg aku phm bape jauh bola tu kena travel before dia hook....
breakpoint shape- angle bola tu hook...
hope dpt la bro phm walaupun explanation cm org bodo jew...hehe

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QUOTE(k2anthrax @ Apr 21 2010, 04:22 PM)
aku xde la pandai sgt tapi kalu nk explain skit2 bleh la....
kalu slh tlg la tegur...
hook potential- lagi tinggi hook potential lagi senang bola utk hook...
length- susah skit nk explain tapi yg aku phm bape jauh bola tu kena travel before dia hook....
breakpoint shape- angle bola tu hook...
hope dpt la bro phm walaupun explanation cm org bodo jew...hehe
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meaning kalau length tinggi n breakpoint shape pun tinggi memang kena main dalam sikit ler kot.. means that kita kena main bukak so that angle tu akan masuk ke poket 1,3.. betul ka?.. hehe.. aku punya pemahaman pun lebih kurang cetek gak pasal spec ni.. selalunya pegi pro shop diorang tebuk tapi selalunya diorang x explain purpose diorang tebuk kan?.. hehe.. at least kalau dpat knowledge pasal spec bola n drilling instruction ni boleh ler jugak paham apa yang pro shop buat ngan bola kita tu.. huhu..
kalau dari segi pin location pulak apa ko paham?.. letak atas ler letak tepi ler letak bawah ler.. yang aku paham kalau pin kat atas dia hook lambat sikit.. x tau ler betul ke tak.. huhu..
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post Apr 21 2010, 04:39 PM

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ermm yg tu kena tanya trus proshop...
diorg mmg tau...
ada kalu bukak brunswick nye ade layout...
yg tu tny diorg mmg diorg akan explain satu2...
satu lagi jarak antara Core n Gravity @ CG pun kena amik kira
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post Apr 21 2010, 05:22 PM

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salam...nak tnye.mcm mane nak thu bola kite tu material die ape...ade core ke x.. icon_question.gif
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the length and breakpoint shape mostly depending on your drilling.. 3 1/4" PIN to PAP will give you the most aggressive angular snap.. 4" to 5 1/2" pin to PAP will give you a later snap which will then give you an extremely sharp breakpoint shape..

other than drilling you must see the differential rg of the ball.. 0.050 or 0.060 will give you a more arc breakpoint shape because the track is extremely high.. balls with 0.040 differential rg will mostly give a nice sharp breakpoint.

usually you see the pin to PAP.. the most aggressive drilling is 3 1/4" PIN to PAP..

I always like this example.. imagine a pen.. the PIN is the pen tip.. you point the tip up 45 degrees.. that is 3 1/4" pin to PAP setup... now imagine the pencil is in the ball.. when you roll the ball straight.. then pencil will be going up and down up and down isnt? thats how the core of the ball acts.. the higher the PIN to PAP... the longer the ball will go and hook.. more length lor.. haha..

how to measure PAP? check out youtube videos.. or go to the bowling alley.. throw one ball.. and see the oil ring closest to your thumbhole.. put the oil ring that is closest to your thumb hole parallel to the floor.. the top of the bowling ball is your PAP..


Added on April 21, 2010, 5:29 pm
QUOTE(neutral88 @ Apr 21 2010, 06:22 PM)
salam...nak tnye.mcm mane nak thu bola kite tu material die ape...ade core ke x.. icon_question.gif
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do some research.. go to the manufacturers website. usually there are two balls nowadays in the market.. reactive and plastic.. urethane balls are hard to find..

as a general guide.. those balls which are expensive are reactive balls which has a core.. unless you find the clear plastic ball that has some funny things inside like a love shape or a panda bear inside.. those are plastic balls.. other plastic balls are ebonite maxim.. brunswick t-zone..


Added on April 21, 2010, 5:33 pm
QUOTE(gmorque @ Apr 21 2010, 05:32 PM)
meaning kalau length tinggi n breakpoint shape pun tinggi memang kena main dalam sikit ler kot.. means that kita kena main bukak so that angle tu akan masuk ke poket 1,3.. betul ka?.. hehe.. aku punya pemahaman pun lebih kurang cetek gak pasal spec ni.. selalunya pegi pro shop diorang tebuk tapi selalunya diorang x explain purpose diorang tebuk kan?.. hehe.. at least kalau dpat knowledge pasal spec bola n drilling instruction ni boleh ler jugak paham apa yang pro shop buat ngan bola kita tu.. huhu..
kalau dari segi pin location pulak apa ko paham?.. letak atas ler letak tepi ler letak bawah ler.. yang aku paham kalau pin kat atas dia hook lambat sikit.. x tau ler betul ke tak.. huhu..
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no.. your aim is depending on your style of playing and the lanes..

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post Apr 21 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(NeoSquall @ Apr 21 2010, 05:24 PM)
the length and breakpoint shape mostly depending on your drilling.. 3 1/4" PIN to PAP will give you the most aggressive angular snap.. 4" to 5 1/2" pin to PAP will give you a later snap which will then give you an extremely sharp breakpoint shape..

other than drilling you must see the differential rg of the ball.. 0.050 or 0.060 will give you a more arc breakpoint shape because the track is extremely high.. balls with 0.040 differential rg will mostly give a nice sharp breakpoint.

usually you see the pin to PAP.. the most aggressive drilling is 3 1/4" PIN to PAP..

I always like this example.. imagine a pen.. the PIN is the pen tip.. you point the tip up 45 degrees.. that is 3 1/4" pin to PAP setup... now imagine the pencil is in the ball.. when you roll the ball straight.. then pencil will be going up and down up and down isnt? thats how the core of the ball acts.. the higher the PIN to PAP... the longer the ball will go and hook.. more length lor.. haha..

how to measure PAP? check out youtube videos.. or go to the bowling alley.. throw one ball.. and see the oil ring closest to your thumbhole.. put the oil ring that is closest to your thumb hole parallel to the floor.. the top of the bowling ball is your PAP..


Added on April 21, 2010, 5:29 pm

do some research.. go to the manufacturers website. usually there are two balls nowadays in the market.. reactive and plastic.. urethane balls are hard to find..

as a general guide.. those balls which are expensive are reactive balls which has a core.. unless you find the clear plastic ball that has some funny things inside like a love shape or a panda bear inside.. those are plastic balls.. other plastic balls are ebonite maxim.. brunswick t-zone..


Added on April 21, 2010, 5:33 pm

hmm mcm nie...the matter is i got this bowling ball from my father n then he also doesn't know the type of that ball b'coz he bought second hand..ade picture kat post atas tu..mane thu pnah nampak ..
no.. your aim is depending on your style of playing and the lanes..
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post Apr 21 2010, 06:28 PM

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salam kepade bowler2 sekalian... biggrin.gif

nk tanye, LYN ade team bowling ke? yg men competition? unsure.gif klu ade, berminat nk tau... notworthy.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 07:27 PM

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ur ball shud be reactive and shud be for spinners.. not too sure about this ball.. never seen it..
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QUOTE(NeoSquall @ Apr 21 2010, 07:27 PM)
ur ball shud be reactive and shud be for spinners.. not too sure about this ball.. never seen it..
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thanx bro... smile.gif


Added on April 21, 2010, 7:50 pmsedang mencari beg bowling double sma ada baru atau second...

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k2anthrax
post Apr 21 2010, 08:39 PM

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thnx NeoSquall for his explanation...
we most welcomed great player or coach here to teach us from basic thing...
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post Apr 22 2010, 09:49 AM

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salam bowler2 sume...sy nak tnye laa otai2 sume nie....graded dlm bowling nie mcm mane ekk..ikut average kite kan...tp mcm mane nak dpt mcm certificate yg misal nye kite nie B graded ke ape..ade kene join tournament besar2 ke...bosan laaa dok join tournament bakat baru je..average sy skang dlm 170 ke atas...mcm mane ek bro nk dpt graded tu..ade kaitan dgn MTBC ke or kene register mane2..
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post Apr 22 2010, 10:59 AM

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xla...depend la kt mane yg bro men...
contoh men kt Ampang Point nye beginner dpt champion den average ats 180++ den bro d jadi C Graded....
den join jewla Graded nye event..:-)
kalu pegi tempat len same gak tapi rasenye x slh kalu bro nk join C Graded walaupun x men beginner
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post Apr 22 2010, 11:15 AM

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ade dpt certificate ape2 ke?kene menang la ekk?kalo xmenang mcm mane plak nak dpt graded tu..
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post Apr 22 2010, 11:18 AM

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xla...
xde cert pape pun...
kalu x slh blh trus join jew graded kt mane2....
cuma graded jer xleh join event beginner
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post Apr 22 2010, 11:38 AM

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owh okay2...ade bola boling berat dlm 13lbs...bola reactive laa..bajet dlm rm200..tgah dok kmpul duit nak beli beg double skali..

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