so easy to get top 5 ? look at the competitor list before posting. though this comp was down to luck. some of the guys have been clocking before we knew how to use pcs.

edited due to misinformation

BIAS? just beacuse of speculation everyone say bias?

there were rules set aside about hardware if u bother to read to read them

its all down to luck in comps like this.

This post has been edited by lolhalol: Jul 29 2008, 11:33 PM

@lolhalol

no probs mate..

This post has been edited by a1098113: Jul 29 2008, 11:33 PM

for u maybe not for me...

ok la guys.. shhh, lets move on aite.. the competition is over, lolhalol made an honest point about what he feels.. and its true, this guys in the competition are world class, its not easy at all to get a top 5. And well, i was shocked coz the organisers are established and they have organised competitions worldwide. Also well if its randomly picked then being bias is probably out of the picture..

so sheesh...

well.... this is pure luck... luck comes 1st then skills.... no siding to any country...from my previous oc competition experience, contestants will get to pick their own hardwares and there is fault tolerance but there is a limit for instance each team can only change 2 hardwares max if more than 2 means you are disqualify.... and even if they let u change hardware all the time u wont have the time to do preparation anymore.... such as insulation, vmods and stuffs.... team china is a very good team especially xu gang, i have seen him winning with faulty hardware, after changing the hardware he still can win... really respect him

remember the competition in jakarta.... our hardwares died once the competition officially start.... dam bad luck =x

This post has been edited by sup3rfly: Jul 30 2008, 12:14 AM

ya, hardware prone to die when its come to extreme OC, mayb sometimes those new hardware just cant hang on till the competition end or even start after some xtreme OC tested b4 the competition.... anyway malaysia team dun give up yet, still got chance to bounce back...

that wasnt the point of the line. it was a figure of speech.

Posting this in Xu Gang room - Drinking beer, Hong Kong

First of all, we would like to express my appreciation to those who shown interest and care towards this competition. Secondly, we are really sorry for the result of AOCC2008. I'll try to make this short and clear. And this competition we do not have a 'cameraman' with use except for vearn27, so i guess i won't be be writing a full report with pictures like what i used to do. I think vearn has done a good coverage on the event on behalf of us. Thanks.

During the 1st day, we reached Hong Kong in the afternoon. At night we got all the hardware for the competition. We were the 1st team to pick the hardwares and a box of Dry Ice. And every hardwares S/N will be recorded by VR-Zone. So there's definately NO BIAS from the organiser. We get to pick our one hardware for the list, which were 20 sets. We only need to return the HDD to the organiser at 5:30PM, 27th July.

When we get back to our room we started to test the setup. For this competition, me and coolice actually decided to focus on Super Pi 8M and 3DMark01SE. Therefore we focus to find stable FSB. The 1st day, which was 26th July we only focus on testing Super Pi. During our testing for the 1st day, coolice did the main overclocking while i was incharged of tweaking. We managed to do 470 FSB. For the 2nd day, 27th July which was the official testing day, coolice tried very hard to find higher FSB and finally managed to clock it to 490 FSB stable for Super Pi 8M. Our prepa

During our testing from Day 1 to Day 2, we use our own HDD. And we didn't bother to install the VGA driver because we focus on Super Pi. So after going to the AOCC2008 Presentation Talk and dinner in the evening, we started Dry Ice cooling. And because coolice was quite familiar with the setup already, we managed to clock it to 5.2GHz stable for Super Pi 8M in a short time. Before this, Team China and Hong Kong told us they can only run Super Pi 8M stable on Dry Ice with 4.7GHz and 5.0GHz. If i remember when we got the 5.2GHz stable for Super Pi, it was already 1 or 2 AM. So i was really tired and fell asleep with knowing it. Coolice continue to insulate the VGA card.

The next day in the morning, which is the Competition Day, coolice told me that the VGA card got problem with driver once i woke up. So this is where to problem started. We suspect it was our HDD that we used which was a very old benching HDD. So once we got to the competition at 10:00AM we immediately test the VGA card with the given WD VelociRaptor with floppy from VR-Zone. So confirmed our VGA cannot install driver and it was actually DOA. We regret that we didn't fully test our hardwares.

So this is the start of our bad luck. coolice need to redo a new insulation on a replaced VGA. Because the 1st Benching is Super Pi, the organiser provided another extra VGA to all contestants so that we won't need to run LN2 on VGA for Super Pi. So i started to power up our rig and find coldbug. It turned out our coldbug on -135 degree, which was very good compared to other competitors. But our coldboot is on -80 degree. So i tried to clock the CPU with the oc saved profile which is 5.2GHz we achieved on Dry Ice. By right it suppose to boot on LN2 easily but it just couldn't. I tried going for higher/lower vcore, vdimm, multiplier, timing and fsb. But it just wouldn't boot. After coolice done insulation on the VGA, he took over to try. After spending around 15 minutes finally he managed to rectify the problem. The oc profile saved on the BIOS was corrupted.

By the time our setup was ready to go, it was around 1:45PM and the competition will be started on 2:00PM. So we do not have time to find our highest CPU clock with LN2. So we tried very hard to go higher 5.2GHz. Even on 5.2GHz it wasn't as stable as our initial testing on Dry Ice. Finally we stop at 5.35Ghz to run Super Pi 8M when the time was going to finish for the benchmark. It was stable to finish the Pi run. Therefore i took over to apply the tweak. Our tweak has a few steps and during the final stage of the tweak, the rig just turned off and the time was only 10 minutes left. So i asked coolice to just use Copywazza which has a shorter process to try to get a final score. When coolice took over for around 10-20 seconds, our rig turned off again and couldn't be switched on anymore. So there goes our Super Pi 8M which was our main focus in this competition.

So we immediately try our best to boot up the rig. From our experience we supposed it was due to condensation. So we removed the CPU pot and clean it up. Then we try to switch on the rig without LN2 but it still refused to. After wasting around 15 minutes then we thought that the mobo failed on us. So we changed a new mobo but still it couldn't boot up. We exchanged CPU to diagnose which hardware died. But still it wouldn't boot. After than we switch power supply and it booted up with single ram. Then we quickly plug in another ram to start the benchmark. But once we plug in the ram again it couldn't boot up. At the same time TEAM Taiwan has problem with their rig. They are kind enough to test our rams and finally the culprit is one piece of our rams.

By the time we are ready for 3DMark01SE, it was already 45 minutes over. So we tried to run the benchmark with 5.3Ghz without taking anymore risk and it passed. So coolice started to clock our VGA card to 760/1250/1600 just to test stability and it passed. After that, coolice applied VMOD and try to clock higher. Once VMOD voltage adjustment was finished, guess what. . . rivatuner refused to recognise our clock. After spending 10 minutes to rectify it, TEAM China confirmed with us it was the rivatuner compatibility with the driver issue. They faced the same issue during their previouse competition. So exchanging a new HDD is the only way. And we need to apply our tweaks all over again. By the time everything was up and ready, it was 15 minutes left. Once coolice tried to clock the GPU properly and run, our rig died again. This time it was due to condensation.

After another failure on 3DMark01, we was really really down. But we still tried to put up a fight. At least to summit score. So after fixing the condensation problem, we carried on with Vantage Performance. Guess what, Vantage went smoothly as ever. For Vantage when the time was around 15 minutes, our mobo died. We only managed to run it stable on 5.3GHz CPU clockspeed and 850/1275/1700 GPU clockspeed which our score was only good enough for 11th or 12th placing. From what we know, TEAM India without VMOD able to hit 820 core speed for GPU.

So this was what happened during the event. Will edit this post for mistakes/error when i get back tomorrow.

This post has been edited by Sanko: Jul 30 2008, 04:28 AM

really sorry to hear that.
it's over already.
Hope you guys enjoy the rest of the days in hk
oh ya, how about the second day oc?

This post has been edited by dblooi: Jul 30 2008, 06:42 AM

ok² no offence

atleast we can learn something here to get ready on this big compy
-always check the hardware
-make sure the HDD/RAM is in the good condition
-no driver issue/conflict etc
-stable mobo bios

apart of that just have skills n luck
- luck should be the last one..

oh man.. i'm really sure we can show something..
keep up a good work..

anyway....coolice n sanko did a good job.dont gve up.we will win next year!!!!

This post has been edited by tnhafiz: Jul 30 2008, 09:36 AM

ouch sanko.. hmm, i guess next time, we will force u guys to prepare better Anyways, dont give up and try harder next time. Theres always next year to go

ya, both of them did not give up till last minute !!!

Should give them

Hmm dont be sad thou.At least we try.
By the way,this Championship is every year?

Agree.Prepare better so thing like that happend

@sanko
where my tshirt?

@vearn
u shud take 2 unit la..1 for me u take tshirt send me moshi

i pay rm100 for that shirt

anyway,coolice,sanko,vearn,u guys really did a good job

We need to put another thing into consideration. Our duo coolice and sanko didn't get enough resources, contributors or sponsors to provide them the necessary parts to let them do testing. It is the hardest way they took, isn't?

Anyhow, experience gained and we shall be better for the next one

Give them a break please... they had sleepless nights doing preparation before the competition... they're human too, just like us.

If I'm not mistaken, suppose this competition to be held in Malaysia this time. However, Asus Malaysia rejected it. Don't ask me regarding the source please, it may not be the actual case.

Hahaha... told you that it is the last piece of t-shirt for the event . Surprisingly the quality pretty good, like those "dri-fit" t-shirt.

RM100? @_@ Doesn't worth it man... it is just a t-shirt...

Well, it is coolice and sanko that in the competition. I just kepoh-kepoh kacau-kacau only since I'm temporarily posted to work in Hong Kong . In a way, I really hope I didn't bothered them during their days in Hong Kong

hey guys it's NR from Team SG. I was in Team Aussie for the 2007 AOCC.

just want u all to know that sanko and coolice really tried.

in fact once they collected their hardware i could not find them till the day of the compy.

want to call them for dinner also cant find them. they were camping in the room and trying.

in the end only went out with them ONCE for dinner!

can say they really sway. i also kena this sort of thing in the competitions i joined b4.. is really disappointing and sway but there's always next year!

i think my good friends sanko and coolice did really well. they did what they could and did their best

anyway that white psp is mine team sg no time to play psp but that was for my music.

not for me but the system haha~

I guess I know who you are . You are the one bugging them to go Lan Kwai Fong, right?

Then when chatting with the MC, you mentioned you need to get some stuff for someone someone